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Tabloid-Report: LaToya with the kids in Germany in January 2013

AngieJ said:
And even if he is going for the money, why go for the most bottom of barrel stuff?
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See that's the thing I don't understand. I mean, why is it ALWAYS the bottom of the barrel these children get dragged to.

Not too long ago, the Beckham's young son did a photo shoot for Burberry, which was very cute. Right before that, Anne Nicole Smith's daughter did a shoot for Guess jeans, also very cute.

Then you have the children of the most famous man to ever walk this earth and his children are relegated to "Triple" D-list events and a movie that will NEVER be made, in my opinion.

I really hate to say it, but I'm gonna keep it real: In my opinion, the Jacksons don't get invited to anything upstanding, because "most" folks just don't take them seriously. Even though they love to claim their ONGOING place in the upper tiers of showbusiness. Sad fact is that they are just dragging Michael's children down the credibility ladder with themselves. (LaToya is probably just happy that somebody is paying her any attention and she doesn't care where that attention is coming from, in my opinion.)

"The Botox Boys." YUCK! I feel very badly for Prince Jackson, he probably has no idea what his Auntie got him involved with. Mr. Pink and now this.
 
If there is a little bit money at the bottom of the barrel, most of the Jackson's are not in position to say no to few coins.

Of course any of them would gladly use kids as a bargain to get more money from their "appearance" in certain shows, LaToya is prime example. I'm glad Paris didn't go, and hope she finally sees that they are asked to attend to these shows to make money for less well to do relatives.
 
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U never see La Toya or any other Jackson bringing along their other nieces/nephews and/or Grandchildren to events or including them in their lame projects. U only see that with MJ kids.

So the agenda is clear IMO.... $$$$

At least for me it is. :angry:
 
bluetopez said:
U never see La Toya or any other Jackson bringing along their other nieces/nephews and/or Grandchildren to events or including them in their lame projects. U only see that with MJ kids.
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Yeah, I notice that as well and it makes me feel bad for the OTHER nieces/nephews and/or grandchildren.

I mean, why shouldn't some of them also be included in all of these "so-called" events. Especially those in the family who also have a craving to be in showbusiness, i.e. Randy's daughter for example.

I guess we all know why it's ALWAYS Michael's children (LOL). I wonder how the next generation feels and if they will hold it against Michael's 3-children for being deemed "The Chosen Ones." In my opinion, to eliminate any confusion or hard feelings, they should all be included.
 
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Bonnie I did not realize that this was the quality of the gala. I thought this was some charity event where Prince gave gifts to some kids. Now I am more confused than ever--Is this a charity event which also included a gala with inappropriate adult entertainers? Has anyone asked Prince about this event and the intentions behind this event?

The children are on the internet, so by now they should have a good understanding of the type of people they associate with at these events. If they are still showing up, then I guess they chose to attend regardless of the people involved. Maybe they think they are doing a good thing and are not analyzing how their activities now can impact on their future star status. I guess they are simple being kids..
 
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Big Apple2 said:
See that's the thing I don't understand. I mean, why is it ALWAYS the bottom of the barrel these children get dragged to.

Not too long ago, the Beckham's young son did a photo shoot for Burberry, which was very cute. Right before that, Anne Nicole Smith's daughter did a shoot for Guess jeans, also very cute.

Then you have the children of the most famous man to ever walk this earth and his children are relegated to "Triple" D-list events and a movie that will NEVER be made, in my opinion.

I really hate to say it, but I'm gonna keep it real: In my opinion, the Jacksons don't get invited to anything upstanding, because "most" folks just don't take them seriously. Even though they love to claim their ONGOING place in the upper tiers of showbusiness. Sad fact is that they are just dragging Michael's children down the credibility ladder with themselves. (LaToya is probably just happy that somebody is paying her any attention and she doesn't care where that attention is coming from, in my opinion.)

"The Botox Boys." YUCK! I feel very badly for Prince Jackson, he probably has no idea what his Auntie got him involved with. Mr. Pink and now this.
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Shouldn't there be more money for them to get for these kids? Everything so far has been so chump changey. Even Bret Michael kids wouldn't be relegated to the stuff MJ's kids do. It just says an awful lot when they have these super famous celeb kids under them and still all they can do with them is get them involved with z-list ventures.

So much for the talk that MJ had his family members blacklisted in the industry. Their crappy ventures after his passing shows they didn't go on to have careers because of themselves and their ineptness not because MJ put the word out to not help them.
 
