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Shout on Invincible?

Would you have liked to have Shout on Invincible?

  • yes

    Votes: 10 66.7%

  • no

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • not sure

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Total voters
    15

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Jam and Shout are both fast-paced songs produced by Teddy Riley that deal with social problems. Jam appeared on Dangerous in 1991 and had a video, while Shout was unfortunately only released as the b-side of Cry in 2001. Would you have liked to have Shout on Invincible?
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I think if there had been more original B-sides it would have helped with single sales.

To answer the question - maybe. We know the album is too long - Maybe replace 2 or 3 of the weaker songs with Shout, which is slightly better.
 
throw out some ballad and add Shout.
it could need better mixing though, vocals are way too muddy.

track listing would have been perfect next to 2000 Watts. imagine those hard hitting tracks together?
 
Shout is pretty bad, but it’s probably better than some of the wretched ballads on Invincible, so I’d take it over You Are My Life. Still, nothing can save Invincible, it needed a complete re-do.
 
Teddy Riley should just finish producing the song as if it was supposed to appear on Invincible in 2001 and then it can be released on the next posthumous album. The vocals actually need to be a little louder.
 
I think if it's the version thats on the internet, no. But if we were to get a new mix that wasn't so muddy and the vocals were clearer - yes. That said, it needed some lyrical overhaul because the writing is somewhat mid overall. But then you need to cut songs out, maybe replace some. But, that's a whole different discussion (for which there are dozens of threads on this forum).
 
Looking at the preliminary tracklist above, there seemed to be some confusion as to whether Shout should come before or after 2000 Watts. What do you think about that?
 
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It sounds cheap, not hard enough, guitars mixed too much in the background, awful drum sound and Michael is incomprehensible.

The track needed a lot of work to become good
 
filmandmusic said:
It sounds cheap, not hard enough, guitars mixed too much in the background, awful drum sound and Michael is incomprehensible.

The track needed a lot of work to become good
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true, it needs harder drums and louder vocals and more guitars
 
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After the mess that Teddy Riley did with the Cascio songs, he could actually mix Shout properly to make up for it
 
No. It's fine as a B-side on a single but overall it's not album-worthy. You can barely hear his vocals on the verses.
 
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