Oh dear. In our training in CPR we are taught to administer chest compressions/breaths while calling for help. 10 seconds without CPR is almost failure of the CPR. As a matter of fact several of you on other threads have mentioned that doing it properly etc could have made a difference. Similary if the dr. left Mj to call 911 then forget about it. His job is to call for help while administering the CPR. He can't leave to call or get the AED.
Secondly, he did say he put one hand behind MJ's back and did chest compressions with the other hand. Seeing how thin MJ is I do believe this is quite workable especially if he's got the strength.
Thirdly, people who eventually go in to cardiac arrest, may have a slight pulse which very well may disappear during the administering of CPR. It is not uncommon, which is why you keep checking pulse after giving breaths.
Fourthly, I have watched some of you fans go around on different threads and spread so much speculation that you've caused yourselves and others to be so confused. Some of you took news from TMZ of all places, where conveniently the family member is anonymous, and spread that as facts (the demerol injection).
Then you promptly being to malign the dr by saying why would he give a cardiac patient demerol.
Whoever said MJ was a cardiac patient or got demerol?
It's already so confusing out there can't we be a little bit prudent in our thoughts?
You're right about the speculation. I think the reason some are so quick to refer to MJ as a Cardiac patient may be just a shorthand way of saying that MJ had a Cardiologist in resident with him 24/7 and MJ was known for having an addiction to heart sensitive narcotics and undergoing more physical exertion than he has in over a decade and a half, plus the fact that this doctor was by his bedside 24/7 according to the attorney I believe it was.
I can't get over the fact that he had administered CPR and found NO RESULTS and STILL had not put MJ on the floor by the time the guard called 911. Granted he may have made the correct decision to administer the CPR using his hand behind MJ's back, but after no results you put the patient on the floor and use 2 hands just to make sure of your aim and properly guage the pressure applied. Now I know 2 hands might seem like unnecessarily excessive force for someone MJ's size, but it allows for more control rather than holding him, and pumping him at the same time, afterall, MJ was NOT RESPONDING. One media report I saw says the autopsy revealed needle marks in the heart muscle but that might have been done at the hospitol.
I also can't get over the fact that this doctor was "at large" for so long a time after his OWN patient died. I realize he reportedly had a lot of financial problems, but malpractice wasn't one of them, so what was he so paranoid for? The how could he have remained
unreachable for nearly 2 days? Then upon his emergence making an
APPOINTMENT with the police, then having his attorney come on TV simply refuting rumors of demerol shots over and over, NOT offerring a single additional piece of REALITY to what actually happened - I am always the first to say that things are not usually the way they seem but with everyone looking for answers, at this point, he sure makes it easy to malign him.
But I agree we cannot assume what shot he gave MJ. Speaking of getting the AED, the interview with the attorney did not even indicate any use of any AED. The attorney just said he'd applied one handed CPR.
If you read the article it stated that Dr. Murray once treated MJ's child. That's more than likely how they met. And apparently MJ liked him/trusted him.
So, is Murray a Cardiologist or a Pediatrician? Oh, maybe a CardioPed? That would be surprising.
ur not. that's how mj knew him
o ok