Palestine conflict

Hamas are 100% terrorists , what they did to iniate this new conflict was truly shocking so Israel have a right to retaliate and defend themselves.

Unfortunately Israel have not stopped and are now looking just as bad as those terrorists.

I've said it before but religion is the main killer , it's made up mumbo jumbo.
 
You have been brainwashed by Islamist propaganda. If you support Hamas you support terrorism. You may as well support Al qaeda and ISIS. They have the exact same ideology.

- I am not white, nor am I a fascist or Nazi apologist. I am Arab. I was born 1 hour drive from the West Bank. I am the same ethnicity as the Palestinians. In fact, what is today Palestine was a region called Southern Syria for 400 years. We are the same people. "Palestine" is an artificial boundary.
- Yes, the Palestinians are colonizers. They arrived in 636, under the first Islamic caliph. They are the descendants of Arab colonialism. The Arabs conquered all of the Middle East and North Africa in 100 years. They treated the indigenous populations, including Jews, like garbage. Palestinians are Arabs mostly from what is today Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
- It is a lie that Jews and Arabs lived happily before the creation of Israel. Look up the dhimmi system. Jews and Christians were treated as third class citizens under their Islamic overlords. They did not live "happily together".
- Israel treated the Arabs much better than the Arab nation treated the Jews after 1948. There used to be 800, 000 Jews living in Arab majority nations. They were forced to flee or deported after 1948. It was ethnic cleansing. Yet, Israel has 2 million Arabs living as equal citizens.
- People around the world today support "Palestine" because they have been brainwashed. They do not take into account that Arab nations have 600 times more land than Israel.

-People have been brainwashed to think that Palestinians are natives fighting against colonial Zionists. When in reality, Jews have always existed in the land, 2000 years before the Islamic conquest. Ottoman records show that Jerusalem had a significant Jewish presence in 1850, nearly 100 years before Israel. European Jews have every right to return to their homelands.

- Israel could have wiped out all of the Arab nations decades ago, since they have nuclear weapons. It is the Arab nations that want to annihilate Israel. Middle Eastern TV programming is obsessed with Israel. They have no religious or political freedom, yet they blame Israel for all of their problems. All of the Arab nations are antisemitic.

sorry but the one brainwashed is you, if you support IDF and the Israeli military which is getting billions of dollars from the west what does that make you then?? Al qaeda and ISIS arent even legitimate islamic factions as both of these groups were created and funded by the US,UK,France,etc Hamas and Alqueda(ISIS) are completely different from one another, one is a puppet of western imperialism and Hamas is fighting for the liberation of Palestinians they are not fighting to create a western backed system. yes christians,muslims and jews lived together in jerusalem but all of palestine in general before 1948.
Actually i have heard from many other arabs living in Israel that they treat you like second class citizens and don't allow you to support palestinians, Israel does not treat arabs better then arab nations this once again is a colonizer racist belief brought upon by zionists who are creating revisionist history. also i never said there werent any jews prior to 1948... zionists are from europe and the US they are not from Palestine. i find it really disgusting and sad to hear of the self hating arabs that live in Israel and not just arabs i have seen other ethnic groups of living in Israel who are going along with the racist zionist narrative without ever questioning their motives, if you actually look at the video i posted these disgusting colonizers and settlers are on camera laughing and admitting to their crimes of rape, mass killings,violence on camera. maybe if you actually left Israel you would see for yourself that you have been lied to continuously since you were a child most likely
 
Al qaeda and ISIS arent even legitimate islamic factions as both of these groups were created and funded by the US,UK,France,etc Hamas and Alqueda(ISIS) are completely different from one another, one is a puppet of western imperialism and Hamas is fighting for the liberation of Palestinians

Maybe you should read the accounts of Coptic Christians when the Muslim armies invaded Egypt in 641. That will help you to determine if Al Qaeda/ ISIS are Islamic... That was only 1100 years before the US ever existed...Hamas can fight for the "liberation" of whatever they want, it does not excuse targeting civilians which is terrorism. I never said I supported the Israeli operation either.


Actually i have heard from many other arabs living in Israel that they treat you like second class citizens and don't allow you to support palestinians, Israel does not treat arabs better then arab nations this once again is a colonizer racist belief brought upon by zionists who are creating revisionist history.


No, it is the Middle Eastern Arab nations that treat religious and ethnic minorities like Christians, Druze, Yazidis and others like trash. Christians live in fear all over the Middle East. Jews risk their lives even travelling there. Once again, there used to be 800, 000 Jews living in the Arab nations of the Middle East. They had to flee or were expelled after 1948. Even though they has nothing to do with Israel. Why? It was Simply racism by the Arab governments. Were they compensated? Was there an international outcry? There is only 1000 left in Morocco. In Contrast, there are 2 million Arab citizens within Israel and millions in the Palestinian territories. They were not completely ethnically cleansed which is what the Arab governments did.
zionists are from europe and the US they are not from Palestine.

So what? They are returning to their original homeland. They are not just from Europe. Many are Middle Eastern Jews, who are genetically virtually the same as ancient Jews. Even Jews from Europe and the US have ancient Jewish genetic heritage. They are a mixture of Jewish ancestry and marriages with the local European populations. And even so, so what? Aboriginal Australians are still considered Aboriginal even if some only have 50 % or 40% or even in some cases 10 % Aboriginal ancestry. They are still Aboriginal. It is the same with the Jews.
yes christians,muslims and jews lived together in jerusalem but all of palestine in general before 1948.

