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Re: La Toya: Michael Jackson's death a "conspiracy"

Whatevs, La Toya...

This whole 'fall guy' crap could get on one's nerves for real. Don't care who paid him to be that dumb and incompetent and heartless, but he is the one who ultimately "shot" Michael, so 'fall guy' my neck. If at least he showed some kind of remorse, of feeling, of non-me-ness from time to time, one could actually look at him as more human. With that attitude on top of the tragedy he created, he is not that way. He's the First, Direct responsible culprit for his death, he administered the fatal doses to his patient who allegedly put his trust in him, he left him to die while he tried to grab his dirty 'weapons', so this fall-guy ish should just be flushed down the freakin' toilet, am sick of this ongoing crap. Won't be surprised if he doesn't get convicted not one bit. The media supports him, he's got some mindless supporters of his own, the system pretty much favors him too (the 4-year possible sentence is just one of the things that are more than abnormal)... so yeah.

End of rant.
 
Re: La Toya: Michael Jackson's death a "conspiracy"

Alma said:
End of rant.
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Picking up rant:

The talk of Murray being the "fall guy" means nothing at this point. I mean, what exactly are the Jackson's doing in order to bring the OTHERS involved out into the light.

Ah, aside from suing AEG, I would have to say the answer is: NOTHING!
 
Re: La Toya: Michael Jackson's death a "conspiracy"

Alma said:
Whatevs, La Toya...

This whole 'fall guy' crap could get on one's nerves for real. Don't care who paid him to be that dumb and incompetent and heartless, but he is the one who ultimately "shot" Michael, so 'fall guy' my neck. If at least he showed some kind of remorse, of feeling, of non-me-ness from time to time, one could actually look at him as more human. With that attitude on top of the tragedy he created, he is not that way. He's the First, Direct responsible culprit for his death, he administered the fatal doses to his patient who allegedly put his trust in him, he left him to die while he tried to grab his dirty 'weapons', so this fall-guy ish should just be flushed down the freakin' toilet, am sick of this ongoing crap. Won't be surprised if he doesn't get convicted not one bit. The media supports him, he's got some mindless supporters of his own, the system pretty much favors him too (the 4-year possible sentence is just one of the things that are more than abnormal)... so yeah.

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Good Post!!! I wish the Jacksons would grow some grit and show some passion for their murdered brother. Murray has shown absolutely no remorse or feeling for what he did and Michael's family are acting all meek and timid and not speaking up is pissing me off. Like I said they should be on every freakin' channel calling out Murray for killing MJ or if they feel Murray is the fall guy they should be asking Murray who in the hell paid him to kill MJ. Has the Jackson family publicly called out Murray to find out who he did the killing for?
 
Re: La Toya: Michael Jackson's death a "conspiracy"

everyone did it but murray. guess u get more money for interviews if u spice it up. not to mention its all about the AEG lawsuit. everythings a game to them even what happened to mj.i wonder if they would be saying this if murray was a millionaire?
 
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Re: La Toya: Michael Jackson's death a "conspiracy"

even if he is the fall guy, he is still guilty, because Michael died under his watch and because of his actions (or rather, total lack of those...). So he still should be panished.

As for others who may be also responsible, the Jacksons should stop talking in riddles and go to the police and name the names.
 
As for others who may be also responsible, the Jacksons should stop talking in riddles and go to the police and name the names.
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they dont have any. they are full of crap
 
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JMie said:
As for others who may be also responsible, the Jacksons should stop talking in riddles and go to the police and name the names.
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The only name they have is AEG. LOL!

In the VERY beginning, talk of a "conspiracy" and Murray being the "fall guy," might have sounded intriguing to some, but all of this time later nothing new has been added.

They're just "TALKING LOUD AND SAYING NOTHING!"

I mean, seriously, almost 2-years later and they have added absolutely NOTHING to their repeated ramblings of "others" and "the fall guy."
 
Dammit woman if you really think there were other people involved get your ass off TV and do something about it. If you had you had proof turn it over to people who can do something with it. I mean dammit stop all of this talking your brother's dead for almost two years and you still running your damn mouth about the same thing. But have yet to do something about it. If the cops won't do nothing hire a damn PI and do your own investigation. Nothing put words that is all you have you are damn liar and if Murray you better not cut the fool about it because you said he was the fall guy and he should not be blamed. I have never seen a more ass backwards bunch of people in my life
 
Justthefacts said:
Dammit woman if you really think there were other people involved get your ass off TV and do something about it. If you had you had proof turn it over to people who can do something with it. I mean dammit stop all of this talking your brother's dead for almost two years and you still running your damn mouth about the same thing. But have yet to do something about it. If the cops won't do nothing hire a damn PI and do your own investigation. Nothing put words that is all you have you are damn liar and if Murray you better not cut the fool about it because you said he was the fall guy and he should not be blamed. I have never seen a more ass backwards bunch of people in my life
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Bravo!!!!!! I've never seen anything like it either.. Here she is thinking her brother was a victim of a murder conspiracy yet she is concentrating on being on television and getting on Celebrity apprentice. It baffles my mind how they are. The other sister is on tour laughing and grinning but her brother was murdered. It just really pains my heart at how his family don't seem to give a damn about him.
 
