Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

[bouee]

I don't see it that way. I think they are stuck in this line of defense, basically because Michael's health was declining under Murray's care, and they were aware of it, june 20th being the worst example, among other examples.

I thought at the beginning of the trial that they would have a very easy defense : yes they hired Murray, on Michael's behalf and at his expense. Yes it was a mistake, they should have done a cash advance. They still could argue that there is not much difference because Murray's contract states that Michael would have to pay it back 100%.
From there put the bigger part of the blame on Murray, the rest on Katherine and Michael and say that they trusted the doctor, the doctor said this, the doctor said that, we did what the doctor said.

They're not doing it because it wouldn't fly, they know they can't, so they resort to a more complictated, sometimes far fetched and irrelevant defense.

That's my opinion at this moment anyway, we'll see what they do and what the jury will think of that. I'm not very optimistic for AEG though.

 

[Petrarose]

I don't post in this thread often, but do scan through daily. Some things are getting very tiring. Is there a member ignore option?

Ha the ignore does not work, because if someone quotes the ignored person, the ignored person post will show up. What I do is look at each name to the left as I read. If I spot particular names in a thread, I skip that post. When someone quotes the person, I read the poster's comment but not the quote. See if that works for you. In 09 I used to look at the photo under people's names to identify them. However, by 2010 I saw a lot of people were choosing the same photo. I would read a post thinking it was "Z" and wonder why "Z" was sounding so off. Then, I looked at the name and saw it was not "Z" but "Mr. T." I then began looking at names as I read.

 

[marebear]

My opinion is that the Jacksons could win. You never know. I think they showed that AEG could be disrespectful and treated Michael poorly especially behind his back. Those emails and things were unprofessional and I didn't like it. I don't believe that AEG knew about the propofol or what Murray was doing. I think everybody thought something might not be right but they based it on Michael's past and rumors about his drug use and such. We have to see how AEG present their case. I just wish Michael was here. I hate this whole thing.

 

[Petrarose]

Alan Duke is reporting that Katherine will be the last witness for Jacksons side.

WHAT. Katherine on the witness stand. This I have to see. There will be contradictions upon contradictions. Plus I think she will use the "grandmother crying" sympathy card. If the defense ask her about her contradictions, then Duke and Panish will go outside the court and claim the defense was badgering poor grief-stricken grandmother.

Question: If the jury say that AEG hired Muarry, can Muarry then ask for payment + interest from AEG?

 

[serendipity]

Yes, I suppose they want Grace on the stand at all costs because of that bank account and / or are trying to defend Michael (??? I can't believe i just wrote that ).

Keeping a crazy nanny for so many years, someone who was taking care of the kids on a daily basis does not give a great image, IMO. There has to be more to this, and I don't want to guess.

Grace and also maybe Debbie could testify with better words to the effect that losing Michael had on the kids & specifically Paris.

Well are you saying you think Paris made it all up?

 

[ivy]

My opinion is that the Jacksons could win. You never know.

Yes you never know. I personally never try to predict jury verdicts. even in instances when you think you know what the verdict will be , jurors can surprise you. The most recent Zimmerman verdict is a really good example for this. So if a case goes to trial, it's anybody's game until the verdict comes.

and claim the defense was badgering poor grief-stricken grandmother.

I find it interesting that Jackson lawyers kept claiming similar stuff but they are the ones that put both Prince and Katherine on the stand.

Question: If the jury say that AEG hired Muarry, can Muarry then ask for payment + interest from AEG?

no he can't

Well are you saying you think Paris made it all up?

I wouldn't make this personal about bouee. Simply because that has been Jacksons strategy. AEG used Paris's deposition video to impeach / hurt credibility of Kai Chase. Jacksons side through testimony has been trying to portray Paris as a confused girl.

 

[serendipity]

I wouldn't make this personal about bouee. Simply because that has been Jacksons strategy. AEG used Paris's deposition video to impeach / hurt credibility of Kai Chase. Jacksons side through testimony has been trying to portray Paris as a confused girl.

I only asked because of her/his last comment about Grace and Debbie possibly explaining better how MJ's death has affected Paris, which made it seem to me that they agree with the Jacksons strategy/explanation of Paris being a confused girl and therefore possibly making up or embellishing the story. I could be wrong of course, that's why I asked.

I don't know about Debbie, but Grace obviously will try to clear her name and will likely continue what the Jacksons have started with the "confused girl" explanation IMO.

 

[ivy]

^^

well some people approach to this lawsuit as truth or fairness but lawsuits are a lot more about what you can prove.

