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I always loved the photoshoot... Should be a cover!
I always loved the photoshoot... Should be a cover!
AlwaysThere;4319898 said:That photoshoot is probably MJ’s most under appreciated. I’d love to see more from it.
Boredom led to this... Hope we hear SOMETHING soon...
1. Rampage
2. Be Me 4 A Day/Chicago 1945
3. The Pain
4. Get Your Weight Off Of Me
5. Throwin' Your Life Away
6. Pressure
7. Get Around/Man In Black
8. Hot Fun In The Summertime
***Caution*** I'm not 100% if these songs are in a releasable state...
WOW - this would be great - both track-listing and especially cover.
They could make it a 10-track album by adding We've Had Enough and a updated/finalized version of Price of Fame.
Boredom led to this... Hope we hear SOMETHING soon...
1. Rampage
2. Be Me 4 A Day/Chicago 1945
3. The Pain
4. Get Your Weight Off Of Me
5. Throwin' Your Life Away
6. Pressure
7. Get Around/Man In Black
8. Hot Fun In The Summertime
***Caution*** I'm not 100% if these songs are in a releasable state...
Boredom led to this... Hope we hear SOMETHING soon...
1. Rampage
2. Be Me 4 A Day/Chicago 1945
3. The Pain
4. Get Your Weight Off Of Me
5. Throwin' Your Life Away
6. Pressure
7. Get Around/Man In Black
8. Hot Fun In The Summertime
***Caution*** I'm not 100% if these songs are in a releasable state...
mj_frenzy;4320026 said:Some information about songs that have been mentioned above:
‘You Are A Liar’ (also known as ‘You’re A Liar’ was not finished, and it was a song that Michael Jackson wrote, but he did not record (the song was meant for inclusion on the ‘Invincible’ album).
‘Rampage’ (a song musically very similar to ‘2000 Watts’ exists in a finished and releasable state (outtake from the ‘Invincible’ album).
‘Man In Black’ exists in a finished and releasable state.
‘D.I.E.’ (also known as ‘Dance Is Entertainment’ is a song that Michael Jackson wrote but he never entered the studio to record his vocals on it.
‘Pressure’ exists in a finished and releasable state (the song was a serious contender for the ‘Invincible’ album, but it failed to make the final track list of that album).
‘Chicago 1945’ exists in a finished and releasable state, the Estate wanted the song to be included on the ‘Xscape’ album (2014), but American songwriter Steve Porcaro (the man who wrote the song) refused to give his permission for the song’s inclusion on that album.
‘Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me’ exists in a finished and releasable state, and some privileged fans who heard it they described it as musically very similar to the first three songs of the ‘Invincible’ album.
I still think The Weeknd rumours are BS but see his latest few tweets. Looks like he is releasing new music soon so will we probably know if anything comes out of it. https://twitter.com/theweeknd?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
mj_frenzy;4320026 said:Some information about songs that have been mentioned above:
‘You Are A Liar’ (also known as ‘You’re A Liar’) was not finished, and it was a song that Michael Jackson wrote, but he did not record (the song was meant for inclusion on the ‘Invincible’ album).
‘Rampage’ (a song musically very similar to ‘2000 Watts’) exists in a finished and releasable state (outtake from the ‘Invincible’ album).
‘Man In Black’ exists in a finished and releasable state.
‘D.I.E.’ (also known as ‘Dance Is Entertainment’) is a song that Michael Jackson wrote but he never entered the studio to record his vocals on it.
‘Pressure’ exists in a finished and releasable state (the song was a serious contender for the ‘Invincible’ album, but it failed to make the final track list of that album).
‘Chicago 1945’ exists in a finished and releasable state, the Estate wanted the song to be included on the ‘Xscape’ album (2014), but American songwriter Steve Porcaro (the man who wrote the song) refused to give his permission for the song’s inclusion on that album.
‘Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me’ exists in a finished and releasable state, and some privileged fans who heard it they described it as musically very similar to the first three songs of the ‘Invincible’ album.
AlwaysThere;4320037 said:
- “You Are a Liar” was first cited in Michael’s 1993 deposition, and as such couldn’t have been written for Invincible. (Your claim seems to be sourced from the infamously unreliable Wikipedia page.) Nothing is known regarding its completion or the album for which it was originally designated.
I Like the Tracklist and the Cover!
My Tracklist:
1) Get Your Weight Off Of Me
2) Throwin' Your Life Away ft. The Weeknd
3) Pressure
4) Shut Up and Dance or The Pain
5) The Loser (I Was the Loser re-worked)
6) D.I.E (Dance is Entertainment) or Chicago 1945 (Probably with another name)
7) You Are a Liar (I don't know if it was finished, but for sure this song would be amazing!)
