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His humour is that he shows us just how stupid we as humans be can be... sometimes it's funny, sometimes like this it's just shameful and i cant laugh because the people actually believe what theyre saying/doing :(
 
StarSecret said:
His humour is that he shows us just how stupid we as humans be can be... sometimes it's funny, sometimes like this it's just shameful and i cant laugh because the people actually believe what theyre saying/doing :(
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Same here. Some satire is so shockingly revealing that it's impossible to laugh, you can only gasp. This scene is like that; I most definitely did not laugh. I gasped with my hand on my mouth. Borat was often like that as well.

Sacha is not necessarily interested in making people laugh.
 
People say Latoya's gullible and naive. I see this and believe it. She's just too nice. Paula was outta there with a quickness, look how long Latoya hung around that foolishness. That explains a lot about why that con-artist of a husband she had was able to convince her to do such horrible things.
 
lifeismagical said:
People say Latoya's gullible and naive. I see this and believe it. She's just too nice.
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Folks, please, you're missing the entire point. There's nothing "nice" about treating Mexican laborers as if they're furniture. It's sick and dehumanizing. A decent person would have immediately refused to sit on a human being and walked out -- that's far more important than being "nice" to the host. :doh:

The point is that character should be more important than fawning before celebrities -- LaToya wasn't being "nice," she was fawning before someone she thought was a celebrity... And in so doing, was willing to treat other people inhumanely, and throw away her own ethics. The fact that show business is riddled with this was the point of the movie.

I'm not a La Toya hater; I just think it's important people understand the point of this film.
 
Bo G said:
Folks, please, you're missing the entire point. There's nothing "nice" about treating Mexican laborers as if they're furniture. It's sick and dehumanizing. A decent person would have immediately refused to sit on a human being and walked out -- that's far more important than being "nice" to the host. :doh:

The point is that character should be more important than fawning before celebrities -- LaToya wasn't being "nice," she was fawning before someone she thought was a celebrity... And in so doing, was willing to treat other people inhumanely, and throw away her own ethics. The fact that show business is riddled with this was the point of the movie.

I'm not a La Toya hater; I just think it's important people understand the point of this film.
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Have you never heard about BODY.sushi? It's normally done with a model type of girl, La Toya is eating the sushi even though it's this man.. I think that shows that she has manners actually... she didn't walk out because the guy looked.. err different from what you would expect being served body sushi..
 
by the way.. there's no doubt La Toya is acting in this scene.. don't you think she has had people try to steel away michael's number before? She might be innocent and naive, but she has lived her whole life as Michael's sister, don't forget that.. and giving her phone to him... she HAS to know.. don't underestimate people that much...
 
mysterygirl7 said:
Have you never heard about BODY.sushi? It's normally done with a model type of girl, La Toya is eating the sushi even though it's this man.. I think that shows that she has manners actually... she didn't walk out because the guy looked.. err different from what you would expect being served body sushi..
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Yes, I've heard of it, and it's considered dehumanizing as well.

You didn't mention sitting on the men's backs. That's OK with you too? Good manners?
 
Bo G said:
Yes, I've heard of it, and it's considered dehumanizing as well.

You didn't mention sitting on the men's backs. That's OK with you too? Good manners?
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Why do you say "That's OK with you too?" I haven't said that I like body sushi.. actually I would never have it, I think it's sick nomatter if the person is mexican or german..

It's a message board here, you don't have to be rude to me, just because I point out that body sushi is rather normal amongst certain rich people..

Sitting on their bags.. I don't even have an oppinion on that.. this person Bruno just tries to provoke all the time.. that's why he's not funny but a waste of time really...
 
By the way my 2nd post in this thread, was not directed towards you Bo G, it was to everyone.. All I did post to you, was the explanation about Body Sushi, if you had never heard about it..
 
CampbellzSoup said:
How is that insightful? Laytoya could have said "no these are people I refuse to sit on them."
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It's the REVIEW that was insightful; thus the link. You're 100% right, she absolutely SHOULD have said no, which is why the interview called her actions "shameful."

Finally, the first real live person here who actually agrees with my apparently utterly unique viewpoint. Triple sigh.
 
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Draliongirl said:
ahahha, i loved it, it was all arranged though,
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See the Guardian review, I've posted it below. It was not all arranged. It was not scripted -- Sacha was pranking La Toya. It is what he does. He's famous for pranking people, and has built his career on doing this.
 
Steve Rose
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 17 June 2009 (updaed 13 July)

Brüno review: Sacha Baron Cohen's film premieres in London
3 out of 5

Sacha Baron Cohen's Borat made pranking Americans look like shooting fish in a barrel; Brüno targets the same barrel, but this time the fish have got a little wiser. This is essentially the same movie as its predecessor with a different comic persona, but where Borat's charming naivety caught Americans with their guard down, Brüno's screaming campness often raises their defences.

