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Katherine Jackson Says Her Nephew Is Abusing Her

An absolute waste of court time and resources.

Janet has a home in LA. Why didn't fly back to LA to show her baby to her family? Why London? Obviously so the curbs could play out this farce unobstructed.

This is so embarrassing. MJ deserves better than this. He does not need this kind of public humiliation.

The curbs need to stop this madness. Get a damn job!!!
 
I wonder if she will dare to lie for her cubs if she has to show up to testify. There should be a way to stop them from doing such pathetic antics. It's weird París hasn't been frantic about her grandmother's absence as she was in 2012.
 
? you have to laugh. nice to see the plan is going so well?So whats next get a fake medical certificate saying she cant travel.

Paris posted a comment on twitter but as shes living in her own place with her own money and knows what their games are after the first kidnapping shes prob like whatever let the idiots get on with it

Hope kj has a visa if shes claiming to be a uk resident?
 
elusive moonwalker said:
? you have to laugh. nice to see the plan is going so well?So whats next get a fake medical certificate saying she cant travel.

Paris posted a comment on twitter but as shes living in her own place with her own money and knows what their games are after the first kidnapping shes prob like whatever let the idiots get on with it

Hope kj has a visa if shes claiming to be a uk resident?
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If that is the case...wouldn't that affect her custody of Bigi, since she is his guardian and he is a minor?
 
Goddess4Real;4189917 said:
If that is the case...wouldn't that affect her custody of Bigi, since she is his guardian and he is a minor?
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She's a co-guardian, but I saw this online (if this is a valid resource page):

'You decide where the child lives. If you move, you must tell the court in writing right away. If you want to move out of California, you have to get the court's permission.'

http://www.courts.ca.gov/1211.htm

I don't think Katherine needs a visa to travel to the UK, but she would have had to bring 'relevant documents' with her eg to prove her US residency, financial status etc.


Visitors can stay for maximum 6 months in each 12 months.
(UK) Visitor rules are the same for all.
Visitor rules include: purpose of visits, no right to work, no right to use the NHS, no right to use the public funds (benefits), no right to switch to more serious visas inside the UK, ie no right to switch to a Spouse or work visa.

Some other nationals do not need to apply for a visitor visa before travelling to the UK. Examples include American, Australian, Brazilian and other nationals. These nationals do not need to apply for a ‘visa stamp’ before travelling, they can just come here, explain their purpose of visit at the border control, prove they have enough funds to support themselves, possibly show a return ticket. Then they would get a stamp in the passport with the date, airport/port name and an endorsement saying he/she is admitted for 6 months without a right to work. This is what people call ‘travelling without a visa’.

https://www.gov.uk/apply-uk-visa
 
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Katherine Jackson ordered to testify in elder abuse case

March 29 2017

Katherine Jackson is reportedly under doctor's care in London.

Katherine Jackson will have to take to the witness stand as part of her elder abuse case against nephew Trent, a judge has ruled.

The 86-year-old obtained a restraining order against Trent, who worked as her driver and looked after finances and wellbeing, in February (17) after she claimed he was "an abusive con man" who had been emotionally abusing her and trying to take control of her money for years.

Trent denied the claims and filed legal documents claiming Katherine's son Jermaine, the brother of the late Michael Jackson, was masterminding the whole case in his attempt to control Michael's estate.

Trent questioned whether Katherine, who didn't appear in court, actually wrote the declaration herself and whether she had any idea was happening while she was in London with her daughter Janet.

Trent asked a judge to either dismiss the case or force Katherine to appear in court, as he believed she would back him in person.

On Tuesday (28Mar17), Judge Rolf Treu ruled that he would not accept a sworn statement from Katherine, and she will have to appear in person in Los Angeles County Superior Court for her testimony and cross-examination in the case.

However, Katherine's lawyer Joy Bass told the New York Daily News she was unsure whether the ruling would be enough to convince the matriarch to return to America.

Bass added that Katherine, who travelled to the U.K. to support Janet after the birth of her first child, is currently "under a doctor's care" in London, and shouldn't be forced to jeopardise her health in order to deliver a live testimony.

