Now aeg AND Sony gaining money of Michael...hmm all soo odd.. LISTEN FOR DICK GREGORY , AUG 8TH 2009

Can't wait to this saturday to hear DG speak. This is gonna be very informative!
 
sorry but i am disgusted with the last two posts...we are talking about theories and i think they are racist in siting a religion as a reason behind all this..specially the fact they are jewish...that is absurd and i want those posts banned...they are so irrelevant...you could just say those people are dodgy and near to michael...mentioned the fact they are jewish is neither here no there are you are making a stereotypical judgment about a people...it is uncalled for



The Rockerfellas and Rothschilds funded world war 1 and 2. If you do research on this you will find that is the truth, zionists and jews are not the same thing, it is extremely complex the zionists are/ were behind the exploitation of the jews. if you point out that they funded world wars they accuse you of being rascist as they use the jewish religion to hide behind but they are not jews . There is a difference, if you say it is rascist then you are just playing into their hands that is how it has been orchestrated it tokeep the truth censored.

I thought you wanted the truth, If you want these posts deleted then you believe in censorship of the truth. The owner of the AEG and Staples centre could be relevant,you said yourself it goes much deeper than the just the doctors.

I don't believe it is just about the catelogue, that is one part of it, I think it is multi faceted, I also believe that with control of the catelogue Michael would have had a lot of power in the music industy and the illuminati, (I hate that word, there is nothing illuminated about them) control the music industry, the way they want to run it is a conflict with what Michael was about. I believe it is also about MJ message of love healing forgiveness and the postive energy he would have generated, at this particular time. The amount of people MJ could reach would be around a billion which is why he had global power and influence if mass amount of people sang heal the world has the power to have some affect of uniting divided countries, and creating postive energy. wht about they don't care about us, I don't think TPTB would want people singing those lyrics on a mass scale, they might become aware of what it is all about. Music is also a very powerful healing tool and Michael was very aware of that.
TPTB are behind the decisions of world governments they have no interests in countires being united or at peace otherwise we would have peace in the world by now if that was their true interest. They have interests in them being divided and fighting. They benefit financially from selling weapons etc. fighting and division even on a small scale keeps people distracted from true spirituality,higher consciousness and awareness, and easier to control and manipulate through fear. It is far more complex than this because TPTB do not wish us to know the depth of the truth of what is going on so it is hidden deliberately from us, by controlling the media and all information outlets including education. Remember what Michael said in his speech here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q94H...418&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=20about

how our history books lie to us. The information we have is the only the information they allow us to have there is also misinformation deliberately put out to keep us from getting to the truth, it goes much deeper. There are truths and lies muddled into everything, so you have to keep an open mind and open heart.

As many people have said now that Michael also had a message about love and healing the world to deliver at the concerts, his make up artist mentioned on her face book the day after his death, that she knew he had a message for fans about the healing the planet and having a 3 or 4 year window to do it in otherwise it would be too late but wasn't certain of the entire message, although she has deleted it now for some reason,maybe she was advised too. I don't know whether there is a time limit, but it is true if massa mount of people start radiating love forgiveness peace etc, or doing things for others like Michael it does have a knock on positive effect on the world, if enough people do it, it will weaken TPTB agenda by affecting mass consciousness. It is a bit like the 100th monkey syndrome. I do think global tyranny is coming and by the time the masses are aware it will be too late most people are n't even aware they are having their human liberties removed, but I guess it will just run its course and all we can do is try to be an example of shining light as Michael was, and shine light on to the darkness.

The messages are there already in Michaels songs ie They don't care about us, shout, HIStory. also heal the world, we are the world, the earth song etc. and another singer Tupac also sang on the illuminati , in fact his album was called killuminati and he ended up mysteriously dying too.

Michaels passing and what was done to him has made a lot of people aware of what is wrong with the world.


Here is an audio that I found helpful. that says that Michael was going to use the stage as a platform to deliver a message that would have upset TPTB plans and create a ripple. After the concerts MJ was going back to the middle east as we know he spent much time there to try and use his voice to try and have an influence in ending the wars. I don't know whether this is true but MJ was a deep thinking sensitve person who wanted to help the world in which way he could so it seems to me there could be truth in this. I just wonder what the message was exactly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tb0...howthread.php?t=71870&feature=player_embedded
 
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Did you guys know that Murray the Scumbag was part of the Freemasons...which is part of the illumanati?? I've read it on various newspaper articles.

:bugeyed this shit just gets more and more trippy! I am going to do soo much research...
 
Where abouts does DG talk about Michael being injected as a kid? I missed that bit.

