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Thank you. Because in truth, do you honestly believe Gloria ALred, Bill Oreilly OWNS any kind of Michael Jackson cd? I think NOT.
 
They probably own all of Michael's CD's and then glom all over them at night, lol.

Hey, I'm just stating my opinion. I don't like to be negative, I don't like drama, I'm just saying what I feel. Nothing wrong with that. I'll always say this, just because you're a fan of Michael's doesn't mean I'm gonna be a fan of yours. Just because everyone else thinks its great doesn’t mean I'm going to, or others, as Datsymay and ATLF agreed with me. lol, someone does. All opinions should be allowed to be expressed without having someone jump down your throat for it. You’re obviously allowed to disagree, but a better approach to this is to state, using supporting facts, why, instead of attacking and getting angry.

Legends comments about the allegations speak to an unfortunate circumstance within people's minds, and they are blind to their own actions in this. The fact that it continues to be mentioned, especially in the context Legend mentioned it, only increases the over all affect it has on Michael and his career. Legend is saying it's too bad that the allegations have tainted Michael as an artist, but its people like him and his continual harping on about it, mentioning it in an article where, otherwise it is sorely out of place, that keeps the allegations alive and fresh in people's minds.

Here's the thing though. He may think the trial and the allegations will have some huge, detrimental affect on Michael's ability to come back, but they won't. This thing happened to Michael 14 years ago, it was a far worse situation, publicity wise, in 1993, and it didn't ruin his career, it didn't keep him from still moving more units and having more hits then anyone else, it didn't do any of that. It didn't ruin his career, and the trial, which cast Michael in a far more favorable light then the 93 allegations, due to the trial taking place, will certainly do no more harm to his image and his career then had already been done in the past. When people say his reputation is in shambles, they're wrong, it isn't. His reputation is actually doing better then it was when History came out, every where I look, some artist is praising Michael to high heaven, John Legend is hardly unique in his outspoken admiration for Michael. At least people like Usher supported Michael during the trial; Alicia Key's did the same, LL Cool J. That impresses me. But it's more common to hear artists call Michael a genius then a freak, that's what I've noticed. His artistry and his talent can't be denied and it ultimately has always over ridden the shadow those ridiculous accusations cast on him. Just like with Charlie Chaplin, eventually, it's always the artist's contributions which take center stage. John Legend doesn't understand that, in my view, and I just simply found his comments to be a rehash and safe. He can like whatever he wants, but what I took away from that is, he's been conditioned in to the same mindset as the majority of the public, in that he thinks the only truly relevant work Michael's ever produced were his first two solo albums and his J5 stuff. I just get that impression from what he said. Like he can't think on his own, he's just repeating what he's always heard, what's such common rhetoric among people in general and music critics, it's so easy. That's what made it such a weak article for me. Just my opinion, not meant to insight or outrage, just my opinion.
 
No one is outraged lol, trust me. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions but just like you & others found the article to be boring and repetitive others like myself did not feel that way. Also if you think Michael doesn't have an even bigger problem this time compared with 1993 than you are mistaken. You have to keep in mind that this is the SECOND time Michael has been accused so that right there just looks bad to some people plus as I said before his appearence has changed once again since the allegations so that will not help matters. I mean Michael is looking to make a comeback after all that plus an album (Invincible) that was seen as a flop and has no record label. He has MUCH MORE to overcome this time than he did in 1993.
 
^ True Dat. But above all, he will rise above it. He can do it. I know he will.
 
Well I hope you're right. I mean of course I wish Michael nothing but the best and would love for him to make a huge comeback but i'm just trying to be realistic here. It's not guranteed that he'll make a comeback none of us know that for sure, but all that can be done is to support Michael by buying the album and hope for the best.
 
Well I hope you're right. I mean of course I wish Michael nothing but the best and would love for him to make a huge comeback but i'm just trying to be realistic here. It's not guranteed that he'll make a comeback none of us know that for sure, but all that can be done is to support Michael by buying the album and hope for the best.[/b]
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At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Well said.
 
What's wrong with the last part?

And he isn't comparing MJ to Celine Dion, Elton John et al. He is saying they have performed in Vegas succesfully, which he suggests could work for MJ.[/b]
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I did'nt like that part where he brings up the alligations and where he says Michael's image and legacy is tarnished.
 
