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Latoyas 1991 Book promotion and various interviews and statements

She gives the same reasons for writing her book of lies in 1991 as she does for her new book and the same excuses for remaining a victim of abuse back then as she does for her new book Its all too familair. seems She lies so easily and with such conviction. The media questioned her then with unbelief and they stil do today.


La Toya Jackson on The Phil Donahue Show 1991
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlVJX0JqCbc
Book Promotion
Latoya openly discusses her and Jacks marriage is in name only and she didnt love him right in front of him and shows no fear in stating that.If she didnt care about him how did he have control like she states if there was no emotional attachment? She states my family isnt speaking to me at the moment and why I cant really tell you ..people are stunned so then she says well maybe becuase of my book and she snickers


Terry Wogan interviews LaToya Jackson _ Does this sound familiar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjantrV4NUA

She is stating the same things as today to promote her new book. and old recipe served up on a new platter. Its takes time and courage all the victims need to start speaking up and help themselves you have to start telling people or you nor healing our curing yourself at all. Dont be ashame dont be afraid to speak out. MY book isnt for career or to make money its to help other vitims. Can you see nothing has changed just different people to accuse of unspeakable things.. Hmm maybe her friend and co partner Jeffrie will be served up on a platter for her next book

Gert Berg interviews Latoya Jackson Familair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbxi1XNgu0

Sound familiar_ here she also writes her book to help victims and she couldnt leave here either. She couldnt leave home she was captive. Joe would hunt her down. just as she said about Gordan. she only wrote this wrote book to help other abuse victims and part of proceed with go to children and abuse victims. katherine is worse then Joe for allowing Joe to sexually abuse rebbie then her .. joe was mentaly sick but her mom knew better *she snickers*

La Toya Jackson Tel Aviv press conference 1993 :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuoVcrPX13w

This was VERY damaging to Michael. I will never forgive or believe she was forced to make all the many hateful statement she made here and in many other interviews. If she said those things it was not becuase she was forced and had no other recourse. She just didnt have a conscience to begin with.

La Toya Jackson talks about Michael Jackson & LMP and continues to call MJ Pedo 1996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA5Lj-KRGto

Latoya discuss MJ & LMP breakup . She says MJ doesnt like women and he is a pedophile But has no specifics to give becuase she is fearful Michaels people will harm her for speaking. Its same thing she says aboout Gordon in her new book. then says She is just trying to save the poor abused kids. The interviewer chalenges Latoya and she becomes angry.(interesting) MJs publicise was contacted and made no comment just said they are not interested in what Latoya has to say. MJ was making a short film "They dont care about us at this time his heart must have been breaking. He was always so courageous to carry on in the face of adversity :(


There are many more interviews and vids you can watch from now and then and see a pattern.

Im not saying Jack Gordon wasnt abusive at all or didnt have some kind of power,She may have been abused to some extent but I believe she was a willing partner in MOST of this. As a victim of very physical and mental abuse myself there is nothing could make me make publicly make statements like that EVER. and I dont consider myself brave or courages I just have a conscience and Im not Evil. I feel Latoya had no conscience to begin with and was just easily manipulated into taking part for fame and attention. I say she She is not brave she is not a hero trying to rescuse the abused ..

She exagerates and tells lies so easily and with such conviction and I really belive she is still is doing the same things today Becuase of the many blatant exagerations and lies she is still spewing from her mouth. I just cant forgive or believe her and I dont think Michael truley made ammends with her at all. from what we can see He just tolerated her in what little he saw of her. Just as his family does. They do not support her or even mention her for that matter. This is Just my opinion and course I dont fault anyone for having thier own opinion which may differ from mine.