He says it on part 2 at about 2.50 that he reckons the condition he has I don't know if he means lupus or vitiligo could have been caused by the injecting of hormones into him as a child as these can cause disruption of the hormone system and therefore autoimmune disorders such as lupus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9hoUymbxq4&feature=related
 
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I read today that the "Michael Jackson" movie which will include the final rehearsals and behind the scenes footage... produced by Sony will have MJ in line for an Oscar next year... I think it is so sad that now he is dead it is okay to be an MJ fan again apparently and the skys the limit.... and lots of people are making alot of money out of his death...and at the front of the queue are AEG with their rip off ticket stubs for cash policy and Sony with their Movie which will lets face it will be a blockbuster....something doesnt sit right with all this...IMO...though I bought tickets I never felt there would be concerts...dont know why just a gut feeling.... then the early date cancellations....then MJ dying ...then suddenly every man and his dog are cashing in...its all about the money folks..dont lose sight of that..
 
He says it on part 2 at about 2.50 that he reckons the condition he has I don't know if he means lupus or vitiligo could have been caused by the injecting of hormones into him as a child as these can cause disruption of the hormone system and therefore autoimmune disorders such as lupus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9hoUymbxq4&feature=related

Thanks. Yeah, the reason i asked - I've been looking at the Dangerous cover.... Everyone's talking about the 'all seeing eye' it's what's beneath that eye that bothers me.
 
Hello

Being new to the forums I was in two minds as to whether to post in one of the more contraversial threads however since it was this one which actually prompted me to take the plunge and sign up to the site here goes.

A previous poster mentioned Anschutz. Just a strong hunch and gut feeling behind why but I think if anything underhand is afoot or has gone on then its in his direction we should look. I did a bit of Googling recently on the man- it added to my unease.

Amongst the many pies he has his fingers in are the newspapers and social networking sites he has been quietly acquiring and building. Check out one comment on this link. That comment led me to Wikipedia and a write up there about the Washington Examiner- thats worth a look- it hints but the hints are enough to give some credence to that original comment on the link.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/28/anschutz-weekly-standard-business-media-examiner.html

Here's another - considering the rumours surrounding MJ and then his trial too why would this devout Christian -extremely anti-gay and a zealous campaigner for ethics and morals want to (on the face of it) help Michael to escape from any alleged financial mire? It doesn't stack up in my opinion. The fact that Anschutz made his fortune from oil (found I believe on his ranch) and rumours Neverland may be rich in oil and minerals too makes me wonder there as well.

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2004/02/20/16709961.php

Here's another excellent article on the Anschutz/AEG/Colony connection amongst other things

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/200...eg-live-attempts-to-muzzle-katherine-jackson/


Then there's the matter of the Sony/ATV catalogue and Martin Bandier its current CEO. Is it just me who wonders about Bandier in that role or anyone else wonders too?

When Michael bought that catalogue originally he was initially outbid.... by Martin Bandier (who then ran a company called The Entertainment Company). It was apparently Branco who skuppered the deal for Bandier by influencing the company fnancing the purchase to withdraw their offer of finance. Hence Michael secured the catalogue for himself in due course. When you lose out and by those means I find it extremely difficult to believe there would not be severe underlying resentments still lingering.

Bandier as CEO now in effect is at the helm of the catalogue he always wanted and would have got but for Michael.

Views anyone?
 
Don't get too caught up in conspiracy theories people, it's not healthy. Just my opinion.
 
Hello

Being new to the forums I was in two minds as to whether to post in one of the more contraversial threads however since it was this one which actually prompted me to take the plunge and sign up to the site here goes.

A previous poster mentioned Anschutz. Just a strong hunch and gut feeling behind why but I think if anything underhand is afoot or has gone on then its in his direction we should look. I did a bit of Googling recently on the man- it added to my unease.

Amongst the many pies he has his fingers in are the newspapers and social networking sites he has been quietly acquiring and building. Check out one comment on this link. That comment led me to Wikipedia and a write up there about the Washington Examiner- thats worth a look- it hints but the hints are enough to give some credence to that original comment on the link.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/28/anschutz-weekly-standard-business-media-examiner.html

Here's another - considering the rumours surrounding MJ and then his trial too why would this devout Christian -extremely anti-gay and a zealous campaigner for ethics and morals want to (on the face of it) help Michael to escape from any alleged financial mire? It doesn't stack up in my opinion. The fact that Anschutz made his fortune from oil (found I believe on his ranch) and rumours Neverland may be rich in oil and minerals too makes me wonder there as well.

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2004/02/20/16709961.php

Here's another excellent article on the Anschutz/AEG/Colony connection amongst other things

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/200...eg-live-attempts-to-muzzle-katherine-jackson/


Then there's the matter of the Sony/ATV catalogue and Martin Bandier its current CEO. Is it just me who wonders about Bandier in that role or anyone else wonders too?

