Michael - The Official New Album - Out December 14th - General Discussion Thread

[ivy]

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Going back to the media, believe it or not I got an email from The News Of The World wanting to tell me about some video they are going to exclusively reveal this sunday.

Want to know my responce to them.


What a crock of tabloid crap, do not send me your idiotic emails again.

It was not some spamming email, they literately had one of their reporters email me

WTF

way to go.

a little off topic but I believe that they'll show an exclusive video and pictures of Michael with his children - I don't think their video has anything to do with the new album.

 

[lettermj]

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oh sorry i saw the link now..thanks....

 

[honeysucklejasmine]

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Going back to the media, believe it or not I got an email from The News Of The World wanting to tell me about some video they are going to exclusively reveal this sunday.

Want to know my responce to them.


What a crock of tabloid crap, do not send me your idiotic emails again.

It was not some spamming email, they literately had one of their reporters email me

WTF

Brilliant response - bravo Gaz! That rag is beneath contempt.

 

[MattyJam]

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Gaz, The News Of The World thing was nothing bad, was it???

 

[HIStory]

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Michael in Germany, its him in his hotel room leading up to and before him showing the baby over the balcony.

Yeah draggin that shite up again,

Oh and I got a read reciept that they read my repsonce.

So yes, any tabloid, News Of The World Daily Mail The Mirror The Star etc etc a word of warning,

DO NOT EMAIL ME AGAIN.

Your ass is shameful and not wanted in the community of Michael Jackson.

And of course they have to warm up this old shit again one day before the release of the new song. Nothing has changed.

 

[StaceyMJ]

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Wouldn't it be 4:00am for the UK Stacey?

Yes, sounds about right! That's Monday morning isn't it?

 

[Alec]

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Oh, I just read the source articles to the news mjstar posted.
It seems they made it up - Ronson did not say his track is on the new album. It might be.

 

[Jan]

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Yes, sounds about right! That's Monday morning isn't it?

afternoon, i guess... 4 pm GMT.

 

[chacal]

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Yes, sounds about right! That's Monday morning isn't it?

Yes Stacey

 

[bjoernclausen]

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I've highlighted my answer.

edit:
It seems the Ronson produced track is ineed on the album. Great!

Thanks for your answers, you always have a great insight! :clapping:

So it does seem as though we have the start of a track list :yes:

 

[SoCalledChaos]

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Can they not just release the freakin' track-list...

 

[bjoernclausen]

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Oh, I just read the source articles to the news mjstar posted.
It seems they made it up - Ronson did not say his track is on the new album. It might be.

Made it up? That sounds strange! How did you find that out?

 

[Hess]

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Hmmmm... Does that mean that se song is from the 70s? :bugeyed

Little Susie was also written in the 70s, but then remade for HIStory.

So maybe he made the song 70s and then remade it for vince or maybe even 2007-2009.

Could be fresh vocals and fresh sound.

 

[Moonwalker.Fan]

one thing im worried about is...everyones buying from mj...sony or amazon....but do they count towards the album charts??

^^ That should count as a sale, yes.

I plan on downloading from iTunes once it's released and buying a physical copy as well. If not more than that for Christmas gifts

I don't know how this works in other countries, but in the US each sale needs to be done individually in order for it to count. (If you're buying 3, go to 3 different stores or buy at 3 separate times)

This is how the chart rules here in the UK. It might be different where you live, so it's worth checking.

* If you personally buy multiple copies of the same album at the same time (all in one transaction and therefore all on one receipt) they won't count. I'm not sure what the threshold is, so these are just examples (for example It might be ok to buy 2 copies of an album at the same time, BUT PLEASE CHECK)

* If 20 fans go to the same store, form a queue and each buy one album one-by-one, the sales WILL COUNT toward the chart.

* If 20 fans go to the same store and one fan buys all the other fans one album each (i.e. 20 albums) on their own card, the sales WON'T COUNT toward the chart.

* If 20 fans go to the same store and each buy 5 albums on their own cards, none of them WON'T COUNT toward the chart.

* If 20 fans go to 5 different stores, buying one copy in each store, all sales WILL COUNT.

"1.0 Genuine Sales
1.1
All sales information used to compile the Chart must be recorded as a result of a genuine purchase by a genuine consumer.
No record company, distributor, retailer, Artist or other party should act or encourage others to act in any way designed to distort, or which has the effect of distorting the Chart by achieving a higher or lower Chart position for a record than it would otherwise achieve.
Actions which will be considered a breach of these rules include:

a) promoting the sale of any album by supplying a dealer with records by another artist free of charge or upon terms more favourable than would be the case but for that promotion;

b) purchasing albums or causing albums to be purchased other than as a genuine consumer purchase;

c) multiple purchases of albums on behalf of other persons,

d) interference with the operation of sales recording machines or other equipment or computer software used to compile the Charts or collect or collate its information or in any other way being a party to the submission of false or inaccurate data to the Chart compiler;

e) offering money or other benefits to a dealer contingent upon an album entering any of the Charts or attaining a minimum chart position;

f) procuring the sale of an album in conjunction with a non-related or excessive gift, ie which gives the consumer a product, voucher or benefit or anything else which is either unrelated to the album concerned or of a value in excess of the value of the record without that gift (value means normal retail price), where it is not an album and merchandise package as outlined in section 8.0.