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Maybe it's cuz of his race, because he's black, hence this irrational attitude, and I am aware of all the irrational backlash Blacks have undergone over the centuries, love black people. But they're human too, just like every single other race in this world. So, just cuz X or Y is of a certain race, that means nothing, it's often irrelevant to their actions. Jermaine expressed in a recent interview that he thinks Murray is the fall guy and "they" chose a black man to do the work. Hence, all this argumentation I'm making on race, maybe am speculating, don't know. But fall guy or not, that 'scapegoat' is still the Main culprit, unless he/ some Jackson family members come up with proof Murray had a gun directed to his head to be this terribly careless, money-loving person. Why can't they at least say "We believe he's been paid to do it (or sth along these lines), here are those we believe did it: *names them* / or we'll go to the police and give them our list, But that Still doesn't take away from the Fact that Michael died under that man's watch (inserts pers. note: he didn't even had 'one' - both medical monitoring equip and lied about not having a watch...)." ...

This is just sad, don't hate this family, but they're... 'restricted', for lack of a better immediate word, passive, clueless or... don't know. Brainwashed from early childhood, traumatized ( I realize that's the truth, La Toya, for instance, being physically and mentally abused by her former 'husband', an expert in gangstacking too). So, I can understand all this, but they have to do More, they gotta fight more, break away from their comfortable shells, something concrete... (excludes Michael's children from all of this....).

...sighs..
 
When they say he is the fall guy that doesn't mean he isn't guilty, that just means that they think others are involved and that it was intentional not an accident. They all said he was guilty before so I dot see what's the problem.
 
Alma said:
I realize that's the truth, La Toya, for instance, being physically and mentally abused by her former 'husband', an expert in gangstacking too.
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(As per LaToya's "Jack Gordon" claims, I don't believe them for a second.)

The Jacksons are having a problem taking any action regarding the supposed "OTHERS," but they don't have a problem filing lawsuit, after lawsuit, after lawsuit.

And thus far, in my opinion, the MOST noise any of them made came from the so-called "fake" Casico songs. They didn't have a problem putting the Casico's on blast, but when it comes to naming names as far as the OTHERS, all you hear is crickets!
 
StacyJ said:
Bravo!!!!!! I've never seen anything like it either.. Here she is thinking her brother was a victim of a murder conspiracy yet she is concentrating on being on television and getting on Celebrity apprentice. It baffles my mind how they are. The other sister is on tour laughing and grinning but her brother was murdered. It just really pains my heart at how his family don't seem to give a damn about him.
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Janet and LaToya still have to work to pay their bills. You nor anybody on this board knows them personally. So we can't say what they do or don't do behind the scenes.
 
chanel05 said:
Janet and LaToya still have to work to pay their bills. You nor anybody on this board knows them personally. So we can't say what they do or don't do behind the scenes.
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Yes we do. Behind the scene, they TRY and come with ways to CRACK Michael's Estate, so that Randy Jackson can be put in charge. LOL!
 
Justthefacts said:
fall guy
n. Slang 1. A scapegoat.
2. A gullible victim; a dupe.
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That still doesn't mean that they don't think he is guilty. It just eans that the jacksons think that he is like a "hit man". They got him to do the dirty work but others are involved that are guilty also,
 
Big Apple2 said:
Yes we do. Behind the scene, they TRY and come with ways to CRACK Michael's Estate, so that Randy Jackson can be put in charge. LOL!
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well that technically isn't behind the scenes since Randy spoke about it. N you still don't know what they do when they aren't in front of the camera, so don't act like you do.
 