I don't believe he has more to overcome, in 93, it was very bad, there was no disemination of information whatsoever, the press had no opposition to what they were saying, Michael was seen in a very bad light due to the settlement, so on and so forth, it was just bad all around. I think there is a mentality now that has people tired of the bashing and just wanting to see what Michael can come up with, plus he was found innocent and that does ring in some people's minds, there was actually a conclusion this time. Physically and mentally, I think it was even harder for Michael, but reputation wise, I think it did nothing to worsen his image, it was already so slandard. I think people are starting to realize just a little bit more that Michael is a once in forever kind of genius who has something truly unique to offer, and they care about that. People don't realize what they had until its gone, Michael's been away for a long while, longer then after 93, and I think people miss him, I really do. His appearance I won't get in to. I think, at the core, that has very little to do with why Michael's been treated so badly. I think of his "altering appearance" as merely an excuse people have come up with to use as reasoning behind their abuse of him. It is not the cause of it, however.
 
I don't see why John had to bring up the alligations at all to begin with. Most celebrities like Beyonce, Will.i.am, Ne-yo and others have talked about his infuence on music have done it without bringing those topics that take away the main topic which is his influence on Music and music alone.
 
I did'nt like that part where he brings up the alligations and where he says Michael's image and legacy is tarnished.[/b]
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As if it isn't the truth? It is tarnished.
 
Lord, I didn't even read all of this and already people are jumping to conclusions. But DirtyDiana69 is RIGHT. The allegations have tarnished MJ's career among other things. Plus the days after "Bad" have been confusing times for Michael. The only thing that kept him going throughout all the scandals and the accusations was the music. Now that he has went through the ringer in that trial, he has a lot to overcome. I think he will but it's a question mark of when.

And this ain't no doom and gloom topic, I'm just being a realist. I also found nothing wrong with what John is saying. To be honest, the Off the Wall and Thriller albums represent the best of 20th century popular music. All "Bad", "Dangerous", "HIStory" and "Invincible" did was present different elements to Michael but yeah, people will choose to remember him for the older albums because that's what GOT HIM to where he was in the first place.

That and being the legendary front man of the Jackson 5. His music is still influential though as it should be and there's nothing wrong with that. But all the negative shit that has happened HAS tarnished a legacy that used to be "valid" in people's eyes. Michael can do it if he gets all of his soldiers back up. We're still waiting, ain't we?
 
Lord, I didn't even read all of this and already people are jumping to conclusions. But DirtyDiana69 is RIGHT. The allegations have tarnished MJ's career among other things. Plus the days after "Bad" have been confusing times for Michael. The only thing that kept him going throughout all the scandals and the accusations was the music. Now that he has went through the ringer in that trial, he has a lot to overcome. I think he will but it's a question mark of when.

And this ain't no doom and gloom topic, I'm just being a realist. I also found nothing wrong with what John is saying. To be honest, the Off the Wall and Thriller albums represent the best of 20th century popular music. All "Bad", "Dangerous", "HIStory" and "Invincible" did was present different elements to Michael but yeah, people will choose to remember him for the older albums because that's what GOT HIM to where he was in the first place.

That and being the legendary front man of the Jackson 5. His music is still influential though as it should be and there's nothing wrong with that. But all the negative shit that has happened HAS tarnished a legacy that used to be "valid" in people's eyes. Michael can do it if he gets all of his soldiers back up. We're still waiting, ain't we?[/b]
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Cheers to you, lol. :)
 
Mmm hmm. All Bad, Dangerous, History and Invincible did was show Michael's growth as an artist. It's unfair to disregard them as less important, they are not. Sales do not equate musical relivance or growth. They equate recognition and popularity, that's it. Michael has grown artistically since OTW and Thriller, those albums do not define him nor his career, they were the beggining of it, but they weren't the end, and they weren't the peak. People are often stuck on them because they represent to them their youth and they feel nostalgic. They often are stuck on them because its been ingrained into their minds to believe they represent the best of Michael's work. If you legitmately feel they are, then that's for you and that's fine, but I get the impression from Legend's "article" that he's regurgitating what he's heard, that his opinions have been formed by what others have said. That's just the impression I got. Song wise, the tracks on Michael's later work are better then the tracks on his eariler work, imo. Maybe production wise the albums suffered some without Quincy Jones, but the actual songs themselves show growth and expantion and maturity on Michael's part. Failing to recognize those works is failing to recognize Michael as a complete artist.

He's had a lot to overcome since 93, his image is no more destroyed now then it was after the first alligations, I never said anywhere that he had nothing to overcome. I'm being realisitc too, I'm looking at this from an outside perspective, viewing how the public reacts to Michael now.
 
