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Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25 Interview Post 208

Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

ENOUGH with all of this. Stop attacking one another and stop spitting venom. There is a difference between being outraged and expressing this and totally tearing a person down by your words. This is not necessary.

Watch how you say things. This won't be said again before action is taken. I know all of you know the difference, you just choose not to follow what has been asked of you.

I read about this elsewhere and there were very strong words of disagreement over what Katherine did without the whole thread sounding like a hate fest. That is what needs to happen here. That is what will happen here.

I hope I am understood. I am also moving this to 2300.

Thank you.

Also anyone bringing up what Katherine said before and fussing about what she did and did not do that is totally unrealated to this will get infractioned. I'm sick of this going on in every single thread about virtually every family member. Stay on topic.
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

Wonder how many contracts she is willing to sign for all the Jaffars and Jermajesty's binding them to porn guys, my guess is none. But I guess as long as she is only binding Michael's kids, it doesn't matter guess she and her dozen of lazy grown/middle aged children she's got believe in 'the ends justify the means' well newsflash to those jacksons that is not how it works
 
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First of: Robin whatever her surname is one of the fakest people ever..... Her sucking up to the children is nauseating.

Second:... Michael's children are making me cry... God bless those wonderful children and guard them from the dangers around them. ..

Third: don't wanna panic yet again. I'll just say that I believe from the heart that Michael is watching over his angels. That's not desperate wishful thinking, his spirit is in them. .. Not gonna add anything more on this until I watch the interview, sick and tired with negativity. Won't live in a pink floating bubble, but will choose to keep the babies in prayers always. They don't need more negativity going on, just prayers and love their way, positive energy. ..

And may God enlighten Katherine's mind. She needs enlightment. ...
 
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Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

I have to say I am completely disgusted with what it Katherine has done...she has gone way to far now...all in the name of money??? I am happy to see that the children to well and healthy...they are beautiful children..they are smart and articulate..just the way Michael raised them.. It breaks my heart to see them being exploited the way they are...I am so proud that they wan to carry on with what it was Michael was doing. The t-shirts are for that fake charity...yes??...God please be with these children.
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

Diana Ross would have done a better job, IMO.

P.S. As always, seeing the children makes me smile. Paris is such a tomboy in that video. I love her.
 
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Also anyone bringing up what Katherine said before and fussing about what she did and did not do that is totally unrealated to this will get infractioned
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How are her past actions irrelevant to this thread when all this is connected to Howard Mann? And how she is jumping at everything Mann, dragging Michael's children further into the mess, that's obviously only hers. You think silencing is the answer for this? You may be able to stop people write what they think on this board by threatening with infractions, that however doesn't stop people, being disappointed and even disgusted by Katherine Jackson and her actions, you may control this board but you do not control the minds. Prior to this issue Katherine Jackson was viewed as some kind of a saint rarely questioned nor criticized, whatever backlash, disgust, disappointment she's gotten she brought it on all by herself.
I'm not going to argue with you or any other mod about this any further, but in my honest opinion, the approach you guys have taken toward this thread is wrong.
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

Isnt it only a matter of time before they push those 3 kids into some Disney Show
especially Paris who seem to like acting,
their next move is gonna be taking those kids to a lot of auditions.
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

twinklEE said:
How are her past actions irrelevant to this thread when all this is connected to Howard Mann? And how she is jumping at everything Mann, dragging Michael's children further into the mess, that's obviously only hers. You think silencing is the answer for this? You may be able to stop people write what they think on this board by threatening with infractions, that however doesn't stop people, being disappointed and even disgusted by Katherine Jackson and her actions, you may control this board but you do not control the minds. Prior to this issue Katherine Jackson was viewed as some kind of a saint rarely questioned nor criticized, whatever backlash, disgust, disappointment she's gotten she brought it on all by herself.
I'm not going to argue with you or any other mod about this any further, but in my honest opinion, the approach you guys have taken toward this thread is wrong.
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I will go on record and write, Katherine Jackson is far worst than Joe Jackson.

Not only is she greedy, but she fooled a 50 year old man into thinking she was mother Theresa.

I am happy to see finally MOST INTELLIGENT & RATIONAL people are able to see this farce for what it is.

MJ might have been fooled, but obviously, he wasn't stupid, I wish I could say the same for others.
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

Its lovely to see the kids continuing their dad's charity work, always a blessing to see. But the whole Howard Mann thing, I just pray that the kids are being looked out for by the right people.
 
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I am so happy to see the kids do so well and be involved in charities. Michael would be so proud. The kids are amazing and I love them dearly.

