Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

[8701girl]

“She only has money going out, and nothing new coming in, so she doesn't want to be in a position where her family is counting on her like they did Michael.

Its funny aye its ok to hound mj for money but it sooooo not ok for janet to do so

 

[8701girl]

Waiting for Janet to give a statement.

Jackson Family Feud Could Damage Janet Jackson's Career, Experts Say
Posted: 07/27/2012 1:30 pm

With a security video showing Janet Jackson snatching niece Paris Jackson's cell phone from her, allegations that she called Michael’s daughter a "bitch" and slapped her, and now with Prince Michael Jackson's family text messages going public, many wonder if Janet has damaged her career for good.

“The Jackson family war is awful for the Janet Jackson brand," Ronn Torossian, CEO of 5WPR tells me. "Allegations of physical confrontations, cops being called to the house and public letters by Michael Jackson Jr. are amazingly damaging for Janet Jackson’s career and public persona ... The Jackson family has been through so much scandal through the years and this family war, if it progresses, could make headlines worldwide for months. One wonders if Janet and her siblings will be seen as simply trying to take money from Michael’s kids."

But marketing entrepreneur Peter Shankman argues that, at this point, Janet has very little to lose and that her career has already been dead for quite some time. However, not everyone thinks the recent negative publicity will stop Janet from making another comeback.

“If one dead Jackson can come back to life, [Michael’s estate earned over $475 million since his death] then the career of a surviving Jackson -- Janet Jackson -- should never be written off as fatally injured," says marketing consultant, Huffington Post contributor and CEO of Hanft Projects, Adam Hanft.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/jackson-family-feud_n_1710754.html

Janet's career has been long gone since the whole "waldrobe malfunction" at the superbowl a few years ago and imo it hasnt come to life at since then. The recent events that janet has gotten herself into have damaged her career even more imo

 

[prettygirlmj]

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After what Janet pulled these pass few days, I hope her bratty siblings suck her dry. Karma's a bitch.

 

[prettygirlmj]

Just found this. Don't know if posted already.

The 15-year-old stepped forward on Twitter with the claim that aunt Janet Jackson blocked his access to the beloved family matriarch. Meanwhile, Debbie Rowe, mom of Prince and Paris, stands by 'in case the kids need her'

The Jackson family drama rages on as the King of Pop’s mother finally returned home, his teen son blasted Janet Jackson online and ex-wife Debbie Rowe waited in the wings in the event that her kids need her, sources told the Daily News.

Beloved matriarch Katherine Jackson drove 500 miles through darkness for a reunion with her grandkids at their Calabasas, Calif., home around 2:30 a.m. Thursday, sources said, marking the end of a nine-day stint at an Arizona spa that she called a “vacation,” but others dubbed a kidnapping.

Michael Jackson’s oldest son Prince welcomed her with open arms — then quickly jumped on Twitter to break his silence in the family’s weeklong civil war, echoing his sister’s complaints that a sinister conspiracy has kept the late singer’s kids from their guardian and grandma.

Despite his reunion with Katherine, Prince posted evidence that his aunt Janet Jackson — who is part of a group of five disinherited Jackon siblings saying the singer’s will is a fake — manuevered to keep Prince, 15, Paris, 14, and Blanket, 10, from Katherine.

The evidence came in a screenshot showing this text exchange between Prince and several Jackson relatives on Monday:
“This is enough so I am texting you for the simple fact that WE DEMAND TO SPEAK TO MY GRANDMA NOW!!!” Prince wrote.
“Don’t let them pls,” reads the reply attributed to Janet.

The text came hours after Janet, Jermaine and Randy Jackson reportedly “stormed” the kids’ rented estate in a caught-on-tape confrontation.

Prince Jackson posted a text conversation with family members on Twitter. (Twitter) “As long as I can remember my dad had repeatedly warned me of certain people and their ways,” Prince said in a statement accompanying the image of the text exchange.

"Although I am happy my grandma was returned, after speaking with her I realized how misguided and how badly she was lied to. I'm really angry and hurt," he said. "This group text message I had started was replied to, but they didn’t know that I could see the responses. For this whole time, they denied us contact to our grandmother. If you continue with your lies I will continue with the truth.”