Given that Paris is most likely not going to testify hence cannot defend her comments, strategically by saying she's confused to counter AEG using her words to hurt Chase's credibility makes sense.

 

[jamba]

Hi, Jamba!
in parts are the dates in your posting identically with the Estate-Claim against AllGood/Allocco.

Is this
"Feb. 12th LR and Allocco meet with Dennis Hawk"
from Sullivan??????
(I am a little bit surprised about this.)

Yes, RS has that Feb. 12th date, but RS copied a lot of info from muzikfactory blog--just lifted it. LR has his own book where he mentions this meeting, so RS could have gotten it from there as well.

Just wondering, why you were surprised. I don't have RS's book but I copied his timeline from google books pages.

 

[Mechi]

Don't everybody forget the episode Philips had with Michael before the anouncement. Those were surely no 'flu symptoms'. Add that knowledge to the knowledge of all those symptoms Michael later showed... To follow Ortegas suggestion for a psychological evaluation... at last the proven try to convince Michael to that (no matter if he would have agreed or not)... wheeew it would have saved AEG from a lot of problems here now.


I guess their defense will also go the direction that there was a lot of pressure from the families side through the family-reunion deal... on Michael and that's why also on Murray?!

 

[8701girl]

I hate the way the children are being used in this trial i wish they could live in peace

 

[ivy]

Don't everybody forget the episode Philips had with Michael before the anouncement. Those were surely no 'flu symptoms'. Add that knowledge to the knowledge of all those symptoms Michael later showed... To follow Ortegas suggestion for a psychological evaluation... at last the proven try to convince Michael to that (no matter if he would have agreed or not)... wheeew it would have saved AEG from a lot of problems here now.

Michael who hadn;t performed close to a decade and went through a molestation trial was worried no one would going to show up for announcement and had a few drinks? Do you really think that shows serious psychological problems? Some might think it's just the nerves. I have seen people shake like leaves or even faint when they need to talk in front of a group of people.

 

[jamba]

Let's try something.

This upcoming week is supposed to be the last week for Jacksons side main case. So what do you think overall about their case? The testimonies that worked well or against them?

What is your overall evaluation

Re what I think overall about their case--it is not convincing to me (but I am not on the jury of course). To me, they have shown emails in which MJ is referred to in a derogatory way, but how does that translate into actual negligence? they have had people testify that MJ was alarmingly ill (Faye, etc), and yet this last point is contradicted by the coroner's report that said he was healthier than the average 50 year old and by the 'miracle" transformation of the last 2 rehearsals. To me, they have not proved that AEG hired CM except in the context of MJ's insistence, so to my mind, any hiring that was taking place was due to MJ's express insistence and done reluctantly or even unwillingly. Phillips said he treid to talk MJ out of it. They have not proved that by asking CM to get MJ to rehearsals (as opposed to CM preventing MJ from getting to rehearslas, which he did once) they put undue pressure on CM such that he would be expected to kill or harm his patient. Doing a background check was a long shot on a private personal physician, and also needed CM's permission, which was unlikely. Even if they discovered CM's debt, how could they stop MJ from his insistence on CM being hired. MJ himself was in a massive amount of debt--did he harm anyone as a result?

CM was careless from Day One (apparently May 8th) when he started giving propofol without the proper administering equipment and without the proper training about what to do when breathing stopped, which happens commonly when people receive propofol.

The only expert that gave new info was the one who reviewed the medical records and concluded MJ was not addicted to demerol or other drugs after 1993 rehab. The main witness who was helpful to me was Ortega. He helped me understand the June 20th meeting and also the dramatic turnaround of the last 2 rehearsls. Phillips was helpful too and I understood more why he wrote those emails in London.

The witnesses who worked against them IMO were Karen Faye, who was combative and yet admitted in spite of MJ's terribly ill appearance, she chose not to speak to him about it, and Randy Phillips, who gave Panish as good as he got and even though the judge reprimanded the 2 of them, it was possibly a way for the jury to see Panish as overbearing and bullying.

The main point in their favor is the one that Phillips did not do enough to follow up on Ortega's concerns on the 19th. That is the only way IMO they can convince the jury of their case is by working that angle. But Ortega never said "get rid of Murray--I suspect Murray is doing something really harmful to MJ." Someone once made an analogy that if you are in an unfamiliar room, and all the light go out, and you have to find the door and leave immediately, this is a hard task. In some ways, AEG was in that situation. They couldn't find the door. Should they have known where it was? That Murray was the problem? I think not.