1. Bruno
2. Production year: 2009
3. Country: USA
4. Cert (UK): 18
5. Runtime: 82 mins
6. Directors: Larry Charles
7. Cast: Clifford Banagale, Gustaf Hammarsten, Sacha Baron Cohen
8. More on this film

In addition, people now know who Baron Cohen is and how he works. As a result it looks like they've had to work harder to get the material.

The smash-and-grab public stunts are noticeably shorter - there's sadly nothing to match Borat's astounding naked wrestling scene, though there is something similar. And the "story" linking them together is even flimsier.

Brüno is fired from his Austrian television fashion show Funkyzeit after hijacking a show with his new Velcro jumpsuit, and so heads to the US to become "the most famous Austrian since Hitler".

As you'd expect, Brüno charges, or rather minces, into some of the least advisable situations imaginable - attempting to seduce a confused Republican congressman Ron Paul, telling a gayness-curing evangelist he has "blowjob lips", parading through an ultra-orthodox area of Jerusalem in Hasidic-inspired hotpants (if there's one thing Brüno does that Borat can't, it's costume).

And again, he lures the unsuspecting into shameful acts - getting Latoya Jackson to eat sushi off a naked Mexican gardener, for example (a scene later cut when Latoya's brother Michael died), or gaining showbiz moms' consent to dress their children as Nazis.

Beneath the idiocy, Baron Cohen is also a politically astute agent who's devised an ingenious way to confront and expose serious social issues - and indulge his own exhibitionism.

Brüno is funniest, though, when it's at its most politically incorrect, especially when it comes to homosexuality. There's an eye-popping montage of extreme gay sex practices (imaginary, one hopes), a surfeit of waving penises, dildos, fetish gear, anal bleaching, and an excruciating mime in which Brüno fellates the ghost of a deceased member of Milli Vanilli in front of a psychic.

Much of it is unavoidably hilarious, but is he lampooning homophobia or perpetuating it?

Either way, he gets away with a great deal simply by being a brilliant physical comedian. That should stand him in good stead.

His star has risen to such an extent, it's unlikely he'll be able to make this type of undercover comedy again. Nor will he need to.

• This article was amended on 13 July 2009. The original review referred to the initial version of Bruno released before Michael Jackson's death, a version with a scene involving Latoya Jackson. This has been clarified.
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While thousands of Michael Jackson fans have flocked to movie theaters to see the limited-run engagement of his "This Is It" concert film, several of his family members, including sisters Janet and LaToya, have yet to see the flick. However, LaToya said she's comforted by the support the family has received in the wake of Michael's death this past summer.

"I didn't see the movie yet," she told MTV News on the red carpet of the Us Weekly "Hot Hollywood" event in Los Angeles on Wednesday night. "I'm not ready to see it just yet. It's a bit too much for me right now."

But she did elaborate on the fan response to the film, which has grossed more than $200 million across the globe.

"Well, you know, it's so interesting that he is so loved by everyone in the world," she said. "You just enjoy the fact that people love him so much just in every country. And the things that you read and hear, it makes you feel good inside to know he was your brother and that people loved him that much."

The outpouring of love, however, comes at a very bittersweet time for the Jackson family, since Michael isn't around to see it all for himself.

"I just wish that he could have been here to see it," she said. "I think it's compounded a bit more now that he's not here. I know he's watching."


Source: MTV US
 
MAYBE she possibly knew? I remember when he was filming this movie all the blogger sites and gossip sites had him dressed up in the Bruno outfit doing his pranks. So maybe, possibly, someone informed her? And 555 isn't a real prefix, all movies use it since it's a "safe number". So it's not Michaels number
 
ElleBella said:
MAYBE she possibly knew? I remember when he was filming this movie all the blogger sites and gossip sites had him dressed up in the Bruno outfit doing his pranks. So maybe, possibly, someone informed her? And 555 isn't a real prefix, all movies use it since it's a "safe number". So it's not Michaels number
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Yes, and MAYBE all the other people in all his movies knew too and all were faking and the entire world has been pranked by a conspiracy of all of them against Bruno...

...or maybe it's just as everyone says it is. Including, implicitly, La Toya, who has never defended herself and been mum. If she knew those men were actors, she most certainly would have wasted no time saying so.

Let's try to be a little more logical here, and not try to change the facts to fit a desired outcome.

That was Bruno reading the number 555, and he said it in German so La Toya didn't know what digits he was calling out.
 
I'm not trying to change the outcome. I'm just stating facts, he was photographed all over in his Bruno outfit. Doubt it was staged, but it could have been a possibility. No need to get so defensive against people who do not agree with you. I was responding to another comment about the number.
Bo G said:
Yes, and MAYBE all the other people in all his movies knew too and all were faking and the entire world has been pranked by a conspiracy of all of them against Bruno...