The incendiary posts were deleted from Prince's Twitter feed a few hours later, but restored by mid-afternoon with Paris tweeting that an unidentified hacker took them down without permission.

Janet, 46, did not immediately respond to Prince’s accusations or reports that she helped whisk Katherine to Arizona’s Miraval spa, which Randy and Jermaine defended as a medical necessity.

Authorities briefly investigated it as a missing person case.


Rebbie Jackson (l.) and Janet Jackson appeared alongside their mother during an on-camera sit-down on ABC's 'Nightline.' (Stephen Lovekin/Getty Images)

It also caught the attention of Debbie Rowe, the biological mother of the gloved one’s two eldest.
Rowe was at a horse show in northern California when she heard that Katherine was missing, and she made a beeline for a friend’s house in Calabasas “in case the kids needed her,” a source close to Rowe told The News.

The source said Rowe has visited with the kids "on more than one occasion" since Michael died in 2009 and wholeheartedly supports Katherine as their guardian — so long as problematic patriarch Joe Jackson, who Michael accused of physical abuse, is kept at a distance.

“This circus is very disconcerting to Debbie. She’s the children’s mother, and she’s concerned about their welfare,” the source said. “As long as Katherine regains guardianship, Debbie won’t have a problem. But if Katherine passes away or is found incompetent, she’ll make her concerns known.”

"But Debbie won't challenge Katherine,” the source added.

Katherine's lawyer Perry Sanders Jr. said he expected to meet with the 82-year-old Thursday and quickly file paperwork to get custody handed back from her 34-year-old grandson TJ Jackson, the son of Tito Jackson.

In an on-camera statement to ABC's "Nightline," Katherine said she was "devastated" by the guardianship shake-up and felt undermined by a "bunch of lies."

"There are rumors going around about me that I have been kidnapped," she said. "I am here today to let everybody to know that I am good and fine."

Speaking with Janet, Jermaine and Rebbie by her side, Katherine claimed she willingly gave up her phone to get some rest.
A spokeswoman for Miraval said the spa has wireless Internet throughout the property and phones in every guest room.

Katherine’s alleged disappearance grabbed headlines because it coincided with a sharply worded letter by Janet, Jermaine, Randy and Rebbie claiming fraud on the part of the executors of Michael’s estate.
The disinherited group is seeking new executors for the $1 billion estate.

ndillon@nydailynews.com

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...erine-jackson-article-1.1122392#ixzz21t26pD37

Glad to hear about Debbie

 

[Rhilo]

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I'm not too happy with this new arrangement, because it seems Katherine is just a figurehead - doesn't want any responsibility for the care of the kids, but want to control their allowance. A selfish move, probably influenced by her very children that orchestrated this mess.

I think there's a lot more we don't know, that the kids will tell the Judge's investigator. Events that have occured in the past in the family that have affected them. I hope something good comes out of it for the kids and their safety.

 

[prettygirlmj]

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Here's another report. You can see a video clip of Tanay Jackson talk about how she doesn't think Kate should get guardianship again - that TJ should get full custody. At the same time, she's promoting her new album and saying Katherine was never kidnapped that it was thrown out of proportion. Scroll down to see video clip:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...are-guardianship-tj-jackson-article-1.1123210

The article also goes on about Randy saying Branca is trying to his Kate ect.

 

[etoile 37]

7) It is my fear and belief, that they are trying to take my mother’s life.

Since everything Randy accused John Branca of doing was actually things HE did, does this mean Randy is trying to kill Katherine?

 

[Ashtanga]

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I think there's a lot more we don't know, that the kids will tell the Judge's investigator.

I'm absolutely sure of it! :fear:

Well, I like TJ 'cause he likes Sade (I obviously don't require much. hahaha).





