Lisa Marie on Good Morning America

[maral]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

this discusion is getting out of hand

 

[bluetopez]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

MJ died in 2009 lisa was still talkin crap about him in 2008 only months BEFORE MJ passed! Now, I am one who believes that relationship was real and was happy for MJ when he married. But, WILL NOT easy forget how evil she became towards MJ when he wouldn't go back with her. Even after she allegedly moved on which was B.S. No one spends that much enegry in PUBLIC bashin someone if they have moved on. So puttin everyone on this thread that can't stand her ways in a "jealously" category is ridiculous.

Lisa doesn't give half this much attention to Nic Cage, her first husband and her new one at all. And to know that MJ pic is in that Elvis exhibit just proves my point even more and shows how ridiculous Lisa can be and how many of us here DO HAVE A POINT wether some like it or not.

 

[missred07]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Agree that Lisa did big mistakes, she shouldn't talk of him publicly how she did, this was a low blow of her part also I think she should have kept her promise of having his children, everything would have been different today, I do believe it'd have strengthened their marriage and maybe he'd be with us now. When she married with him she knew who he was, the biggest star, and knew her life as his wife would be different what she was used though I imagine it is not easy to be surrounded the most time of other people, you need quality time with your partner to develop your relationship, anyway...

Now I don't think their relationship was untill divorce came definitely no, more I think her strong angriness was due to differents issues they had before she began her bad talking on him, if I am not wrong it was in 2003. I do believe they were in a off and on during years after divorce and in this last stage ONE of their big differences was the time spent together as was during their marriage.

Well, I agreed with your first paragraph. Just like MJ said himself, he knew he was not a easy man to be married too. My problem with LMP is she never admitted that it's not only MJ or Debbie or MJ's people's faults. The marriage is between she and MJ. She also played parts in the falling out. Why kept saying I am so innocent, MJ was so manipulated. All the other people stood in between us blah blah. She never admitted she is one of the most key factor. My other problems with her is the words she said is just too horrible to say in public. Yes, she is hurt, she is angry. It's all understandable. However, saying all those things in public is just way too low for people to do it. I really don't like this kind of personality.

As for your second paragraph. I think LMP started to bad mouth him around 1999. MJ himself said to Shmuley around 2000-2001 that his heart closed for LMP and LMP kept writing letters and tried to reach out through Katherine. We also knew that LMP actually reached out through Janet that they even both attend to some invent together. MJ himself said his heart closed to Lisa after the divorce. I actually believed MJ's words over LMP. He never thought the tapes were going to be released without his permission. I also saw someone who actually knew MJ for more than a decade commenting on LMP's Oprah latest interview. That person said LMP lied about lots of things and said MJ put his focus on his kids after Prince was born. MJ didn't even have time to deal with LMP. That person is really angry with what LMP said during the latest oprah interview and said Debbie is a way descent woman.

 

[8701girl]

MJ died in 2009 lisa was still talkin crap about him in 2008 only months BEFORE MJ passed! Now, I am one who believes that relationship was real and was happy for MJ when he married. But, WILL NOT easy forget how evil she became towards MJ when he wouldn't go back with her. Even after she allegedly moved on which was B.S. No one spends that much enegry in PUBLIC bashin someone if they have moved on. So puttin everyone on this thread that can't stand her ways in a "jealously" category is ridiculous. Lisa doesn't give half this much attention to Nic Cage, her first husband and her new one at all. And to know that MJ pic is in that Elvis exhibit just proves my point even more and shows how ridiculous Lisa can be and how many of us here DO HAVE A POINT wether some like it or not.

Excatly! There is not one happy married woman that i know who talks or thinks bout their ex constantly like lisa does with mj. Honsetly imo to me it seems shes not happily married to lockwood otherwise she wouldnt be bringing mj up in nearly every interview she does.

