New Unreleased MJ Track "Opis None" = Remix of "Destiny"

I worry that they are merely 'positioning' themselves for latching onto PPB, I think that this is the long term goal.


Unfortunately, that's true... Only the thought of it makes the skin crawl. The fascination with children some have (like those having accused Michael of child pae*******) is weird to say the least. Victor Gutierrez was proven to have been connected with NAMBLA (a pedophile and pedarasty advocacy organization in the United States that works to abolish age of consent laws decriminalizing adult sexual contact with minors), and I have a strong feeling (may He forgive me if I'm wrong) that such people like Mann, Schaffel are the same. They look very very snakish, but are very smart (Schafel producing that incredible 'Commemorated' documentary), just like snakes are. It doesn't help when you're a gay porn film producer either. This kind of sick fascination with children and child molestation is increasing and proves anything but concern for them, and many are displaying it, be they media outlets or business partners or so-called friends. And when many throw stones, they're doing so to hide their furry hands.

...
 
Katherine Jackson does not know what her business partners are doing.? Maybe i would be swallowing this if katherine did not have access to lawyers and others who could monitor these unsavory partners.
 
"From the archives of Jackson secret vault, we’d like to present a free authentic remake MJ track for the fans.

This track was NOT released by Mrs. Jackson, this is a dance remake created from unreleased masters in the JacksonSecretVault.com archives. We sincerely apologize to the fans for any confusion."

It says now..
 
So, it was Mrs. Jackson's business partners who released this "Opis" track. She needs to get rid of them--fast!
 
Great. My local radio station just picked up this pile of shite and called it Michael's "new song".
 
" a free authentic remake MJ track for the fans.

This track was NOT released by Mrs. Jackson, this is a dance remake created from unreleased masters in the JacksonSecretVault.com archives. We sincerely apologize to the fans for any confusion."

What a load od crap. It's like oops just a misunderstanding! Yeah right. The first announcement was clear enough. It's no confusion, they knew they were using KJ's name.
If WE know about those ppl, I think the Jacksons should too, right?
 
Great. My local radio station just picked up this pile of shite and called it Michael's "new song".

That's just shocking! The horror. I hope tomorrow all media realises that MJ's new song is Breaking News and not that occult sounding nasty remix.
 
tsw_gnaget;3053626 said:
"From the archives of Jackson secret vault, we’d like to present a free authentic remake MJ track for the fans.

This track was NOT released by Mrs. Jackson, this is a dance remake created from unreleased masters in the JacksonSecretVault.com archives. We sincerely apologize to the fans for any confusion."

It says now..

Moonwalker.Fan;3052826 said:
I insisted that we couldnt blame Katherine for that, but many of fans here... thought opposite....

and... Jackie called the remake/remix OPUS None, not OPIS...


Well, I would apologize if that remix was taken off the website. 24 hours later...it is still there.
 
Finally TMZ has an update about the song being a remake.

Katherine Jackson's Partner Backtracks on 'New' Song

The guy behind the website JacksonSecretVault.com -- the one who called out the Jackson estate for releasing a song he insinuated wasn't "authentic" -- now has a big "authenticity" problem of his own.

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Howard Mann, Katherine Jackson's business partner, now says the song his website released Saturday was not "unreleased" as he advertised, but rather a "remake." Pretty big difference.

Mann told TMZ on Friday his site was releasing the song "Opis None" in part to "overcome the confusion" that arose from the release of the song "Breaking News."

But it turns out Mann is guilty himself of creating "confusion" by touting an unreleased song that was really a remake.

And on top of that, Mann touted that the release of "Opis None" was made with the blessing of Katherine Jackson. Now he has taken all references to Mrs. Jackson out of the advertisement they posted on Friday (see below).

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Bad timing for Mann and Katherine -- She's appearing on "Oprah" Monday to push the book she wrote on MJ as well as other projects ... projects in which she partnered with Mann.

:doh:


Oh God.... :sigh:
 
They got called out! Now they back track! They are looking stupid, they should be embarrA$$ed! But, I doubt it!

They knew what they wee doing! Screw them!

Exactly what happened! Confusion or a mistake is when you are not clear in your first explanation - they were quite clear in their's...and it was clearly a lie. Twice we were lied to yesterday. First about the song and then about who it was from.