Once again, I said that. However, Christians and Jews were treated like garbage, third class citizens under the Islamic religious apartheid known as the dhimmi system. It was an Islamic colonial system.

Jews and Arabs are related genetically. One (Arabs) have 600 times more land than the other. How paranoid must you be to not allow the Jews to have 1 in 600 of the land of their genetic cousins, which was theirs originally.
 
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Lately my heart and my mind have been with palestine, and as such, I've been wondering what michael thought about it then, and were would he stand now. Paris said that she stands with Israel, since she is Jewish - I thought that was a bit odd thing to say at least, since thousands of kids and people have been dying since the creation of the Israeli estate (and cause michael always said he was the only parent, and even Debbie wasn't born Jewish, she converted idk if Paris was implying something else with that statement), and my first thoughts were... What would Mike think of That? But then we all know that he voluntarily (?) associated himself with shmuley and geller, and even meet ariel Sharon through themeven though shmuley says he knew it was going to happen, and uri said he did not. But shmuley clearly has an agenda and he is zionist (you can go check his Twitter, he has been making some awful remarks about killing Palestinians). Then again we all know he was used by this guys but even though he wrote palestine don't cry in 93, It's just weird to me that he could gaslight Israel, and he has pics with the army, the flag of Israel, but never publicly supported palestine? Could it be because of the industry? I wanna ear your thoughts, soldiers of love. I stand by peace and the end of the apartheid estate created by Isreal, and most of all the end of the massive killings that have been going on for years. Even in 2008 there was an Israeli attack were they killed circa 1300 innocent civilians. But also I wanna be clear : I love Jewish people and I love their culture and their religion. I'm from Europe, I grew up knowing all about the holocaust, and I've always hated what happened to them and have nothing but respect for the Jewish community. But I also think that what has been going on since 1948 is unforgivable.

hi there. Id like to make some points because your post seems to be a little unorganised. firstly, as we all know, Michael didn’t have a political stand, not publicly at least. I think that his only stand would be “not to judge a person until you have walked two moons in his moccasins”. I am not saying that people should not think critically about the conflict, but one must enquire for a deeper understandin.

Paris is born a Jew because her mother converted to such. Converts in Judaism are higher regarded so if anything, Debbie’s conversion makes Paris more of a Jew. Notice I am not using the word “Jewish”, But “Jew”.. being a Jew is not a choice, but living as one is. Most Jews you know zero relation to Judaism and it’s ok. Paris had since converted to Christianity while living with her grandmother, but that conversion is null in higher realms, because there is no way to escape your Jewish soul. You were either present at mount Sinai or wasn’t.
if you had watched any of the footage from October 7th as I am sure Paris did, you would be scared too. So nothing odd here.

Shmuely and Uri have little to do with Israel and I am not sure what was the basis or factor that had them have sharon meet with Michael, but I would have liked to be a fly on the wall. at Any case, it shows you he did recognise Israel and it’s right to exist, which is saying plenty.

perhaps you can find MJs support for Palestine in his song BAD with the following lyrics: “You are throwing stones to hide your hands”. the song was written in midst of the first intifada aka “the stone war”. In the short film mj had Sean Lennon around wearing a black and white khafyia in solidarity of the people of Palestine, which at the time were forbidden from raising the Palestinian flag, so they adopted the kafyia as a sign of rebellion. But what people tend to ignore is that the kafyia is nothing but a head scarf worn by men in the harsh desert climate.

MJ was in Israel during the dangerous tour, but that was a direct result of him having a Jew as his tour promoter And not a personal choice. He took pictures with the army here, but unlike anywhere else, it was with the women corps. Again, we can’t tell if this was a personal choice.

im not going to address your personal opinion on the conflict because this Is obviously about MJ. I can only say that as a spectator I can find many similarities between the way MJ and Israel are treated by the public and media.
 
i know MJ had little involvement with this album, but I still think it is interesting to note Randy was wearing the Israeli paratrooper barret for the cover art picture On 2300 Jackson street.
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im not sure what it means, but Randy always had the best fashion sense After latoya.
 
It doesn’t take a genius to see it is God’s displease that drived Jews out of their land and had their temple destroyed, but the fact they are now back in the land again after 3000 is also quite the historic event/period which does harbor some labor pains. what is happening in the land of Israel is a microcosmos of the world and Jews were chosen to be the canary in the gold mine. the answer for any earthly problem lies in “increasing the height of your spirituality“ (shout) and it is unlikely for the “Jewish” of All states to be the one wiped out in the process, if you know what I mean. In fact, jews kept a solid presence in this land throughout all those years and some of them even converted to Islam or Christianity by force just so they can keep farming their land. the real point I am trying to make here is that there is a direct correlation between the number of Jews and Arabs which resided in this territory… Palestine was in fact a desert , but then attracted many work immigrants from surrounding areas AS the Jews started arriving here in the beginning of last century to work the land and supplied work opportunities. And that’s how you got all these Arabs here And you can check it.
 
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