Michael Jackson & The Illuminati (NWO)

[Yeezy]

Whats people opinions on global warming?

 

[Alenyx]

I do not live under rock, you know… .. The information was given to you is the information I read myself and it based on documents from archives. I do not want to go deeper into it because I see you have a very strong negative opinion about the Church as an institution. And it seems to be when you talk about the Church and Christianity everything looks plain and simple to you like black and white.
On another hand when you talk about freemasons and their “perfect freedom values” it looks so much complex so some ppl reading you really can miss a point. But not me. I spent at least 10 years of my life learning about human history. The pure truth is that in Russia where Monarchy didn’t want to make a deal with “new ideas”. Because of that freemasons started the most bloodiest revolution the world ever seen. Thousands of priests were killed and millions of civilians. Then Stalin came to power and killed the top of Illuminati Government including Leon Trotsky. Now in the western interpretation of Russian history, especially Stalin’s’ period they try to make Stalin equal to Hitler which a huge lie and fiction I have ever read in my life.
And as far as I look at author’s names of those books, everything looks clear to me but ppl are ignorant and not educated. I am not saying here that Stalin was an angel, many innocent ppl went to jail because he was cleaning the country from freemasons and their freemason’s supporters but he didn’t change the system back. However what he did, he gave a freedom to Orthodox Church again which was completely destroyed by revolutionists. Because Stalin’s’ was an Orthodox priest himself, his figure looks even more controversial.
No one “historical” book published in the West will give you an idea about what the real this truth is. The information you read is all twisted like it written to put more garbage on this part of Russian history. Stalin gave a lot of pain to illuminati, this is the fact they ignore. I see western “historians” are working very hard writing all this BS about Russian history to make Stalin look equal to Hitler.
I became an everyday’s propaganda in Europe now and looks like Russia has to say sorry to the whole world because 27 millions Russian ppl died in WW2.
But those illuminati and masons who were in American Government made money from the blood giving those credits under high %, they do not need to say sorry to anybody. This is the world we live in. I think Russia just recently finished to pay land lease %, somwhere in 2002. War is a good business right?

Edit:
Today’s Russian Government almost became a part of NWO. I can clearly see it looking at what they do. A few years ago one illuminati rabbi even had a public official speech saying : “we never had that much power in this country like we have now”. They even do not care about public reaction anymore.

Firstly I was not adressing you specifically. I'm only trying to add one shade of grey to the discussion.
And yes, the values that Freemasons promote officially are important to me in my life. However I have no idea if members actually follow their public code, because I'm not a member. I do not like their rituals and structure as I have mentioned before.

I do not know the truth and I don't think that there actually is one truth. I do not know what to believe, because nowadays anybody can just easily spread information to the whole world. They all claim their information is based on documents from archives. Documents can be faked.

 

[Bo G]

Uri has connections with CIA and he is ex paratrooper, the creme de la creme of the military. All these articles show Uri connections with CIA.

Gaiaschild, Geller was a paratrooper for Israel, not the US, so that's not CIA. The connection with the CIA was that a contractor, SRI, used him as a test subject. That would not make him "ex-CIA." Sometimes Geller exaggerates this connection, as he does with most things. Really, he's just an entertainer.

 

[riviera1992]

Just want to say that, for those of you who will take the time to pore through everything you can find about the 13 families of the Illuminati, you'll become a believer and therefore you will look at this crazy world we live in and will totally understand the big picture. I did read and watched a lot of info over the years and I'm a complete believer and nothing surprises me anymore. It's very liberating.
I don't know if those links below have been posted yet. Don't have time to read all pages. Sorry.
It takes a lot of patience to read and view all this info but it will blow your mind.


In regards to MJ being eliminated by the Illuminati as they did with all the Peace Messengers of our world, well I do believe they thought they destroyed him for good with the last trial and media bashing but our Angel was a fighter and got back up on his feet one more time and quietly prepared his return and caught them by surprise at the March announcement. I think that they could've killed him by tainting the propofol vile with undetectable substance if they wanted to, but they're smart enough to know that Michael would be bigger than ever if dead. They'd probably would've tried to silence him some otherway, like threatning his family. Therefore I think it was just gross negligence by an incompetent doctor and eerie coincidence. Maybe God knew what was coming at him from the Illuminati and wanted to spare him the pain and agony. One thing is for sure is, we'll never know the real truth.

(this is the best history video you'll ever see, specially about the entertainment industry)
http://www.sprword.com/videos/ringofpower2/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uERJD72xbzc

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=17451.0

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=55914.0


Remember when you read the following link that all major banks are owned by the Illuminati families all over the world.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_timothy__070913_follow_the_money__28wh.htm
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/life_a_siv_070914_the_cracks_in_the_fa.htm

http://rense.com/general62/list.htm

 

[Arabian Knight]

I strongly disagree with this. A corrupt society is never content and people who are discontent will always storm the barricades in the end.

One thing that really puzzles me is why so many people spend so much time and energy on persuading people of their 'truth'. Sure, many people make money with this selling books and DVDs... it must be quite a rush to get people on your side...

Personally I think it's also escapism. It's easier to put the blame of our world's grievances on occults, aliens and whatnot when it's actually us – you and I – who are the enemies.
It's us who are our planet's foes, but it's also us who are its only friends! It's us who have to make the change. And our target is our own personal lifestyle, not some secret inaccessible order of demons.

Have we really become so deaf, dumb, and blind that we can longer recognize a clear sign?

237 million human beings killed over the past few hundred years (not counting all the small wars and the innocent 9/11 victims). Look around you and you’ll see what I am talking about. I have no hidden agenda to drag people to jump on my bandwagon, I just want them to know. I have said it loud and clear from the beginning: “IT IS YOUR CHOICE”. You are the one who will decide if this is the truth or not. I am asking you to question everything around you, that is not being paranoid, but being careful and ready by considering the facts around us, the eye witnesses, personal experiences, history books (which are worth reading), etc… There are no coincidences. So do your own homework and prove this theory is wrong with more than just an idea. Otherwise if you don’t like it just leave it and ignore it, you are very much free to your own way of thinking but don’t suggest that I have a hidden agenda, because I don’t and that’s why I always advice everyone to research.

 

[Arabian Knight]

... well, I just discovered this topic today. And I just finished reading through all 12 pages and watched most of the video clips posted.

My interest in this topic was drawn due to the fact that I not only worked with a member of the secret society, The Free Masons, he also tried over and over recruit me to his masonry in which followed the NWO path.

First of all, I just want to say that I swear on my love for life, I am not lying about any information I have in regards to this subject matter and is all according to the source and not me. ok?
And I will also say that this topic is actually very serious and can be dangerous if you have the ability to reach people with incredible impact. Otherwise, it's deemed as more conspiracy theorist's blog.

