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lopez was there when mj signed the contract for the shows. londell was working upto and after june 25
TMZ states that he was working with Michael Jackson in 1990, but I have conflicting information that shows Peter Lopez was working with Michael Jackson in 2008 at the time the article was written. KTLA is reporting that Peter Lopez was found dead on his lawn. Why the snap decision that it was a suicide if he was shot on his lawn?
lopez was there when mj signed the contract for the shows. londell was working upto and after june 25
I not going for any conspiracies as of yet _ that would be foolish to assume such a thing
Michael Jackson had connections with just about everyone in the entertainment biz including Attorneys_
Every death in the biz of someone that knew MJ is not a MJ conspiracy. Thats just ignorant to assume
Peter Lopez was found in his back yard according to Police and there was also a suicide note found
before we jump to conclusions we should wait for all the evidence. Be patient and base your opinions
on evidence _ just becuase someone once worked for MJ or was associated with him doesnt mean they
were killed _ 1000's of people have worked for or been associated with MJ - he has been a major force
in the entertainment Biz for a long time now _ But I can see people wanting to use anything to promote
thier agenda _ but feel it is dishonest to try do it without the facts and just by assumptions ..
http://bit.ly/drgWcI
I assume we are all looking for TRUTH .. but sometimes people have me wondering about that
based on unsubstantiated comments and rumors fans post .. TRUTH is important to MJs Legacy
rumours assumptions and out right lies have plagued him all his life _ I would be very dishearted if Fans
would do the same concening him now _
Please always Seek Truth _ everthing is NOT a conspiracy
that is irrational thinking to assume that as some have been doing.
I agree with youIt is neither ignorant nor irrational to wonder at the coincidences of three people with a connection to MJ, having committed suicide in the last 10 ten months.
No one here has said, this man was murdered to shut him up, as though it is a fact.
Not to ask the questions and look for facts would be the thing that is both ignorant and irrational. Lets try to leave the labels off of people.
I myself don’t believe that highly in coincidences, though I know they happen on occasion. Hopefully, time will reveal the truth.
Well and I also don't find Michaels own words about conspiracies around him irrational-because he is dead,murdered.What more proof some rationalistic people need to have more?It is neither ignorant nor irrational to wonder at the coincidences of three people with a connection to MJ, having committed suicide in the last 10 ten months.
No one here has said, this man was murdered to shut him up, as though it is a fact.
Not to ask the questions and look for facts would be the thing that is both ignorant and irrational. Lets try to leave the labels off of people.
I myself don’t believe that highly in coincidences, though I know they happen on occasion. Hopefully, time will reveal the truth.
It is neither ignorant nor irrational to wonder at the coincidences of three people with a connection to MJ, having committed suicide in the last 10 ten months.
okay I'm not big on conspiracy theories but how does all these 3 people tie together in the grand conspiracy theory? I also cannot understand why Evan and Klein's assistant is considered as important people in MJ's life? What kind of information they know or role they could play in MJ's life/death etc that automatically a suspicion is added to their deaths? I can understanding the reasoning about Lopez but Evan and Klein's assistant?
ps: klein's assistant was a long term known drug addict and died of OD, we don't know whether it was suicidal or accidental OD.
How is Kliens assistant a known drug addict? What proof is there of that? Just wondering what the sources are.
Speaking of, I dont have the sources with me atm but its been said that Chandler knew info regarding Sony, who wanted both allegations to tarnish MJs image, to send him to jail & to get his catalogue. After MJs death, Chandler was bumped off to tie up a loose end if he decided to speak now that Michael had been killed. This is just speculation.
I'll look for it. It was a while ago during the time theywere first investigating Klein's office about his perscription drug practices.
Edit: I found the TMZ article. The story died. I don't think they ever made public his official COD.
Michael Jackson's Doc -- Ex-Employee Dies
Originally posted Dec 30th 2009 9:50 AM PST by TMZ Staff
TMZ has learned Dr. Arnold Klein, who treated Michael Jackson for decades, had an office employee who just died ... an employee who had a history of drug abuse, even while working for Dr. Klein.
Bruce Ayers, who worked for three years as Dr. Klein's research assistant and confidant, was found dead on a sidewalk on December 18 in Los Angeles.
Dr. Klein tells TMZ he fired the 44-year-old Ayers in February, after learning Ayers was allegedly stealing drugs and money from Klein's office.
We're told Dr. Klein stored certain drugs at a pharmacy he used to fill prescriptions for patients. When the drugs would expire, there was a protocol for destroying them. But Klein says Ayers would go to the pharmacy and get expired Demerol for his own use -- and the pharmacy gave it to him. Klein says the pharmacy violated protocol.
We're told Dr. Klein knew Ayers was a drug addict when he hired him but at the time Ayers was on the wagon. Klein says it became painfully obvious at the beginning of 2009 that Ayers' drug problem had resurfaced. Several members of Klein's staff told the Dr. they would quit unless he fired Ayers.