Judge Treu's decision was the last in a string of legal blows for Bass, whose previous attempts to seek testimony over Trent's alleged abuse failed. Her team's first attempt, asking an Adult Protective Services' social worker about his case file, hit a roadblock when the judge ruled the employee didn't have to share the file or answer questions.

Judge Treu also stopped Katherine's head of security, Stephen Caines, from testifying whether Katherine told him she was scared of Trent, and while Katherine's former personal assistant Janice Smith admitted she had seen her former boss acting "withdrawn and fearful" around Trent, Judge Treu sustained an objection prohibiting her from answering whether she had ever seen Trent acting "mean or abrasive".

© Cover Media http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ent...-to-testify-in-elder-abuse-case-35575373.html
 
Yeah she doesnt need a visa for a holiday etc but shes claiming to be a uk resident to get out of being called which is obviously B.S unless of course shes suddenly filed all the paper work in the uk and its been accepted in record time. Hardly likey. Re blanket i hardly think he came into their thoughts as they planned this. I guess she should now renounce her guardianship of him but whoops then she would stop getting money for him. dont you just love how the family plans these scams out so well?

Its just a ridiculous excuse to get out of being called and thankfully the judge saw through it.so next they get a drs report claiming she suddenly became ill in london and cant travel
 
elusive moonwalker said:
? you have to laugh. nice to see the plan is going so well?So whats next get a fake medical certificate saying she cant travel.

Paris posted a comment on twitter but as shes living in her own place with her own money and knows what their games are after the first kidnapping shes prob like whatever let the idiots get on with it

Hope kj has a visa if shes claiming to be a uk resident?
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elusive moonwalker said:
Yeah she doesnt need a visa for a holiday etc but shes claiming to be a uk resident to get out of being called which is obviously B.S unless of course shes suddenly filed all the paper work in the uk and its been accepted in record time. Hardly likey. Re blanket i hardly think he came into their thoughts as they planned this. I guess she should now renounce her guardianship of him but whoops then she would stop getting money for him. dont you just love how the family plans these scams out so well?

Its just a ridiculous excuse to get out of being called and thankfully the judge saw through it.so next they get a drs report claiming she suddenly became ill in london and cant travel
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I agree they might go with the Doctor route....as a Plan B.
 
Goddess4Real said:
I agree they might go with the Doctor route....as a Plan B.
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You have to be incredibly unwell to be unable to travel at all. There are medically equipped planes and nurse / Dr escorts available. I think you'd have to claim ' at risk of dying' not to be able to travel.
 
myosotis said:
You have to be incredibly unwell to be unable to travel at all. There are medically equipped planes and nurse / Dr escorts available. I think you'd have to claim ' at risk of dying' not to be able to travel.
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And it wouldn't surprise me if they used that very argument.......after all didn't they do something similar in 2012 with Dr Allan Metzger during Granny gate, until they (the courts) forced her to come back or she would lose custody and $$$$$$$ of MJ''s kids?
 
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In a way, I feel sorry for her. This isn't something you want to deal with at that age. But imo she's just too naive. She should've made her point ages ago, frankly when Joe started to beat up his (her!) children.

I think it's only fair that the judge wants to hear both sides. My small hope is that when she turns up in person she'll make a mess of things and the whole thing will blow up, but I'm sure she has a lawyer who's capable of preventing that.

Isn't it just disgusting the way things are going? I mean, they've always been that way but now that the attention shifts towards the family as Michael is no longer with us, this is so ridiculous and absurd and it's turned into such a farce. How can they expect to be taken seriously with stuff like that going on on a regular basis?
It's such a feeble and obvious attempt to go after Michael's money.

I sincerely hope that Michael's kids will always see through their schemes and will live their own, independent lives.
 
Unfortunately, Katherine IS old and probably shouldn't be traveling long distances in a plane. Surprised they can't figure out a way for her to testify by Skype or something. She could go to a room in a local court without friends or family present. Or why can't Rale go there.

Is she not being there the reason the judge refused to let the other witnesses testify? Most likely didn't let TJ testify either. (To be fair).
 