I agree with wannabe again, he just said "o yeah he is amazing" but didnt really explain why...
fans write better essay
 
No one is outraged lol, trust me. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions but just like you & others found the article to be boring and repetitive others like myself did not feel that way. Also if you think Michael doesn't have an even bigger problem this time compared with 1993 than you are mistaken. You have to keep in mind that this is the SECOND time Michael has been accused so that right there just looks bad to some people plus as I said before his appearence has changed once again since the allegations so that will not help matters. I mean Michael is looking to make a comeback after all that plus an album (Invincible) that was seen as a flop and has no record label. He has MUCH MORE to overcome this time than he did in 1993.[/b]
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But see, that is the thing, the second time did NOT faze no one because many people know he is a target. The first was a shocker. Like I said, this kind of mess start to fazed and people turn to deaf ears and do not care. Only haters will harp on it but real fans and real music lovers can careless.
 
Lord, I didn't even read all of this and already people are jumping to conclusions. But DirtyDiana69 is RIGHT. The allegations have tarnished MJ's career among other things. Plus the days after "Bad" have been confusing times for Michael. The only thing that kept him going throughout all the scandals and the accusations was the music. Now that he has went through the ringer in that trial, he has a lot to overcome. I think he will but it's a question mark of when.

And this ain't no doom and gloom topic, I'm just being a realist. I also found nothing wrong with what John is saying. To be honest, the Off the Wall and Thriller albums represent the best of 20th century popular music. All "Bad", "Dangerous", "HIStory" and "Invincible" did was present different elements to Michael but yeah, people will choose to remember him for the older albums because that's what GOT HIM to where he was in the first place.

That and being the legendary front man of the Jackson 5. His music is still influential though as it should be and there's nothing wrong with that. But all the negative shit that has happened HAS tarnished a legacy that used to be "valid" in people's eyes. Michael can do it if he gets all of his soldiers back up. We're still waiting, ain't we?[/b]
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I generally agree. I think it's a matter of personal taste as to what people prefer, as the case with John Legend's preferences, but IMHO, the 'Off the Wall' album was more cohesive and very well produced as a collective body of work. That's not to say that everything post Thriller and Bad is irrelevant -- obviously that is not so and what he looks like now is not an issue for me, but I also agree with DD that there are those who do put value in the packaging of a music product than in the product itself. There is no denying that his later works sold better overseas than in the U.S. and BOTDF was not even released stateside.

And while I didn't think Legend's last comments fit with the piece he put forth, it is reality for MJ and it will be interesting to see how he markets his music to push past the damage done to his reputation.
 
They probably own all of Michael's CD's and then glom all over them at night, lol.

Hey, I'm just stating my opinion. I don't like to be negative, I don't like drama, I'm just saying what I feel. Nothing wrong with that. I'll always say this, just because you're a fan of Michael's doesn't mean I'm gonna be a fan of yours. Just because everyone else thinks its great doesn’t mean I'm going to, or others, as Datsymay and ATLF agreed with me. lol, someone does. All opinions should be allowed to be expressed without having someone jump down your throat for it. You’re obviously allowed to disagree, but a better approach to this is to state, using supporting facts, why, instead of attacking and getting angry.

Legends comments about the allegations speak to an unfortunate circumstance within people's minds, and they are blind to their own actions in this. The fact that it continues to be mentioned, especially in the context Legend mentioned it, only increases the over all affect it has on Michael and his career. Legend is saying it's too bad that the allegations have tainted Michael as an artist, but its people like him and his continual harping on about it, mentioning it in an article where, otherwise it is sorely out of place, that keeps the allegations alive and fresh in people's minds.