And, we're told, after Ayers was fired, Klein's staff realized 100 Percocet pills were missing.
We've learned Ayers, who met Michael Jackson many times while working for Klein, had a history of abusing pain meds.
When Ayers' body was discovered, authorities found hospital records showing that he had been admitted to three different hospitals since August, in each case for pain issues -- and in each case he was discharged with various meds.
The L.A. County Coroner has deferred Ayers' cause of death, pending toxicology tests.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/30/micha...-addict-percocet-demerol-drugs/#ixzz0mijm8hLs
I don't think that the Sony connection /speculation started until the second allegations. At 1993 Sony was on the side of paying the accuser and making the allegations go away so that Michael's musical career did not get affected. That was the reason behind the settlement. It doesn't go with wanting his image tarnished and sending him to jail for his catalog.
I thought that we established the working timeline. Bain hired him at 2006 after Branca left. Lopez took part in some big projects such as Thriller 25 (2008) and he was the one that was present during the initial meetings with AEG for TII concerts. He was fired by February 09 before the TII announcement. Katz and later Branca replaced him.
Sunday May 31, 2009
Today’s article in The Los Angeles Times about Michael Jackson contained some of the worst reporting I’ve ever seen.
It was if the reporters just refused to do any research. Instead, they muddled a bunch of disparate facts. Let’s not let this story stand as the record for anything, OK?
I don’t know how they could have screwed up so much about Colony Capital LLC’s involvement with Jackson.
For one thing, Colony Capital and its chief, Thomas Barrack, only have the note on Neverland. They never had anything to do with Jackson’s main loans against his 50% ownership in Sony/ATV Music Publishing. Those loans were sold by Fortress Investment Group to a consortium of Barclays, HSBC, and Sony Music in 2007.
I don’t know if Barrack ever called his “old friend”Philip Anschutz about Jackson. But the truth is: AEG Live’s Randy Phillips tried to get Jackson to agree to perform at the O2 Arena in London as early as December 2007, when I reported it. That was at least a year before Colony and Barrack had anything to do with Jackson.
Barrack makes it sound like Jackson was living in a hovel in Las Vegas when he arrived and “saved” him. Jackson was living in an expensive rental home at the time. He could have moved at any time back to Neverland, or to his parents’ home in Encino, if he didn’t like it.
The L.A. Times reporters obviously have done no research about Jackson’s newly former manager, Tohme Tohme. He is not a doctor. There is no record anywhere of him having been one. He told me directly that he is not “currently” a licensed physician.
The L.A. Times reporters deftly stepped around Tohme’s assertion, on his website, that he’s an ambassador at large to the country of Senegal. The Senegalese U.S. embassy said to this reporter that they have no knowledge of him whatsoever.
There’s more about Tohme: Jackson blames him for the Julien’s Auctions debacle of this past winter, in which all of the Neverland possessions including its front gates were going to be sold to strangers. In the end, Jackson and Tohme were going to lose a court case with Julien’s.
Tohme came in with enough money at the 11th hour to stop the auction. But where he got the money remains a mystery, and who now has the key to the storage spaces is also up in the air.
Colony Capital’s interest in Jackson remains solely about Neverland, and the money they’ve paid to finance it. They hold the note. That’s it. They have simply nothing to do with Jackson’s concerts in London. In 2008, when Fortress called the note on Neverland, it was almost sold at auction. Colony Capital stepped in at that time. They advanced Jackson several million dollars at the time as part of the refinancing.
The L.A. Times reporters seem to think that John Branca helped Michael to buy a 50% stake in the Beatles catalog. In fact: Branca and Jackson bought ATV Music, which contained the Beatles catalog. They merged it with Sony’s music publishing division a few years later because Jackson needed cash. The new deal gave him $90 million and a half-ownership in the new entity, called Sony ATV Music Publishing. Jackson now has loans nearing $400 million secured by his position in that company.
What the L.A. Times doesn’t seem to get: Jackson currently has no official manager or entertainment lawyer. Tohme has been cut off from access to the pop star. Also apparently out is Peter Lopez, the lawyer who did deals for Jackson for the last year. Arfaq Hussain, who the article notes was jailed for four months, is simply assisting the production in London. Jackson, as of now, still has no home rented for his stay. Nothing has met with his approval.
The L.A. Times took a turn at trying to sort out a lot of material that I’ve reported on extensively. What they didn’t grasp is that the yawning gap between Jackson and solvency grows every day, that the only thing that keeps him afloat is that 50% ownership in Sony ATV, and that no matter what he makes from the O2 shows, whether he does one, two, 50, or 100, he is capable of spending as fast as it comes in.
http://buzz.hollywoodreporter.com/2009/05/31/michael-jackson-colony-capital-neverland/
No mention of Branca.Brian Oxman is NOT Michael Jackson’s Lawyer
Thursday June 25, 2009
Michael Jackson hasn’t been dead three hours and Brian Oxman is on TV everywhere being identified as the attorney for the singer or his family.