I knew it, I knew Katherine wasn't behind this. Many of you fans should apologize...

But she was... :unsure: She may not have personally posted this song on the site, but by being his business partner and authorizing the stuff to be sold on there, she is behind it.

"All the products we sell are created and manufactured by our team. This includes the Jackson family, thus we truly believe you will be pleased with the quality of the products we provide."

And as others have mentioned...she also has the power to remove the song (which she hasn't done).

Where is Janet?! You'd think of all the people objecting to Katherine's dealings with these people it would be her - after having fought them herself for years...

I am terribly afraid of what we will be brought on Oprah tomorrow...
 
Absolutely disgusting that Katherine is associated with these leeches. All they are trying to do is rip off fans. Like others said, these leeches are probably hoping they can get near Michael's children when they are older. They need to go. They need to get the hell away from the family. The Jackson family needs to at least unite for this, get rid of the leeches please.
 
From Geraldine Hughes's Facebook (she wrote Redemption):
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000085298317

<I>From: Howard Mann
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 7:52 PM

I wanted to take this opportunity to sincerely apologize to the Jackson family, his fans and to TMZ for my act of both ignorance and random stupidity this past weekend!

Our goal in releasing&#8221; Opis None&#8221; was simply to satiate fans appetite for unreleased MJ music and to provide a vocal that the world could believe strongly was an authentic MJ vocal, when in reality the song turned out to be solely a remake or remix of an old Jackson track titled &#8220;Destiny&#8221;. The MJ fans pointed this out within 15 seconds of the track going live, however the damage was done.

For the record: At no point in time did Mrs. Jackson give me permission to release the track or frankly did she even hear the track in the first place. That stupidity was ALL ME. We grabbed the track from a series of masters we own and researched the title and found no listed release titled &#8220;Opis None&#8221; in the MJ releases and I felt it sounded like such a weird track for an MJ song, the fans would get a kick out of it. I certainly did not expect fans to become enraged with Miss Jackson about the track as it was given away for free and was not intended as a commercial product.

Mrs. Jackson is a sweet, kind and giving person, much like her son Michael Jackson was known to the world. As his loving mother, she was bar none his biggest fan. Our goal at JacksonSecretVault.com is to pay tribute to the legendary artist and artistic visionary that was and is Michael Jackson. The fans are entitled to a higher level of integrity then I demonstrated this past weekend and for that I am sorry.

When the world sees Mrs. Jackson on Oprah tomorrow, they will see a devastated mother trying her best to both grieve the loss and also to celebrate the life of her iconic son. I hope the fans will not hold my stupidity against her, as she is a truly quality woman who has certainly been through enough!

Humbly,

Howard Mann</I>
 
Edited post: I´ve just seen that amalee posted the statement before me, sorry...

Sometimes I´m really afraid of these people associated with the Jackson family :no:
 
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After reading that "apology" I feel even WORST AND EVEN MORE INSULTED THAN BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who on earth does this leeche think WE are???? Stupids?? Ignorants??? Fools????

:rant:

amalee;3054641 said:
From Geraldine Hughes's Facebook (she wrote Redemption): http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000085298317
Shouldn't this be on MJVault home page?????


amalee;3054641 said:
For the record: At no point in time did Mrs. Jackson give me permission to release the track or frankly did she even hear the track in the first place. That stupidity was ALL ME.... I certainly did not expect fans to become enraged with Miss Jackson about the track as it was given away for free and was not intended as a commercial product.

So the guy is basically admitting he is but a liar, the biggest of all, using AND abusing the good reputation of an old woman, still grieving the lost of this son, while also abusing the three children that very son left alone, the very son someone killed and the very son HE HIMSELF TRY TO ABUSE in life!!!!!!!!!

:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

Seriously, the man knows no shame!!!
Really, NO SHAME!!!!!

:puke:

amalee;3054641 said:
We grabbed the track from a series of masters we own and researched the title and found no listed release titled “Opis None” in the MJ releases and I felt it sounded like such a weird track for an MJ song, the fans would get a kick out of it.
WHAT?????
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

I mean.... WHAT?????

