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iboz75

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This was a question that was posed on Facebook recently that had me really thinking (I don't know who asked it, so if you're reading this, sorry) But I had to ask. Do you think the rumors about Michael deliberately sabotaging the careers of his brothers are true? I know its says so in the J. Randy Tarrorborelli's book.
 
of course not. if Jermaine was not including MJ in his ventures, this question would never come up. Jermaine and the other brothers have talent. MJ simply not working with them doesn't sabotage them. whoever posed that question is being rediculous, and envious of MJ.
 
It was in J Randy tarroborelli's book. It also said that he paid radio stations notto play his brothers' songs. That jst sounds like complete rubbish to me.
 
I don't wanna be ruthless but I feel the other brothers never had a career, and when Michael went solo it was a wrap for them.
I don't think like Michael woke up a morning and went like "Oh how am I gonna piss off my brothers today, well I end their careers by going solo."

I don't wanna develop this too much and make a long discussion and piss people off here by bringing too much negativity so I'm gonna leave it with saying that Michael was special since he was a little kid.
 
iboz75 said:
It was in J Randy tarroborelli's book. It also said that he paid radio stations notto play his brothers' songs. That jst sounds like complete rubbish to me.
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that is totally rediculous. like i said in a thread in the MJ gen. dissc. board, people like Tarroborelli have been out to destroy MJ from the very beginning of his career. when someone is special, people get jealous...in a very deadly way.
 
Nah he didn't. If the brothers wanted to, they could've worked on building their careers, problem is they had been in a group for so long and didn't know how to work WITHOUT Michael so they just decided to call it a day. That's the way I look at it. Jermaine tried but we know what happened with that. I would think he's the only other brother who could still have a career but troubles within the family and his own attempts to resuscitate the Jackson family group may have hindered it forever.
 
troubleman84 said:
Nah he didn't. If the brothers wanted to, they could've worked on building their careers, problem is they had been in a group for so long and didn't know how to work WITHOUT Michael so they just decided to call it a day. That's the way I look at it. Jermaine tried but we know what happened with that. I would think he's the only other brother who could still have a career but troubles within the family and his own attempts to resuscitate the Jackson family group may have hindered it forever.
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Radio wouldn't play any of their music if Michael wasn't included other than Jermaine (and he had a hard time). Jermaine went solo before Mike, but I don't think Jermaine had the right management. And he's more a crooner & musician, and not flashy like Mike or Janet. Unfortunately, folks expect a Jackson to dance. Also Jermaine decided to remain with Motown, who didn't do much with anybody that wasn't Stevie Wonder or maybe Lionel Richie. This was one of the reasons the other brothers (and a lot of other Motown acts) left in the 1st place. People didn't give the brothers a chance. When Victory came out, people complained there was too many songs by the brothers and not enough with Mike leads. 2300 Jackson Street was ignored. Randy had a band called "Randy & The Gypsies" which didn't get anywhere.
 
He never sabatoged their careers, he just stopped carrying the team.

It was great while it lasted, but he wanted to move on. The brothers had a hard time breaking into the mainstream solo, but the guys could have probably succeded on a smaller scale had they really wanted to. There always was and always will be a market for non-platinum selling bands and artists. I think they chose to pursue other avenues.
 
^^ That's what I always thought. The only one who was really seriously putting his effort (not saying the others were lazy because they worked just as hard) was Michael and he made it work (it didn't hurt that he was the star attraction). Sometimes that's what happens. Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson struggled with solo careers after they left the Supremes but because Diana Ross was the original group's star attraction, she was able to make her mark on her own. Same with Beyonce and Destiny's Child. Only LeToya Luckett seemed to have some success with her first album. But I'm sure Mike's situation was VERY different from the girl groups. Main difference was the Jacksons were all family so if one succeeded, it was a success for the Jackson family rather just for one individual. That's why they rave about how well Michael and Janet did with their releases.
 
I'm sure that Michael would never do that to his own brothers. But I will say that the brothers should've planned for the future of their musical careers. They should've seen the writing on the wall. Michael's solo career just didn't happen overnight. And he was always the standout of the group. But I do believe that the Jackson brothers want to do some sort of reunion tour and Michael is the one that doesn't want to. Some people may see that as some sort of sabatogging.
 
I don't think Michael would have that type of vindictiveness in his heart. I've heard that he was a shrewd businessman, but that would be really harsh.
 