...or maybe it's just as everyone says it is. Including, implicitly, La Toya, who has never defended herself and been mum. If she knew those men were actors, she most certainly would have wasted no time saying so.

Let's try to be a little more logical here, and not try to change the facts to fit a desired outcome.

That was Bruno reading the number 555, and he said it in German so La Toya didn't know what digits he was calling out.
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Sorry, I'm frustrated, Elle Bella. For weeks, this thread has sat here and been viewed by hundreds, and not one person has said, Wow those poor Mexican laborers! If it's true she wasn't acting, that would be awful of her! (Well, until CambellzSoup appeared today) .

Instead everyone's rushing to her defense, and I'm frankly rather shocked. So you're on the tail end of a long line of defenders, and it's hard being one against a bunch. I was speaking to the whole group here, really, not just you. I started out trying to very gently lead people into a more progressive way of viewing this, to no avail, so have become gradually more blunt.
 
Bo G.. maybe you will be able to sleep, if I point out to you that:

Thomas Rosales Jr. of El Pase Texas, (not mexico - sorry) who plays the gardener/mexican furniture is an actor / stuntman and has appeared in countless action films, actually he has played in 155 different movies, ok?

Robert Huerta who plays a gadener/mexican furniture has appeared in 6 different movies, has done stunts in 1 movie, and has worked on 2 other movies as crew.

Gilbert Rosales, born in El Paso Texas, sorry he is not even mexican, has appeared as a stuntman in 42 different movies, and has acted in 22 movies, and is currently filming stunts for another movie called The Green Hornet.

Marco Xavier, has with the Bruno movie done 2 movies all in all, - another actor.

Toby Hoguin is only credited for the Bruno movie.

Check your sources another time.

Actually I don't know who are more extreme, Bruno or some of the Americans that are featured in this movie..
 
mysterygirl7 said:
Bo G.. maybe you will be able to sleep, if I point out to you that:

Thomas Rosales Jr. of El Pase Texas, (not mexico - sorry) who plays the gardener/mexican furniture is an actor / stuntman and has appeared in countless action films, actually he has played in 155 different movies, ok?

Robert Huerta who plays a gadener/mexican furniture has appeared in 6 different movies, has done stunts in 1 movie, and has worked on 2 other movies as crew.

Gilbert Rosales, born in El Paso Texas, sorry he is not even mexican, has appeared as a stuntman in 42 different movies, and has acted in 22 movies, and is currently filming stunts for another movie called The Green Hornet.

Marco Xavier, has with the Bruno movie done 2 movies all in all, - another actor.

Toby Hoguin is only credited for the Bruno movie.

Check your sources another time.

Actually I don't know who are more extreme, Bruno or some of the Americans that are featured in this movie..
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Oh my goodness... I KNOW they were actors! La Toya DIDN'T! It was a HOAX! In HER eyes, they were OBJECTS. Not to Sacha -- he was working with these men as respectable employees; together they worked to expose people who think of Mexican laborers as objects. WHAT is so complicated about this, people? Quadruple sigh.
 
who, chill out people. it's just a movie!!!! aren't there more productive things to do than agrue on a forum?! lol
 
For someone who seems to find this scene repulsive and obviously can't stand La Toya herself, you sure do love coming back into this thread time and time again, Bo G. You're obviously so wrapped up in trying to paint La Toya as some sort of heartless, brainless idiot that you contradict yourself and say that she was both humiliated and delighted with the scene.

Bo G said:
She's obviously utterly delighted with the whole scene.
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Bo G said:
She was not acting, and is humiliated by this.
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Make your mind up. Unless you have actually been sent a copy of the film script, which I doubt, then who are you to say it wasn't scripted? Even if it isn't word for word in the script, doesn't mean it wasn't discussed beforehand. If you were familiar with the way the Guardian operates then you would know they are not exactly reliable. Especially when it comes to the Jackson family. SBC works on improvisation and reaction. That's what he does. Infact I'd say it's more likely than anything that La Toya was told 'look we're gonna do a bit of improv here, go along with it' rather than given a word for word script of what to say and do. Regardless, much of Cohen's films and shows are totally scripted and planned, even sometimes when it seems like he's making fun of people, they are in on the joke (case in point when he interviewed the Beckhams as Ali G). If the scene really bothers you to the point that you have to resort to being rude to others just to get your point across (suggesting mysterygirl7 is unstable and telling her to 'remove herself') then maybe you'd do better to simply stay away from any threads discussing the film or La Toya herself.
 
Adore said:
For someone who seems to find this scene repulsive and obviously can't stand La Toya herself, you sure do love coming back into this thread time and time again, Bo G. You're obviously so wrapped up in trying to paint La Toya as some sort of heartless, brainless idiot that you contradict yourself and say that she was both humiliated and delighted with the scene.
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Adore, I haven't even finished reading your post, but already here I must stop, quote, and applaud !!

:clapping: :clapping:
 
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