Their comments are revolving more toward the conspiracy route - meaning Murray being, don't know.. 'made' to do it - , meaning in a way that Murray isn't that guilty as some make him out to be. Even clearer: "A fall guy is a person used as a scapegoat to take the blame for someone else's actions, or someone at the butt of jokes". Can't get any clearer than this, that's the meaning of 'fall guy', unless they soon will get clearer on what they meant, that's the term's definition. A puppet, really. So, one's inclined to view/treat a puppet (alleged puppet) more mildly, 'cause this means they were 'programmed' to do it. Still doesn't take away from the fact that the so-called dummy did the said activity... or the fact that he's a 57 year-old person. She did say 'murder', but the conspiracy comments - esp in light of Murray's trial - are music to his and his defense's ears and overshadowing Murray's direct wrongdoing. It's the way you're Wording your feelings/thoughts that makes a whole lot of difference and lasting impression.
 
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chanel05 said:
well that technically isn't behind the scenes since Randy spoke about it. N you still don't know what they do when they aren't in front of the camera, so don't act like you do.
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I ain't acting like anything. LOL!

The actions made by the Jackson family since the death of Michael speaks for themselves. LOUD & CLEAR!
 
Alma I agree... they should say he was paid to do it not just say the 'fall guy'.. what in the hell does the 'fall guy' even mean?
 
Justthefacts said:
Dammit woman if you really think there were other people involved get your ass off TV and do something about it. If you had you had proof turn it over to people who can do something with it. I mean dammit stop all of this talking your brother's dead for almost two years and you still running your damn mouth about the same thing. But have yet to do something about it. If the cops won't do nothing hire a damn PI and do your own investigation. Nothing put words that is all you have you are damn liar and if Murray you better not cut the fool about it because you said he was the fall guy and he should not be blamed. I have never seen a more ass backwards bunch of people in my life
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Right. It's been almost two YEARS! Not much, if anything, has changed. It's been mostly Joe and LaToya who go on tv and say "conspiracy! conspiracy!" But, nothing's changed (except that AEG lawsuit, of course, which seems to be going nowhere.).

IF there was a "conspiracy," as LaToya seems to believe, then what possible POINT is there to talking about it on tv? IF there is some sort of "evidence" that anyone in ADDITION to Murray was involved, then go to the police. If the police won't do anything or can't, then hire a P.I.

I'm not really sure what LaToya expects the "viewing public" to DO about "it," anyway? So, why go on tv at all, if "conspiracy" is what she really believes? Either she has "evidence," or she does not. If she does not, then shaddup! If she does, then go through every channel and down every avenue. And if not, why not?

Enough is enough.
 
Big Apple2 said:
(As per LaToya's "Jack Gordon" claims, I don't believe them for a second.)
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That is your choice... In many interviews from around that time, she seemed heavily drugged up, had slurred speech at some point, and her eyes were filmy. In a photo, she had a blue eye, too. Can't really totally defend her on this, because I think she herself wanted to break away from the family, but the above are clear testimonies that something was indeed off. And years of terror (for those who believe these claims) can mess up one's mind for good, God forbid we ever face the darkness so violently and directly. And in show business, that's a sick industry, everyone should know this. ..

Anyway, like I said before, more concreteness of a fight would really be indicated and long overdue... Michael's been gone for two years almost, true. ):
 
Autumn II said:
Right. It's been almost two YEARS! Not much, if anything, has changed. It's been mostly Joe and LaToya who go on tv and say "conspiracy! conspiracy!" But, nothing's changed (except that AEG lawsuit, of course, which seems to be going nowhere.).

IF there was a "conspiracy," as LaToya seems to believe, then what possible POINT is there to talking about it on tv? IF there is some sort of "evidence" that anyone in ADDITION to Murray was involved, then go to the police. If the police won't do anything or can't, then hire a P.I.

I'm not really sure what LaToya expects the "viewing public" to DO about "it," anyway? So, why go on tv at all, if "conspiracy" is what she really believes? Either she has "evidence," or she does not. If she does not, then shaddup! If she does, then go through every channel and down every avenue. And if not, why not?

Enough is enough.
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THANK YOU!

In my opinion, it's a very simple concept. Either Put Up OR Shut Up!
 
Big Apple2 said:
THANK YOU!

In my opinion, it's a very simple concept. Either Put Up OR Shut Up!
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You're welcome. IMHO it's absolutely POINTLESS for LaToya (or any other Jackson) to go to media and prattle on and on and on, about "conspiracy" without really saying ANYTHING. Or doing anything? So she has a "hunch?" "Hunches" do not hold up in court. . . .

Or, she could say, "In my OPINION, it was x and y and z who 'conspired.'" But, her crying wolf has not changed for nearly two YEARS, and I, for one, am tired of it, and literally disgusted by it. At this point, all that verbage does is weaken the case against Murray. Surely LaToya has ONE brain-cell in her head? Even ONE would help. . . . ? Surely she's not thinking of saying, "I will reveal ALL, but in a tell-all book?" Is that it? I certainly hope not. . . .