Boy...where do I begin.

Ok, I may have to come in here more than once to explain a few things I learned from this fellah who confided a lot of information in me until he finally gave up and ultimately erased me as a friend, labeled me as "a lost cause" for not wanting to join.

1. The NWO is very real to these people. 2. Yes, its definitely about control.
And they recruit only those who are deemed powerful enough to make changes. Whether you're an actor, musician, politician, comedian, artist, etc. If you have the goods, you're worthy of having dinner with them first. In which then you meet the next member who "tests" you. Followed up by that, you then are introduced by another ranking officer in the group where you're put through another test. The tests are endless. And they do heavy background check on you as well. If you have criminal records or things that are detrimental to their movement, you are not qualified.

Apparently, he believed I was qualified. *shivers*
This person took notice of me through my work with Marvel Comics, Fox's Family Guy and Upperdeck trading cards and the level of passion I had in my speeches in regards to reaching your best potential in life and sharing it with the world to break free from the dome society teaches us to basically live as slaves in. When he first approached me, he asked me if i knew about NWO. I said no. But that I heard some things about it. He was really nice to me at first. Like really nice. Called me brother and everything.

(oh and we both worked for a special elementary after school program which were to impact the lives of children by guiding them to their passions, whether it was music, art, etc, kind of like charity as it was a non profit organization. I worked there for 4 years and finally quit to jump back into my serious goals 2 years ago. He is still to this day, working for the program but has since been promoted to high rank and is no longer in contact with children. When he did have contact with his students, he actually and secretly had the children do seances. Yup...believe it or not. I caught them once when I walked in the class without knocking. He wasn't too happy about that and asked me to please keep it between us.
BTW, he was a rock band teacher for them. Why he was teaching them seance, I have no idea. And I did tell my boss about it. And guess what? He ignored it.)


Anyways, this NWO, Illuminate and Masonry stuff... Not once, did he mention it was about the devil or about evil. (keep in mind, I've done "some" research about masons, nwo, and the illuminate prior to this guy talking to me. But I decided to act completely ignorant about it to see what he had to say.). He really liked me and thought I'd be totally in. I did draw some positive reactions with my responses to him in regards to his belief - at first -.


He explained a lot about why they kept things secret and why they controlled the world media and in many cases the government/president of the United States. He said the masons are all over the world and were not bad people like many speculate.

His reasons were noble. Or at least sounded that way. For the good of the world he said. He said that a lot of people of the world aren't mentally prepared to handle certain truths yet and would be catastrophic if they (the rest of us) knew of the things he did.

He even tried to make me believe that we already had visitors. You know? Aliens.
And he went on and on about it. Let me just say, I am skeptic about many things we people say and do. Because frankly, its in our nature to make up stories for whatever reason. But I have to admit...there were things he said that had me wondering for years.

What I'm sharing here, I'm not doing it to draw attention to myself or anything and I am not saying what he said was true. I'm just sharing that what he said for information purposes.
And let me tell you.. the things he mentioned, goes even FUUUURTHER than what's discussed here. And religion does play a factor here but not exactly in the ways you'd think.
They're not trying to teach you the devil is the way, he said. They just use everything in the world we created, including religion, to manipulate things, just to keep the brotherhood bloodline alive for the New World Order.

There are people on this planet who are apparently extremely conscious in areas that would paralyze our minds if we even tried to thread on them. That's where it gets kind of scary. Because a lot of us, tend to focus on our clothes, movies, gossip, family drama, friend drama, new phones, internet etc etc, that we of can not even fathom the idea of such things happening in this world right now, this very minute.

Now, this is what he told me.... He said "I want you to join up because the new world order is coming. And by being a part of our masonry, you will be protected. You have a lot of talent and we can help make sure you meet success. It's basically survival of the fittest and we're recruiting the elite and talented." .....

To this day, it still sends chills up my spine. We were in a room where the computers were kept with no one else in it. And I wanted to jump out the window. I could not help but think he was crazy.

Anyways, months passed and i kept telling him I was too busy and mentally stressed to go through with it and to give me time. A couple times, we drove up to his lodge to either drop him off or pick him up.
He eventually and noticeably scratched me off. We even almost got into a heavy argument over "true passion" of life once. Since then, (since I quit my job), I haven't seen or heard from him again.

You know what the strange thing was? He spoke so highly of his beliefs like they were the world heroes. Knights of the round, etc. But yet, he loved the occult and even had pictures on his laptop, of occult elements which did include satan'ish type of stuff and now that i remember it, again I'm being 100% HONEST here (I've absolutely no agenda to bs anyone here), he wore nothing but black, drank nothing but soda and claimed he didn't like water.... lol. He said he hated water and that his body took enough of what was needed from the soda he drank. And I'm serious. He always drank coca cola. ALWAYS.
He dressed very clean, but always in black. (not that the color matters anyways. I like wearing black sometimes too)

He also wore this little pendant thing and cuff link with the compass and the letter G on it.
His car had a sticker too, similar to the Marines stickers.
He told me cops leave him alone when they see it.

Well... there's so much more. I had to share this with you guys, not to say what this guy was telling me was true, but that this whole NWO thing and the free masons and Illuminate stuff, does indeed have it roots set on our world today. And they have quite the agenda, let me tell you.

So.... Personally, due to what I learned from him, which would take up pages of information, I would not rule out that the Illuminati had a hand in destroying Michael Jackson.

BUT!! I would advice all of you to really treat this topic with gentleness. Its very very VERY fragile stuff. You can easily turn this whole thing into something completely stupid and lose all its merits gained through the original conception at hand.

I am a great big thinker now and one of the most valuable things I have learned, was to "try" not to jump into conclusions that would endanger the real message or goal.

From being consciously aware, you can all easily look like crazy conspiracy theorists instead. And you don't want that. So be careful. This stuff is real. And if you sing loud enough... they WILL come.

Thank you for sharing your experience. This must have been hard to accept but it is reality. You did make the best decision to walk away in the right time.

I think most people working in the entertainment industry will be able to see more signs and witness these issues.

 

[Asedora]

And yes, the values that Freemasons promote officially are important to me in my life. .

This fake "freedom" they promote costs millions of human lives all over the world. Ppl die for “freedom” in Middle East every single day. Have you ever thought about those numbers? What kind of freedom they give you personally? Freedom to see pornography magazines and movies with low values? Freedom to pay mortgage to the bank till you die?
They do not promote high values to the society they love to say good things when need it. To say but not to do. And people in general are stupid enough to follow those ideas.


PS. If documents from archives look fake to you, then you always have a choice to go to the book store and buy whatever they want you to buy and read whatever they want you to read. Simple as that.