He is not.
Michael Jackson’s attorney, officially, is Joel Katz, the respected music lawyer from Greenberg Traurig of Atlanta.
Please, news organizations: Brian Oxman was fired by Thomas Mesereau from Michael’s trial in 2005. I was there. He has no knowledge of Michael’s life for the last several years. Oxman sued Jackson looking for legal fees, and lost.
Jackson’s attorney just prior to Katz was Peter Lopez. Some of his business has been handled in New York by Londell McMillan. Jackson’s manager, recently re-signed, is Frank Di Leo, who has been in Los Angeles with him the last several weeks.
More to come.
http://buzz.hollywoodreporter.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-brian-oxman-lawye/
branca was hired on June 17, 2009
According to who and what proof is there of that please? The article above states that only Katz was MJ's official lawyer as of June 25th.
Howard Weitzman, a lawyer for the estate, confirmed, "In mid-June, Michael Jackson retained John Branca to represent him as general and entertainment counsel in his business and personal affairs." Weitzman added, "The letter retaining Branca was shared with lawyers for Katherine Jackson very early in the probate proceedings."
http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/01/micha...oward-weitzman-katherine-jackson-brian-oxman/
Looks like MJ fired Lopez the week of April 15, 2009. Around the same time, he acquired Dileo's lawyer, Katz.
In February the Newshound became the first journalist to break news of Michael Jackson's summer residency. Shortly afterwards, the Newshound received information from Sony and O2 sources that a press conference would take place on Thursday 26th February.
The date came and went and the Newshound's sources were bemused. At the time, it was speculated that company heads could have leaked the wrong date as a diversionary tactic.
The Newshound can now reveal that this was not the case - Jackson really was due to announce the concerts on Thursday 26th February.
Sources involved in organising funding and sponsorship for the concerts say the star is a 'loose cannon' who simply failed to show up in London at the appointed time.
Jackson fired lawyer Peter Lopez early in the week that the announcement had been scheduled, leaving organisers unable to contact him and forcing them to scrap their plans.
When concert promoters eventually contacted Jackson through his manager, Dr Tohme Tohme of Colony Capital, the press conference was rescheduled for the following week.
http://thelowlynewshound.blogspot.com/2009/04/50-nights-in-london-jackson-press.html
Howard Weitzman, a lawyer for the estate, confirmed, "In mid-June, Michael Jackson retained John Branca to represent him as general and entertainment counsel in his business and personal affairs." Weitzman added, "The letter retaining Branca was shared with lawyers for Katherine Jackson very early in the probate proceedings."
http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/01/micha...oward-weitzman-katherine-jackson-brian-oxman/
Well, I think Klein's assistant is strange just because of what he might know concerning what drugs Klein was giving MJ. He was supposedly Klein's confidante and was allowed to have access to medicine even though he was supposedly still a known drug addict by Klein. That doesn't even make sense to me. Klein's actions are suspicious. How can you in good judgement allow a man with a history of drug abuse uncontrolled access to your drugs even if you did think he was on the wagon?
Also that he died around the time that they were beginning their inquiry into Klein's perscription practices. I don't think his death is directly connected to Mj but connected in that he might have some information as to what Klein was doing involving MJ?
Just my thought.
+ ATV catalog wasn't merged with Sony until 1995.
so in 1993 Sony did not have any link to the catalog and would not have any advantage in acquiring it.
Interesting, indeed.
Now Dr. Big-Mouth is claiming he received "death threats" after saying all those lies about Michael. Isn't this interesting too? No much noise about Mr. Lopez death... but so much noise about MJ's sexuality. All in the same week. And Klein involved again. How funny... isn't it? :no:
I agree with you
Of course it is not wrong to wonder_ I never said it was.
the word I used was assume without facts or evidence.
which Im sure you would agree with
maybe you quoted my post by mistake ..
To wonder _ have a wish or desire to know something
To assume _ take to be the case or to be true; accept without verification or proof
okay I'm not big on conspiracy theories but how does all these 3 people tie together in the grand conspiracy theory? I also cannot understand why Evan and Klein's assistant is considered as important people in MJ's life? What kind of information they know or role they could play in MJ's life/death etc that automatically a suspicion is added to their deaths? I can understanding the reasoning about Lopez but Evan and Klein's assistant?
ps: klein's assistant was a long term known drug addict and died of OD, we don't know whether it was suicidal or accidental OD.
There is a tape recording in which Evan says, amongst other things, 'Everything is going according to a certain plan, that isn't just mine'.You know.. Evan Chandler's suicide seemed a bit fishy to me. Remember the quote when he was talking about bringing allegations about MJ, he said there was not only him behind it there was a whole lot of people who wanted to bring MJ down.. he knew.
I do not know how Klein's assistant might have some connection with it. :scratch: After all, he died of an overdose.As for Klein's assistant.. idk about that one.