I look at it like this:
Michael worked hard from a young age up until Invincible, so he didn't date as much, waited till he was in his 40s to get married and have kids. He toured like crazy for decades, now that he has turned 50 and has 3 children he chooses to slow down (50 shows is slow for MJ lol).. His brothers did kinda the opposite, they dated, got married and had kids young, so after the Victory Tour they all slowed down "semi" retired, while MJ kept going. Now Jermaine keeps promising a damn Jackson reunion and MJ is like "NOPE NOT GONNA HAPPEN, I AM SEMI-RETIRED"...
 
Michael never sabatoged the careers of his brothers. Though Michael was the first brother to release a solo album with Got To Be There in 1971, Jermaine was actually the first Jackson brother to have a bonafied solo career when he left the Jackson 5 in 1976 when Michael was still a teenager and didn't have the power he would have from the 1980's onwards.

Jermaine's was hoping to be a Marvin Gaye type of artists, and he had a secuirity most artist don't have ie he was the son in law of the president and owner his label Motown, Berry Gordy. Jermaine may or may not have got the promotion he wanted, but his career never really took off and he had a couple of minor his in the charts. I know he felt that Michael could have clout to have had his 1984 duet with Michael, Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin (Too Good To Be True) to have been released as a single. As Jermaine said that was his only ever shot at having a No.1 single. I think he may have carried a grudge against Michael for this until the 1993. Now he's very protective like he used to be.

Michael and Jermaine are really the only Jackson brother to really have a solo career. As far as I'm aware Jackie only ever released one album, and that was with Motown in the early 1970's. Marlon (I think) only released on solo album being Baby Tonight in the late 1980's. And Randy also (I think) only ever released one album, and I think maybe the same with Tito (not sure if he has ever made an album).

Apart from Jermaine, I don't think Michael's brother wanted solo success as much as people would like to think, I don't see that drive in them as LaToya has released more solo music then them, and she didn't have the credibilty being in The Jacksons/ Jackson 5 as part of her career.. My view his Jackie, Tito, Marlon and Randy preference is being in The Jacksons/ Jackson 5. Michael would have been very happy if his brothers had solo success. What I always wonder is why Jackie and Randy never went on to be producers and songwriters for other artists, because those two are amazing talents in the studio. Your Ways, from the Triumph album which Jackie wrote/ composed is one of my all time favorite Jacksons songs. An amazing song !
 
Jackie had a solo album and a song called "Don't Rush It", I think... it's a hot track, I love it. He's definitely talented.
 
Jermaine is the only brother that has done well. He has the longest career apart from Michael.
 
jermaine was a better singer than mj. hell, mj sang a lot better when he was younger. his range was amazing. jermaine didn't have the stage presence to BE michael jackson.

as for sabotage, u don't need to do things w/in the biz to sabotage someone....and remember word to da badd.....? u never show ur ass like he did and he showed it big time. made him look stup id and mj came out the victor. hmmmmm play wtdb or black or white? i think ima go w/ the latter

tito's amazing on that damn guitar. jackie is great too.....jackie, tito, and jermaine had the potential to be amazing but it was either lack of drive, promotion, or the right timing for them.
 
iboz75 said:
It was in J Randy tarroborelli's book. It also said that he paid radio stations notto play his brothers' songs. That jst sounds like complete rubbish to me.
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programmers didn't play MJ's later music on radio. it didn't hurt MJ at all. so..although there are other outlets today and Jermaine had a couple of hits, people would've gone after Jermaine's music anyway if they wanted it enough. so radio isn't a factor.
 
I don't think Michael would ever sabotage his brothers like that. Look how he is with his sisters - he's worked with each of them, writing songs with both La Toya and Rebbie, and we all know how much he's encouraged Janet over the years, as well as doing 2 duets with her.
 
benscarr said:
Michael never sabatoged the careers of his brothers. Though Michael was the first brother to release a solo album with Got To Be There in 1971, Jermaine was actually the first Jackson brother to have a bonafied solo career when he left the Jackson 5 in 1976 when Michael was still a teenager and didn't have the power he would have from the 1980's onwards.