Is just all to familiar _ ANYTHING for Fame attention and MONEY
 
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Well, sure. LaToya does say some silly things. But do we really need a thread for this? There's already a bunch of LaToya threads where you can freely spew your hate against her. I don't really think we need another one. If you don't agree with her behaviour, I think it's just best to take your opinion and move on. *shrugs*

I'm not a LaToya supporter, but at the end of the day she was still Michael's sister and he forgave her after the incidents in the early 90's. I do think she was under complete control of her husband, and that's why she said those things. Otherwise, what sister would say such terrible words about their own flesh and blood? Michael and LaToya were very close in the late 70's and early 80's, I would think LaToya knew him better than some of their other siblings. So for me, her behaviour just doesn't match up with that period in the 90's. There were things going on in her life that she couldn't control - because nobody told her how to deal with them, sometimes its hard growing up one way and not knowing certain things - and I don't think she should be blamed for that.

However, what she's doing now is a bit more of a confusing story. I don't agree with it, but I don't agree with calling her names and cussing her out about it either. She doesn't have her head on straight at the moment, but I'm willing to wait and see where this goes.
 
My goodness. It is the same Latoya; she will never change. You marry someone for business and he is not really promoting you, so that can't be the reason. It is not for love and there is no great career management here, so why marry. Then, there is no fear from the way she talks openly in front of him about not loving him and not knowing his age. So why was this marriage done? Did she want someone to take care of her and then found out the person wouldn't? Did she want to get out of the house and was looking for an older man to help?

How do you stay in an abusive marriage when you are not in love, the person does not care about you, you are not afraid of him, and he is not doing anything for you. I wonder what he used to beat her up for. Did she ever say why he would hit her. I know some of them hit you when they are drunk, for control, you mess up the dinner, they don't like what you cook, men look at you, etc., but why did he hit her.

She appears in the interviews so carefree. Ms. I Do Not Care What You Think Latoya, so that part of me thinks that she wanted to get back or hurt certain members of her family for some reason. What that is i do no know.

I did not know that she spoke about his marriage. How painful that must have been for him. Michael forgave her so why does she continue to spew nonsense about his parenting styles even to day.
 
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God, it hurts to see the 1993 video...

The best thing to do, it's to send all these videos on twitter, to all the Jacksons, Paris included, like this they can see which evil and liar is LaTonta...
 
As I stated above This is Just my opinion and course I dont fault anyone for having thier own opinion which may differ from mine.
And yes I think we need this _ I havent seen a thread to compare then and now before. Im not spewing hate im just showing what see . I dont hate her I pity her and I dont like or trust her at all. I was willing .. but still to this day she hasnt changed. She is still caught in many lies and says the same things she said back then. The very same. things. So why is it considered the thruth this time as aposed to then. What has she done to show she has changed? Her own family doesnt mention or support any of it becuase they know its BS

And Im sorry but cant seriously reply to someone who is
saying the hateful discusting things Latoya stated about MJ was only SILLY things :(

Im making a comparison between then and now and I see much is still the same in her replies and her actions of why ?? She was over 35 yrs old when she called her brother a pedo and screamed she had to save the children from him. I hardly think she was incapable of not knowing right from wrong and yes I can too blame her for what she said and done for many years. These are very discusting harmful statementst she made about Katherine her siblins and Michael There was NOTHING SILLY and she hurt Michael very deeply in the media and personally.

This was not just a slip of the tongue or not knowing certain things becuase of how she grew up.

I also see no evidence where her and Michael ever really reconsiled .
He may have forgiven becuase thats his nature but I doubt he would ever trust her or bring her into his life again.
the first time they meet since the trial he is more or less forced to give her a disheartened hug becuase she initiated it in public. She follows him to his car and he then goes on his way with his children leaving her behind in a parking lot. The other was back stage at an event for a few minutes. She wasnt invited there either.

(That was 2 of 3 meeting she said she had with him) I dont think this is where he told her he was going to be murdered for his catalog. out of the blue "She states Michael told me many any times" _ thats a lie she hasnt seen him many many time to be told that so (she is still lying) and these are harmful lies not little white lies. and they grow. Her latest interview she says michael told me many times he wanted nothing to do with Branca. So when were these many many times again. She must not know MJ was workign with Branca since the trial. The only other time she saw Michael was at the family gathering May 2009. The whole family was there and not one of them mentions MJ stating such a thing there. Or that he was in peri for his life. They said he was happy and excited about embarking on his London venue. So did he pull Latoya aside ONLY to tell only her someone was out to kill him. I Dont think so. (The woman LIES ) about Michael her family and others for her own personal gain. I dont think there is anything SILLY about it.