~ :fear: ~

:fear:

 

[qbee]

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Jimmy Kimmel - This is hillareous must see video of Kats statement at the end :lmao:
http://youtu.be/AyN-mW9rGF0

 

[jrsfan]

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X17 EXCLUSIVE - Katherine Jackson's Attorney Denied Access Into Home By Nephew TJ, Family Worried For Her Safety

Posted on Thu Jul 26, 2012 05:35 PM PDT

Perry Sanders Jr. is ready to have Katherine Jackson sign paperwork to be reinstated as guardian of Michael's three children ... Paris, Prince and Blanket, however we've learned exclusively that TJ Jackson has instructed security to not allow him into Katherine's Calababas home.
Our Jackson family source tells X17online exclusively:
"TJ won't allow Perry to do his job and won't allow his grandmother to speak to any of her children. Trent and the security team, who Katherine fired already, are refusing to leave the premises. They also won't answer the phone at the house. Family members are worried sick about Katherine's safety. Once again, they are using trickery. "
Just yesterday, Tito Jackson's 34-year-old son was granted temporary guardianship. However, as X17 first reported, Katherine's attorney Perry Sanders Jr. is ready to file paperwork "asap."
We told you first that Katherine fired Trent and the entire security team before leaving her vacation spot in Arizona to come home. Our family source, who heard the phone conversation, says Katherine directly told Trent, "You better be gone by the time I return home." Trent replied with the following: "We don't work for you, we work for the estate. We're not leaving."
The Jacksons tell us they believe family advisor John Branca was behind the confrontation on Monday at the Jackson estate between Janet, Randy, Jermaine, Paris, Prince, Trent and the security team.
Family members add that Branca "is trying to paint a picture that under Katherine's supervision, the kids aren't being cared for." They also believe TJ is being coached by Branca.

Read more at http://www.x17online.com/celebritie...rity_tj_nephew_072612.php#G8I7uWWSD6vGFFMR.99

Personally I find it extremely disturbing that if true, Katherine fired Trent & he replied that he worked for the estate!!! He is supposed to be her assistant & she should have in place whoever she wants. They should only be working for her. That is totally unacceptable. This makes me very worried for Katherine & the kids. I wonder if she ever realized this before now.

 

[ivy]

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Jimmy Kimmel - This is hillareous must see video of Kats statement at the end :lmao:
http://youtu.be/AyN-mW9rGF0

someone made a gif of it

 

[Elegantly Wasted]

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OMFG That is the funniest thing I have ever seen !!!!!

 

[Petrarose]

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I don't know what kind of person TJ is and I don't understand why he agree to let Katherine manage the kids' allowance. He knows part of that money is going to end in the J bros. pockets.

Katherine's reasons to agree to the dual guardianship makes me believe that she's charging for being a grand-mother. She just wants to be a grand-mother but the money has to come to her. She doesn't want to deal with the house help. but usually people who have a number of household help have an assistant who's job is to make sure everything runs smoothly.

I'm not saying TJ shouldn't be the guardian, What i'm trying to understand is why Katherine says she doesn't want to deal with certain things because she's tired but has the stamina to deal with the money.

I don't trust the Jackson, even the ones who kept quite during this time. To me they seem like the good cop/bad cop. I hope the judge knows that grandma sign the kids into a contract with a person who owns a porn web-site.

Yes. I feel that once Katherine arrived at home and met with TJ face to face, he did not have the nerve to say look grandma how about being a grandma since you are getting tired and let me carry the responsibility for you. He knows very well what the letter was about and what grandma does with the money. If he cannot be strong with Katherine, how is he going to be strong with the signers? It seems Trent is stronger, since he fought back with Randy and helped kick him out.

I expected the kids to want Katherine back, because they love her, and frankly I do not think the kids even considered letting grandma be grandma and remain in the home with them. Also, since grandma's lawyers was there, in no way would he counsel grandma to be simply grandma, which seems to be the best role for her now due to all the drama lately.

I am hoping some kind soul takes all the evidence that has occurred lately and e-mail it to the judge, including the letter, Katherine's statement, the various Jermaine and Randy tweets, and Michael Jr. tweet. The judge already has the information about the incidents at the home. The judge needs information about the whole dynamic involving the will breakers and the kids and Katherine.