Here's the thing though. He may think the trial and the allegations will have some huge, detrimental affect on Michael's ability to come back, but they won't. This thing happened to Michael 14 years ago, it was a far worse situation, publicity wise, in 1993, and it didn't ruin his career, it didn't keep him from still moving more units and having more hits then anyone else, it didn't do any of that. It didn't ruin his career, and the trial, which cast Michael in a far more favorable light then the 93 allegations, due to the trial taking place, will certainly do no more harm to his image and his career then had already been done in the past. When people say his reputation is in shambles, they're wrong, it isn't. His reputation is actually doing better then it was when History came out, every where I look, some artist is praising Michael to high heaven, John Legend is hardly unique in his outspoken admiration for Michael. At least people like Usher supported Michael during the trial; Alicia Key's did the same, LL Cool J. That impresses me. But it's more common to hear artists call Michael a genius then a freak, that's what I've noticed. His artistry and his talent can't be denied and it ultimately has always over ridden the shadow those ridiculous accusations cast on him. Just like with Charlie Chaplin, eventually, it's always the artist's contributions which take center stage. John Legend doesn't understand that, in my view, and I just simply found his comments to be a rehash and safe. He can like whatever he wants, but what I took away from that is, he's been conditioned in to the same mindset as the majority of the public, in that he thinks the only truly relevant work Michael's ever produced were his first two solo albums and his J5 stuff. I just get that impression from what he said. Like he can't think on his own, he's just repeating what he's always heard, what's such common rhetoric among people in general and music critics, it's so easy. That's what made it such a weak article for me. Just my opinion, not meant to insight or outrage, just my opinion.[/b]
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I agree with you wannabe. His article read like a cut and paste from a fansite. I didn't mind it until the last part. I felt that his writing didn't come from the heart. It was as if he was asked to write something so he did.
 
But see, that is the thing, the second time did NOT faze no one because many people know he is a target. The first was a shocker. Like I said, this kind of mess start to fazed and people turn to deaf ears and do not care. Only haters will harp on it but real fans and real music lovers can careless.[/b]
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I'm not sure I totally agree that it doesn't matter. I think that a lot of peeps are waiting to see what he is going to bring. If it does not meet their expectations, then there will be the chorus of 'well, I knew he was all washed up', blah, blah. Personally I think that it's incredibly unfair, but many will judge the success of his efforts not only by how well it does on the charts, but how it compares with his body of work. Further, I don't think that there are many peeps out there who separates the man from his music and even if they do believe that the 2003 case was a sham, the preceding 1993 case still casts shadows, plus some of the things that he has stated some just don't agree with. While they may not care one way or another, that doesn't translate necessarily in their support of his future work.

Now the haters are different. They are going to find issue with MJ at every turn. Yet having said all that, I do wish him the very best and I hope he kills it on his next project. I also hope that his songs get played on the radio and that MTV has his film in heavy rotation on the channels they still show videos on. In any case, I plan to support his efforts because I know whatever he does, it will be good.
 
I see it as, Michael was the one who got himself where he is today, not any specific album. If he'd put Thriller out and did nothing else, it wouldn't have had near the impact that it has or sold the number of units that it did. It was his creativity and artistry succeeding it that reallly made him so famous and well known, his dancing, his stylistic singing, his imagry, his story telling ability, his stage presence, his charisma. Each of his albums represents the best in 20th and 21st centurty popular music, not just one or two. I look at tracks, I don't look at albums, because to me, a single song is a piece of art within itself, whether it fits cohesively with other tracks isn't as relivent or as important to me, like a painter who does several canvases, whether the art fits in a similar unit with eachother or compliments each other isn't really that importatnt, what's important is how the paintings stand on their own, and in my view, Michael's later work has shown his growth as an artist, he's gotten better, the songs are richer, more complex, lyrically better, more true to his heart and representivie of him as a person, more honest, and in my view more creative. Without those later works, Michael wouldn't be as great an artist as he is, he would be stunted. People that say Michael needs to go back to his OTW or Thriller sound don't understand art, he can't ever go back to that, because he isn't the same artist, he's changed and he's grown and he's in a different place mentally, he's still pushing to reach his ultimate potential. He proved he could become immensely popular with OTW by it being the biggest selling album from a black artist in history, he did it with Thriller, but had it been any other of his albums that had done the deed, we would be saying the same of those records, they represent this and that and his other albums don't mean as much. It's just not so, all of his albums represent true artistry, and each has it's strengths where perhaps the other ones lack. Maybe production wise OTW and Thriller and Bad out do Dangerous, History and Invincible, but track wise, those latter, along with Bad, and with the exception maybe of "Invincible" out do OTW and Thriller, imo.

In terms of his reputation, the damage was done after 93, but to say its sad and to then, in the same breath, keep the focus on it by brining it up in the first place is hypocritical and the wrong approach. Like with racism, how can people ever get passed the fact of your race when it constantly is made the focul point of conversations?
 