SO Only she knows of 100's hateful notes MJ wote that she said she found in his room. No one else has ever reported these and all we know is Michael always wrote ONLY positive loving afirmations _ we have hundreds of them. The first report of notes found in his room after hs death stated only positive afirmations. She changes his whole legacy and what he stood for by making such Unprovable NEGATIVE statements about him. Nothing Latoya states about MJ can be proven and usually goes againts his KNOWN character. Some naive people say well she's his sister she knew him better. She did NOT she was never around him to know him. since mid 80's.

I take Michael's legacy to heart and dont want the truth tainted by her making up ridiculas and harmful things about him now .. some People are taking her serious. and think she is some kind of hero and courages for coming foward. mabey becuase they dont know her True History She has come forward times before shouting she was a victim and now she has seen the light and just wanst to help others.

If you want to believe what Latoya says thats you perogative
I chose not to for what i think are very good reasons
 
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It's not the point of knowing "what's right and what's wrong" when you're in an abusive relationship. It's the fact that that person will cause physical harm to you unless you do what they want you to do. LaToya had no choice, it was either go up there and say what Jack wanted her to say, or be at his mercy. Abusive relationships should not be taken lightly, and I truly do believe that LaToya was in a very serious one.

I just want to give her the benefit of the doubt, I really do. I like LaToya, I don't agree with everything that she's done but I think she's had a very confusing life. It can't have been easy growing up in the Jackson family, and while yes, some of the siblings have turned out more "normal" (Marlon, Rebbie), a lot of them have been left with a variety of problems. From what I've read and heard, nobody escaped the family mentality of "you're going into show business no matter what". I feel for her when she said she wanted to go to business school, but Joe pulled her out to make an album. Even Janet didn't want to be a singer.
 
You go ahead and give her th benfit of the doubt. For the rest of us thanks for the info Qbee
 
Well I just don't think we know the full story. And often there are valid reasons behind people's actions, whether it be a product of your childhood or a particularly traumatic event. I'm not saying that it's okay for LaToya to go on public television and say these things, but there could be things going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.
 
We don't need to know the full story to know that Latoya is what she is. There is no excuse for some of the things she has done none
 
Justthefacts said:
We don't need to know the full story to know that Latoya is what she is. There is no excuse for some of the things she has done none
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So would you say the same thing about Michael during the trial era, if you weren't a fan? Because the media and his OWN WORDS surely made him out to be something he wasn't. A lot of people truly thought he was guilty.

Don't judge unless you know the full story.
 
I have more common sense then to listen to the media. And maybe I missed something but where did Michael's indicate that he was guilty of anything? No has twisted anything Miss Jackson as said. And you know it. This is what you do to defend a and there fuckery you drag Michael into it? And you want to talk about words Michael look guilty lets talk about Latoya's words the ones that made him look guilty you want to go there?
 
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I have more common sense then to listen to the media. And maybe I missed something but where did Michael's indicate that he was guilty of anything? No has twisted anything Miss Jackson as said. And you know it. This is what you do to defend a and there fuckery you drag Michael into it? Fail
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I'm referring to LWMJ. There were a lot of things in there that Michael said and did that made him appear to be guilty of the charges, a lot of things I wish he worded differently and things I wish he didn't do at all. To someone that knew nothing about Michael as a person, it could appear to be something that it wasn't was, and in fact that's what sparked the trial.

My point is, you're so quick to drag LaToya through the mud and say - and I QUOTE - "I don't need to believe the full story to know what LaToya is" and people did the exact same to Michael throughout his entire career. It's entirely hypocritical of fans to do the same to his own sister, his own flesh and blood.

Like I said, I'm not a fan of LaToya. But I think there is more to the story, and like Michael, we shouldn't judge on what is only in the media.
 