So he pretends he just "grabbed the track" without even listening to it?
WHO WOULD BELIEVE SUCH A STUPID LIE???????
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed
amalee;3054641 said:
Mrs. Jackson is a sweet, kind and giving person, much like her son Michael Jackson was known to the world. As his loving mother, she was bar none his biggest fan.... When the world sees Mrs. Jackson on Oprah tomorrow, they will see a devastated mother trying her best to both grieve the loss and also to celebrate the life of her iconic son.
Here's the confirmation of WHO arranged all this stupid interview with Oprah. Anyone questioning the idea of the whole thing, here's the answer. They are seeing now they make the biggest possible mistake, for their hook for getting attention is the love and respect MJ showed for his mother and they know once fans reject Mrs. Katherine, they will be lost.
It's all about dirty money!!!!!
amalee;3054641 said:
Humbly,

Howard Mann

I died :swoon:
 
After reading that "apology" I feel even WORST AND EVEN MORE INSULTED THAN BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who on earth does this leeche think WE are???? Stupids?? Ignorants??? Fools????

:rant:


Shouldn't this be on MJVault home page?????


So the guy is basically admitting he is but a liar, the biggest of all, using AND abusing the good reputation of an old woman, still grieving the lost of this son, while also abusing the three children that very son left alone, the very son someone killed and the very son HE HIMSELF TRY TO ABUSE in life!!!!!!!!!

:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

Seriously, the man knows no shame!!!
Really, NO SHAME!!!!!

:puke:


WHAT?????
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

I mean.... WHAT?????

So he pretends he just "grabbed the track" without even listening to it?
WHO WOULD BELIEVE SUCH A STUPID LIE???????
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

Here's the confirmation of WHO arranged all this stupid interview with Oprah. Anyone questioning the idea of the whole thing, here's the answer. They are seeing now they make the biggest possible mistake, for their hook for getting attention is the love and respect MJ showed for his mother and they know once fans reject Mrs. Katherine, they will be lost.
It's all about dirty money!!!!!

I died :swoon:


This whole thing sums up my reaction perfectly.

"Shouldn't this be on MJVault home page?????"
Just checked the site and yes, it is up there. Also up is: "This track was NOT released by Mrs. Jackson, this is a dance remake created from unreleased masters in the JacksonSecretVault.com archives. We sincerely apologize to the fans for any confusion."
 
lol

This is the same woman who has posted the "apology" of Mann for the fiasco of "Opis None". this was posted before the "excuses" of Mann. And see her comment:

THE JACKSON TRUTH! When you see a comment from me with "THE JACKSON TRUTH," the information that I am providing is coming directly from inside the Jackson family camp. The information can always be trusted even if I am not at liberty to say who is divulging it. Having said that, please read this apology from Howard ...Mann regarding the release of the Opis None track.


I am not at her FB, so I took a quick look and see what I found:

THE JACKSON TRUTH! I've just receive word that we SHOULD support the Oprah interview of Katherine Jackson & children. Katherine is using Oprah's platform because she wants the world to know exactly what is going on with the estate, etc.


So, friends, it's easy to see who is telling lies and WHO has ties with whom within. And of course Mrs Jackson should look sad during the interview. It's his son who was killed.

I give up. This ties, bonds, links and friends, insiders, relatives.

I just cant imagine what Michael had to deal with daily. May he rest in peace. He really deserve peace. Really :(

I feel so much for him and his children.
 
Here's the confirmation of WHO arranged all this stupid interview with Oprah. Anyone questioning the idea of the whole thing, here's the answer. They are seeing now they make the biggest possible mistake, for their hook for getting attention is the love and respect MJ showed for his mother and they know once fans reject Mrs. Katherine, they will be lost.
It's all about dirty money!!!!!

cannot agree more.
 
amalee;3054641 said:
From Geraldine Hughes's Facebook (she wrote Redemption):
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000085298317

<I>From: Howard Mann
Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 7:52 PM

I wanted to take this opportunity to sincerely apologize to the Jackson family, his fans and to TMZ for my act of both ignorance and random stupidity this past weekend!