 

[marebear]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

I believed that their marriage was real. Unfortunately not all marriages work out. Especially celebrity ones and I thought they married too fast but it was their life. I feel no jealousy. I don't like her treatment towards Michael after the divorce. It was mean and if Michael was still alive she wouldn't be saying the things she does now. If she really knew him you would think she would say he would never hurt anyone especially children but even that she cannot 100% say for some reason when others who loved Michael can say without question. I find that sad.

She will always be Michael's ex-wife. Just like Debbie was. Nobody is denying that. Just because she is saying nice things now doesn't mean I have to automatically like her now. I wish she said these things before he died. Now I feel like whatever to be honest because it feels too late. I would think it would mean something because she was married to him but she said too many hateful things over years that it doesn't anymore.

 

[susna]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

I get what u are trying to say but, don't agree with the bolded part! Because she married 2 men after MJ and and had two children with her new recent husband. So it's NOT normal to still be so hateful and talk ill about someone after u "so called" moved on. Her comments about MJ over the yrs were OVER THE TOP and made her look worst then she tried to make him. She was trying to play "I'm normal, it was all a mistake and he used me" card way to hard. And FAILED.

No,it was not normal then I have to think what really was happening there?

She was 26yrs old when she married Michael. She already had a marriage under her belt and two kids from her first husband before that which was something MJ never had, he had no kids and never married. She was far more experience then he was in those things. So I ain't buying the whole poor confused Lisa, she likes to play to everyone. U know that same Lisa that CHOSE to leave her first husband for MJ and the same Lisa who CHOSE to try to get back with MJ after SHE WALKED OUT on him first!

I perfectly understand your point, I have been critical regarding to Lisa's behavior which I consider was poor, low and hateful, she did many comments that hurt me personally, she not only said he was a mistake said things more hurtful, one of the most sensitive points for MJ, the children, I hated to hear her to say she chose the men what she chose as fathers for her children... it was low and hurtful I'd say cruel thing, but I try to put in her shoes it doesn't mean that I think she didn't do wrong, Michael deeply hurt her too though she failed her promise and they got divorce, we know what happened quickly after their divorce.

And yes I do remember her being there for him during 93 like MJ said. But, damn don't all of that kinda fly out the window when she says she don't know who she was at the time when she was with him? She clearly regretted being their for him after he wouldn't go back with her officially. What a pity because that shouldn't have to do anything with ones innocene.

To be honest I don't forget she supported him, took care of him and married with him during one of his worse times when many people wanted crushed him, she was with him. Now after she did all what we know, wrong things, ...we don't know the entire story.

And that's what I can't stand about her, that she still till this day can't fully defend him publicly. There's always a but, from her her statements. Some safe talk so she don't make herself look bad because she worries to much about her own image to the press and trying to look normal...something she never was.

Agree on she can't fully defend him publicly...this part I have tried to understand but maybe it is due to her past experience when she was sued in 1995 or 1996 when she defended him in Diane Swayer...

 

[Victory22]

I am extremely grateful to Lisa Marie for one thing and that is for NOT having children with MJ. The only thing I can think of that would be more horrible then them growing up around LaToya, Joe and Randy is growing up with LISA as their mother. She would have broken MJ’s heart and killed him before Murray. If she had his children she would have divorced him, taken his children and money and used the kids to control him. Thank you Lisa Marie you did one thing right.

 

[susna]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Well, I agreed with your first paragraph. Just like MJ said himself, he knew he was not a easy man to be married too. My problem with LMP is she never admitted that it's not only MJ or Debbie or MJ's people's faults. The marriage is between she and MJ. She also played parts in the falling out. Why kept saying I am so innocent, MJ was so manipulated. All the other people stood in between us blah blah. She never admitted she is one of the most key factor. My other problems with her is the words she said is just too horrible to say in public. Yes, she is hurt, she is angry. It's all understandable. However, saying all those things in public is just way too low for people to do it. I really don't like this kind of personality.