Look guilty of what charges you tell me what charges were Michael up on when LWMJ was on TV? Was Michael ever on TV telling the big ass lies Latoya was telling? Latoya has done nothing but throw Michael under the bus to the point where she feels bad for the guy who caused his death. Now I would love to hear your excuse for that. And remember we are talking about Latoya not Michael
 
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Look guilty of what charges you tell me what charges were Michael up on when LWMJ was on TV? Was Michael ever on TV telling the big ass lies Latoya was telling? Latoya has done nothing but throw Michael under the bus to the point where she feels bad for the guy who caused his death. Now I would love to hear your excuse for that. And remember we are talking about Latoya not Michael
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I was simply calling you hypocritical for your statement, "We don't need to know the full story to know that Latoya is what she is." in light of Michael's situation. Which you are.

I was referring to the charges that came from LWMJ as a result.

As far as LaToya feeling "bad" for Murray, you've taken that out of context. She believes there was a grander scheme to murder Michael, and that Murray was simply the fall guy. In that sense, yes she can feel sorry for him if that is indeed true (which I don't think it is).

this board,,this is a MICHAEL JACKSON fan board...please dont try and defend LaToya and her bullshit stories here...she said what she said about Michael back then,,and she continues to talk shit about him....there are NO excuses for her....she just wants to sell books....and I for one would NOT give her ONE penny of my hard earned money to read anymore of her bullshit lies about Michael. So please take your defending attitude to a LaToya Jackson Fan forum....we SHOULD NEVER have to defend Michael HERE on this forum.
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Here we go....are we not on the part of a board that is DEVOTED to the Jackson family? I should think that I am allowed to like them and to defend them when need be.

You talk about me being a "supporter" as if that's a bad thing. Well gee, I didn't realise it wasn't okay to like Michael's own family. They may have done some questionable things in the past, but I don't believe in openingly hating them as some do on here. Honestly, I really think Michael would be disgusted. Yes, he knew what his family did to him. But at the end of the day, they're still his family and he still loved them.

Again, I don't agree with everything they've done. But I would never openingly hate a person for a situation that I don't know the full story about. I would never openingly hate a person full stop. That's just not the kind of person I am. *shrugs*
 
It is noble to want to give LaToya the benefit of the doubt.

The difference between Michael and Latoya is that Michael did not make it a habit to publically denounce or degrade anyone in his family. He never spoke about how LaToya had to be pretty messed up after all the abuse she suffered over the years and how that may have warped her personality and personal development. He did not pass judgement on why she was never able to attain the success she so craved. Never speculated that maybe the reason she never married was because ....

And yet in 2011 LaToya continues with this passive-aggressive sh*t! Michael is so wonderful, an angel but I would not have raised my children that way. Michael was a beautiful soul but he was so pathetically weak and paranoid. And on and on.

LaToya said herself she has never sought professional help for her issues and I feel she should. The cycle of abuse in her life (Joe, Gordon), the way she projects her personal dramas onto Michael suggest a woman in serious need of help.

I concede that may be stuff going on behind the scenes but does not excuse or totally explain La Toya's behaviour. And could we stop playing the family card!?
 
If you are going to defend Latoya then defend her but there is no need to trash Michael in the process which is something done quite often
 
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I was simply calling you hypocritical for your statement, "We don't need to know the full story to know that Latoya is what she is." in light of Michael's situation. Which you are.

I was referring to the charges that came from LWMJ as a result.

As far as LaToya feeling "bad" for Murray, you've taken that out of context. She believes there was a grander scheme to murder Michael, and that Murray was simply the fall guy. In that sense, yes she can feel sorry for him if that is indeed true (which I don't think it is).
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Even if you feel there is a bigger conspiracy here like it or not Murray caused the death of Michael. So there no excuse to feel sorry for him. And I took nothing out of context
 
And I feel I need to add that there are some members who take their dislike for the actions of the Jackson family to the extreme. They can do nothing right. And sometimes they can go too far.

That being said, it is equally tiresome when people keep defending the actions of some Jackson family members despite the glaring evidence of greed, selfishness and exploitation.

I feel we need to take each case/incident on its merit. We do not always have to condemn and we do not always have to pardon.
 
