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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Fellas, fellas. There's at least 3 guys on this forum alone who's kidneys we can just borrow for some leaks. And my good friend Lord Jackson might also know a way to procure some material as well
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My kidney for Dancing For Love
AlwaysThere's appendix for Dark Lady
Filmandmusic's kidney for Rocker

Who else wants to contribute? 🙃
 
Do we have informations about the work on several Invincible outtakes for a possibly new album in 2003 ?
I read MJ work, in 2002-2003, on several Rodney Jerkins tracks (Get your weight off of me) and some other (One More Chance, World of Candy) for an idea of new album to release in 2003/2004. It was apparently just an idea
 
Pollonio said:
Do we have informations about the work on several Invincible outtakes for a possibly new album in 2003 ?
I read MJ work, in 2002-2003, on several Rodney Jerkins tracks (Get your weight off of me) and some other (One More Chance, World of Candy) for an idea of new album to release in 2003/2004. It was apparently just an idea
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There was never any official confirmation regarding such a new album.

Besides, it was too soon for him to release a new album (in just 2-3 years after his previous 'Invincible' album).

Some fans simply fabricated and spread a (fake) story that the singer at that time (2002-2003) was working on a new album called 'Resurrection' meant for release in 2003-2004 (an album mostly consisted of outtakes from the 'Invincible' album).
 
Yeah, there was no album planned around that time. MJ was planning a general comeback which would have started with the release of the One More Chance video, but that didn't include an album. He apparently wanted to do more in the realm of films etc. There was an article about it a few years ago. Going by memory so if someone else can remember more details feel free.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah, there was no album planned around that time. MJ was planning a general comeback which would have started with the release of the One More Chance video, but that didn't include an album. He apparently wanted to do more in the realm of films etc. There was an article about it a few years ago. Going by memory so if someone else can remember more details feel free.
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Dieter Wiesner's book details all the plans for 2001-2003. No music, but tons of other projects.

I highly recommend the book. My favorite trivia: the house in Las Vegas Michael was staying at when he got arrested was... the same house he rented when he returned to the U.S. after the trial (!).

 
Thank you

I'm not talking about Ressurection, I know it's fake and only a die-hard-fan dream
But according to the Korgnex list of unreleased songs (here https://jacksonvillage.org/forum/in...racks-co-der-werk-katalog-zukünftiger-inhalt/), these songs were work in 2002-2003 :
The Pain (Rodney Jerkins production)
Pressure (Rodney Jerkins production)
Escape (Rodney Jerkins production)
Seduction (Shelby II Myrick)
Carry On (Barry Gibb)
World of Candy (Nisha Kataria)
+ One More Chance
 
Pollonio said:
Thank you

I'm not talking about Ressurection, I know it's fake and only a die-hard-fan dream
But according to the Korgnex list of unreleased songs (here https://jacksonvillage.org/forum/index.php?thread/58-unreleased-tracks-co-der-werk-katalog-zukünftiger-inhalt/), these songs were work in 2002-2003 :
The Pain (Rodney Jerkins production)
Pressure (Rodney Jerkins production)
Escape (Rodney Jerkins production)
Seduction (Shelby II Myrick)
Carry On (Barry Gibb)
World of Candy (Nisha Kataria)
+ One More Chance
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That list is outdated, there's a lot of titles that are rumoured or don't exist.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Btw can anyone ask Damien to give more details about World Of Candy? Like if it has vocals and such? All he's ever said about it is that it's a "children's song" that's unfinished.
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it seems like he has no clear informations about this song
But maybe an interesting question to ask him : What about the Invincible outtakes The Pain, Pressure and Seduction ?
 
Derek1984 said:
CLHGA is a homage to James Brown. Listen to that beat and it's a James Brown song, just as New Jack Swing.
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I wonder, is the beat from 'Can't Let Her Get Away' in any way sampled from James Brown's 'Say It Loud..' or the Commodores maybe?