 

[8701girl]

i just saw this :

revealed that Paris was under siege from fans of his father, who wanted her to be revealed in the process that investigates the death of the singer.

How are we to blame for that?!

 

[AliCat]

"Ortega said he was trying to alert AEG Live officials about Jackson's condition and trusted them to get the singer appropriate care."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/n...michael-jacksons-condition-director-testifies

Apparently Ortega didn't think Conrad Murray was giving Michael Jackson appropriate care. Michael Jackson knew Kenny Ortega was concerned, because of the meeting held on Saturday, June 20, 2009, at Michael's house.

Conrad Murray was so incensed at Kenny Ortega's decision, questioning his motives. Conrad Murray did not want to be unemployed. He was bound and determined to keep his job as Michael Jackson's personal physician.

The fact that Conrad Murray challenged the famous director and choreographer, Kenny Ortega, calling him an amateur medical professional. What a situation. Michael Jackson was present in that room, seeing Conrad Murray's reaction to Kenny Ortega's concerns about him and yet he only speaks up to say he is fine.

Michael Jackson had missed several rehearsals during the week of June 14-19, 2009. When he finally shows up on Friday, June 19, 2009, he is not doing well. Kenny Ortega had so many alarm bells going off in his head, about Michael's condition that Friday, June 19, 2009. Here, Michael Jackson, on June 20, 2009, was going to set the record straight about what was going on. Why he was missing rehearsals and then showing up after missing a week of rehearsals, with flu like symptoms and not very coherent.

Kenny wants to get to the bottom of the past week. He emails his concerns to Randy Phillips and a meeting is scheduled for June 20, 2009.

Michael Jackson says he is fine!

 

[Tygger]

Serendipity, Passy001, the verdict form is what it is. I will just repost Ivy and Bouee's posts:

So the criminal trial never determined the responsibility was on Murray 100%, it only determined Murray was a substantial factor.

In this instance what is happening Jacksons are adding AEG to the mix. I don't think they deny possible Michael's role in this - at least not according to the opening statements. Jacksons argument is that AEG is responsible for Murray's actions as there is an employee - employer relationship and AEG either was a contributing factor and/or did not do enough when there were warning signs. AEG's argument is personal choice , personal responsibility. Just as Jacksons don't deny Michael wanted Murray, AEG argument is that this ( Murray & Propofol) was all Michael's choice and therefore it was his responsibility.

AEG in their verdict form simply ignore Murray. They ask who is repsonsible for Michael's death (as opposed to a factor) and name AEG, Katherine and Michael.

Let's try something.

This upcoming week is supposed to be the last week for Jacksons side main case. So what do you think overall about their case? The testimonies that worked well or against them?

What is your overall evaluation

Bouee’s response is close enough to what I would say. I only differ in that damages should be paid to Michael’s mother and his children as they did indeed suffer the lost. If they are successful in this civil trial, they deserve damages as any successful plaintiff in a successful civil trial does. It can be considered discriminatory for jurors to look at plaintiffs and decide they do not feel they are eligible for damages even if the trial is favorable to them.

I have to say I do not understand the comments about Michael's daughter. I do not feel the plaintiffs are portraying her as anything; they are trying to protect her fragile state. She suffered a great lost with her father passing and most likely felt abandoned when Rwaramba, who she most likely saw as a mother figure, left. As a child, she may not have understood the reasons behind Rwaramba's absence and may have resented her. Children almost always feel they are the reason someone they care for leaves because they do not understand all of the complicated adult reasons. I am saying I do not understand the comments but, I will accept that I do not. I do not want to have a back and forth discussion about it.

 

[bouee]

I only asked because of her/his last comment about Grace and Debbie possibly explaining better how MJ's death has affected Paris, which made it seem to me that they agree with the Jacksons strategy/explanation of Paris being a confused girl and therefore possibly making up or embellishing the story. I could be wrong of course, that's why I asked.

I don't know about Debbie, but Grace obviously will try to clear her name and will likely continue what the Jacksons have started with the "confused girl" explanation IMO.

Sorry I wasn't clear : no, I don't think Paris made it up.

I think AEG should NOT have used her video at that point. I would have understood if they had used it when PG testified about firing Grace, but they did not at that point. They used it when Kai Chase was describing the relationship of the kids with Grace. So at that moment, it was totally irrlevant since the relationship with Grace is irrelevant to this trial.

To me that was unnecessary and very low from AEG at that point. I think they did that for strategical reasons : discredit Grace and/or Michael and/or put Paris in a difficult position.