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Even if you feel there is a bigger conspiracy here like it or not Murray caused the death of Michael. So there no excuse to feel sorry for him. And I took nothing out of context
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I'm sorry but did you not read what I said? I said I didn't believe what LaToya was saying about the conspiracy. Oy vey, please read carefully!

Also, how am I trashing Michael? I was merely using his situation as an example to again, your quote about not needing to know the full story to dislike somebody. I never once said a bad word about Michael. Contrary to popular belief on this forum, I am actually a fan. I don't have to agree with everything Michael's done to be a fan, and you'd be pretty silly to think that Michael was a complete angel that did not wrong in his life. I see his mistakes, and they make him human to me. LWMJ was a mistake, he let himself be taken advantage of.

Again, I am not defending LaToya. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt because none of us know the full story. Once more, I DO NOT agree with what she's been saying on tv. I can't make that clear enough, can I?
 
And like I said before this thread is about Latoya's actions not LWMJ. And if you don't believe in a conspiracy we are not talking about you dear we are talking about Latoya and her actions. And who said anything about Michael being an angel? He had faults sure he did you are going out of your way to point them out in a thread about Latoya
 
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And like I said before this thread is about Latoya's actions not LWMJ. And if you don't believe in a conspiracy we are not talking about you dear we are talking about Latoya and her actions. And who said anything about Michael being an angel? He had faults sure he did you are going out of your way to point them out in a thread about Latoya
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Please do not be condescending towards me. It's really invalidating everything you're trying to say.

Again, I brought up Michael to show you that your comment was hypocritical, and I see it being used a lot against the Jackson family. Then you asked me to explain that, which I did by mentioning LWMJ. So in fact, Michael is in this conversation because you asked me to explain something. *shrugs*
 
TheChosenOne said:
And I feel I need to add that there are some members who take their dislike for the actions of the Jackson family to the extreme. They can do nothing right. And sometimes they can go too far.

That being said, it is equally tiresome when people keep defending the actions of some Jackson family members despite the glaring evidence of greed, selfishness and exploitation.

I feel we need to take each case/incident on its merit. We do not always have to condemn and we do not always have to pardon.
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Yes I have to agree with your posts..there are those member that can say nothing nice at all about ANY of the Jackson's in general...i sure am glad that i am not one of them...I actually have respect for Jackie...maybe Tito..and I love...Prince Paris and Blanket Jackson. The rest...meh...I dont hate them...i just dont like them. It is just terrible the way Michael's name always get dragged into their conversations...always on the negative to...just terrible for a family that has lived off of him for so long to continually put him down. ..sad
 
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we know that you are a Jackson family supporter...all we have to do is go look in every Jackson thread on this board,,this is a MICHAEL JACKSON fan board...please dont try and defend LaToya and her bullshit stories here...she said what she said about Michael back then,,and she continues to talk shit about him....there are NO excuses for her....she just wants to sell books....and I for one would NOT give her ONE penny of my hard earned money to read anymore of her bullshit lies about Michael. So please take your defending attitude to a LaToya Jackson Fan forum....we SHOULD NEVER have to defend Michael HERE on this forum.
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Thunder please be more careful when replying
You are in the wrong here and it is against our rules to personally attack another member or tell them they cant support the Jackson in The MJJC 2300 forum The Jackon family forum . We dont not attack or tell people they cant have an opinion that differes from ours or that support the Jackson's so Please dont reply like that. Dont attack other members for thier view you can disagree with thier view and show your points that rebuttle thiers .. but you dont attack someone or tell them they shouldnt post here THATS against our rules so Please stay on topic and dicuss the topic not each other ...

Thanks for your cooperation
 
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kindofdisco said:
Please do not be condescending towards me. It's really invalidating everything you're trying to say.

Again, I brought up Michael to show you that your comment was hypocritical, and I see it being used a lot against the Jackson family. Then you asked me to explain that, which I did by mentioning LWMJ. So in fact, Michael is in this conversation because you asked me to explain something. *shrugs*
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If you think I am condescending towards you too bad. You bought Michael up because it is all you ever do. When someone has an issue with the Jackson family you always drag Michael's name into it to defend them. Like it or not there is no defending some of the shit they have done. Latoya Jackson is a liar has been caught and big ass lies and yet you and people like you have excuses for her.
 