Lisa did many mistakes and MJ too. You know what I am convinced MJ regretted many of his decisions, sadly I do think he died regretting

As for your second paragraph. I think LMP started to bad mouth him around 1999. MJ himself said to Shmuley around 2000-2001 that his heart closed for LMP and LMP kept writing letters and tried to reach out through Katherine..

MJ said to Shmuley many things more...he said he had contact with Lisa and her children also said in one of the convo he didn't have the LM'd phone number due she had changed it but he'd get it or was trying to get it....I noticed MJ brought LM's name to the convo...what I don't understand very well is what he meant when he said closed his heart to her if it is well known they were together after divorce and I am not talking of tabloides info...if you take MJ's timeline you will be able to find out some of it.

We also knew that LMP actually reached out through Janet that they even both attend to some invent together. MJ himself said his heart closed to Lisa after the divorce. I actually believed MJ's words over LMP.

I really know they both wanted back but at the end the end know what happened...As MJ said he was as rock, no time, much work, no stable place +vampires, leeches, Scientology, their temper=so difficult.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

But the MJ part isn't being publicized to sell this exhibit.

Personally, I think it's kinda funny that MJ's apart of the exhibit because MJ is the dirty little secret Elvis fans so so so want to forget. They absolutely hate that Lisa is being positive towards him.

The post you quoted did not state that the MJ part is being used to sell the exhibit. She is using Michael because of his Star quality and his ability to appeal to many, because the Elvis appeal compared to Michael is dwindling. The Elvis fans of course will be interested in the exhibit, but Michael is the dead star that is the money making machine now, so showing a connection to Michael is a way to gain interest from a wider fan base. If this was not the case, she would have been showing pictures of all the husbands.

 

[Ginger]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

^ Dear , check out the pages and you will read many members mentioned "jealousy" as an easy and poor way to stop other members from sharing their opinions .

And please don't turn this discussion into "fans issue" thing because I won't help you , you know full and well that everything will be alright if we stop using some poor "names" to describe each other !!

Dear, I don't have time to sit here and read pages and pages of various threads because I actually have a life. I'm conversing about THIS thread and what is going on here only.

 

[Ginger]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

The post you quoted did not state that the MJ part is being used to sell the exhibit. She is using Michael because of his Star quality and his ability to appeal to many, because the Elvis appeal compared to Michael is dwindling. The Elvis fans of course will be interested in the exhibit, but Michael is the dead star that is the money making machine now, so showing a connection to Michael is a way to gain interest from a wider fan base. If this was not the case, she would have been showing pictures of all the husbands.

I do question as to why she decided to use a picture of Michael in her part of the exhibit, but it is my understanding that this part is specifically about her life, not Elvis, and LMP included many other pieces of clothing along with pictures in the exhibit. Personally, I think she is feeling guilty and trying to right some wrongs she did. She was his wife at one point, and she is forever linked with him, so it is what it is. However, I don't believe she is trying to attract a wider fan base, this was mentioned in only two places that I know of, and the remaining press has been about Elvis and no mention of Michael, as it should be.

 

[Ginger]

I am extremely grateful to Lisa Marie for one thing and that is for NOT having children with MJ. The only thing I can think of that would be more horrible then them growing up around LaToya, Joe and Randy is growing up with LISA as their mother. She would have broken MJ’s heart and killed him before Murray. If she had his children she would have divorced him, taken his children and money and used the kids to control him. Thank you Lisa Marie you did one thing right.

WOW... just wow! SMH

 

[michaeljacksonhairtk]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Lisa-Marie is pretending to be all sad but what I find is that it seems so put on. When she and Michael sepearated she came across as a very nasty person she is so hard looking and very cold around the heart. I don't like her one bit I don't mind Elvis but I don't like her I like Debbie much better at least she is human and is a warm person. Lisa-Marie is just a nasty piece of work.