Unfortunately, Katherine IS old and probably shouldn't be traveling long distances in a plane. Surprised they can't figure out a way for her to testify by Skype or something.
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But her permanent residence is in the US, so she'll return home anyway some day, don't you think? (Furthermore, she should return to the US anyway b/c she's Blanket's guardian!)
And I mean, if she's accusing someone of a crime it's only logical she will have to testify in person. How else should a judge determine who's right?
 
barbee0715 said:
Unfortunately, Katherine IS old and probably shouldn't be traveling long distances in a plane. Surprised they can't figure out a way for her to testify by Skype or something. She could go to a room in a local court without friends or family present. Or why can't Rale go there.

Is she not being there the reason the judge refused to let the other witnesses testify? Most likely didn't let TJ testify either. (To be fair).
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Then, why didn't her children alert the authorities and order a thorough investigation? why didn't her children report the matter to the estate since she's a beneficiary?

Also, Trent, as the accused in this case, has the right to face his accuser. Denying him that would be unconstitutional. So KJ can't hide behind health excuses and all that. if she could travel to London in the first place, surely she should have no problems traveling back to LA.

Anyways, make no mistakes here. These allegations are a scam designed to take out Trent who controls KJ money purse since he's her caretaker, appointed by MJ himself.

Jermaine and co are in their 60s today and it's utterly embarrassing to see them at that age still depend on their 86 years mother for a living.
 
Shes was fine enough to travel. Its all a scam by the family to stop her from being questioned
 
I wonder if Katherine actually physically met with a Social worker from Adult Protective Services, before she left, or if the 'meeting' took place from London via Skype etc? If the meeting was in California, I'm surprised that Katherine still went to London, as the SW should have been able to take some fairly speedy action, if needed. If there is a family dispute, it is possible that the SW could bring in a Public Guardian or Conservator to either manage or have some oversight of Katherines' situation, including her financial affairs.

The Public Guardian (PG) or Public Conservator (PC) conducts the official County investigation into conservatorship matters. The PG/PC also acts as the legally appointed conservator for persons found by the Superior Court to be unable to properly care for themselves or their finances, or who cannot resist undue influence or fraud.
http://sonomacounty.ca.gov/Human-Services/Adult-and-Aging-Services/#guardian

Since Trent has been named widely in the press, I presume that he can open a defamation case against the family / Katherine, and / or can make a case for unfair dismissal.

There seem to be lots of ways that this case can get worse, before it gets resolved.


But her permanent residence is in the US, so she'll return home anyway some day, don't you think?
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Visitors to the UK can only stay for 6 months in any 12 months, so she will have to leave London by about early August, and not return for at least another 6 months.
 
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The cubs should be arrested for kidnapping their mother. It's sad and disgusting the second richest Jackson sibling is willing to join in such kind of schemes. What did Michael and the children even do to her?
 
Katherine Jackson returning to America to testify against nephew in elder abuse case

She’s got to be there – so she will be.

Katherine Jackson will fly back from London to testify in person at a hearing to make her restraining order against her nephew Trent Jackson permanent, a source told the Daily News Wednesday morning.

Her lawyer later confirmed the travel reversal during a Tuesday afternoon hearing.

The petitioner is returning from London and needs time to re-acclimate after her journey (to) testify in this matter,” lawyer Julianna Edwards told Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Rolf Treu.

Katherine Jackson must testify in person in elder abuse battle
The judge continued the matter to April 25, when Katherine is expected to take the witness stand.

Trent’s lawyer Ron Rale said he hopes the warring relatives reach a private settlement in the meantime.

“We’re exploring resolution of the case,” he said in court. “We’re hoping to resolve this matter.”

Katherine was hoping to remain with daughter Janet Jackson and new grandson Eissa Al Mana in London and simply submit a sworn statement, but Judge Treu ruled Tuesday that declarations would not be allowed as “evidence in chief” during a mini-trial that started Tuesday.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...ning-america-testify-nephew-article-1.3013100
 
myosotis;4189992 said:
Katherine Jackson returning to America to testify against nephew in elder abuse case

She’s got to be there – so she will be.

Katherine Jackson will fly back from London to testify in person at a hearing to make her restraining order against her nephew Trent Jackson permanent, a source told the Daily News Wednesday morning.