Having said that, I am horrified that the charity they are involved in is a fake one!!!! I will wait till tomorrow hoping that it's some kind of misunderstanding and they are wearing old t-shirts from Michael's real charity. If it turns out to be indeed Melissa Johnson's "company", it will be such a disgrace.
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

twinklEE said:
How are her past actions irrelevant to this thread when all this is connected to Howard Mann? And how she is jumping at everything Mann, dragging Michael's children further into the mess, that's obviously only hers. You think silencing is the answer for this? You may be able to stop people write what they think on this board by threatening with infractions, that however doesn't stop people, being disappointed and even disgusted by Katherine Jackson and her actions, you may control this board but you do not control the minds. Prior to this issue Katherine Jackson was viewed as some kind of a saint rarely questioned nor criticized, whatever backlash, disgust, disappointment she's gotten she brought it on all by herself.
I'm not going to argue with you or any other mod about this any further, but in my honest opinion, the approach you guys have taken toward this thread is wrong.
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This is not a thread to say Katherine never cared for MJ; Katherine called MJ's nose this and that; Katherine should of stood up for MJ if she thought he was sick; She called him an addict; etc. The same kind of stuff that gets posted in every thread about a family member even if that has nothing to do with the thread at hand.

How many comments have been about Howard Mann and his dealings with this charity? Are they all still here? Yes! Even Ivy spoke about and I even asked about it. So, no THAT is not off topic and nothing has been said about that at all. What will not be allowed is the kind of venomous personal attacks some people think they are entitled to make without any regard for anyone else and I am personally sick of it. From what you yourself quoted that were my words, I said anyone bringing Katherine's past actions that were unrelated to this would be infractioned.

I am giving a preemptive warning before that starts as I did have to already delete that kind of thing so that people will not be surprised if they continue in that cord, when they are infractioned.

And you can think what you like, no one said you could not. We even say you can post what you like as long as it is within limits of the board. You know very well that the attempt to try to maintain some civility is not a personal attack on the opinions of anyone who disappointed at what Katherine did.

And whether you agree with it or not, it still stands as before: Everyone needs to stay on topic and everyone needs to be respectful of each other and their opinions, even if you do not agree.

Thank you. And if I was not clear before, I hope everyone can now understand what I mean.
 
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Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

I'm really sorry but my respect for Katherine Jackson is officially out of the window.

I just pray that the kids are being looked out for by the right people.
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Unfortunately it doesn't look like it.
 
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I don't believe it's a "misunderstanding" at all. I'm sure Katherine Jackson and her porn partner want us all to believe this FAKE charity is associated with Michael, only because it's called "Heal The World."

If I'm not mistaken, Michael's "Heal The World Foundation" has been out of business for several years now.

In my opinion, Katherine Jackson and Howard Mann are TRYING to fool folks into believing this IS Michael's charity foundation. So even if the children were not involved, this would STILL be disturbing. Wasn't trying to fool us with that FAKE song (a la Howard Mann), bad enough!
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

ivy said:
this isn't about the kids and their contribution to the society. that's good.

but there's a huge wrong happening here.

This charity is created by a woman who believes that she's chosen (by God I guess) to help Michael with his charity work. She stalked him and his staff and has been physically removed from Neverland. Michael's business team went to court to get the trademarks she had registered back and signed a document with her saying that she's not representing Michael and Michael didn't chose her or asked her to do anything in his name. A few years later she resurrected Heal the World with listing Michael as a chairman and fooled people to donate money to her after Michael's death (people thought this was Michael's charity). Estate is now suing her for that fraud and using Michael's trademarks.

Katherine's business partner happens to be a porn producer who bought Michael's private stuff (which Michael filed 2 lawsuits against) and had signed a business contract with Katherine binding MJ's kids to make promotional appearances.

and that's the problem here.
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Thank you for the clarity of your post. I'm sure that Michael instilled in his children that they would have a life of service, as the children of many of the super-wealthy choose to do. That is not the POINT. The point is, as Ivy stated, this is a bogus charity, and this is a "promotional appearance" by the children, just as that outrageous non-contract between Mann and Katherine stated.

There were many legitimate charities that Michael supported. I do take exception to the children being put before the public at such a young age, but if they are to support charities, those charities should be well-established and those to which Michael already donated, and that he supported.

This is an outrageous USE of the children. Where is their guardian ad litem (sp?) in all of this! WHO is looking out for the children's well-being? ANYONE?
 
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Autumn II said:
There were many legitimate charities that Michael supported. I do take exception to the children being put before the public at such a young age, but if they are to support charities, those charities should be well-established and those to which Michael already donated, and that he supported.
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Thank you and if this is all on the "up & up," then why not include ALL of the (available) grandchildren.

Why putting ONLY the high-profile grandchildren on DISPLAY? And that's exactly what she's doing, she's putting those dear children on DISPLAY for financial gain.

I ask the question, but I KNOW clearly why she chose to put only MJ-3 on display and if she thinks we don't know "what time it is," she has another thing coming!
 
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Autumn II said:
Thank you for the clarity of your post. I'm sure that Michael instilled in his children that they would have a life of service, as the children of many of the super-wealthy choose to do. That is not the POINT. The point is, as Ivy stated, this is a bogus charity, and this is a "promotional appearance" by the children, just as that outrageous non-contract between Mann and Katherine stated.

There were many legitimate charities that Michael supported. I do take exception to the children being put before the public at such a young age, but if they are to support charities, those charities should be well-established and those to which Michael already donated, and that he supported.