 

[Arabian Knight]

This fake "freedom" they promote costs millions of human lives all over the world. Ppl die for “freedom” in Middle East every single day. Have you ever thought about those numbers? What kind of freedom they give you personally? Freedom to see pornography magazines and movies with low values? Freedom to pay mortgage to the bank till you die?
They do not promote high values to the society they love to say good things when need it. To say but not to do. And people in general are stupid enough to follow those ideas.


PS. If documents from archives look fake to you, then you always have a choice to go to the book store and buy whatever they want you to buy and read whatever they want you to read. Simple as that.

I agree with you. If someone would dismiss reading history books just because they are all lies then that’s a mistake IMO. Because you are not just reading the book and thinking that this is the absolute truth instead you read it looking for clues and hints which create more interest in reading more books, it is good also to focus on unchanged literature from historical symbols, such as Babylon, Egyptian, Colonial, etc… There are lots of ideas in them. What is documented in ancient Egypt is very rich in information, all you have to do is connect the dots and solve the big puzzle the big picture. They say the Egyptians have archived information about almost all important aspect of their history, except for the way they built the pyramids, I wonder why.

 

[SteveJ]

Did someone try this?

Write: Q33NYC

Then change the fonts to Wingdings…

:bugeyed

 

[Arabian Knight]

I searched in google for Michael Jackson and the Illuminati and came accoss forums talking about their link back in 2008 and they were talking about MJs thing with Tommy Mottola and certain symbols in MJs work.

I've done a little reading on it.. I don't know what I believe.

Edit: Also..look how MJ was portrayed as crazy/weird so nobody would take notice of his messages ?

I don't know if I believe in mediums either... but I thought it was interesting that Bonnie Vent gave a message from Michael saying:

''I use symbols and patterns in my work to let the secrets out.. some people will know exactly what im refering to.. when your in a controlled environment you have to be very careful in what you say n how you say it' ' i use this in a good purpose to warn people”

-- Whether this came from Michael or Bonnie made it up thats a different matter...

Thanks for bringing this up… It confirms to the messages that we clearly see in his songs, videos and interviews.

 

[Asedora]

I agree with you. If someone would dismiss reading history books just because they are all lies then that’s a mistake IMO. Because you are not just reading the book and thinking that this is the absolute truth instead you read it looking for clues and hints which create more interest in reading more books, it is good also to focus on unchanged literature from historical symbols, such as Babylon, Egyptian, Colonial, etc… There are lots of ideas in them. What is documented in ancient Egypt is very rich in information, all you have to do is connect the dots and solve the big puzzle the big picture. They say the Egyptians have archived information about almost all important aspect of their history, except for the way they built the pyramids, I wonder why.

Without a knowledge about an Egyptian ancient civilization it is impossible to understand human history in general. The problem with this is that a true information is not available. This is why I prefer to read translated manuscripts to get some ideas from this source first. As more you learn about Egypt as more in love you will be with this lost civilization. I fact we have very little information about ancient Egypt.
Did you hear about some terrible things happened with Egyptian mummies in last century? They used to bring tones of them to the US and used as a fertilizer. It broke my heart when I saw documentary. I think this kind of act was done on purpose and probably had some sort of ritual background. I hope someday somebody will pay price for that. Maybe it is already happening.
Freemasons use ancient Egyptian symbol “Eye of Horus” as their symbol as we know. The meaning is completely twisted like anything else they do. Two eyes of Horus are basically the Sun and the Moon. For Egyptians the Eye of Horus represented on top of Pyramid was a very powerful symbol of connection with divine. Masons destroyed this symbol completely by cutting the top of pyramid from the bottom. Masonic symbol represents there is NO connection with divine anymore in this world. Clear as that.
And yes we never will be able to know how they did build pyramids and I hope Egyptians were smart enough to keep their secrets far away from everybody in case if their civilization will die.

 

[Gaiaschild]

Gaiaschild, Geller was a paratrooper for Israel, not the US, so that's not CIA. The connection with the CIA was that a contractor, SRI, used him as a test subject. That would not make him "ex-CIA." Sometimes Geller exaggerates this connection, as he does with most things. Really, he's just an entertainer.

I don't think you read all the articles in detail,yes he was used as a subject initially, that was how he had his first contact with CIA. Paratroopers often become assassins. They do kill people you know and really have no concience. I'm not saying he is but I'm just saying be open minded that there is more to him than meets the eye

 

[Gaiaschild]

... well, I just discovered this topic today. And I just finished reading through all 12 pages and watched most of the video clips posted.

My interest in this topic was drawn due to the fact that I not only worked with a member of the secret society, The Free Masons, he also tried over and over recruit me to his masonry in which followed the NWO path.

First of all, I just want to say that I swear on my love for life, I am not lying about any information I have in regards to this subject matter and is all according to the source and not me. ok?
And I will also say that this topic is actually very serious and can be dangerous if you have the ability to reach people with incredible impact. Otherwise, it's deemed as more conspiracy theorist's blog.

Boy...where do I begin.

Ok, I may have to come in here more than once to explain a few things I learned from this fellah who confided a lot of information in me until he finally gave up and ultimately erased me as a friend, labeled me as "a lost cause" for not wanting to join.

1. The NWO is very real to these people. 2. Yes, its definitely about control.
And they recruit only those who are deemed powerful enough to make changes. Whether you're an actor, musician, politician, comedian, artist, etc. If you have the goods, you're worthy of having dinner with them first. In which then you meet the next member who "tests" you. Followed up by that, you then are introduced by another ranking officer in the group where you're put through another test. The tests are endless. And they do heavy background check on you as well. If you have criminal records or things that are detrimental to their movement, you are not qualified.

Apparently, he believed I was qualified. *shivers*
This person took notice of me through my work with Marvel Comics, Fox's Family Guy and Upperdeck trading cards and the level of passion I had in my speeches in regards to reaching your best potential in life and sharing it with the world to break free from the dome society teaches us to basically live as slaves in. When he first approached me, he asked me if i knew about NWO. I said no. But that I heard some things about it. He was really nice to me at first. Like really nice. Called me brother and everything.

(oh and we both worked for a special elementary after school program which were to impact the lives of children by guiding them to their passions, whether it was music, art, etc, kind of like charity as it was a non profit organization. I worked there for 4 years and finally quit to jump back into my serious goals 2 years ago. He is still to this day, working for the program but has since been promoted to high rank and is no longer in contact with children. When he did have contact with his students, he actually and secretly had the children do seances. Yup...believe it or not. I caught them once when I walked in the class without knocking. He wasn't too happy about that and asked me to please keep it between us.
BTW, he was a rock band teacher for them. Why he was teaching them seance, I have no idea. And I did tell my boss about it. And guess what? He ignored it.)