8) Rampage
Bonus Track:
A MJ Legacy: Mashup with Snippets of unfinished Musics (You created a Monster, H2O, I'm still the King, Innocent Man)
If I was king of the universe and could force the Estate to do something this year, I'd have them drop a new album this summer (June or July). With the end of the pandemic at least in sight for many of us in the US and Europe, I think an album that has positive vibes but also calling for social change would be great.
Album title: Enough or maybe Pressure
Tracklist:
1. Hot Fun In The Summertime
2. (We've Had) Enough
3. Pressure
4. Lovely Way
5. Throwing Your Life Away (feat. The Weeknd)
6. Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me
7. Never Again [Chicago 1945]
Bonus track: The Loser (feat. Paris Jackson)
Paris wouldn't feature on a track titled 'The Loser' w/her Dad... if any it would be - Lovely Way...
5. Throwing Your Life Away (feat. The Weeknd)
Without The Weeknd please :-/
(Not anything against or for The Weeknd but that song seems so great I hope we get the clean vanilla version/demo...)
What's the deal with Lovely Way? Haven't heard much info about it apart from Mark Ronson who was supposedly working on it yeas ago.
Without The Weeknd please :-/
(Not anything against or for The Weeknd but that song seems so great I hope we get the clean vanilla version/demo...)
AlwaysThere;4320037 said:And before you comb through my post history to find something I said 4-7 years ago that contradicts what I’m saying now — stances change with the presentation of new information. Ten years ago we all thought “Slave to the Rhythm” was recorded in 2003 with Jam and Lewis, and that “I Am a Loser” was from 1999. Things change.
- “You Are a Liar” was first cited in Michael’s 1993 deposition, and as such couldn’t have been written for Invincible. (Your claim seems to be sourced from the infamously unreliable Wikipedia page.) Nothing is known regarding its completion or the album for which it was originally designated.
- “Rampage” was teased by Rodney Jerkins a couple times on Instagram, but interestingly, never once did we hear any extended vocal passages; at best, we’d get a couple microseconds of an unidentifiable vocalist, who sounded nothing like Michael (in my opinion). Its completion is unknown.
- “Man in Black” may or may not exist in a finished state. Bryan Loren played the demo at a fan seminar, but (a) it stands to reason that he would play the full song if it exists, and (b) Loren has a storied history of making things up to fabricate his importance in Michael’s career. I wouldn’t bet that it exists beyond the chorus.
- NOTHING is known about “D.I.E.” beyond the title. We don’t know what the title truly stands for, and we don’t know the state it exists in.
- “Pressure” is, if I recall correctly, a Rodney Jerkins outtake. But, yet again, its completion is unknown.
Just stop making stuff up, mj_frenzy. The vault is already confusing enough as it is, and you’re only worsening the issue.
I have read that m.i.b was in full by 2 other sources. I think damien was one of themmj_frenzy;4320062 said:‘You Are A Liar’ was one of the many songs that Michael Jackson considered recording for his ‘Invincible’ album, as confirmed also by authors Chris Cadman and Craig Halstead.
‘Rampage’ was one of the first finished tracks for the ‘Invincible’ album (it was written, produced and completed in the early recording sessions of the album, i.e., in 1999).
As regards ‘Man In Black’, Adrian Grant confirmed in a fanzine (many years ago) that he actually heard a finished version of the song, he liked it, and he described Michael Jackson’s vocals as amazing.
‘Man In Black’ was one of the few, new songs for the ill-fated ‘Decade’ compilation album.
Later, Michael Jackson was about to include ‘Man In Black’ in his ‘Dangerous’ album (as confirmed by American author Joseph Vogel), but the song was eventually left out from that album.
‘D.I.E.’ (also known as ‘Dance Is Entertainment’) was written in 2006, but the singer did not record vocals on it.
‘Pressure’ (a song that Bryan Loren originally co-wrote with Michael Jackson) was intended for the ‘Dangerous’ album, but the song was shelved.
Then, Michael Jackson handed the ‘Pressure’ song to Rodney Jerkins and his team (LaShawn Daniels, Fred Jerkins III) to update it and to complete it, which they did but the song was eventually left out from the ‘Invincible’ album.
A couple of fans tried getting the song recently, a short snippet followed. A ballad/love song it seems.
Yeah it was me - I've posted about it before, I got the snippet & shared it. The guy is one of the top traders in music and most respected but of course certain MJ fans knew better and it was 'obviously fake'.
With all groupbuys you need a co-ordinator, someone respected, to arrange & collect the funds. No one would do it because of MJs legal team
At least I tried lol
Who said it was fake? It's a shame nothing came to fruition.. Hopefully it will be unveiled officially, whatever the plans are... At least they wouldn't have to get permission for this one like they would with 'Chicago 1945'