I really don't want to hear another word about it, without some sort of "backing it up." Or at least say, "I have no evidence at all. It's just a HUNCH." (and then STFU) It's truly a case, now, of defecate or remove oneself from the porcelain throne." And then shut UP.
 
chanel05 said:
well that technically isn't behind the scenes since Randy spoke about it. N you still don't know what they do when they aren't in front of the camera, so don't act like you do.
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having fun with their girlfriends and driving expensive cars, leaving their kids to Katherine to take care of them using MJ' kids and money...ummmm what else is on their busy sechdual, yeahhh tweeting BS all day and night !
 
Autumn II said:
You're welcome. IMHO it's absolutely POINTLESS for LaToya (or any other Jackson) to go to media and prattle on and on and on, about "conspiracy" without really saying ANYTHING. Or doing anything? So she has a "hunch?" "Hunches" do not hold up in court. . . .

Or, she could say, "In my OPINION, it was x and y and z who 'conspired.'" But, her crying wolf has not changed for nearly two YEARS, and I, for one, am tired of it, and literally disgusted by it. At this point, all that verbage does is weaken the case against Murray. Surely LaToya has ONE brain-cell in her head? Even ONE would help. . . . ? Surely she's not thinking of saying, "I will reveal ALL, but in a tell-all book?" Is that it? I certainly hope not. . . .

I really don't want to hear another word about it, without some sort of "backing it up." Or at least say, "I have no evidence at all. It's just a HUNCH." (and then STFU) It's truly a case, now, of defecate or remove oneself from the porcelain throne." And then shut UP.
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I agree. I find all the "conspiracy" talk straight up embarrassing and it does make her look crazy and paranoid. If she is so convinced that there are more people behind it than just Murray, she should hand this information over to the police. I honestly don't think she has any "proof" to back up her claims. If she had, we would have known about it by now. And her saying Murray was just the fall guy does imply that Murray shouldn't be blamed for Michael's death. That's what a fall guy is, a victim who is blamed for another person's actions. A scapegoat, really. It pisses me off when she says stuff like this. She might as well join Murray's defense team :smilerolleyes:
 
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers



Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
 
LaToya needs to stop with that nonsense. If she has names she needs to spit it out. Also if the police won't do anything then she, her parents and her siblings need to hire a PI and do something. They are all focusing on their careers instead of worrying about their murdered brother who was allegedly a victim of a murder conspriracy. If it was my brother I would be doing everything in my power to punish those culpable for his murder and my 'career' would be placed on the back burner.
 
Autumn II said:
Right. It's been almost two YEARS! Not much, if anything, has changed. It's been mostly Joe and LaToya who go on tv and say "conspiracy! conspiracy!" But, nothing's changed (except that AEG lawsuit, of course, which seems to be going nowhere.).

IF there was a "conspiracy," as LaToya seems to believe, then what possible POINT is there to talking about it on tv? IF there is some sort of "evidence" that anyone in ADDITION to Murray was involved, then go to the police. If the police won't do anything or can't, then hire a P.I.

I'm not really sure what LaToya expects the "viewing public" to DO about "it," anyway? So, why go on tv at all, if "conspiracy" is what she really believes? Either she has "evidence," or she does not. If she does not, then shaddup! If she does, then go through every channel and down every avenue. And if not, why not?

Enough is enough.
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Big Apple2 said:
THANK YOU!

In my opinion, it's a very simple concept. Either Put Up OR Shut Up!
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Autumn II said:
You're welcome. IMHO it's absolutely POINTLESS for LaToya (or any other Jackson) to go to media and prattle on and on and on, about "conspiracy" without really saying ANYTHING. Or doing anything? So she has a "hunch?" "Hunches" do not hold up in court. . . .

Or, she could say, "In my OPINION, it was x and y and z who 'conspired.'" But, her crying wolf has not changed for nearly two YEARS, and I, for one, am tired of it, and literally disgusted by it. At this point, all that verbage does is weaken the case against Murray. Surely LaToya has ONE brain-cell in her head? Even ONE would help. . . . ? Surely she's not thinking of saying, "I will reveal ALL, but in a tell-all book?" Is that it? I certainly hope not. . . .

I really don't want to hear another word about it, without some sort of "backing it up." Or at least say, "I have no evidence at all. It's just a HUNCH." (and then STFU) It's truly a case, now, of defecate or remove oneself from the porcelain throne." And then shut UP.
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:clapping::clapping::clapping:As though you read my mind..thank your for this post.
 
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