At that point in time, it was unclear if Paris would testify or not. She had just tried to kill herself and was in hopsital. If she had had to testify she would have had to explain that comment herself.

Then following Paris' suicide attempt, Grace re appeared. Before that, the Jacksons lawyers said they couldn't locate her.

Now the Jacksons have to deal with that, and they asked several witnesses , including Prince about that. You can't really explain what she said, unless you know why Michael said that about Grace. So they're saying Paris is confused.
This is ALSO strategical, they could leave it at that and not ask other witnesses about it. It's most likely to put Grace in the stand / give her back some credibility and explain why there was a bank account in Grace's name with money from Michael for Katherine on it in 2006.

Grace (if she takes the stand) and Debbie will most likely also testify about Paris, and the effect that losing her dad had on her. Grace can aslo explain why Paris is "confused" : explain the reason why Michael said that to the kids. I don't know if she would though.

In her video Paris said that's what he (Michael) told US . Prince was not asked by either party about what Michael said about Grace.

 

[Mechi]

Michael who hadn;t performed close to a decade and went through a molestation trial was worried no one would going to show up for announcement and had a few drinks? Do you really think that shows serious psychological problems? Some might think it's just the nerves. I have seen people shake like leaves or even faint when they need to talk in front of a group of people.

No I am not thinking it shows serious psychological problems... noone could ever say that without a proper evaluation and a proper diagnosis... but it surely deserves to not be ignored.
Even more when you add those 'flu symptoms' and the email from Kenny Ortega.
Those are indeed 'red flags' to involve someone else than only (even a very very good highly profiled) a cardiologist. I think, Kenny was very much on point for an amateur just feeling obviously more responsibility for Michael and the whole project than obviously AEGppl involved, my respect for that!

They were running out of time. Priorities were different. I understand that. However if they at least could prove they would have tried to convince Michael and/or the Murray guy to something like that, they wouldn't be in such problems now. *shrugs*

 

[Bubs]

No I am not thinking it shows serious psychological problems... noone could ever say that without a proper evaluation and a proper diagnosis... but it surely deserves to not be ignored.
Even more when you add those 'flu symptoms' and the email from Kenny Ortega.
Those are indeed 'red flags' to involve someone else than only (even a very very good highly profiled) a cardiologist. I think, Kenny was very much on point for an amateur just feeling obviously more responsibility for Michael and the whole project than obviously AEGppl involved, my respect for that!

They were running out of time. Priorities were different. I understand that. However if they at least could prove they would have tried to convince Michael and/or the Murray guy to something like that, they wouldn't be in such problems now. *shrugs*

AEG have been in the business long enough to think it might have been case of stage fright, very common on entertainment business.
You took a long leap from March announcement to June when KO thought MJ had a flu?
There is 3 months between incidents, and KO might have been thinking Mj had a flu because the place they were rehearsing was like freezer, but to tie those 2 incidents together is a bit too much.

 

[Mechi]

AEG have been in the business long enough to think it might have been case of stage fright, very common on entertainment business.
You took a long leap from March announcement to June when KO thought MJ had a flu?
There is 3 months between incidents, and KO might have been thinking Mj had a flu because the place they were rehearsing was like freezer, but to tie those 2 incidents together is a bit too much.

Well let's say I hope they learned something in addition to their long time experiences in business now!
Let me try to explain again...

RP told about that Michael drunk or pretend to be drunk episode.
RP told about Michael in tears cuz he couldn't even give his children a home anymore.

Michael was showing other symptoms but they attributed that to visits at Kleins before June.
They just didn't make sure.

Michael was also 'missing' rehearsals before and in June.

KO asked explicitly for psychological evaluation of Michael by a top psychiatrist only in June.


RP could have knotted those things together at least latest then.

There was a real chance to avoid that trouble AEGlive is in here now...that's all I'm saying.

 

[Bubs]

WHAT. Katherine on the witness stand. This I have to see. There will be contradictions upon contradictions. Plus I think she will use the "grandmother crying" sympathy card. If the defense ask her about her contradictions, then Duke and Panish will go outside the court and claim the defense was badgering poor grief-stricken grandmother.