 

[Victory22]

I’m shaking my head too at the nerve of Mrs. Lockwood thinking she can pull a fast one on a MJ fan! Lisa thinks she is slick but me thinks she could use a little more grease.

 

[michaeljacksonhairtk]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

whatever lisa..nobody cares what you have to say

I love what you just said then totally 10000000000% agree. Lisa-Marie was so mean to Michael when they were married so mean.

 

[michaeljacksonhairtk]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

I don't know where my posts keep disappearing too but what I don't like about Lisa is that even though she was Michael's wife she was terrible nasty girl to him and after the marriage she said horrible things about him and now that MJ is dead she is saying how wonderful he is - talk about fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She comes across to me as a nasty piece of work a person who is very cold around the heart. I'm happy that MJ and her never had kids together. She is a nasty person period.

 

[missred07]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Lisa did many mistakes and MJ too. You know what I am convinced MJ regretted many of his decisions, sadly I do think he died regretting

Of course, just like what I said before, everyone had things they regretted including MJ. But whether he died regretting, I don't know. Only MJ can answer that question. And my POV is I don't really think he was still regretting for LMP. They already divorced for more than 10 years ago and they both got married after that. To me, MJ seemed to be the kind of the person who focus on current and future things more and not always look back.

MJ said to Shmuley many things more...he said he had contact with Lisa and her children also said in one of the convo he didn't have the LM'd phone number due she had changed it but he'd get it or was trying to get it....I noticed MJ brought LM's name to the convo...what I don't understand very well is what he meant when he said closed his heart to her if it is well known they were together after divorce and I am not talking of tabloides info...if you take MJ's timeline you will be able to find out some of it.

I guess people had different interpretation reading it. To me, I felt MJ just said it out of polite. MJ said they were still friends after divorce (although I doubt are they still friends at that time because LMP already started bad mouth him around 1999 and Shmuley tape should be around 00-01). Shmuley asked whether they are still in contacts and MJ just said he didn't have her current numbers and he would ask for it. If they are in contacts constantly, how come MJ didn't have LMP's number? I also don't know how you get the conclusion that they are "together as couple". The timeline can only show LMP traveled with MJ from time to time (since it's all over the news at that time.). It can go both way. It might be they are really "being together" or LMP chasing him around the world. For this issue, I actually believes MJ rather than LMP's words. MJ said clearly LMP tried to get back to him and wrote many letter offering him kids. However, he didn't want to take her back. The other thing is as I said before, the person who knew MJ also said not seeing any sign that MJ was still "being together" with LMP after the divorce. MJ put his full focus on Prince and Paris and didn't have much time to deal with LMP. My "POV" is it can just explain why LMP behaved and acted like that after 99. She tried to go back to MJ and MJ just turned her down. She was angry with him. I totally don't buy the stories that she had to leave him eventually because MJ chose doctors and drugs reminding her about her father blah blah. It just doesn't make any sense at all. How come she wanted to have kids with drug addict? BTW, if it's her decision to eventually leave him, why so bitter and angry toward MJ? My POV is MJ was the one who turned her down. That's why she was so mad and bad mouth him to death.

I really know they both wanted back but at the end the end know what happened...As MJ said he was as rock, no time, much work, no stable place +vampires, leeches, Scientology, their temper=so difficult.

I still don't know why you think they "both" wanted back when MJ clearly said that LMP is the one wanting to be back to him but he closed his heart to her already. It's a tough marriage, I don't blame the falling out fully to Lisa. Sometime the relationship just can't work. However, I just hope Lisa can stop blaming the whole thing to MJ.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

I'm honestly sick of her. She spoke about him like he was nothing for years and now she keeps talking on and on and on and on about him. Sigh. Just leave the man alone.

 

[jaydom7]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

I'm honestly sick of her. She spoke about him like he was nothing for years and now she keeps talking on and on and on and on about him. Sigh. Just leave the man alone.

Right! she needs to keep her promise that she said on Oprah in 2010 which is not to speak about Michael or even mention his name ever again.