Our goal in releasing” Opis None” was simply to satiate fans appetite for unreleased MJ music and to provide a vocal that the world could believe strongly was an authentic MJ vocal, when in reality the song turned out to be solely a remake or remix of an old Jackson track titled “Destiny”. The MJ fans pointed this out within 15 seconds of the track going live, however the damage was done.

For the record: At no point in time did Mrs. Jackson give me permission to release the track or frankly did she even hear the track in the first place. That stupidity was ALL ME. We grabbed the track from a series of masters we own and researched the title and found no listed release titled “Opis None” in the MJ releases and I felt it sounded like such a weird track for an MJ song, the fans would get a kick out of it. I certainly did not expect fans to become enraged with Miss Jackson about the track as it was given away for free and was not intended as a commercial product.

Mrs. Jackson is a sweet, kind and giving person, much like her son Michael Jackson was known to the world. As his loving mother, she was bar none his biggest fan. Our goal at JacksonSecretVault.com is to pay tribute to the legendary artist and artistic visionary that was and is Michael Jackson. The fans are entitled to a higher level of integrity then I demonstrated this past weekend and for that I am sorry.

When the world sees Mrs. Jackson on Oprah tomorrow, they will see a devastated mother trying her best to both grieve the loss and also to celebrate the life of her iconic son. I hope the fans will not hold my stupidity against her, as she is a truly quality woman who has certainly been through enough!

Humbly,

Howard Mann</I>

:eek:


:bugeyed





PCR;3054694 said:
So, friends, it's easy to see who is telling lies and WHO has ties with whom within. And of course Mrs Jackson should look sad during the interview. It's his son who was killed.

I give up. This ties, bonds, links and friends, insiders, relatives.

I just cant imagine what Michael had to deal with daily. May he rest in peace. He really deserve peace. Really :(

I feel so much for him and his children.

Unfortunately, you're right. :(
 
For me it is just so very sad the people that have now become part of her world, or were always there and she remained sheltered from, or chose to detach herself from. Or even more so, the people that take her and use her for their own purposes and she may out of complete innocence "trust" them. I believe her heart is and has always been in the right place. And for those wishing to use her for their own ways, her innocence/trust, and even her faith, is a potential "goldmine".

jmo
 
After reading that "apology" I feel even WORST AND EVEN MORE INSULTED THAN BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who on earth does this leeche think WE are???? Stupids?? Ignorants??? Fools????

:rant:


Shouldn't this be on MJVault home page?????




So the guy is basically admitting he is but a liar, the biggest of all, using AND abusing the good reputation of an old woman, still grieving the lost of this son, while also abusing the three children that very son left alone, the very son someone killed and the very son HE HIMSELF TRY TO ABUSE in life!!!!!!!!!

:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

Seriously, the man knows no shame!!!
Really, NO SHAME!!!!!

:puke:


WHAT?????
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

I mean.... WHAT?????

So he pretends he just "grabbed the track" without even listening to it?
WHO WOULD BELIEVE SUCH A STUPID LIE???????
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed

Here's the confirmation of WHO arranged all this stupid interview with Oprah. Anyone questioning the idea of the whole thing, here's the answer. They are seeing now they make the biggest possible mistake, for their hook for getting attention is the love and respect MJ showed for his mother and they know once fans reject Mrs. Katherine, they will be lost.
It's all about dirty money!!!!!

I died :swoon:

:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed Can we as a group sue him? I am utterly past pissed at this point.
Besides, this ,am tried and stold from Michael before...I can not ever trust him..., EVER!!!!!!!!!:mat::mat: Why is JOE so quiet?
 
Why would Katherine be denying that she was involved in this??? E! news said she was denying this
 
This is all a HUGE embarassment!

I don't know who did what, but Mann is Ms. Katherine's business partner and she now has the freedom to dump his behind for trying to pull a fast one on Michael's fans.

Seems to me like she would have some legal standing to discontinue their partnership because of his fradulent act. (Maybe Ivy can break it down for us.)

If she continues to work with him, then, in my opinion, she isn't upset at what he did and "may" have even been a part of it, until it went bad.

I mean, seriously, where is Ms. Katherine's statement to clarify this situation? A TWEET from Jackie and Taj does not cut it in my opinion.

Poor Michael, his legacy certainly does not deserve this madness!
 
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