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Summary of Preliminary Hearing Day 2 Jan 5th 2011
- Janet, Latoya, Randy, Rebbie, Katherine and Joe Jackson attend the hearing.
- Alberto Alvarez, Kai Chase and first responder EMT testifies.
Alberto Alvarez Testimony
- Alvarez says that he was the first one to walk into MJ's bedroom. He says when he walked in MJ was sprawled out on the bed with his eyes and mouth open, and Murray was administering chest compressions with one hand.
- The below is a part of his testimony
"Did it appear he was breathing," Walgren asked.
"No sir," Alvarez said.
"His eyes and mouth were open?" the prosecutor asked.
"Yes," the witness said.
"Did he seem to be alive or dead?" Walgren asked.
"Dead, sir," Alvarez said.
- Alvarez said that he was frozen by the sight.
- Alvarez asks "‘Dr. Murray, what happened?" and Murray tells him "He had a reaction. He had a bad reaction"
- Alvarez recalls MJ's kids Prince and Paris following him upstairs and Paris screaming "Daddy" and starting to cry.
- Murray says "Get them out. Don't let them see their father like this" to Alvarez.
- Alvarez says "I said, 'children, don't worry, we'll take care of him, please go outside.' And I escorted them out and left the door ajar,".
- After he escorted the children out of the room, Alvarez noticed the MJ’s penis was out of his underwear and tubing (condom catheter) was attached to it.
- "He just grabbed a handful of bottles, or vials, and he instructed me to put them in a bag," Alvarez testified, adding Murray also told him to place an intravenous bag into another sack. Alvarez said he grabbed a plastic bag from a chair and held it out as the doctor dropped the bottles inside, then put them in a brown canvas bag on the floor as Murray asked him to do. He also confirmed that 911 had not been called yet.
- Alvarez says that the I.V. bag had 'very little fluid' in it and that there was a 'white, milky substance' at the bottom of the I.V. bag.“I noticed that inside (the IV bag), there was like a bottle ... and then I noticed that at the bottom of the bag there was a milk-like substance,” Alvarez testified.
- Only after collecting the bottles, Murray tells Alvarez to call 911. He calls 911 in that call he tells the 911 operator that Jackson's private doctor was there, and she responded that he would be "the higher authority."
- Alvarez said he did not see any heart or blood pressure monitors in the room, but Murray clipped a monitoring device to Jackson’s finger after paramedics were called.
- When the operator said to transfer Jackson to the floor, Alvarez grabbed Jackson's legs and Murray grabbed his upper body. He said at that point he noticed the IV in Jackson's leg that had to be removed.
- On the floor Alvarez said, he did chest compressions while Murray gave the singer mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.“After the second time, he gave a breath, he came up and said, 'You know, this is the first time I give mouth to mouth, but I have to do it, he’s my friend,'" Alvarez said.
- Under cross examination Alvarez acknowledged he had not told police in two initial interviews that Murray had ordered him to remove potential evidence. Below is a part of testimony :
“You didn’t think it was suspicious?” asked defense lawyer Ed Chernoff.
“Apparently not, sir,” Alvarez said.
“You thought he was packing up to go to the hospital, right?” the lawyer asked.
“Yes, sir,” Alvarez replied.
- In cross examination Alvarez was also asked about his relationship with Jackson family and his discussions with other staff members of MJ. Alvarez acknowledged that he had refused to speak to a defense investigator who had sought to interview him, but that in a police interview he had said he might sell his story to the media at a later date.
- Defense also tested Alvarez by asking him to confirm whether it was dark in MJ's room - suggesting his observations may be inaccurate.
- Press accounts describe Alvarez as being tearful during testimony.
Kai Chase Testimony
- Chase testifies that around 12:05 Murray comes down the stairwell and tells her "Get security, get Prince". She says she told Prince "something might be wrong with your dad".
- Chase testifies from Murray's behavior it was evident there was an emergency. She also testified that Murray didn't ask her to call 911.