 

[bluetopez]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

To be honest I don't forget she supported him, took care of him and married with him during one of his worse times when many people wanted crushed him, she was with him. Now after she did all what we know, wrong things, ...we don't know the entire story.

I didn't say u have to forget. My point was that Lisa sure seem to have forgotten with the comments she had made towards him and her saying that she don't know who she was during that time. Like she was in some kind of spell or something. SMH

Agree on she can't fully defend him publicly...this part I have tried to understand but maybe it is due to her past experience when she was sued in 1995 or 1996 when she defended him in Diane Swayer...

Who knows? She seems to blame everything and everyone except herself too, that's all I know. But, whatever the reasons why she fails in defending him properly doesn't make her look good at all. Because she had two small children during her mariage to MJ and wanted to have kids with him at one point too. Yet, she can't say she knows for sure he wouldn't hurt a kid? She makes herself look foolish when she says things like this and doesn't come off "normal" to society & the media like she so hoped for.-_-

 

[8701girl]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

maybe it is due to her past experience when she was sued in 1995 or 1996 when she defended him in Diane Swayer...

When did that happen? i dont remember that

 

[MJTheKing]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

I still don't know why you think they "both" wanted back when MJ clearly said that LMP is the one wanting to be back to him but he closed his heart to her already. It's a tough marriage, I don't blame the falling out fully to Lisa. Sometime the relationship just can't work. However, I just hope Lisa can stop blaming the whole thing to MJ.

Remember what Michael EXACTLY told Rabbi "THE MEDIA DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE STORIES" , sounds like Michael knew Lisa will never tell the truth no matter what !!

And honestly the story about Michael calling her in 2005 "checking to get a read" , I mean how can I believe that Michael after reading and watching her interviews (the trial is blessing - its a Karma police) would call her to tell her "you were right about a lot of things we had talked about " ??!! And please "keep your head together" .. huh ? Really ? You couldn't even stop bashing and mocking him and now you are acting like you cared much about his "sanity" .. and really I'm tired of people who come to tell us after his death "I was good" "I was right" blah blah !!

Sure I have no comment about "do you still love me ?" and what she meant through what she said .. !!!

 

[missred07]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Remember what Michael EXACTLY told Rabbi "THE MEDIA DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE STORIES" , sounds like Michael knew Lisa will never tell the truth no matter what !!

And honestly the story about Michael calling her in 2005 "checking to get a read" , I mean how can I believe that Michael after reading and watching her interviews (the trial is blessing - its a Karma police) would call her to tell her "you were right about a lot of things we had talked about " ??!! And please "keep your head together" .. huh ? Really ? You couldn't even stop bashing and mocking him and now you are acting like you cared much about his "sanity" .. and really I'm tired of people who come to tell us after his death "I was good" "I was right" blah blah !!

Sure I have no comment about "do you still love me ?" and what she meant through what she said .. !!!

lol I think LMP's comment about this phone call is one of the most interesting part of that interview. That comment just made me believe that she just lied so many things. The whole thing just doesn't make any sense at all.

Let's assume what LMP said is real and MJ did call her and cried out to her during 05. MJ either called her before or after the Oprah interview she did with her mom.

If MJ called her before the interview with her mom, I really want to question LMP. What kind of a person you are? How can you go so low? A person you claimed you loved so much pulled his heart out to you, then you just went out on national TV and bad mouth him like that? Yes, she said she is indifference. But all those things she said is way beyond indifference. What kind of people can actually do that when someone just pulled his heart to you? If it really happened, it just show how horrible personality LMP has. Her comment about the 05 is what made me so angry if the whole thing is true. I can't image how MJ would feel when he knew LMP said all those things about him after he called her. Even for LMP, it's hard for me to believe that someone can actually do this kind of thing. It's just too horrible to believe.