Man MJ hasn't got anythign to worry about. As long as people keep talking about him, he will sell...and that's that. People are clambering for any little bit of news on the man. Any lil info about the album, who he's working with, where he's working. There have been an onslaught of "homages" to MJ in the last two years. Every where MJ goes, there has been chaos. People named things that MJ does "COMEBACK PERFORMANCES" when it wasn't because THEY WANT IT SO BAD. All of this is proof to me that MJ's album will sell like hotcakes. As much as people talk talk talk about how much they hate MJ and think this and that about him, at the end of the day, the more they talk the more people will be curious and want to buy is stuff. As much as people are hungry for Michael Jackson now, there is NO QUESTION that MJ's next project will be a success. People are skeptical, but they will see that that trial probably HELPED him more than hurt him. They WANT michael to come back. They want to see MJ overcome all of this...that's what his story is, that's what they want from him. Plus Now he has a clean slate...people either hate him or they love him (good thing about it is, there are far more people that love him, which is great lol)...so MJ doesn't really need to do damage control. I mean people can either take him or leave him. All MJ needs to do is bring good music, which he always does, to the plate...and watch them eat it up lol. Thats my perspective on it.
 
I'm not sure I totally agree that it doesn't matter. I think that a lot of peeps are waiting to see what he is going to bring. If it does not meet their expectations, then there will be the chorus of 'well, I knew he was all washed up', blah, blah. Personally I think that it's incredibly unfair, but many will judge the success of his efforts not only by how well it does on the charts, but how it compares with his body of work. Further, I don't think that there are many peeps out there who separates the man from his music and even if they do believe that the 2003 case was a sham, the preceding 1993 case still casts shadows, plus some of the things that he has stated some just don't agree with. While they may not care one way or another, that doesn't translate necessarily in their support of his future work.

Now the haters are different. They are going to find issue with MJ at every turn. Yet having said all that, I do wish him the very best and I hope he kills it on his next project. I also hope that his songs get played on the radio and that MTV has his film in heavy rotation on the channels they still show videos on. In any case, I plan to support his efforts because I know whatever he does, it will be good.[/b]
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I understand but I still say, if the music is good, it will uphold itself and people will listen. Yes, people are going to judge him on his past work (that is done with every artist from Prince to Madonna, etc) but I do not think it will be so much about the claims. Look at the top artists of today, ALL of them are Michael wannabees and trying to do Michael sound and it is being loved regardless if some fans like these artist or not. I think the standard Michael has set is what he has to fight to be back in game more that his issues (believe me, if these claims would have never came up not even 1993, Michael would still have deal with these musically issues). Like i said, the claims hurt his reputation (which does not take much to hurt anyone's reputation nowadays) NOT his career.
 
And yes, the 1993 case casts a shadow; but just like shadows, people walk pass them.
 
oh and EXPECT for anything MJ puts out to be a flop at this poiint. EXPECT it. However just because people say it is, doens't mean that's the truth. Anything that ISN'T thriller and DOESN'T sell more than 60 mill (i think it was?) copies is a flop. THat's just how people's minds are programmed right now, so I've come to accept that fact. People feel anything less than thriller means that MJ is washed up blah blah blah. So expect that kind of talk.

I just hope MJ doesn't take what others say about his artistry too seriously because MJ needs to move FORWARD (like he always have) not BACKWARD. Thriller wasn't made by looking in the past, he made thriller looking into the FUTURE. And IF he were to match Thriller, then he should do the same. And another thing that irks me, just being general here, is when peeps say that MJ needs to go back to his ROOTS. MJ has always been in his ROOTS....he's never left. However, MJ refuses to be confined by the conventional and that's what makes him a great ARTIST. He takes risks and he is different. he's not trying to make POP music, he's making MUSIC and I think that where people are thrown off when they hear so-called "filler" songs on his albums like ...I dunno, MOST of HIStory, "Speechless" and "Lost Children" on Invincible. He's not trying to make POPULAR music, he's trying to PUSH THE ENVELOPE. He's trying to make art, and to make GOOD art, you need to take those risks.

It is exactly the reason why I love Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible more than Off the Wall and Thriller.
 
He came he moonwalked he conquered everything and he is the only true living legend![/b]
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what about others like diana ross, stevie wonder, aretha franklin etc ? :brow: hes not the only one hes just the greatest of them all :flowers:

as for the article it was kinda positive when that john legend dude talked about michael's music but it became bullshitty when he made that BS stupid comment at the end :censored: it came off as really offensive to me

its not michaels fault if a bunch of devils tried to set him up. so yeah F ! % K that. the world knows the truth and always did. when michael drops his album everyone and i mean everyone (not only his fans) will start worshiping him again as always.
 