Anyways, this NWO, Illuminate and Masonry stuff... Not once, did he mention it was about the devil or about evil. (keep in mind, I've done "some" research about masons, nwo, and the illuminate prior to this guy talking to me. But I decided to act completely ignorant about it to see what he had to say.). He really liked me and thought I'd be totally in. I did draw some positive reactions with my responses to him in regards to his belief - at first -.


He explained a lot about why they kept things secret and why they controlled the world media and in many cases the government/president of the United States. He said the masons are all over the world and were not bad people like many speculate.

His reasons were noble. Or at least sounded that way. For the good of the world he said. He said that a lot of people of the world aren't mentally prepared to handle certain truths yet and would be catastrophic if they (the rest of us) knew of the things he did.

He even tried to make me believe that we already had visitors. You know? Aliens.
And he went on and on about it. Let me just say, I am skeptic about many things we people say and do. Because frankly, its in our nature to make up stories for whatever reason. But I have to admit...there were things he said that had me wondering for years.

What I'm sharing here, I'm not doing it to draw attention to myself or anything and I am not saying what he said was true. I'm just sharing that what he said for information purposes.
And let me tell you.. the things he mentioned, goes even FUUUURTHER than what's discussed here. And religion does play a factor here but not exactly in the ways you'd think.
They're not trying to teach you the devil is the way, he said. They just use everything in the world we created, including religion, to manipulate things, just to keep the brotherhood bloodline alive for the New World Order.

There are people on this planet who are apparently extremely conscious in areas that would paralyze our minds if we even tried to thread on them. That's where it gets kind of scary. Because a lot of us, tend to focus on our clothes, movies, gossip, family drama, friend drama, new phones, internet etc etc, that we of can not even fathom the idea of such things happening in this world right now, this very minute.

Now, this is what he told me.... He said "I want you to join up because the new world order is coming. And by being a part of our masonry, you will be protected. You have a lot of talent and we can help make sure you meet success. It's basically survival of the fittest and we're recruiting the elite and talented." .....

To this day, it still sends chills up my spine. We were in a room where the computers were kept with no one else in it. And I wanted to jump out the window. I could not help but think he was crazy.

Anyways, months passed and i kept telling him I was too busy and mentally stressed to go through with it and to give me time. A couple times, we drove up to his lodge to either drop him off or pick him up.
He eventually and noticeably scratched me off. We even almost got into a heavy argument over "true passion" of life once. Since then, (since I quit my job), I haven't seen or heard from him again.

You know what the strange thing was? He spoke so highly of his beliefs like they were the world heroes. Knights of the round, etc. But yet, he loved the occult and even had pictures on his laptop, of occult elements which did include satan'ish type of stuff and now that i remember it, again I'm being 100% HONEST here (I've absolutely no agenda to bs anyone here), he wore nothing but black, drank nothing but soda and claimed he didn't like water.... lol. He said he hated water and that his body took enough of what was needed from the soda he drank. And I'm serious. He always drank coca cola. ALWAYS.
He dressed very clean, but always in black. (not that the color matters anyways. I like wearing black sometimes too)

He also wore this little pendant thing and cuff link with the compass and the letter G on it.
His car had a sticker too, similar to the Marines stickers.
He told me cops leave him alone when they see it.

Well... there's so much more. I had to share this with you guys, not to say what this guy was telling me was true, but that this whole NWO thing and the free masons and Illuminate stuff, does indeed have it roots set on our world today. And they have quite the agenda, let me tell you.

So.... Personally, due to what I learned from him, which would take up pages of information, I would not rule out that the Illuminati had a hand in destroying Michael Jackson.

BUT!! I would advice all of you to really treat this topic with gentleness. Its very very VERY fragile stuff. You can easily turn this whole thing into something completely stupid and lose all its merits gained through the original conception at hand.

I am a great big thinker now and one of the most valuable things I have learned, was to "try" not to jump into conclusions that would endanger the real message or goal.

From being consciously aware, you can all easily look like crazy conspiracy theorists instead. And you don't want that. So be careful. This stuff is real. And if you sing loud enough... they WILL come.

Thankyou Nar for posting this information. This is a highly informative thread.

 

[Gaiaschild]

This fake "freedom" they promote costs millions of human lives all over the world. Ppl die for “freedom” in Middle East every single day. Have you ever thought about those numbers? What kind of freedom they give you personally? Freedom to see pornography magazines and movies with low values? Freedom to pay mortgage to the bank till you die?
They do not promote high values to the society they love to say good things when need it. To say but not to do. And people in general are stupid enough to follow those ideas.


PS. If documents from archives look fake to you, then you always have a choice to go to the book store and buy whatever they want you to buy and read whatever they want you to read. Simple as that.

Good post. I agree with you

 

[Arabian Knight]

What seems to be very visible to me is when Eminem released his video "Just Lose It" in 2004. For the ones who haven’t seen the video you will find it on YouTube just search for it but I warn you that this is a very insulting and offensive video to all of us. Why I bring this up, because if you pay attention to Eminem’s lyrics, the hidden lyrics in all of his songs you will come to know what type of person he is. In the same time for people who like to pay attention to symbolism, should pay attention to his name “EminEm” and how the “E” written opposite the other on his album cover. Look for Chaos Eris and Eris symbol. It is clear to me that this guy was recruited by the illuminati as tool to tarnish Michael’s image as part of their huge campaign against him.

 

[Alenyx]

This fake "freedom" they promote costs millions of human lives all over the world. Ppl die for “freedom” in Middle East every single day. Have you ever thought about those numbers? What kind of freedom they give you personally? Freedom to see pornography magazines and movies with low values? Freedom to pay mortgage to the bank till you die?
They do not promote high values to the society they love to say good things when need it. To say but not to do. And people in general are stupid enough to follow those ideas.

PS. If documents from archives look fake to you, then you always have a choice to go to the book store and buy whatever they want you to buy and read whatever they want you to read. Simple as that.

I know the numbers. 'Freedom' cannot be forced upon any country. Especially not by other countries who claim 'freedom' as their trademark. I don't support the things happening in the world you know.... I simply refuse to read a conspiracy into every little detail that's happening around us.
Personally I think freedom can only come from within a person, but that won't happen in a country where children are forced into arms.


So what is it that you're actually against her? A bureaucratic world government with total supervision? I'm against that too you know...

But what is actually the solution? Leave things as they are? Leave all the countries to their own devices? That won't stop wars from happening. It's human nature to always want something that others have.