One good thing I thank Randy for, is that he let us know that the estate sent a letter barring certain members from the home. How great is that!!!!!!! Thank you estate. However, the signers can still exert influence over Katherine, away from the Cal home. Didn't they create this plan and remove Katherine even though they did not go to the home. They used a strange doctor and Katherine's assistant to move her to Arrizona. Although the barring of the signers is good, more has to be done it seems.

 

[HIStory]

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Personally I find it extremely disturbing that if true, Katherine fired Trent & he replied that he worked for the estate!!! He is supposed to be her assistant & she should have in place whoever she wants. They should only be working for her. That is totally unacceptable. This makes me very worried for Katherine & the kids.
I wonder if she ever realized this before now.

That is all according to Randy (obviously he is X17's source). He has been caught lying many, many times all through this, so I wouldn't trust him at all.

 

[Rhilo]

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I may have missed this, but is Trent and the secuirty team still employed at the house or have they been replaced?

 

[Petrarose]

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That is all according to Randy (obviously he is X17's source). He has been caught lying many, many times all through this, so I wouldn't trust him at all.

True. Tent was hired by Michael to help Kathrine, by driving her, etc. Maybe once Michael died the estate picked up the tab for his paycheck, and maybe that is what Trent meant by saying he worked for the estate. I do not see anything alarming here. Katherine has a big allowance she can use to hire another assistant if she wants too. Simple because the estate pays the bills, it does not mean that Trent does not have Katherine's interest at heart. He has been with her for years now. Right now she has 2 lawyers, not including the ones she is using for the AEG case, a personal aid who no one in the house likes, and Trent. She is doing fine.

 

[qbee]

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Actually Trent is the personal aid and the person Randy attcked in the letter to the Estate. Randy from his XL 17 account that said no one in the house liked him and accused him of elder abuse of kat. So if this claim was true why did they remove Kat from the home and leave children behind in the home with this abuse of kat. it doesn't make sense. It was after this question came forward they went to try and remove the kids .. The kids didnt trust or want to go with randy and janet. I gues they perferred to stay with the so called abuser instead. which IMO debunks that claim by Randy

I dont belive the claims that estate is barring family from the home .. that would be over stepping thier boundries
Same crap as when it was stated the Estate was filing for guardianship .. they are keeping thier distance - I think TJ and Kat wil make those decisions. Other wise it could be considered a conflict of interest for the Estate. all they do is support and make sure those guarduans getwhatthey need to run the house and care for the children. They cant tell Kat who and who is not allowed in her home. Tha'ts just tabloid Ish IMO

 

[Petrarose]

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^^Katherine also has a another aide. It is a female who no one in the house likes. I think her name is Smith, she helped in the plan of removing Katherine from the home.

Waw no X17 tonight. Randy must be slipping.

 

[prettygirlmj]

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The Jackson are very nervous right now because if they come up with more BS lies, they know Prince will say something in his twitter. Remember Prince's brilliant quote at the end of his statement. Keep lying he'll keep telling the truth. This is why everyone is oh so quite right now.

 

[Rhilo]

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^Maybe they did an intervention, and he's now in a pschiatric award?

 

[Victory22]

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The Jackson are very nervous right now because if they come up with more BS lies, they know Prince will say something in his twitter. Remember Prince's brilliant quote at the end of his statement. Keep lying he'll keep telling the truth. This is why everyone is oh so quite right now.

Yeah! Prince Michael shut them down cold. We've hardly heard a peep out of them (accept Randell) since Prince informed them he has evidence. I love those kids!!!!

 

[Petrarose]

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^Maybe they did an intervention, and he's now in a pschiatric award?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Randy really needs help though. His hate for this man is alarming. Part of it is probably due to the fact that he asked the estate for money to pay his child support. According to that "family source" from one of the articles here, the estate gave Katherine 80,000 to give to Jermaine to pay his child support. Now I remember they had decided to give Alejandro the coop to live and 80,000 so she would leave Encinio. All the time that money came from the estate and we did not know. I, like a fool thought it was money coming from the family. I hope the estate does not do that again. They helped Jermaine and he still signed that letter. They should ask Katherine for that money back.