The curiostiy factor alone will give Michael a sales boost, people want to know what he's going to say and what he's going to do, whether they are a fan or not. If he sat down and gave an interview right now, on TV, what do you think the ratings would be like? Curiosity always gets the better of people. He's given it time to cool down and given people time to think about him, and think about him they do. He's so famous that its absurd and when he actually gets the gears going in terms of projects being released, of speaking out for the first time, after everything that happened, people will be straining their ears to listen. Deep down, every one is a Michael Jackson fan, they look when he walks by.

Look at this, "History" became the largest selling two disc set in history, "Blood On The Dance Floor" became the largest selling remix disc in history, "Invincible" went mulit, multi-plantinum, went to number one in dozens and dozens of countries and had the only single released from it enter the top 10 on Billboards music charts. He's fine.
 
John Legend meant well. He just left out a sentence.

Here. I'll add it for him.

Today I think his music still holds up. You can play Thriller at a party and people get excited. You hear him sampled a lot and he’s influenced quite a few male pop stars - Justin Timberlake, Usher and Ne-Yo, you can see it in their writing and their choreography, that Michael Jackson '80s influence. But his personal life has tarnished his legacy. It's natural that people don't separate them. He's not held in the same positive light and I don't think that will ever change. Every artist has their ups and downs. But I think being accused of molesting children is a little bit extreme, even for a star. But at the same time, what I think is even more extreme, is that the one that originally accused Michael in '93, was hit in the head with a weight by his own father shortly after Michael was exonerated in 2005.[/b]
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Maybe someone should send John Legend this article so he can modify his write-up.

Aveeno, I can still hug you for discovering the court filing for the restraining order. I mean, what better way is there for a father to show his son he loves him and cares about his safety than to hit him in the head with a weight?

Onetime Jackson accuser claims father attacked him
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Published: September 5, 2006

TRENTON, New Jersey A man who as a boy accused Michael Jackson of molesting him and got a $20 million (€15.6 million) settlement from the pop singer now has won a ruling that could bring a trial on a claim he was attacked by his own father.

The man is seeking a restraining order against his father, who he said "struck him on the head from behind with a twelve and one-half pound (5.6 kilogram) weight and sprayed his eyes with mace or pepper spray and tried to choke him," according to an appellate court ruling.

A state Family Court judge in August 2005 had granted the man a temporary restraining order, but later refused to issue a permanent order.

The two-judge appellate panel said that was a mistake, writing, "Given the nature of the attack, it would appear that . . . immediate danger" could be inferred.

The panel sent the case back for trial and the temporary restraining order remains in effect.

The three-page ruling, from June 8, was reported Tuesday by the New York Daily News.

The man's lawyer, Brian M. Schwartz, did not immediately return a message seeking comment Tuesday and also did not respond to a request from the newspaper.

The father's lawyer, Raoul Bustillo, told the newspaper he would not discuss the case. He did not return a call Tuesday from The Associated Press.

The Associated Press is withholding the names of those involved to protect the identity of the accuser in the Jackson case. The man was a teen when he made the allegations against Jackson in 1993.

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It was not that THRILLER was the greatest work Michael ever did to date.. If BAD was his second second solo 1981-1984, it would have been the largest album.. It was the timeing, and how Michael used it to his advantage..

Michael revolutionized Video (film) and dance in the same era.. (THAT IS HUGE) If BAD 18 minute video came out before THRILLER video, it would have been the BIG "THRILLER".. Also, Michael broke COLOR boundaries that were built (Changed the MTV age forever).. in that same era.. When SO MUCH happens at ONCE that makes that album, look LARGEST..

But it's just Michael broke it then.. So once BAD, DANGEROUS was released... There was less boundaries to BREAK DOWN.. At this point, it's hard to FIND things to break boundaries for him.. He literally LOOKS for records to break now.. That is tough.

in the early 80's, he just could be HIMSELF, and his talent broke the records for himself... But once you break majority of records. U are left there standing, looking for what else is there to revolutionize..

He's revolutionized
video (filM)
Dance
Tour productions
album sales
Entertainment financias
Music

What else is there to conqure in entertainment? He's left with very little to revolutionize, and stuck with beating himself and his own revolutions.. That's HARD..

Once you smash everything infront of you becoming SO LARGE.. There is nothing to smash but YOURSELF..
 
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