^ Yes i agree, frankly they don't care about the quality of the event, they just make their career judgements by looking at the paycheque. Same with the moonies back in '89, there's been no change in their outlook. This is why it is upsetting about the lowrent, frankly humiliatingly awful stuff that ppb are getting involved in by the family. The jacksons are only doing the things that involve a kickback to them eg the global live thing rather than considering the prestige of the event and how it will reflect on ppb - so so selfish.

A year ago ppb were at the hand signing event in la with beiber, quincy, chris tucker etc and all media in attendance - a really nice classy tribute to mj but of course that was organised by the estate. They could have been at the venice film festival on the red carpet for spike lee's bad25, but no, they were at some event in gary which no doubt is part of some inept business deal between the city and the jackson family. Unfortunately ppb are going to have to wise up pretty quick, hollywood is a tough town and the type of place where image is important.

petrarose said:
Now I am more confused than ever--Is this a charity event which also included a gala with inappropriate adult entertainers.
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I'm assuming it's some kind of charity gala whereby they pay celebs to turn up to provide publicity and to attract people to attend. Maybe some of the funds raised go to charity, but the celebs like latoya and these entertainers like the wess brothers go for the appearance fee. The trip to the hospital looks like a separate event.
 
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Exactly. The kids never said anything about Bad 25 or supported the documentary. I have only seen the edited version but it was so respectful and gave Michael the credit he deserves. When the thing happened last summer the kids turned to the estate didn't they? I hope the kids as they get older will learn to work with the estate and not against them like other people in the family. Prince said that Michael warned him about people but yet when I see them with Latoya I wonder sometimes. I think it's great they visited the kids and gave them gifts. It's just an uncomfortable feeling about everything else.
 
^ In sullivan's book he talks of mrs j and ppb coming out and supporting the immortal cirque show as part of a deal with the estate whereby mrs j got her $6m moonie lawsuit paid. I remembered at the time the 2 events happened close together and wondered if they were connected. It's really tragic that the executors basically had to bribe the beneficiairy/guardian with massive amounts of money before she agreed to support with mj's children, a hugely important legacy project which has generated 100s of $millions for mj's estate. Clearly the estate never offered enough money to mrs j and her lawyers to make them feel inclined to get the children to support bad25.
 
Maybe when the children are adults and they don't have guardians anymore that they can decide to support what they want to. If that's true about paying things off for Katherine to come it's too bad because the estate are providing for Katherine and the kids very well as per Michael's wishes.
 
Bonnie Blue said:
^ In sullivan's book he talks of mrs j and ppb coming out and supporting the immortal cirque show as part of a deal with the estate whereby mrs j got her $6m moonie lawsuit paid. I remembered at the time the 2 events happened close together and wondered if they were connected. It's really tragic that the executors basically had to bribe the beneficiairy/guardian with massive amounts of money before she agreed to support with mj's children, a hugely important legacy project which has generated 100s of $millions for mj's estate. Clearly the estate never offered enough money to mrs j and her lawyers to make them feel inclined to get the children to support bad25.
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This one ^^ especially where it came from I am going to pass up. When he claims outlandish things about Michael in his book we challenge it, so even though I know the family's motives can be questionable, I will have to give that statement ^^ the same disdain I give to Sullivan's claims about Michael.

It appears that public Estate sponsored activities are usually attended by the children. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Lee's doc the first major estate OK'ed project that the kids did not attend? Paris, especially is very social so it is not difficult for anyone who follows her to ask her about her views about the doc & why she did not attend. Even Prince can be asked this question. That would be better than us speculating. At least we will have something to base our discussions on.

We need to be careful in how we pick and chose what from S book we will accept & what we will reject. I think we should be cautious and not run with the 6 million thing. Let's not start quoting him too.
 
I think people did ask them about Bad 25 and the documentary and they never answered it. I am not sure. I remember Spike tweeted Paris about it.
 
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La Toya Jackson ?@latoyajackson

@iamjamiefoxx it was good seeing you as always! Hope your trip went well!
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Jamie Fox spoke badly about Michael huh? :unsure: Or not?
 
Bonnie Blue said:
^ Yes i agree, frankly they don't care about the quality of the event, they just make their career judgements by looking at the paycheque. Same with the moonies back in '89, there's been no change in their outlook. This is why it is upsetting about the lowrent, frankly humiliatingly awful stuff that ppb are getting involved in by the family. The jacksons are only doing the things that involve a kickback to them eg the global live thing rather than considering the prestige of the event and how it will reflect on ppb - so so selfish.