I simply don't believe that it's the occult, demons, the devil or aliens corrupting people into starting conspiracies. If there are plans for a world government it's human beings who are behind it. It's of absolutely no importance if you call them Freemasons, Illuminati or whatever.
But what will you do against it? What do you think is the perfect system for all those countries with so many different ways of life?

I have no idea. I'm just trying to do my little bit of taking care of the planet and being there for the people around me.

Actually I have one idea... vipe out humanity and leave the planet to the animals... (sarcasm)

 

[helena22]

yeah i agree with you ! Michael don't like parties and night clubs and all this Hollywood lifestyle and thats what made me suspicious about his addiction ..

i like madonna but she became really odd the last 10 years .. i don't feel comfortable with what she's doing and remember the press likes her ! she's controversial and she makes a lot of headlines but the press do like her in my opinion .. and we know why



he explained it here :

http://www.uri-geller.com/articles/invincible.htm

but we can't trust what he say or what he means this kind of stuff could be easy to manipulate




yeah i saw that pic months ago .. and i was like OMG , that picture confirmed my doubts and suspects about the whole overdose story .. since then i knew michael was murdered

here is the pic

Yes, this is the pic I saw. Thanks for posting. And I quote your post so others who have never seen it can see one of the many possible clues this thread is based on.

... well, I just discovered this topic today. And I just finished reading through all 12 pages and watched most of the video clips posted.

My interest in this topic was drawn due to the fact that I not only worked with a member of the secret society, The Free Masons, he also tried over and over recruit me to his masonry in which followed the NWO path.

First of all, I just want to say that I swear on my love for life, I am not lying about any information I have in regards to this subject matter and is all according to the source and not me. ok?
And I will also say that this topic is actually very serious and can be dangerous if you have the ability to reach people with incredible impact. Otherwise, it's deemed as more conspiracy theorist's blog.

Boy...where do I begin.

Ok, I may have to come in here more than once to explain a few things I learned from this fellah who confided a lot of information in me until he finally gave up and ultimately erased me as a friend, labeled me as "a lost cause" for not wanting to join.

1. The NWO is very real to these people. 2. Yes, its definitely about control.
And they recruit only those who are deemed powerful enough to make changes. Whether you're an actor, musician, politician, comedian, artist, etc. If you have the goods, you're worthy of having dinner with them first. In which then you meet the next member who "tests" you. Followed up by that, you then are introduced by another ranking officer in the group where you're put through another test. The tests are endless. And they do heavy background check on you as well. If you have criminal records or things that are detrimental to their movement, you are not qualified.

Apparently, he believed I was qualified. *shivers*
This person took notice of me through my work with Marvel Comics, Fox's Family Guy and Upperdeck trading cards and the level of passion I had in my speeches in regards to reaching your best potential in life and sharing it with the world to break free from the dome society teaches us to basically live as slaves in. When he first approached me, he asked me if i knew about NWO. I said no. But that I heard some things about it. He was really nice to me at first. Like really nice. Called me brother and everything.

(oh and we both worked for a special elementary after school program which were to impact the lives of children by guiding them to their passions, whether it was music, art, etc, kind of like charity as it was a non profit organization. I worked there for 4 years and finally quit to jump back into my serious goals 2 years ago. He is still to this day, working for the program but has since been promoted to high rank and is no longer in contact with children. When he did have contact with his students, he actually and secretly had the children do seances. Yup...believe it or not. I caught them once when I walked in the class without knocking. He wasn't too happy about that and asked me to please keep it between us.
BTW, he was a rock band teacher for them. Why he was teaching them seance, I have no idea. And I did tell my boss about it. And guess what? He ignored it.)


Anyways, this NWO, Illuminate and Masonry stuff... Not once, did he mention it was about the devil or about evil. (keep in mind, I've done "some" research about masons, nwo, and the illuminate prior to this guy talking to me. But I decided to act completely ignorant about it to see what he had to say.). He really liked me and thought I'd be totally in. I did draw some positive reactions with my responses to him in regards to his belief - at first -.


He explained a lot about why they kept things secret and why they controlled the world media and in many cases the government/president of the United States. He said the masons are all over the world and were not bad people like many speculate.

His reasons were noble. Or at least sounded that way. For the good of the world he said. He said that a lot of people of the world aren't mentally prepared to handle certain truths yet and would be catastrophic if they (the rest of us) knew of the things he did.

He even tried to make me believe that we already had visitors. You know? Aliens.
And he went on and on about it. Let me just say, I am skeptic about many things we people say and do. Because frankly, its in our nature to make up stories for whatever reason. But I have to admit...there were things he said that had me wondering for years.

What I'm sharing here, I'm not doing it to draw attention to myself or anything and I am not saying what he said was true. I'm just sharing that what he said for information purposes.
And let me tell you.. the things he mentioned, goes even FUUUURTHER than what's discussed here. And religion does play a factor here but not exactly in the ways you'd think.
They're not trying to teach you the devil is the way, he said. They just use everything in the world we created, including religion, to manipulate things, just to keep the brotherhood bloodline alive for the New World Order.

There are people on this planet who are apparently extremely conscious in areas that would paralyze our minds if we even tried to thread on them. That's where it gets kind of scary. Because a lot of us, tend to focus on our clothes, movies, gossip, family drama, friend drama, new phones, internet etc etc, that we of can not even fathom the idea of such things happening in this world right now, this very minute.

Now, this is what he told me.... He said "I want you to join up because the new world order is coming. And by being a part of our masonry, you will be protected. You have a lot of talent and we can help make sure you meet success. It's basically survival of the fittest and we're recruiting the elite and talented." .....

To this day, it still sends chills up my spine. We were in a room where the computers were kept with no one else in it. And I wanted to jump out the window. I could not help but think he was crazy.

Anyways, months passed and i kept telling him I was too busy and mentally stressed to go through with it and to give me time. A couple times, we drove up to his lodge to either drop him off or pick him up.
He eventually and noticeably scratched me off. We even almost got into a heavy argument over "true passion" of life once. Since then, (since I quit my job), I haven't seen or heard from him again.

You know what the strange thing was? He spoke so highly of his beliefs like they were the world heroes. Knights of the round, etc. But yet, he loved the occult and even had pictures on his laptop, of occult elements which did include satan'ish type of stuff and now that i remember it, again I'm being 100% HONEST here (I've absolutely no agenda to bs anyone here), he wore nothing but black, drank nothing but soda and claimed he didn't like water.... lol. He said he hated water and that his body took enough of what was needed from the soda he drank. And I'm serious. He always drank coca cola. ALWAYS.
He dressed very clean, but always in black. (not that the color matters anyways. I like wearing black sometimes too)

He also wore this little pendant thing and cuff link with the compass and the letter G on it.
His car had a sticker too, similar to the Marines stickers.
He told me cops leave him alone when they see it.