- She also testified that Murray generally comes down around 10 AM to get the juice she prepared for MJ, she says in that morning Murray didn't come down.
- She mentions that MJ was on an extremely healthy diet, dining on seared ahi tuna salad for lunch the day before he died and that she found it odd that the Tuscan white bean soup she prepared for MJ and Murray the night before and left in the refrigerator for when they returned from rehearsals was untouched when she came to work next day (8:30am).
EMT Richard Senneff Testimony
- EMT Senneff testified that what Murray has told them didn't add up and he had a "gut feeling" Murray wasn't telling the truth.
- For example Senneff said when they came in Murray told them MJ's condition had "just happened" but based on the MJ's dilated pupils, dry eyes and his skin, which was cold to the touch, Senneff believed Jackson may have been dead for more than 20 minutes. “All I can tell you is my gut feeling at the time was this did not just happen, it’s been a period of time,” Senneff testified.
- Senneff also testified that Murray told them Jackson had no underlying condition and was just being treated for dehydration, and that the only medication he had been given was the sedative lorazepam. He said even they repeatedly asked for what medications MJ was given, Murray never mentioned them propofol.
- Senneff testified when they initially came in they thought MJ to be a hospice patient and frail as he looked pale, thin and had a IV stand and a personal doctor by his bedside.
- Senneff testified that paramedics hooked MJ up to an EKG and he was flatline-his hands and feet ‘tinged blue’ and his pupils were fully dilated.
- Senneff testified that despite resuscitation efforts and three rounds of giving MJ epinephrine & atropine, paramedics did not feel a pulse on MJ and their attempts to revive MJ was unsuccessful. Senneff testified Conrad Murray was the only person who claimed to feel a pulse on MJ.
- Senneff testified that Murray refused to pronounce MJ dead on the scene.
- Senneff testified that at UCLA Murray was "spinning ... moving around, nervous, sweating, multitasking."
- In cross examination Murray's lawyers asks if the way MJ looked (thin, frail, black/bluish feet) could be signs of drug addict. Judge stops the question.
Summary of Preliminary Hearing Day 2 Jan 5th 2011
- Janet, Latoya, Randy, Rebbie, Katherine and Joe Jackson attend the hearing.
- Alberto Alvarez, Kai Chase and first responder EMT testifies.
Alberto Alvarez Testimony
- Alvarez says that he was the first one to walk into MJ's bedroom. He says when he walked in MJ was sprawled out on the bed with his eyes and mouth open, and Murray was administering chest compressions with one hand.
- The below is a part of his testimony
"Did it appear he was breathing," Walgren asked.
"No sir," Alvarez said.
"His eyes and mouth were open?" the prosecutor asked.
"Yes," the witness said.
"Did he seem to be alive or dead?" Walgren asked.
"Dead, sir," Alvarez said.
- Alvarez said that he was frozen by the sight.
- Alvarez asks "‘Dr. Murray, what happened?" and Murray tells him "He had a reaction. He had a bad reaction"
- Alvarez recalls MJ's kids Prince and Paris following him upstairs and Paris screaming "Daddy" and starting to cry.
- Murray says "Get them out. Don't let them see their father like this" to Alvarez.
- Alvarez says "I said, 'children, don't worry, we'll take care of him, please go outside.' And I escorted them out and left the door ajar,".
- After he escorted the children out of the room, Alvarez noticed the MJ’s penis was out of his underwear and tubing (condom catheter) was attached to it.
- "He just grabbed a handful of bottles, or vials, and he instructed me to put them in a bag," Alvarez testified, adding Murray also told him to place an intravenous bag into another sack. Alvarez said he grabbed a plastic bag from a chair and held it out as the doctor dropped the bottles inside, then put them in a brown canvas bag on the floor as Murray asked him to do. He also confirmed that 911 had not been called yet.
- Alvarez says that the I.V. bag had 'very little fluid' in it and that there was a 'white, milky substance' at the bottom of the I.V. bag.“I noticed that inside (the IV bag), there was like a bottle ... and then I noticed that at the bottom of the bag there was a milk-like substance,” Alvarez testified.