The other scenario is MJ called after the interview. Is that even possible? Is anyone going to pull your heart out to someone who just bad mouth you horribly on national TV? Calling you manipulating, it's all about using, holly mother hell etc? It just doesn't make sense at all. How desperate a person can be to do that?

So it's either LMP had a horrible personality that she did the lowest low in someone's darkest day. Not only that, the person she bad mouth about just called you and cried out before. You don't do this kind of thing to a friend, not alone someone you claimed you loved so much before. It's not just indifference. Or MJ is desperate enough to even want seek sympathy from a person bashing him like hell before. Or LMP just lied about the whole "he was still trying to reach out to me" claim.

 

[ginvid]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Ok, I came in here yesterday and asked for people to stop the bickering, and this was ignored. I am giving a final warning for this thread before it is closed.

Also, Please read this:

This thread is about LMP's recent interview. That is all. There is no need to go on for pages and pages about interviews Michael did about Lisa and interviews Lisa did about Michael years and years ago. Any posts that continue to dwell on this will be deemed off topic.It is a derailment for the thread. The topic is this current interview. That is all.

Please stop bashing each other. Please respect each other's opinions without calling a person a stan of LMP just because they see things differently than you. Please stop calling your fellow members young and stupid because they think differently than you.

All of this is not necessary.

Please guys. :flowers: Thanks!

 

[Diplomate]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Michael called her after the verdict.

 

[AngieJ]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

The post you quoted did not state that the MJ part is being used to sell the exhibit. She is using Michael because of his Star quality and his ability to appeal to many, because the Elvis appeal compared to Michael is dwindling. The Elvis fans of course will be interested in the exhibit, but Michael is the dead star that is the money making machine now, so showing a connection to Michael is a way to gain interest from a wider fan base. If this was not the case, she would have been showing pictures of all the husbands.

But if what you're saying is true, where exactly are the MJ mentions to promote this exhibit? Yeah, the Elvis thing is dwindling, but from her actions it's the Elvis fans she is going after. You see her upcoming plans? That's all Elvis not MJ.

My god, the woman just uttered two sentences and you all are still going on and on about it rehasing things she's said in the past we all know she said, big f-ing deal! What was said was said, and it's clear LMP is paying for it now, I wouldn't want to be in her position given how her mistakes are so public, she doesn't need MJ fans to remind her, she lives with it everyday I'm sure.

However, nobody, not even the Arvisos, the Chandlers or even Dr. Murray get this much hatred, and you all can pretend up and down it's not jealousy but it is because the constant yapping about this broad is astounding. You people are an angry bunch and it appears you need to re-evaluate your own lives instead of judging other people on matters for which you only know a sliver of truth. Get over yourselves!

Hands down best post in this thread.

I've always understood fans anger towards her, but what you see now from fans regarding her is just so over the top.

 

[bluetopez]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Well then goin back to topic...Why is MJ part of the Elvis Exhibit? But, not her other husbands? Oh that's right, no one can answer that question. SMH But, deep down we all know why!

 

[ExoticPrincess]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

Well then goin back to topic...Why is MJ part of the Elvis Exhibit? But, not her other husbands? Oh that's right, no one can answer that question. SMH But, deep down we all know why!

DING, DING, DING, DING, DING!!!!!!!

That indeed is the question to be answered.

 

[Lynnybb]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

It seemed to me she really didn't want to talk about MJ, but that's what everyone else wants to hear about.

 

[susna]

Re: Lisa Marie on Good Morning America on feb 1./speaking 'bout Michael

the person who knew MJ also said not seeing any sign that MJ was still "being together" with LMP after the divorce. MJ put his full focus on Prince and Paris and didn't have much time to deal with LMP. My "POV" is it can just explain why LMP behaved and acted like that after 99.

The thing is that I also know people that knew MJ and shared with him in 2000's and they tell a different story to yours, very different but my intention is not to enter in details about that here. I only know what I know and for this reason I have a different opinion to some fans in regard to Lisa and MJ'S relationship.