Well... there's so much more. I had to share this with you guys, not to say what this guy was telling me was true, but that this whole NWO thing and the free masons and Illuminate stuff, does indeed have it roots set on our world today. And they have quite the agenda, let me tell you.

So.... Personally, due to what I learned from him, which would take up pages of information, I would not rule out that the Illuminati had a hand in destroying Michael Jackson.

BUT!! I would advice all of you to really treat this topic with gentleness. Its very very VERY fragile stuff. You can easily turn this whole thing into something completely stupid and lose all its merits gained through the original conception at hand.

I am a great big thinker now and one of the most valuable things I have learned, was to "try" not to jump into conclusions that would endanger the real message or goal.

From being consciously aware, you can all easily look like crazy conspiracy theorists instead. And you don't want that. So be careful. This stuff is real. And if you sing loud enough... they WILL come.

Thank you for sharing. I really appreciate this. I esp. would like to point out that, from the bolded part, just like any clever criminal, they must be smart enough not to come across as some weirdos and to explain what their intentions are in a very reasonable manner to attract potential members. I get a strong impression that they have elitist views, meaning they think they're doing the right thing in their own minds and try to justify it.
I'm saying this becuz...
Recently I've seen some people dismiss even the existence of the Illuminati, let alone its operation cuz they're too caught up in the devil worshipping image involving Rhiana, Jay-Z and treat it as BS thinking, "Oh this must be some made-up stories like myths." I say it's not important what the Illuminati member actually do in their gatherings and whatnot. It's their mindset that should be considered dangerous. And it's not the first time we witness the type of dangerous thinking. How else can we explain all the wrongdoings we read and learn in history under different names like, colonialism, slavery, genocide, etc.? The specific time periods and actual process may be different, but all the events of the dark side of human history share one thing: actual practice of immoral, powerful people to gain more control. Just because the Illuminati is an invisible mastermind unlike those dictators in history, we should not dismiss it as some kind of interesting stuff created by conspiracy theorists.

Lastly, I would like to add that we should NEVER forget the fact that MJ is a black man with unprecedented power, not just in the showbiz, but in general. Throughout the post-slavery/colonialism history, how many black people can you name with such level of control and influence besides some presidents from Africa like, Nelson Mandella and most recently the president of the US, Barack Obama? MJ belongs to one of those very few black people. Do you think power-hungry people like the Illuminati support black people having that much power? Hell no. Then, this alone gives us so many reasons why we should take this thread seriously.

I'm one of the world's minorities-Korean and maybe this is why I have this acute sense of the way the historically oppressed like black people are treated.
This is a bit off-topic, but I say, to those claiming BS like, "MJ is a sell-out" or "He secretly wanted to belong to the white society", his existence itself was a huge threat to white supremacists and in more broadly, racists, whose basic mindset, I think, cannot be seperated from the elitist mindset of the Illuminati. What the fuck are they thinking when they say that shit? I don't get it.

 

[Arabian Knight]

777

On the HIStory album cover and also on the HIStory video teaser you will see Michael wearing number “777”. The Illuminati knows that this number is associated with God and it represents accepting God and Jesus into your life.

Number 555 represents man, 666 represents the devil and 777 God.

To the general public it could mean also a lucky number. However this number “7” played a very important role in Michael’s life. Also in Arabic the number “7” is written as a shape of “V” which could signal victory if this would apply. Overall, it is obvious to me that this is his way of saying that he is on God’s side.

 

[Thetruthbetold]

Wow this thread is very powerful like I said before I know alot about the Illuminati's and michael death is very deep like i said the truth will be told soon

 

[Bo G]

For what it's worth, the following is from the Freemasonry entry in Wikipedia. I'm not here to defend Wikipedia; I'm just sharing this information. I will say this is what I started to see as I followed the links that have been provided in this thread. Sources for the information are provided in the Wiki article.

Being Jesuit-trained, with Jewish relatives, and grandfather and great-grandfather who were Masons, it's obvious why this thread makes me uncomfortable. I'm not a Mason, and I know little about it, other than there are about six million practicing Masons in the world today (according to the Wiki article), and religious tolerance should be a watchword of MJJC, I would think. I don't think any of you would tolerate a thread like this about your own faith. I have a very hard time understanding how it fits in with the stated principles of this site.

Islam and Freemasonry

Many Islamic anti-Masonic arguments are closely tied to both Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism, though other criticisms are made such as linking Freemasonry to Dajjal.[77] Some Muslim anti-Masons argue that Freemasonry promotes the interests of the Jews around the world and that one of its aims is to rebuild the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem after destroying the Al-Aqsa Mosque.[78] In article 28 of its Covenant, Hamas states that Freemasonry, Rotary, and other similar groups "work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions ..."[79] Many countries with a significant Muslim population do not allow Masonic establishments within their jurisdictions. However, countries such as Turkey and Morocco have established Grand Lodges,[80] while in countries such as Malaysia[81] and Lebanon[82] there are District Grand Lodges operating under a warrant from an established Grand Lodge.

There was a time when there existed a number of lodges in Iraq as early as 1919, when the first lodge under the UGLE was opened in Basra,[citation needed] and later on when the country was under British Mandate just after the First World War. However the position changed in July 1958 following the Revolution, with the abolition of the Monarchy and Iraq being declared a republic, under General Qasim. The licences permitting lodges to meet were rescinded and later laws were introduced banning any further meetings. This position was later reinforced under Saddam Hussein, the death penalty was "prescribed" for those who "promote or acclaim Zionist principles, including freemasonry, or who associate [themselves] with Zionist organisations."[83] With the fall of the Hussein government in 2003, a number of Lodges have begun to meet on military bases within Iraq. These lodges primarily cater to British and American military units, but a few have initiated Iraqis. Several Grand Lodges have expressed a desire to charter Lodges with completely Iraqi membership in the near future.

And excerpts from Wikipedia on Anti-Masonry

Conspiracy theories

Main article: Masonic conspiracy theories

Due to its secretive nature Freemasonry has long been a target of conspiracy theories in which it is either bent on world domination or already secretly in control of world politics.