This is an outrageous USE of the children. Where is their guardian ad litem (sp?) in all of this! WHO is looking out for the children's well-being? ANYONE?
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The guardian ad litem HAS NO SAY in how the kids are beying raised. She is only responsible for their financial welfare.

Only a judge can change things now.



Take a minute...and write to GMA. Let's not just complain about it with other fans. The media are complacent to the kids' exploitation, the same way they were of Michael's abuse through the years.

Fans who bought Katherine Jackson's book shoudl send it back to Howard Mann.
 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

It would seem Katherine is unable to keep from mixing child exploitation in with her child rearing. To Katerine they are one and the same; and, yes, it is sad.
God bless and protect Michael Jackson's children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket. Make them strong and intelligent.:angel:
By the way, Prince, Paris, and Blanket seem to have learned they must always keep thier guard up.
That was a good lesson to learn.
 
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Could fans contact the Jackson family and ask them directly but respectfully and I'd like to highlight Respectfully what is going on via twitter, I'm guessing that way it would give them the chance to explain and would highlight the fan community's doubts.
 
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Memefan said:
The guardian ad litem HAS NO SAY in how the kids are beying raised. She is only responsible for their financial welfare.

Only a judge can change things now.

Take a minute...and write to GMA. Let's not just complain about it with other fans.
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Absolutely. Contact GMA.

For a judge to "change things," there must be a complaint, from someone looking out for the children's well-being (emotional, and not just financial). IS there? Probably not. .

The children really wouldn't have a choice in this, and probably don't know that the charity is bogus, anyway. So, this is WRONG, on so many levels. Howard Mann is a porn producer who essentially stole items from Michael. The contract (so-called) that he and Katherine signed calls for exactly appearances such as these, where the kids will be "produced" in public venues. The contact itself is subject of an on-going lawsuit.

If the children are going to be hauled before the public at such a young age, for "good works," there are many legitimate charities they could support. But not THIS one.
 
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Memefan said:
http://abcnews.go.com/comments?type=story&id=248


WE can leave comments on their board. Encourage others to do the same. There is strength in numbers.


And also email:

http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABCNews.com%20comments
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When you click on the link for the message board, they have many comments unrelated to the story. Is this a universal message board, or is there one just for this story? If there is not, would it better to email them to make sure we are clear and not lost among posts?
 
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Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

I hope these children grow up and see through the many shady characters that are now unfortunately part of their day to day life. That's all I am going to say along with happy spinning Michael.

And you can think what you like, no one said you could not
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Of course I can, they are beyond your or anyone else's control.
That long post of yours Ginvid, whatever you say is the word, whats mine against yours.
 
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Autumn II said:
Absolutely. Contact GMA.

For a judge to "change things," there must be a complaint, from someone looking out for the children's well-being (emotional, and not just financial). IS there? Probably not. .

The children really wouldn't have a choice in this, and probably don't know that the charity is bogus, anyway. So, this is WRONG, on so many levels. Howard Mann is a porn producer who essentially stole items from Michael. The contract (so-called) that he and Katherine signed calls for exactly appearances such as these, where the kids will be "produced" in public venues. The contact itself is subject of an on-going lawsuit.

If the children are going to be hauled before the public at such a young age, for "good works," there are many legitimate charities they could support. But not THIS one.
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We have contacted the guardian ...many times. Everytimes, there is been some questionable news leaks, ..from the belts to Oprah, we have contacted the guardian ad litem.

She always says she will look into it, but now I understand...unless child Protective services are contacted..there is nothing we can do.

That is why I am grateful to Grace for doing what she did last spring. She is to blame for much, but in this case she put the kids' welfare first.
 
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~Lindsey~ said:
Could fans contact the Jackson family and ask them directly but respectfully and I'd like to highlight Respectfully what is going on via twitter, I'm guessing that way it would give them the chance to explain and would highlight the fan community's doubts.
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I have a "feeling" that after this interview airs, the Jackson family members who do have active Twitter accounts are going to receive an EAR FULL from concerned Michael Jackson fans AND members of the general public.

I saw the little preview clip and the children sitting, bunched together on a couch looks very odd and uncomfortable, in my opinion. It reminded me of a department store, putting their new fall line on DISPLAY in their front window.

Like Katherine Jackson is saying: "give me a few dollars and I'll let you look at my grandchildren" and if you give me a little bit more: "I'll allow them speak."
 
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ginvid said:
When you click on the link for the message board, they have many comments unrelated to the story. Is this a universal message board, or is their one just for this story? If there is not, would it better to email them to make sure we are clear and not lost among posts?
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Yes, it is.

you can use the email instead...if you find it more convenient. Don't forget the full story hasn't aired yet. But I think it's good to be proactive.

ETA: I remove the board link....Thank you for your feedback.
 
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Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

I'll just post this one here if the GMA link doesn't work for people outside US

 
Re: Katherine PP&B on GMA 2/25

:bugeyed


:wtf:


God.... I do not believe it when another fan told me. :no:

Another interview?! :perrin: :banghead:

Sure, Michael is very happy about that. Very sad... :( *big sigh*


See PPB made me smile, they are beautiful. :wub: God bless and protect them. :angel:
 
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