 

[Vici]

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I may have missed this, but is Trent and the secuirty team still employed at the house or have they been replaced?

An article by RadarOnline from yesterday or the day before said security have NOT been replaced. No words on Trent though but I think he is still there, otherwise we would have heard it by now.

Personally I find it extremely disturbing that if true, Katherine fired Trent & he replied that he worked for the estate!!! He is supposed to be her assistant & she should have in place whoever she wants. They should only be working for her. That is totally unacceptable

Trent works for Kat but he IS employed by the Estate. Im sure if Katherine went to the Estate and told them that she doesnt want him around anymore Im sure the Estate will listen and fire him. But she has no authority to fire him by herself. Im glad both he and the security team refused to leave the kids when Janets security team showed up in the middle of the night.

^^Katherine also has a another aide. It is a female who no one in the house likes. I think her name is Smith, she helped in the plan of removing Katherine from the

Her name is Janice Smith and I read she stays at Hayvenhurst.

 

[soulmum]

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Randy and co are probably regrouping and waiting to fire the next salvo. Hopefully the next lot of nonsense will be shot down just as quickly.

 

[MIST]

At least it´s nice to see that the children stick together

 

[Elegantly Wasted]

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I have no doubt at all that there is ALOT more of that group message that we haven't seen yet, and all involved, Rebbie, Janet and Austin know it and are shitting themselves.

Has anyone heard any reports from the concert tonight? I heard the kids are there..I saw the video of Jackie, Tito and Marlon arriving at the airport, and Jermaine separately. Jermaine commented that he knew nothing about the guardianship (LOL), Tito did not look happy, Marlon just said Mother is fine and Jackie wasn't saying a word until the guy said he was the nice brother and he laughed and said their mother is doing well.

I'd love to be at that show tonight just to see how the other 3 pretend to be at unity with their idiot brother.

 

[Petrarose]

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^^Well they had a meeting with Katherine for 3 hours after she returned, so definitely plans were made and Katherine was told what to do and say. Let's hope they will be no more letters, but I see negative statements about the children will be the new tactic by Randy, if he is not in a psych ward soon. It seems Janet will stay quiet until she thinks everyone has forgotten about the incidents.

What I find ridiculous is that these articles keep saying that Janet does not need the money and part of their reason is that she has a billionaire boyfriend. What does that have to do with it? His income is not hers. It does not mean he gives her billions a year or even millions. They are not married, so it is not as though if she divorces she gets a large sum. That relationship could finish anytime and she will still have to depend on her income.

The scary thing is that the family was around the kids after Michael died with Janet consoling Paris at the memorial, and at that time the seeds of greed and jealousy against the kids were growing. This plan was in the making for 3 years and began after Michael died. Both a "family source" and Michael Jr stated this. It makes you shiver.

Elegantly I guess the show must go on. No Randy I see, and they drag the kids along to help show that everything is OK. If it was not for Michael Jr message we would not know that Austin was involved.

 

[Elegantly Wasted]

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This plan was in the making for 3 years and began after Michael died. Both a "family source" and Michael Jr stated this. It makes you shiver.

it certainly does. It makes you wonder how long the kids have known that this was coming also, they're very bright kids, it's just heartbreaking.

As for Janet and her money.. I went and saw her in November last year, and her ticket prices were ridiculous, I can't believe I paid it (but I figure it's the only time I'd ever see a Jackson in my entire life) my ticket was $450 for third row. And then you could get diamond tickets and VIP tickets..and the prices were out of this world. She should have made a fuck load of money for that tour...and the prices tell you that she still thinks she's all that..even though her concerts were only held in tiny theatres.
And she probably only went on tour cuz she's running out of money.

Someone should have taught the Jackson's how to handle and budget money when they had it rolling in. Not one of them should be broke!

 

[Rhilo]

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Michael's kids attended the concert? Were they forced to go to make it seems things are back to normal?

 

[Elegantly Wasted]

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Not sure! Katherine hasn't attended any concerts yet I don't think and I think there's only 2 to go? Probably why they're there! Kids probably went with her cuz they were scared that if she went alone she wouldn't come back!