Historically, complaints have been made that the Masons have secretly plotted to create a society based on the revolutionary ideals of liberty, equality, fraternity, separation of church and state and (in Nazi Germany) a Jewish plot for religious tolerance.[24] Similarly, some anti-Masons have claimed that Freemasonry is a Jewish front for world domination, or is at least controlled by Jews for this goal. An example of this is the notorious literary forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Hitler outlawed Freemasonry partially for this reason.[25] The covenant of the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas claims that Freemasonry is a "secret society" founded as part of a Zionist plot to control the world.[26]

The earliest document accusing Freemasonry of being involved in a conspiracy was Enthüllungen des Systems der Weltbürger-Politik (“Disclosure of the System of Cosmopolitan Politics”), published in 1786.[27] The book claimed that there was a conspiracy of Freemasons, Illuminati and Jesuits who were plotting world revolution.[28] During the 19th Century, this theory was repeated by many Christian counter-revolutionaries,[29][30] who saw Freemasons as being behind every attack on the existing social system.[29][30]

Muslim anti-Masonry

Further information: Holocaust denial in the Muslim world, Iraqi Baathist Anti-Masonry and The Covenant of Hamas

Many Islamic anti-Masonic arguments are closely tied to both Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism, though other criticisms are made such as linking Freemasonry to Dajjal.[36] Some Muslim anti-Masons argue that Freemasonry promotes the interests of the Jews around the world and that one of its aims is to rebuild the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem after destroying the Al-Aqsa Mosque.[37] In article 28 of its Covenant, Hamas states that Freemasonry, Rotary, and other similar groups "work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions…."[38] Many countries with a significant Muslim population do not allow Masonic establishments within their jurisdictions. However, countries such as Turkey and Morocco have established Grand Lodges[39] while in countries such as Malaysia[40], and Lebanon[41] there are District Grand Lodges operating under a warrant from an established Grand Lodge.

 

[riviera1992]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE people, keep your mind on the big picture and stop wasting this very important subject by arguying about religion and races. It's all about power and money no matter who you are.
If you truly love Michael let's try to uncover this big mystery together. PLEASE watch this video PLEASE
http://www.sprword.com/videos/ringofpower2/

Arabian Knights, please explain to me why was Michael so crytic with his messages when he well knew that most of his fans would not get his messages and only those trained in symbolism would get them?

Why if Michael so anti war always glamorized army style? Even in TII he has this computer generated One World army? Why putting forth Illuminati views if he was so against it? Was he trying to save the enslaved? And why not letting us , regular unknowing loving fans, know what he wanted. All his crytic symbols and lyrics were just wasted on most of us. But now with your help Arabian Knights it's all so clear. But too late.

BTW, I work at a resort that host the female version of the freemasons "The Rainbow Girls" and every year I'm baffled at what they do. It's all great on the surface. They do a lot of charity work and the speaches by the 33nd grand mason of some lodge always have beautiful emotional speaches. The hall is decorated with tons of flags and symbols meaningless to me of course but these people spend years studying these and know all the meanings.

What gets me is, when we're done serving them food they make us leave the room and everything turns hush hush. I tried many times to take a peak at what the elders were making those young girls do to earn their "stripes" but I was always send away. Every one of them is SUPER nice. They always mention their growing numbers worldwide and it's huge. I don't think that they are any different than ANY religions, groups or whatever if not taken to extremes. Humans want to be part of groups for some reason.

Going back to Michael, can someone please blow up the Murray photo so we can see and read what's on the medals? And please explain what it is?

PS: beware of Illuminati trolls, they haven't become this big by being stupid. They keep up with everything being discussed about them and have people taking the whole subject so far out or in different directions like race and religions or just plain stupidity with the goal that everything will be dismissed as crazyness. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water, this is too important. PLEASE, let's do this for Michael.
Thanks

 

[Asedora]

Why if Michael so anti war always glamorized army style? Even in TII he has this computer generated One World army? Why putting forth Illuminati views if he was so against it? Was he trying to save the enslaved?

This question was not addressed to me but I'll try to make it more clear. I was raised in Christian Orthodox faith and this kind of Christian philosophy is a bit different from Catholicism. In certain circumstances priests always bless soldiers to fight against evil forces. Last time it was during the WW2.
So, for me MJ’s idea of Army of Love is very understandable. If you open the Bible and read for example how Archangel Michael used to fight against evil forces it will make more sense to you. I think this kind of philosophy was very close to Michael but his “Army of Love” has more spiritual meaning.

BO G: Why did you bring this garbage from wiki? Their point of view is always the same: to label everybody as anti-Semitic. I am sick and tired of it and I do not want to read this crap.

 

[riviera1992]

Yes I understand the Army of Love concept but to pair it with Illuminati symbols that most fans wouldn't understand is weird to me. But again I've always been dense when it comes to math and symbols of any kind.

As far as Murray with his medal, here's what I found about his fake lodge.

http://www.masonicinfo.com/conradmurray.htm

So this brings me back to my main thought that he's just an imcompetent poor excuse for a doctor and human being (the guy has 6 or 7 kids with almost all different women and don't support them). Yuk!

 

[Asedora]

Yes I understand the Army of Love concept but to pair it with Illuminati symbols that most fans wouldn't understand is weird to me. But again I've always been dense when it comes to math and symbols of any kind.

!

I think I do not understand you question maybe?. I do not see a problem with concept of "Army of Love" and Illuminati. Just picture Illuminati as an "Army of Hate" and then read the Bible, a part about Archangel Michael.

 

[Nar]

What gets me is, when we're done serving them food they make us leave the room and everything turns hush hush. I tried many times to take a peak at what the elders were making those young girls do to earn their "stripes" but I was always send away. Every one of them is SUPER nice. They always mention their growing numbers worldwide and it's huge. I don't think that they are any different than ANY religions, groups or whatever if not taken to extremes. Humans want to be part of groups for some reason.
Thanks

Totally the same thing I experienced with the fellah I worked with. He was extremely nice. Almost to the point of weird. You know? Like to the amount where you can't help but feel they're trying to compensate for something.
But whatever.
He was a "free" mason. He gave me a different description of what a "mason" was in comparison which I honestly can't remember to save my own life.

You just never know about these things.
Like I said before, I was literally told, control was definitely in their agenda. He LITERALLY said "we're going to take over".
Connected that talk with the NWO and other things I can't remember. It was too much and it made me nauseous, to be honest.

I'm not leaping into totally believing they had anything to do with MJ but like I said before, I wouldn't rule anything out. And just gathering the info i was told by the actual member, truth or lie, it tends to easily fit in these clues and speculations.

 

[Arabian Knight]

For what it's worth, the following is from the Freemasonry entry in Wikipedia. I'm not here to defend Wikipedia; I'm just sharing this information. I will say this is what I started to see as I followed the links that have been provided in this thread. Sources for the information are provided in the Wiki article.

Being Jesuit-trained, with Jewish relatives, and grandfather and great-grandfather who were Masons, it's obvious why this thread makes me uncomfortable. I'm not a Mason, and I know little about it, other than there are about six million practicing Masons in the world today (according to the Wiki article), and religious tolerance should be a watchword of MJJC, I would think. I don't think any of you would tolerate a thread like this about your own faith. I have a very hard time understanding how it fits in with the stated principles of this site.