Jermaine's was hoping to be a Marvin Gaye type of artists, and he had a secuirity most artist don't have ie he was the son in law of the president and owner his label Motown, Berry Gordy. Jermaine may or may not have got the promotion he wanted, but his career never really took off and he had a couple of minor his in the charts. I know he felt that Michael could have clout to have had his 1984 duet with Michael, Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin (Too Good To Be True) to have been released as a single. As Jermaine said that was his only ever shot at having a No.1 single. I think he may have carried a grudge against Michael for this until the 1993. Now he's very protective like he used to be.

Michael and Jermaine are really the only Jackson brother to really have a solo career. As far as I'm aware Jackie only ever released one album, and that was with Motown in the early 1970's. Marlon (I think) only released on solo album being Baby Tonight in the late 1980's. And Randy also (I think) only ever released one album, and I think maybe the same with Tito (not sure if he has ever made an album).

Apart from Jermaine, I don't think Michael's brother wanted solo success as much as people would like to think, I don't see that drive in them as LaToya has released more solo music then them, and she didn't have the credibilty being in The Jacksons/ Jackson 5 as part of her career.. My view his Jackie, Tito, Marlon and Randy preference is being in The Jacksons/ Jackson 5. Michael would have been very happy if his brothers had solo success. What I always wonder is why Jackie and Randy never went on to be producers and songwriters for other artists, because those two are amazing talents in the studio. Your Ways, from the Triumph album which Jackie wrote/ composed is one of my all time favorite Jacksons songs. An amazing song !
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Jackie sang back up vocals on Madonna's "White Heat" on her 'True Blue' album. Tito recorded a instrumental solo album at Motown, which they never bothered to release. Jackie has 2 solo albums, one at Motown and another one in the mid 1980s called Cruzin'. Marlon produced and wrote some of the songs on a Betty Wright album around 1983. He also did some stuff on Janet's "Dream Street" album. Jermaine discovered Switch & DeBarge and did some production with them. Being a Gordy inlaw didn't help Marvin Gaye, so it sure wasn't going to help Jermaine, lol.
 
^^ Marvin was probably like "ha-ha" when Jermaine's affairs with the Gordys went south. He must've found him at "Motown 25" and said "well, well, what did I try to warn you? You can't be me! Don't ever trust a Gordy but you didn't listen." :lol:
 
troubleman84 said:
^^ Marvin was probably like "ha-ha" when Jermaine's affairs with the Gordys went south. He must've found him at "Motown 25" and said "well, well, what did I try to warn you? You can't be me! Don't ever trust a Gordy but you didn't listen." :lol:
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Ain't that the truth. Marvin Gaye was only the brother-n-law to Berry Gordy, but Jermaine was the son-in-law to Gordy. Hazel being the only daughter was the pride and joy of Berry Gordy, but that didn't get Jermaine very far.:no:
 
well neither did cheating on her so im not suprised berry didn't do anything to help jermaine. but he made the right choice. u chose ur new family first....he chose his wife and she wnated him to stay at motown
 
soso deaf said:
well neither did cheating on her so im not suprised berry didn't do anything to help jermaine. but he made the right choice. u chose ur new family first....he chose his wife and she wnated him to stay at motown
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Berry can't talk, it's not like he was Mr. Monogamous, lol. And he had a long time affair with Miss Ross, even when she was married.
 
This is a guy who had two other girlfriends when he was supposedly serious with Diana Ross. He cheated on his first and second wives too.
 
^^^yeah but he ain't gunna see that. he's only gunnna see that he was done wrong. i mean, like someone said, she's his pride and joy
 
^^ Then he should've been focused on salvaging that relationship. He should've known Diana wasn't gonna stand up for that. The Gordys' relationships with certain of the Motown stars (Smokey, Marvin, Diana, the Jacksons) has always struck me as weird.
 
troubleman84 said:
^^ Then he should've been focused on salvaging that relationship. He should've known Diana wasn't gonna stand up for that. The Gordys' relationships with certain of the Motown stars (Smokey, Marvin, Diana, the Jacksons) has always struck me as weird.
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Berry also slept with Chris Clark, Motown's blue-eyed soul singer, in the late 1960s. Interesting that you use the word weird. Flo Ballard said that she thought Berry was the weirdest man she's ever known, lol.
 
^^ Flo was right. Even weirder though he always said Motown was like a big family, Eddie Kendricks of the Temptations commented a year before his death that he only met Berry three times during his 17 years (1961-1978) in the label.
 
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