Duke and Panish:rofl:
No doubt they are going to bring out heavy stuff about Katherine. I was wondering if it is about Allgood, but they don't have witnesses from Allgood in their list, so it got to be something else? The proposed verdict form indicates that they will show something about her actions(?) that made them to put Katherine's name on same line with MJ, CM, AEG for negligience and fault for MJ's death.
15. Was Katherine Jackson's negligence or wrongful conduct a substantial factor in causing Michael Jackson's death?
Yes / No
Please go on question 16.
16. Please identify the percentage of the total negligence and fault for Michael Jackson's death was due to conduct of Michael Jackson, Katherine Jackson and each defendant you answered yes in question 11. The percentages must add to 100%.
Michael Jackson ____%
Katherine Jackson____%
AEG Live ________%
AEG Live Productions____%
Gongaware _______%
Phillips _________%

That brought to my mind Randy's lovingly written letter to the executors, I had to read it again and this is what he wrote:
"She is being hit from all sides. AEG is now evoking fear into our mother in an attempt to convince her to call off the wrongful death lawsuit against AEG. AEG has been very vocal about how they are going to destroy her and her family publicly and blame her for Michael’s death. Since then, they’ve waisted no time harassing each and every family member, including Michael’s children in a barrage of depositions, where they are asking personal, inappropriate and disrespectful questions that, to say the least, have nothing to do with his passing. This is something children should never have to experience; neither should an eighty-two year old woman. There has been no objection from you, the executors of Michael’s estate, regarding AEG heinous and heartless threats toward our mother, our family or his children. Why?"

The part above made me laugh as he is complaining about AEG "harrassing kids and family with questions that has nothing to do with MJ's passing, and he thinks the executors should have made big bad AEG to stop questioning family and make them pass the money, no questions asked. Stupid Randy :doh:
In big bad world, when you sue someone, you are expected to answer to some questions.
Secondly, he says that children should never have to exprerience questioning from AEG. He should point the fingers at his own mother as she as their legal guardian put their names down to claim.

Moreover, if they were smart, they should have removed those little notes from MJ about what Branca should do in the future. Those little notes are in the evidence now, and indeed shows that MJ did not make it clear to family that he hated Branca, or maybe he hated Branca but still wanted him to work for him

Reminder:
Our brother told us, in no uncertain terms and without hesitation in the months prior to his death, that he despised both of you and that he did not want either of you to have anything to do with his life or estate for that matter.

I'm looking forward Randy's testimony and how he is going to testify where and when he saw MJ last.

 

[Bubs]

Well let's say I hope they learned something in addition to their long time experiences in business now!
Let me try to explain again...
RP told about that Michael drunk or pretend to be drunk episode.
RP told about Michael in tears cuz he couldn't even give his children a home anymore.
Michael was showing other symptoms but they attributed that to visits at Kleins before June.
They just didn't make sure.
Michael was also 'missing' rehearsals before and in June.
KO asked explicitly for psychological evaluation of Michael by a top psychiatrist only in June.

RP could have knotted those things together at least latest then.
There was a real chance to avoid that trouble AEGlive is in here now...that's all I'm saying.

Them being in entertainment business, they know there are alcohol and drugs around people, but they are not there to babysit them, the are concert promoters. They are promoting Rolling Stones at the moment, and if one of them dies for drug use, I don't think anyone would sue them for not babysitting them.

Wasn't RP telling what Tohme told him? I thought he testified that he was outside and Tohme was inside, and Tohme told him those things? To me that is not warning sign at all and it was one off occasition so naturally they thought it was case of nerves.

I thought Randy said that MJ cried because he wanted his kids have home, not because he couldn't even give a home for them? We all have read posts about how MJ cried quite often for various reason, and again to me it is not something that raises questions.

Yes, RP freaked out when they noticed that after Klien visits MJ was a bit loopy. They wanted to know what Klein is giving to MJ, not CM.

RP testified that MJ told KO that he didn't need to rehearse because he has been dancing his songs all his life.

Yes, KO asked psychological evaluation, and wasn't there talk about getting therapist on board as per Branca's email to RP?
Maybe he wasn't as fast as you knotting those things together, but then again some of the points you mentioned wouldn't have raised my alarm, and prior June, he didn't have perfect hindsight.

Overall, I don't agree with you that any person should/could/would have tied those things together and got the same result as you.

 

[Mechi]

At least KO got the same result as me.

I might remember that wrong but wasn't RP pretty much inside 'yelling that the walls were shaking' and 'slapping' Michael according to his own testimony or at least telling it in this words others through his phone? but well that was of cuz him being only a drama queen. lol

well Bubs let's just agree to disagree! :yes:

 

[LastTear]

@Tygger, you asked me to provide an example and I did that, to continue to discuss will derail the thread and bore it's readers. Sometime this year Murray would have served out his punishment for his crime and he then becomes a free man, at that point if someone is willing to pay him for his story or even his input into his story then he is free to profit from it.