When Michael bought that catalogue originally he was initially outbid.... by Martin Bandier (who then ran a company called The Entertainment Company). It was apparently Branco who skuppered the deal for Bandier by influencing the company fnancing the purchase to withdraw their offer of finance. Hence Michael secured the catalogue for himself in due course. When you lose out and by those means I find it extremely difficult to believe there would not be severe underlying resentments still lingering.

Bandier as CEO now in effect is at the helm of the catalogue he always wanted and would have got but for Michael.

Views anyone?


Thanks for a brilliant post and the links, I sensed it was much deeper than the info that is at hand but felt I'd come to a brick wall, I don't know if we ever will get to the bottom of it. I haven't fully integrated all the info yet. I had a hunch around philip anzchutz as owner of AEG and the staples centre. Interesting he has been quietly building a small media network. The oil at neverland is interesting as PA made his money from oil. that Dr Tohme met with Phillip Answutz and had a secret stash of MJ money and listed himself as president of MJJ productions. AEG trying to muzzle Katherine Jackson! The sony/atv catelogue and Martin Bandier and Branca involvment is fishy too especially now that bandier is CEO.

quote>>>Don't get too caught up in conspiracy theories people, it's not healthy. Just my opinion. >>>quote
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A conspiracy theory - disctionary description -" a belief in a misfortune that is caused by the deliberate action of powerful agencies". It is a conspiracy but not just a theory as there are many facts involved to demonstrate this.

Having read the court transcripts, in the trial it was said in court that there was conspiracy in MJ inner circle

I just want to know what happened to Michael and why and that there will be justice for Michael, even though I sense there will not be.
 
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Both Pamiiee and Moonwalker.fan should be banned immediately and this thread should be closed before hate-mongering and antisemitism is allowed to further upset people.

Those involved should be ashamed.

Mods, get involved please.
 
thankyou j moses....i would like this thread to stay open ..as it's mine and never intended for anti semitism , racism etc..obv..but mods should delete those posts...i am so glad someone else finially noticed too...i have messaged a mod...nothing so far? who /how do i need to make this point known to?
 
That's fair, Michael4eva. No worries.

I havn't contacted any mods, but I am hoping they check the threads and have picked up on it. I think theres a section where you can contact staff. Perhaps look into that. There's also a "report post" function in the bottom left of posts.

It's good somebody else sees whats going on here. A couple of people were seemingly just going along with the "jew" conspiracy...When people are upset, they are easily led (see WW2). But this "Pamiiee" person seems to be the main culprit. On page 4 there are repeated posts, one after another, fueling and furthering the hatred. I don't know what motives this person has, but I hope nobody got sucked in.

My faith and allegiances aside, this hatred shouldn't be allowed in a FAN forum, especially so soon after his death. It's insensitive and disrespectful to the community, as well as Michael's legacy.

This should be a place where fans of all races and faiths can come together and feel comfortable, without stupid people spouting their racist crap to rationalize the death of their supposed idol.

I, for one, don't want to be a part of it in such a state.

Those involved must be dealt with.
 
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If sony did have something to do with MJ death,it's because of money and record sales
 
They probably WANT to make money out of Michael but technically its impossible in the real life... Michael planned it so. Have a nice day...
 
I dont even know what the word illuminati means.. I watched two parts and it just sounds creepy.. The world is a mad place. If I had a rocket I would fly away from this planet. I cant imagine the world becoming a better place now.. I think the future is dark, money is ruining this world.
 
Ok thank you thank you. i was trying to find it yesterday but I couldnt find the live stream.

edit: oh no no I thought this was from aug 8th.

Does anybody know where the actual interivew of DG filling in the blanks from yesterday is. I couldn't find it. The youtube video teaser said to go a website and when I did I couldn't find the live stream.

Anybody please? I really want to hear the whole thing!
 
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I dont even know what the word illuminati means.. I watched two parts and it just sounds creepy.. The world is a mad place. If I had a rocket I would fly away from this planet. I cant imagine the world becoming a better place now.. I think the future is dark, money is ruining this world.

Here is what wikepedia says on illuminati, I don't refer to them as illuminati, but the powers that be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

Don't lose hope, eventually things will turn for the better, it has too. it needs a certain amount of people with higher awareness and consciousness, to unite in love peace forgiveness postive energy, and MJ concerts would have helped this with the amount of people it would have reached with his message. MJ had been highlighting the corruption of the music industry before the child allegations. But his death has also created some awareness too. Many people have now realised more of what he was about.
 
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His estate is working them, and the Jackson family is also working with the estate and AEG.

This is all nonsense. Guess what, unless a music artist is a sole entrepreneur and pays for all their music videos, studio time, distribution, etc... then other people will make money off of your material.

Bottom line, if AEG gets paid, if Sony gets paid, so does the estate and thus the children and charities that Jackson chose.
 
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