A year ago ppb were at the hand signing event in la with beiber, quincy, chris tucker etc and all media in attendance - a really nice classy tribute to mj but of course that was organised by the estate. They could have been at the venice film festival on the red carpet for spike lee's bad25, but no, they were at some event in gary which no doubt is part of some inept business deal between the city and the jackson family. Unfortunately ppb are going to have to wise up pretty quick, hollywood is a tough town and the type of place where image is important.
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I agree. It really embarrassing to watch how kids are paraded around on these bottom class events, when they could have been any of the film festivals supporting Spike Lee's documentary, and that documentary was really important in regards Michael's legacy. I doubt Spike would've made them to hold DVD on their hands on front of the flashing cameras, like they are made to do in these bottom class events organised by family.

Katherine and TJ really should think the event they allow PPB to attend. What they do and allow them to do now, will effect for their future prospects.

I wonder if PPB even knows that if Jackson's so called charity even goes belly-up, it is the charity that doesn't get any money. Jackson's are paid first, then charity if there is any money left. Usually these events that Jackson's put together are marketed as charity events, but at the end, the Jackson's are the charity case.


I cannot wait when the estate start distributing money 20% from Michael's estate to the charity's, so PPB can lend their support to these proper charity causes.
 
Bubs said:
I cannot wait when the estate start distributing money 20% from Michael's estate to the charity's, so PPB can lend their support to these proper charity causes.
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Oh, and what WONDERFUL Michael Jackson Estate representatives
Prince, Paris, and Blanket make:wub:
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bluetopez said:
U never see La Toya or any other Jackson bringing along their other nieces/nephews and/or Grandchildren to events or including them in their lame projects. U only see that with MJ kids.

So the agenda is clear IMO.... $$$$

At least for me it is. :angry:
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I wonder if the kids wonder why Toya is never seen out with any of the other cousins, just them?

At least when Jermaine was out with them he had his kids with him and sometimes other people's kids.
 
Petrarose said:
This one ^^ especially where it came from I am going to pass up. When he claims outlandish things about Michael in his book we challenge it, so even though I know the family's motives can be questionable, I will have to give that statement ^^ the same disdain I give to Sullivan's claims about Michael.

It appears that public Estate sponsored activities are usually attended by the children. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Lee's doc the first major estate OK'ed project that the kids did not attend? Paris, especially is very social so it is not difficult for anyone who follows her to ask her about her views about the doc & why she did not attend. Even Prince can be asked this question. That would be better than us speculating. At least we will have something to base our discussions on.

We need to be careful in how we pick and chose what from S book we will accept & what we will reject. I think we should be cautious and not run with the 6 million thing. Let's not start quoting him too.
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Actually petrarose i am extremely careful in how i pick and choose what i accept from sullivan's book. I read it and i read all his notes and sources and i chose to accept this claim - you're free to disregard it but you don't have the right to tell me not to quote him.

Sullivan may not know if mj has a nose or not but from his contacts he is the most knowledgeable media person there is to know what is going on in the jackson household since mj's death. He is personal friends with howard mann who helped him with his book, is personal friends with mrs j's lawyer, sanders, and in fact was instrumental in having mrs j appoint sanders as her estate lawyer. He also interviewed schaeffel extensively for his book. These 3 people are mrs j's main advisors and confidantes and so sullivan has top notch sources for exactly what is going down between mrs j and the estate. Finally, sullivan's book was proofread by mrs j's other lawyer, ribera, and corrections/amendments were made by her as to the accuracy of what was written on the issues post mj's death.

For those reasons i'll carry on quoting sullivan's book for alot of issues that have arisen between mrs j and the estate - i might find his jugements iffy but he's a great source on what's going on.
 
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Bubs said:
I agree. It really embarrassing to watch how kids are paraded around on these bottom class events, when they could have been any of the film festivals supporting Spike Lee's documentary, and that documentary was really important in regards Michael's legacy. I doubt Spike would've made them to hold DVD on their hands on front of the flashing cameras, like they are made to do in these bottom class events organised by family.
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And the ironic thing is, they talk up how Paris wants to be an actress and Prince wants to be a director, but they don't jump at the chance for these kids to mingle with movie folks at these movie festivals? I find that crazy.
 
Bonnie Blue said:
Actually petrarose i am extremely careful in how i pick and choose what i accept from sullivan's book. I read it and i read all his notes and sources and i chose to accept this claim - you're free to disregard it but you don't have the right to tell me not to quote him.

