PANOS THE GREEK
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i dont knoe why but i like this clothes
:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping: Thank yoiu.Wow. Sorry. I know you are dead serious but your description of Michael's dress (albet accurate) had me in stitches. Yes. He was comical but I believe he meant it to be so. He is messin'.
My reply your comment about 'minimal adherance to a 'norm' however is this:
As I tried to say before, conforming to norms does not necessarily work. The 'minimal' keeps getting more and more narrowly restricted if it is allowed to. It then takes the work of one brave soul to open that window up again.
I worked a couple of semesters in an inner city school this last year. If I recall correctly, 80% of the students there came from families at or below the poverty level. Even so almost all of the students managed to wear 'designer' clothes and expensive name brand shoes. The style for the guys was also that godawful 'pants being held up by your penis' style. The couple of kids who did not conform to this were outcastes and mercilously slammed for anytjing they did. One day the teacher for the class, who came to the U.S. from Jamaica, laid into the class about it. She gave about a ten minute speech to them about predjudice. She said that she had never known predjudice until she came here. She was black, I should add, and so was 95% of the class (that is called integrated, sic) but I do not believe she was referring specifically predjudices against blacks. At least in this case she wasn't. She said if they didn't like being treated with predjudice themselves they should not treat others that way because they were 'different' or didn't dress like they did. That what they were doing was no different and they should know what it felt like. I think it was one of the few times she was ever able to reach them.
The reason I told this story is that the kids that were picked on were not dressed in any outlandish way. They dressed as their parents could afford to dress them. One kid was 'overweight' so that added to the reasons he was picked on. These were things that should not have defined how they were treated. I don't know how poor parents managed to buy designer clothes for their kids but I question the tradeoffs they must have made. I know I was not able to dress my kids to the current style and still pay my bills and yes, it made it harder for them in school. Where do we draw the line as to what is the norm. When do we stop paying more attention to clothes than the heart and mind of the person wearing them. And a good chunk of the kids in that school are going to end up in jail. I guarantee it. On any given day 5 out of a class of 30 are sent home or to the office,
To me, Michael's last escapade, in addition to being back to the game of free PR (looks around fearfully for Densers) hopefully for an imminent album release, it takes and sets to whole value system thing on its end. It bravely says' f that' to all of the petty rules of conformity that get people to go unquestioning in lockstep with the status quo. He pushes it to the obvious extreme. It opens up that window for those who may just need to wear something other than designer clothes. It is okay. The clothes is not important.
BTW, I might add, my kids grew up to have incredible strength, character, resilliance, and concern for others... something I cannot say for a large number of their designer clothes wearing conforming classmates. We cannot stop bullies from bullying but we can learn to not give them the importance they seek, thereby freeing us all up to be who and what we truly are.
Back to the car: Jackson retreated to his chaffeur-driven car, which had a cardboard picture of babies and a book on the Renaissance artist Michelangelo
to make it clear from where these photos come from:
THE SUN and Daily Mail, both tabloids. So just for the record, tabloid pics are allowed, tabloid articles not.
If you go to the sites where the pictures are to find, you will find the very interesting text to them.
I think that some members expressed why others get 'upset' over what MJ wears. Some may feel embarassment because the non-fan community and the mainstream media tend to criticize MJ for the way he looks and what he wears and equate it to something being wrong with him. Some members don't like that. Some will say 'Why can't Michael just do and say and look and dress the way like everyone else does because he will be viewed as 'normal' and everyone would 'accept' him more.
A JACKSON JINGLE: While Michael Jackson shopped Friday in Beverly Hills, he told onlookers he wasn't giving his children anything for Christmas -- at their request. Apparently his son Prince Michael came up with the idea to donate toys and clothes to shelters around the country, after seeing reports about people struggling with the tough economy. ... Jackson also said people will be ''really surprised'' by the change in direction in his new album, due out early next year. And upon seeing a girl run out of a store with a ''Thriller'' CD, he said that album and items related to it still are what fans most want autographed.
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/entertainment/1331118,CST-FTR-zp15.article
im sayin junior! woot woot....tp done taught them chillun right!
A JACKSON JINGLE: While Michael Jackson shopped Friday in Beverly Hills, he told onlookers he wasn't giving his children anything for Christmas -- at their request. Apparently his son Prince Michael came up with the idea to donate toys and clothes to shelters around the country, after seeing reports about people struggling with the tough economy. ... Jackson also said people will be ''really surprised'' by the change in direction in his new album, due out early next year. And upon seeing a girl run out of a store with a ''Thriller'' CD, he said that album and items related to it still are what fans most want autographed.
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/entertainment/1331118,CST-FTR-zp15.article
A JACKSON JINGLE: While Michael Jackson shopped Friday in Beverly Hills, he told onlookers he wasn't giving his children anything for Christmas -- at their request. Apparently his son Prince Michael came up with the idea to donate toys and clothes to shelters around the country, after seeing reports about people struggling with the tough economy. ... Jackson also said people will be ''really surprised'' by the change in direction in his new album, due out early next year. And upon seeing a girl run out of a store with a ''Thriller'' CD, he said that album and items related to it still are what fans most want autographed.
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/entertainment/1331118,CST-FTR-zp15.article
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New album, new direction? Early next year??? - Can't be true, we would have got a single before christmas then wouldn't we ???
Hope the album will soon be released!
thats why u know the story is rubbish lolNew album, new direction? Early next year??? - Can't be true, we would have got a single before christmas then wouldn't we ???
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New album, new direction? Early next year??? - Can't be true, we would have got a single before christmas then wouldn't we ???
Hope the album will soon be released!
Early next year means June- to August in the MJ world.
awww bless him, he looks so cool!!! :wub:
Then you should have seen that guy I saw on the tram the other day. Some colorful knitted pants, knitted hat and something completely strange coat and scarf. If Michael would have worn that it would have made some of you guys pack and leave for good, ha ha ha. This is nothing. Get over it.
sorry there ain't no MOD WARNING in post 417?
i wanna read it, cud u please correct the number