- Only after collecting the bottles, Murray tells Alvarez to call 911. He calls 911 in that call he tells the 911 operator that Jackson's private doctor was there, and she responded that he would be "the higher authority."
- Alvarez said he did not see any heart or blood pressure monitors in the room, but Murray clipped a monitoring device to Jackson’s finger after paramedics were called.
- When the operator said to transfer Jackson to the floor, Alvarez grabbed Jackson's legs and Murray grabbed his upper body. He said at that point he noticed the IV in Jackson's leg that had to be removed.
- On the floor Alvarez said, he did chest compressions while Murray gave the singer mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.“After the second time, he gave a breath, he came up and said, 'You know, this is the first time I give mouth to mouth, but I have to do it, he’s my friend,'" Alvarez said.
- Under cross examination Alvarez acknowledged he had not told police in two initial interviews that Murray had ordered him to remove potential evidence. Below is a part of testimony :
“You didn’t think it was suspicious?” asked defense lawyer Ed Chernoff.
“Apparently not, sir,” Alvarez said.
“You thought he was packing up to go to the hospital, right?” the lawyer asked.
“Yes, sir,” Alvarez replied.
- In cross examination Alvarez was also asked about his relationship with Jackson family and his discussions with other staff members of MJ. Alvarez acknowledged that he had refused to speak to a defense investigator who had sought to interview him, but that in a police interview he had said he might sell his story to the media at a later date.
- Defense also tested Alvarez by asking him to confirm whether it was dark in MJ's room - suggesting his observations may be inaccurate.
- Press accounts describe Alvarez as being tearful during testimony.
Kai Chase Testimony
- Chase testifies that around 12:05 Murray comes down the stairwell and tells her "Get security, get Prince". She says she told Prince "something might be wrong with your dad".
- Chase testifies from Murray's behavior it was evident there was an emergency. She also testified that Murray didn't ask her to call 911.
- She also testified that Murray generally comes down around 10 AM to get the juice she prepared for MJ, she says in that morning Murray didn't come down.
- She mentions that MJ was on an extremely healthy diet, dining on seared ahi tuna salad for lunch the day before he died and that she found it odd that the Tuscan white bean soup she prepared for MJ and Murray the night before and left in the refrigerator for when they returned from rehearsals was untouched when she came to work next day (8:30am).
EMT Richard Senneff Testimony
- EMT Senneff testified that what Murray has told them didn't add up and he had a "gut feeling" Murray wasn't telling the truth.
- For example Senneff said when they came in Murray told them MJ's condition had "just happened" but based on the MJ's dilated pupils, dry eyes and his skin, which was cold to the touch, Senneff believed Jackson may have been dead for more than 20 minutes. “All I can tell you is my gut feeling at the time was this did not just happen, it’s been a period of time,” Senneff testified.
- Senneff also testified that Murray told them Jackson had no underlying condition and was just being treated for dehydration, and that the only medication he had been given was the sedative lorazepam. He said even they repeatedly asked for what medications MJ was given, Murray never mentioned them propofol.
- Senneff testified when they initially came in they thought MJ to be a hospice patient and frail as he looked pale, thin and had a IV stand and a personal doctor by his bedside.
- Senneff testified that paramedics hooked MJ up to an EKG and he was flatline-his hands and feet ‘tinged blue’ and his pupils were fully dilated.
- Senneff testified that despite resuscitation efforts and three rounds of giving MJ epinephrine & atropine, paramedics did not feel a pulse on MJ and their attempts to revive MJ was unsuccessful. Senneff testified Conrad Murray was the only person who claimed to feel a pulse on MJ.
- Senneff testified that Murray refused to pronounce MJ dead on the scene.
- Senneff testified that at UCLA Murray was "spinning ... moving around, nervous, sweating, multitasking."
- In cross examination Murray's lawyers asks if the way MJ looked (thin, frail, black/bluish feet) could be signs of drug addict. Judge stops the question.