Her lawyer later confirmed the travel reversal during a Tuesday afternoon hearing.

The petitioner is returning from London and needs time to re-acclimate after her journey (to) testify in this matter,” lawyer Julianna Edwards told Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Rolf Treu.

Katherine Jackson must testify in person in elder abuse battle
The judge continued the matter to April 25, when Katherine is expected to take the witness stand.

Trent’s lawyer Ron Rale said he hopes the warring relatives reach a private settlement in the meantime.

“We’re exploring resolution of the case,” he said in court. “We’re hoping to resolve this matter.”

Katherine was hoping to remain with daughter Janet Jackson and new grandson Eissa Al Mana in London and simply submit a sworn statement, but Judge Treu ruled Tuesday that declarations would not be allowed as “evidence in chief” during a mini-trial that started Tuesday.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...ning-america-testify-nephew-article-1.3013100
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Thanks...good news, let's see what happens next, will it be like 2012 where her story flipped flopped?
 
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Where the f***ck is joesph in all of this!!!????? this is his nephew that is allegely "abusing" his wife/estranged wife! and mother of his kids!!!!!!

To me this proves these allegations are fake as man cuz surely joe wouldnt put up with that
 
Goddess4Real said:
Even in Rebbie and Jermaine's court statements there is NO mention or concern for MJ''s kids who are either living or visiting that household. After all if all those allegations are true, they too would be in danger etc....looks like a red flag to me.
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Excatly and jugding by prince snd paris 's pics on instragram they look happy....well they dont look like they afraid of trent or anything so something definitely aint right
 
passy001 said:
Then, why didn't her children alert the authorities and order a thorough investigation? why didn't her children report the matter to the estate since she's a beneficiary?

Also, Trent, as the accused in this case, has the right to face his accuser. Denying him that would be unconstitutional. So KJ can't hide behind health excuses and all that. if she could travel to London in the first place, surely she should have no problems traveling back to LA.

Anyways, make no mistakes here. These allegations are a scam designed to take out Trent who controls KJ money purse since he's her caretaker, appointed by MJ himself.

Jermaine and co are in their 60s today and it's utterly embarrassing to see them at that age still depend on their 86 years mother for a living.
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Oh, I'm not doubting that Katherine is being used again in another ridiculous and stupid scheme. I don't think that she should have travelled to London in the first place and felt something was up when she changed attorneys.

This could backfire on them like last time and court could decide that she needs a guardian herself.
 
KATHERINE JACKSON
BACK IN L.A.
UNDER HEAVY BIOLOGICAL GUARD

3/31/17 12:12 AM PST

Katherine Jackson is back in Los Angeles, and one of the kids Trent believes is masterminding the court case against him almost gymnastically shielded her from questions about the family war.

TMZ broke the story ... Katherine headed back to L.A. from London after a judge essentially ruled her case against Trent couldn't go forward without her present in court.

Katherine's daughter, Rebbie, blocked our photog who was asking about Katherine's allegations that Trent stole from her and abused her ... something he denies.

Trent believes Rebbie and Jermaine Jackson are manipulating Katherine into going against Trent, although the endgame isn't clear.

We're told Trent is willing to walk away from the whole thing, so it's unclear why the case is pressing forward.

Our sources say the 86-year-old will be seeing doctors ... and it's certainly possible her lawyer could ask the judge at the next hearing to keep her off the stand because of her age and health.

http://m.tmz.com/#article/2017/03/30/katherine-jackson-back-in-la-trent-court-rebbie/
 
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Do courts sanction them in some way for wasting their time and resources? If not, the cubs deserve to be sanctioned. Like I said before, they couldn’t be more predictable. >_>
 
I doubt the hearing date in April will happen. The case will go away until then.
 
If I was TJ, I might be tempted to get a restraining order on her...if that's possible. It's not acceptable for fans to contact any member of the J's at home, in any (uninvited) circumstances. I wouldn't blame the Jacksons if they closed down all contact with fans, including the Gary event on MJ's birthday.

(Does she use the 'Royal 'We'? eg lies told against us will not be tolerated' LOL)
 
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