g) any other activity intended unfairly to influence Chart positions.
- Where the Official Charts Company has reason to believe that an album is the subject of any of the above types of activity, it will, at its discretion, either remove identifiable irregular sales transactions from the data used to compile the Chart, or exclude the record from the Chart with immediate effect.
- The Official Charts Company´s nominated chart compiler will ensure the accuracy and completeness of any sales information provided to it by a retail outlet in the sample to the extent it is possible to do so using Good Industry Practice. Where the nominated chart compiler has reason to believe that the inclusion of sales from a retail outlet or a number of retail outlets maybe inaccurate, misleading or incomplete and run contrary to the guidelines expected by a skilled and experienced market research firm, then the store(s) in question will be excluded from the sample to avoid potential distortion.
- If an album is excluded from the Chart, the Official Charts Company will inform the record company, distributor, ERA and the BPI in writing on the first working day after the exclusion takes effect. If unusual or irregular sales transactions cause the Official Charts Company to remove data from the Chart sample, the Official Charts Company will inform the Secretariat of the BPI and/or ERA, as appropriate, on the first working day after the data is removed.

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The point is: Buy your copies at different times. Maybe go buy one at Wal-Mart, order another from Amazon, buy another from Best Buy, go into HMV and buy another one, or just come back to one of these stores another day and buy it.

Don't buy multiple albums at the same time because they will be discounted from chart statistics and therefore won't count...
Discounting sales due to bulk buying is a an attempt to prevent chart corruption. If many albums are discounted by the charts company due to bulk buying, that can reduce the chart position of the album, particularly where there is close competition between artists. In an extreme scenario, Artist A could sell way more copies of an album than Artist B, but because of chart rules (sales discounted because of bulk buying), Artist B could have the No.1 album in that country, not Artist A.
Thanks to bobmoo79/MJJC

It really bothers me that the media is buying into this fake nonsense. I'm surprised they can't see through it all...I guess they just like the controversial headlines. It's a shame because after this Oprah episode airs, most people are gunna think it's fake.

Id say Howard Mann and Joe are behind this!

 

[Cinnamon234]

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Any word on when we will get the tracklisting for the album? I'm so hoping that "A Place Without No Name" will be on it! Ever since I heard that little leaked clip of it, I've been dying to hear the whole thing! MJ sounded so goooooooooood on it. I hope it's on the new album.

*Fingers Crossed*

 

[Graf]

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When I go to the store to get my copy, I will get a second for my brother as a Christmas present

 

[jarza]

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Little Susie was also written in the 70s, but then remade for HIStory.

So maybe he made the song 70s and then remade it for vince or maybe even 2007-2009.

Could be fresh vocals and fresh sound.

Really? I didn't even know that. I really hope the new song was remade in the 2000's.

 

[MJJOS]

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Any word on when we will get the tracklisting for the album? I'm so hoping that "A Place Without No Name" will be on it! Ever since I heard that little leaked clip of it, I've been dying to hear the whole thing! MJ sounded so goooooooooood on it. I hope it's on the new album.

*Fingers Crossed*

I literally just came into this topic to butt in and say that my biggest wish is for "A Place With No Name" to be on the album as well, and I find the most recent post to say the same thing! Brilliant!

I wonder are there any Invincible outtakes/demos that could go on the album? I would love that.

 

[This Is It]

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Lead single is Hold My Hand according to Damien.

Much Too Soon and Breaking News also confirmed as album tracks.

 

[*Little Suzie*]

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LETTERMJ:

It's a video where Michael flashes PRINCE JR to the fans , while staying in Paris with Debbie (I think)

http://kingofpop-kids.com/photos/albums/Captures/2003/newsoftheworld/news.jpg

Woow..
By the way.
His name is JACKSON. Not *****!! Ughhh...

 

[swirly]

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Thanks for that clarification Monwalker.Fan - so everybody who is buying more than one copy, buy your copies from different places/different times

 

[MJJOS]

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Lead single is Hold My Hand according to Damien.

Much Too Soon and Breaking News also confirmed as album tracks.

Love Hold My Hand, but I don't think there is enough vocal from Michael in it to be a good single.

I must say I hope that the single, whatever it is, will be a solo song, so I hope that report is wrong personally.

 

[chacal]

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Lead single is Hold My Hand according to Damien.

Much Too Soon and Breaking News also confirmed as album tracks.

I don't recall Damien confirming Hold my Hand will be leas single

Damien just post this a couple of hours ago

Where the heck has the rumor that Hold My Hand will be lead single come from? :S

 

[LMAT]

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There will be lots of people eager to hear this new music. I hope one of them
is Seth Riggs. And I hope that he makes a simple statement. "That's Michael's voice".

After 25+ years as Michael's vocal coach, who better?

 

[This Is It]

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^
Check MaxJax then.

 

[LLCz]

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I don't recall Damien confirming Hold my Hand will be leas single

He confirmed it to be a rumor.

 

[Ashtanga]

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somebody better have kermit ready for when Gaz tells us the time cuz we'll go crazy

:lol:

Kermit is famous here! :wild: Surely... he is super ready for Monday!!! :dance:

Ivy where is Kermit!!!! Where is Ashtanga????
Edit: You're awesome. I see it!!! LOL

I'm here! :shifty: Just watching... >

 

[MattyJam]

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Lead single is Hold My Hand according to Damien.

I refuse to believe it.

Another one of these insiders said on the day the album was announced "the album is called IMMoRTAL."

People are just making stuff up.

If HMH is the lead single I will be gutted.

 

[This Is It]

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He's just confirmed it on MaxJax.

 

[LLCz]

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He's just confirmed it on MaxJax.

Link?