@Bubs

No doubt they are going to bring out heavy stuff about Katherine. I was wondering if it is about Allgood, but they don't have witnesses from Allgood in their list, so it got to be something else? The proposedverdict form indicates that they will show something about her actions(?) that made them to put Katherine's name on same line with MJ, CM, AEG for negligience and fault for MJ's death.

All I could think of was Joe telling Katherine something was wrong with Michael and her not doing anything given that she had a free pass to him. I'm interested to hear the last time she spoke to Michael on the phone, I read somewhere that it was two weeks before he died, that actually shocked me so I would be interested hearing directly from her.


Randy's letter read to me like a man panicking that all his plans were slipping away. lol Perhaps KJ was having second thoughts about the whole business.

ETA Allgood has to factor in this trial somewhere, AEG would be fools not to use it.

 

[Bubs]

All I could think of was Joe telling Katherine something was wrong with Michael and her not doing anything given that she had a free pass to him. I'm interested to hear the last time she spoke to Michael on the phone, I read somewhere that it was two weeks before he died, that actually shocked me so I would be interested hearing directly from her.

ETA Allgood has to factor in this trial somewhere, AEG would be fools not to use it.

Would that qualify as negligence or wrongful conduct a substantial factor in causing Michael's death?

I can think of factors like added pressure from family re Allgood, then there is family inventions (thats what they call concertventions) and Katherine didn't do anything to help MJ or failed to inform AEG about MJ's alledged drug abuse (their words not mine).

Yes, I would like to hear what they said when she talked on the phone with MJ, although we won't be hearing the whole lot or what we hear might be distorted.
I wonder how she is going to cope on stand, as she wasn't able to speak to tv crew about granny-napping episode without reading it from paper, and during her deposition she forgot Donte's name. Her lawyers must have spent ages with her trying to prep her testimony.

 

[LastTear]

@Bubs, I don't know, she was told by another family member that Michael was sick (or whatever words were used) and that she needed to do something but chose not to help, perhaps substantial factor is too strong alone, but if you add, as you said, Allgood and perhaps pressure for financial support perhaps that all adds up to substantial factor. I'm just guessing here really.

I'm sure Katherine has been well prepared to take the stand and I'm sure she will be compelling regarding her loss. I just don't know how 'tough' AEG lawyers will be on her.

 

[ivy]

the verdict form is what it is.

I hope everyone realizes that we don't know the final verdict form.

What happened is parties filed their initial versions - which I posted. The goal is to combine them in a way both parties agree. There were several motions discussing those, arguing for what they want, filing oppositions to what other party wants. I posted one of those motions, the rest were sealed. There was at least one hearing about the verdict forms. Judge said she would take it under consideration. We haven't heard anything about it.

So we have no idea how the final verdict form would look like. So please don't mix up a proposed first draft verdict forms with the final version that we haven't seen.

 

[ivy]

I think AEG should NOT have used her video at that point. I would have understood if they had used it when PG testified about firing Grace, but they did not at that point. They used it when Kai Chase was describing the relationship of the kids with Grace. So at that moment, it was totally irrlevant since the relationship with Grace is irrelevant to this trial.

To me that was unnecessary and very low from AEG at that point. I think they did that for strategical reasons : discredit Grace and/or Michael and/or put Paris in a difficult position.

They used the video to discredit Kai Chase. Kai who knew Grace for 2 weeks and Michael for 8 weeks were having statements about how wonderful Grace is etc. They played Paris's statement. It was to hurt Kai Chase's credibility and make jurors think she doesn't know what she's talking about. It's very basic impeachment.

At the end of the trial judge will tell the jurors that they would decide to believe any witnesses and they can choose to believe all, parts or none of a person's testimony. That's why parties try to impeach others witnesses. The idea is to catch them in a lie so that they will be discredited and jurors will not pay attention to their testimony.

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I don't think AEG will be tough on Katherine. They would probably ask a few questions mainly about why she sued AEG and did not sue Murray.

 

[Soundmind]

I hope they can ask her about all the deals she made since MJ died using his kids. Let the jurors see that regardless of the millions she got from his estate she was still trying to get more and more .

 

[LastTear]

I certainly think that any money made by Katherine and monies received from the estate should be taken into account for any possible payout if it comes to that. AEG could show that Katherine's financial fortunes have improved since Michaels passing.