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qbee said:
I was going to delete this for an infraction of MJJC rules but I think this needs a addressed

Thunder please be more careful when replying
You are in the wrong here and it is against our rules to personally attack another member or tell them they cant support the Jackson in The MJJC 2300 forum The Jackon family forum . We dont not attack or tell people they cant have an opinion that differes from ours or that support the Jackson's so Please dont reply like that. Dont attack other members for thier view you can disagree with thier view and show your points that rebuttle thiers .. but you dont attack someone or tell them they shouldnt post here THATS against our rules so Please stay on topic and dicuss the topic not each other ...

Thanks for your cooperation
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If you want to give me an infraction for defending Michael then please go ahead....i see what you are saying about attacking another member....and for that i am sorry....BUT...I will not stand by on a Michael Jackson fan board and see another poster stick up for the very people that trash Michael on a daily bases..atleast whenever they have a microphone infront of there faces. Yes the other poster is entitled to there opinion ..but so am I....since when did we have to defend Michael HERE..on HIS own forum..a forum that GAZ has had for 12 years FOR Michael Jackson...NOT LaToya....no disrespect to you at all,,,,But please do what you feel you must do...atleast I KNOW that I got an infraction for defending Michael.
 
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If you think I am condescending towards you too bad. You bought Michael up because it is all you ever do. When someone has an issue with the Jackson family you always drag Michael's name into it to defend them. Like it or not there is no defending some of the shit they have done. Latoya Jackson is a liar has been caught and big ass lies and yet you and people like you have excuses for her.
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I'm sorry but "too bad" is a very childish and inappropriate response. I have tried being civil with you to explain my opinion, but you are constantly attacking me and claiming that I'm apparently "always" dragging Michael's name into it. I "dragged" Michael into this conversation to show that your statement was extremely hypocritical in light of what Michael was percieved to be by thousands of people during the trial, and still thousands do believe.

I do not have "excuses" for LaToya. I have stated SEVERAL times now that I am not a fan, and I do NOT agree with what she's been saying. I was simply stating that I, myself - in my OWN opinion - would like to give her the benefit of the doubt, because we don't know the full story.

I am not a hateful person. I love Michael and his family, despite all of the things they may have done in the past. If you can't accept than, then you need to move on and stop attacking me. This forum is for people who LIKE the Jacksons. And I happen to appreciate their talents.

If you want to give me an infraction for defending Michael then please go ahead....i see what you are saying about attacking another member....and for that i am sorry....BUT...I will not stand by on a Michael Jackson fan board and see another poster stick up for the very people that trash Michael on a daily bases..atleast whenever they have a microphone infront of there faces. Yes the other poster is entitled to there opinion ..but so am I....since when did we have to defend Michael HERE..on HIS own forum..a forum that GAZ has had for 12 years FOR Michael Jackson...NOT LaToya....no disrespect to you at all,,,,But please do what you feel you must do...atleast I KNOW that I got an infraction for defending Michael.
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You're acting like I've just decided to give LaToya an award for talking crap about her brother or something, haha! Yet again, I wasn't defending what she was saying. All I stated was that I was giving her the benefit of the doubt, because AGAIN, we don't know the full story.

Please do not take my posts to the extreme to suit your own needs and get up in arms about Michael.
 
What a pathetic human being she is. The fact that MJ forgave her, if he ever did that, only shows what kind of person he was.
 
Even though michael may have not be perfect it would have been nice to see the jackson family showing repesct to michael now in death. When michael died i thought they would wake up & realise now is the time to show their respect for michael but i guess they just dont care at all.
 
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What a pathetic human being she is. The fact that MJ forgave her, if he ever did that, only shows what kind of person he was.
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See, it's stuff like this that makes me upset. Why would you say that about another person? Regardless of who they are? That's really quite horrible. It makes me sad.
 
We know you are not a fan of Latoya you have told us that over and over. I could care less about what "thousands" of people believe. And so you know Latoya is a big reason why "thousands" of people believe what they believe
 
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