And excerpts from Wikipedia on Anti-Masonry

You are the first member I came across on MJJC that talks credibly about Wikipedia as a reliable source!! I myself find Wikipedia very unreliable most of the time when it comes to certain information and believe me that it is very easy to verify it. I also remember MJJC members calling it Fake-pedia. Don’t take it as a reference I advise you to find more credible resources than Fake-pedia even if it means you find something that you don’t like to know.

Just like I said before: Look at the big picture. Don’t accept everything they impose on you. You are better than that. The agenda is very obvious and it fits comfortably with the “New World Order”. Michael’s death is just an example of a master plan that controls the whole world.

I must stress that we all have the responsibility to reach for the truth, spread it, and use it to free minds.

The truth leads to freedom. Knowledge is power.

 

[Arabian Knight]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE people, keep your mind on the big picture and stop wasting this very important subject by arguying about religion and races. It's all about power and money no matter who you are.
If you truly love Michael let's try to uncover this big mystery together. PLEASE watch this video PLEASE
http://www.sprword.com/videos/ringofpower2/

Exactly! And thanks for sharing this video.

We need to open up on this idea more often. As long as we keep this respectful then we will be able to uncover a lot of mysteries. We love Michael and he said it himself “It is a conspiracy”, any real fan will respect his point of view and since it is “HIS” point of view it is part of him and worth discussing and analyzing. It is something he allowed to be out there, it is not against his principles because if it was then we will not discuss it of course. Religion is also an important part of our lives and Michael worship God.

Arabian Knight, please explain to me why was Michael so crytic with his messages when he well knew that most of his fans would not get his messages and only those trained in symbolism would get them?

I believe it is because he feared for his life. You know what they did to Bob Marley, Diana, Tupac, etc… I believe he was threatened and under constant attack. Michael has a mission to spread love and peace in this corrupt world. He didn’t want to jeopardize his mission. I am also sure that the trouble he went through gave him stronger faith, it didn’t break him, it made him stronger and that’s why he had songs like Unbreakable, that’s why he left us clues and hints. I really feel that you don’t have to be specialized or trained to understand those symbolisms, because I am a very normal person and the only thing I did is “research”, and currently I am enjoying it, it dose really give inner peace when you see the truth.

Why if Michael so anti war always glamorized army style? Even in TII he has this computer generated One World army? Why putting forth Illuminati views if he was so against it? Was he trying to save the enslaved? And why not letting us , regular unknowing loving fans, know what he wanted. All his crytic symbols and lyrics were just wasted on most of us. But now with your help Arabian Knights it's all so clear. But too late.

Excellent questions. When you love him this much you would want to go and find the answers. Michael’s “Army Of Love” was negatively perceived (as always) when it was first discussed with him in an interview along with his wife. The concept of “Army Of Love” is very interesting, here is a guy who opposes war then he promote “Army Of Love”. But note which song is always performed along with it. It is a very positive idea and the media want to make it look strange and weird. Please don’t get mixed up about Illuminati views because he is clearly exposing them. These are my views and thoughts on Dangerous album and BOTDF album. I know it is too late, I feel very guilty to be honest that I was blind. However it is better late than never, I am sure he will be happy to know that there are more people who started to pay attention to his messages to reach the truth.

BTW, I work at a resort that host the female version of the freemasons "The Rainbow Girls" and every year I'm baffled at what they do. It's all great on the surface. They do a lot of charity work and the speaches by the 33nd grand mason of some lodge always have beautiful emotional speaches. The hall is decorated with tons of flags and symbols meaningless to me of course but these people spend years studying these and know all the meanings.

It is very common that the illuminati use symbols for so many reasons and one of the main reasons is to cast magic spells. I know I sound crazy but this is what I became aware of. These are called “Sigils” created to blind us and to summon their devils. A sigil is usually made up of a complex combination of several specific symbols or geometric figures, each with a specific meaning or intent. They are everywhere! You will be surprised to find them almost everywhere wherever you go. Just look around you.

What gets me is, when we're done serving them food they make us leave the room and everything turns hush hush. I tried many times to take a peak at what the elders were making those young girls do to earn their "stripes" but I was always send away. Every one of them is SUPER nice. They always mention their growing numbers worldwide and it's huge. I don't think that they are any different than ANY religions, groups or whatever if not taken to extremes. Humans want to be part of groups for some reason.

The illuminists are very secretive society and their rituals are very extremely secret they even threaten each other if one of them would expose them that’s why everyone holds something against the other.

Going back to Michael, can someone please blow up the Murray photo so we can see and read what's on the medals? And please explain what it is?

There is a clear freemason’s symbol with the “G” in it, I will have to find a larger image with a backside photo as well.

PS: beware of Illuminati trolls, they haven't become this big by being stupid. They keep up with everything being discussed about them and have people taking the whole subject so far out or in different directions like race and religions or just plain stupidity with the goal that everything will be dismissed as crazyness. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water, this is too important. PLEASE, let's do this for Michael.

What we are discussing here will make a lot of “entities” angry. Since it is VERY CLEAR that Michael left us clues then it is our duty to find them. One clue will lead to the other until you see the big picture.

I have highlighted in this thread before that I am not responsible for anyone. If someone wants to dig deeper to find the truth it is up to them. I am only doing my part to bringing to you what I found. I want people to quit trying to discredit the information coming through his thread under my name. And quit hinting that I have something to hide. I can really imagine what Michael went through.

 

[Nippleina]

great stuff ^ you're the best!

thank you rivera1992 for posting that vid!

 

[Arabian Knight]

Re: Michael Jackson & The New World Order

When JFK made a speech about the secret societies (The Illuminati) he got killed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
[youtube]xhZk8ronces[/youtube]

“we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.” The full written speech is here.

It doesn’t take a genius to realize that there is a huge conspiracy you don’t need to be intelligent to know this, just research.

I wanted to highlight JFK speech again to tell you that this research is done by American and British people as well such as Alex Jones and David lcke, there are many of them with very interesting theories. Check out what Richard C. Hoagland says about NASA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHeoSGOgO5k

[youtube]LHeoSGOgO5k[/youtube]

Just note that those are highly intelligent people.

 

[Arabian Knight]

9/11 Conspiracy

Warning: The following information is not easy to digest and may change your outlook on the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g07zsj5J-JM

[youtube]g07zsj5J-JM[/youtube]

Next part is censored on youtube, you can watch it here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xanwmg_hashemfilm-antichrist-dajjal-pt-128_shortfilms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vX5OsWy8w

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xapqc7_hashemfilm-antichrist-dajjal-pt-130_shortfilms