Sullivan may not know if mj has a nose or not but from his contacts he is the most knowledgeable media person there is to know what is going on in the jackson household since mj's death. He is personal friends with howard mann who helped him with his book, is personal friends with mrs j's lawyer, sanders, and in fact was instrumental in having mrs j appoint sanders as her estate lawyer. He also interviewed schaeffel extensively for his book. These 3 people are mrs j's main advisors and confidantes and so sullivan has top notch sources for exactly what is going down between mrs j and the estate. Finally, sullivan's book was proofread by mrs j's other lawyer, ribera, and corrections/amendments were made by her as to the accuracy of what was written on the issues post mj's death.

For that reason i'll carry on quoting sullivan's book for alot of issues that have arisen between mrs j and the estate - he's a great source.
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^^I will not disrespect you since I read all your comments and find them insightful. Anyone can tell another person to do or not do a thing. The point is that the person cannot make them do the thing or not do the thing.

I still maintain that when we discredit someone's stance on Michael in his writings it looks hypocritical when we then chose the parts of the writings we like when it goes along with what we feel about someone else. There is no evidence that the reason the children and Katherine went to that event was due to a payment of Katherine's outstanding bill. You are doing the same thing that you decry in others. You see 2 things happening at the same time and come to the conclusion that they are related and one cause the other. This is faulty research. And the disrespectful part is you name a source that is questionable. The next thing is that someone made a comment after your post & you can see that they are taking what you say as a possibility and to me this is being careless with someone's else humanity, that is, Katherine's.

I know the family has a lot of faults. In fact, I comment on the things they do when it impacts negatively on Michael & his children. However, simple taking quotes from questionable sources without any hard evidence to make a person appear even lower than ever is not the best way to go.

I understand you read his whole book and all the sources. Good for you and I admire your ability to do so.
 
Actually, Sulllivan having connections to all those people around Katherine is one reason not to trust him, not the opposite! These people have their own agendas & selfish reason to be around The Jacksons and that book of Sulllivan's pretty much underlines that IMO.
 
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Petrarose said:
I know the family has a lot of faults. In fact, I comment on the things they do when it impacts negatively on Michael & his children. However, simple taking quotes from questionable sources without any hard evidence to make a person appear even lower than ever is not the best way to go.
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I feel that sulllivan being directly fed information from all the people around mrs j and having his claims in his book fact-checked by mrs j's lawyers can be classed as extremely good evidence. Fair enough if you think it's not, we can just agree to disagree. Actually this part of the book is written very much from mrs j and her side's perspective and so it's interesting that this particular incident is seen by you (and me) as negative against mrs j - sullivan actually admits in his notes that he has altered his book to make it more sympathetic towards mrs j by omitting things and softening other incidents. Another reason why i believe this particular claim - he's writing this from her point of view.
 
Why do you think Janet Jackson and Rebbie Jackson don't say publicly they are proud to be the Aunts of Michael Jackson's children?

 
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CherubimII said:
Why do you think Janet Jackson and Rebbie Jackson don't say publicly they are roud to be the Aunts of Michael Jackson's children?
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Cherubim are you missing a word in your question? I can't understand it. do you mean why Jandt & Rebbie don't say publicly that they are around the children because they are the children's aunts?
 
Petrarose said:
Cherubim are you missing a word in your question? I can't understand it. do you mean why Jandt & Rebbie don't say publicly that they are around the children because they are the children's aunts?
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I think she meant to say proud.
 
Lynn88 said:
I think she meant to say proud.
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Yes, I'm just so bothered by people making negative comments about the time LaToya spends with Michael Jackson's children, but never noting that, apparently, Janet and Rebbie offer no guidance to Michael's children at all.

 
^ of course they are proud to be their aunts , but the fact is they are also aunts to 21 others , so why single out Michael's children just because they are his children? I don't think that's fair to the rest or nieces and nephews and it causes tension and jealously in famaiies when their is favoritism . like the other day when they were introducing Latoya on the doctors she says now a days her most cherished role was aunt to Prince, Paris and Blanket like seriosuly give me a break you are also aunt to 21 others , why couldn't she just say her most cherished role is that of an aunt. It's beyond obvious what she is doing

and offering guidance does not mean parading around kids to z list events getting them no where, or kissing their behinds . sometimes when you are offering guidance it might mean things you may not want to hear and not sucking up.
 
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