I think Teddy's song 'Is It Good For You' was mostly inspired by CLHGA:
 
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Unlike a lot of hip hop productions at the time, new jack swing utilised heavy drum machine sounds, often using the SP-1200 sampler and Roland TR-808 drum machine with a particularly dominant snare. The programmed hi-hats were often played in 16th note triplets, a particular trademark of Riley’s that gave a distinctive swing to the feel, while additional synthesised percussion was often also featured to add body to the rhythm. Interestingly, while in conversation with the Red Bull Music Academy, Riley revealed that he never used a sequencer to program beats. Instead, he would play along with track, laying the drum machine parts down like any other instrument. “That’s why it took so long for a lot of these records to come out,” said Riley. “‘Cause I didn’t have a sequencer, and when I finally got a sequencer, it didn’t work right for me. It didn’t have the off and on swing that I wanted.”

mixdownmag.com.au

Producer Focus: Teddy Riley - Mixdown Magazine

Riley would grow to define the sound and reinvigorate contemporary R&B and hip hop, leading to major hits by the likes of Michael Jackson, Blackstreet, Keith Sweat and Bobby Brown. No music is made in a bubble, however, and the tendency to credit Riley with entirely creating the new jack swing...
mixdownmag.com.au mixdownmag.com.au
 
Alec said:
Dieter Wiesner's book details all the plans for 2001-2003. No music, but tons of other projects.

I highly recommend the book. My favorite trivia: the house in Las Vegas Michael was staying at when he got arrested was... the same house he rented when he returned to the U.S. after the trial (!).

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And is the same house that the Liberace foundation had his museum there, which had MJ stuff in when they moved in. And MJ left all his court doc's there from second trail which happens to be in the hands of LF now that estate didn't seem to fussed about picking them up. True story. MJ apparently liked the house as it has a secret underground tunnel that's not in the council plans and was good from a security perspective. If the museum is going, it's well worth the visit from the MJ perspective alone.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Unlike a lot of hip hop productions at the time, new jack swing utilised heavy drum machine sounds, often using the SP-1200 sampler and Roland TR-808 drum machine with a particularly dominant snare. The programmed hi-hats were often played in 16th note triplets, a particular trademark of Riley’s that gave a distinctive swing to the feel, while additional synthesised percussion was often also featured to add body to the rhythm. Interestingly, while in conversation with the Red Bull Music Academy, Riley revealed that he never used a sequencer to program beats. Instead, he would play along with track, laying the drum machine parts down like any other instrument. “That’s why it took so long for a lot of these records to come out,” said Riley. “‘Cause I didn’t have a sequencer, and when I finally got a sequencer, it didn’t work right for me. It didn’t have the off and on swing that I wanted.”

mixdownmag.com.au

Producer Focus: Teddy Riley - Mixdown Magazine

Riley would grow to define the sound and reinvigorate contemporary R&B and hip hop, leading to major hits by the likes of Michael Jackson, Blackstreet, Keith Sweat and Bobby Brown. No music is made in a bubble, however, and the tendency to credit Riley with entirely creating the new jack swing...
mixdownmag.com.au mixdownmag.com.au
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I particulary wondered about the beat itself, not the instrumentation. Because you hear MJ beatboxing CLHGA in the leaked studio clip and I am curious if Teddy was inspired by MJ's rhythm for this song or if he used this exact beat (break sample) before. It sounds so 'MJ' and is also reminiscent of the beatbox fragment of 'Tabloid Junkie' from the Sawyer interview
 
Victorious said:
I particulary wondered about the beat itself, not the instrumentation. Because you hear MJ beatboxing CLHGA in the leaked studio clip and I am curious if Teddy was inspired by MJ's rhythm for this song or if he used this exact beat (break sample) before. It sounds so 'MJ' and is also reminiscent of the beatbox fragment of 'Tabloid Junkie' from the Sawyer interview
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Well, Michael’s beatboxing sure adds a ton to the overall feel of the rhythm.
 
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