Jermaine's Ex Shopping Jackson Reality Show

for a realityshow to be successful there have to be tons of drama (real housewives of beverly hills) or glitz and glamour (the hills/kardashians) or really fucking out of their mind crazy ppl (the jersey shore)

who will watch a woman and her five kids doing... what?
 
for a realityshow to be successful there have to be tons of drama (real housewives of beverly hills) or glitz and glamour (the hills/kardashians) or really fucking out of their mind crazy ppl (the jersey shore)

who will watch a woman and her five kids doing... what?

Well they could have them begging for money and show them living with different families for free and refusing to leave until they choose. That will bring a lot of drama.
 
Well they could have them begging for money and show them living with different families for free and refusing to leave until they choose. That will bring a lot of drama.
and...the kids could stand at the pencil sharpener ...sharpening pencils for the mothers tell-all -book...:D
 
and...the kids could stand at the pencil sharpener ...sharpening pencils for the mothers tell-all -book...:D

Yeah and they could bring guests of brothers on the show and see what the mommy would do? Viewers could then vote in and decide if mommy would pick brother 1 or brother 2 or both.
 
What can she say that we already don't know? i agree with you that I bet she is hoping for exactly that.

But I just don't believe there are any earth shattering Michael secrets out there...or at least that Alejandra knows about!!

I just don't want the estate throwing money at her. Let her get a job like everybody else and worry about healthcare and retirement benefits like the rest of us. (Never gonna happen, I know!!)

Who said her claims have to be 100% true. They would probably be made up or grossly fabricated anyway.

exactly. like with maldonado from what i remember she said mj was the only decent man in that family.

Like I stated earlier. When Margaret made her book MJ was alive, now he's gone... So Alejandra won't face the repercussions that Margaret would cause MJ is no longer here.
I'm not saying I think MJ was a bad guy, I think Margaret was telling the truth, but she wasn't gonna put MJ in a bad light in any, way, shape or form while he was living.
 
I think Margaret was telling the truth, but she wasn't gonna put MJ in a bad light in any, way, shape or form while he was living.

Why not? Margaret basically critized every brother in the book imo and she even trashed Joe and said not so good things about Katherine (like how Katherine first didnt wanted to acknowledge her and how Katherine told her its a womans duty to spread her legs if her man want to get some). Margaret only left out Rebbie, Janet and Toya (with exception the Jack Gordon era).

I dont think Margaret had dirt on Michael, thats what i honestly believe she didnt trash him. If she had something on Michael, im sure she would have written it, because honestly her book came out in late 90s- at the time of Blood on the Dancefloor/HIstory era/tour. It sure would have been a great time for her to say soemthing because face it, the public always wanted to read shit about Michael.. , but she didnt because I do believe she had nothing on Mike.
 
Yeah and they could bring guests of brothers on the show and see what the mommy would do? Viewers could then vote in and decide if mommy would pick brother 1 or brother 2 or both.

Petrarose you are killing me:clapping:. It was great seeing you in London last year.
 
Yeah and they could bring guests of brothers on the show and see what the mommy would do? Viewers could then vote in and decide if mommy would pick brother 1 or brother 2 or both.
LMAO! Hilarious :rollin:
 
Yeah and they could bring guests of brothers on the show and see what the mommy would do? Viewers could then vote in and decide if mommy would pick brother 1 or brother 2 or both.

Hilarious!!!

Made me LOL....Thank you!

:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
Why not? Margaret basically critized every brother in the book imo and she even trashed Joe and said not so good things about Katherine (like how Katherine first didnt wanted to acknowledge her and how Katherine told her its a womans duty to spread her legs if her man want to get some). Margaret only left out Rebbie, Janet and Toya (with exception the Jack Gordon era).

I dont think Margaret had dirt on Michael, thats what i honestly believe she didnt trash him. If she had something on Michael, im sure she would have written it, because honestly her book came out in late 90s- at the time of Blood on the Dancefloor/HIstory era/tour. It sure would have been a great time for her to say soemthing because face it, the public always wanted to read shit about Michael.. , but she didnt because I do believe she had nothing on Mike.

Well yea i agree that its between the fact she doesn't have much dirt and I think it's because she knew better. She works in the entertainment industry and I'm sure he could have ended her career if he wanted.
 
Yeah and they could bring guests of brothers on the show and see what the mommy would do? Viewers could then vote in and decide if mommy would pick brother 1 or brother 2 or both.
:rofl:...exactly.....your to funny.:D
 
Why not? Margaret basically critized every brother in the book imo and she even trashed Joe and said not so good things about Katherine (like how Katherine first didnt wanted to acknowledge her and how Katherine told her its a womans duty to spread her legs if her man want to get some). Margaret only left out Rebbie, Janet and Toya (with exception the Jack Gordon era).

I dont think Margaret had dirt on Michael, thats what i honestly believe she didnt trash him. If she had something on Michael, im sure she would have written it, because honestly her book came out in late 90s- at the time of Blood on the Dancefloor/HIstory era/tour. It sure would have been a great time for her to say soemthing because face it, the public always wanted to read shit about Michael.. , but she didnt because I do believe she had nothing on Mike.

It came out in 94 is my memory. I remember her promoting it on Geraldo, I saw her twice. Of course I could be wrong, but that's my memory. She called MJ eccentric during the trial as I recall too, according to RF.
 
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Well yea i agree that its between the fact she doesn't have much dirt and I think it's because she knew better. She works in the entertainment industry and I'm sure he could have ended her career if he wanted.

Or maybe she just genuinely liked him? Not everyone has an ulterior motive when they speak positively about Michael, you know.

It came out in 94 is my memory. I remember her promoting it on Geraldo, I saw her twice. Of course I could be wrong, but that's my memory. She called MJ eccentric during the trial as I recall too, according to RF.

Well, that's hardly an insult, lol. Michael was eccentric, as are many artistic or otherwise talented people. At least Michael's eccentricities were truly a part of him and not contrived like Lady Gaga's.
 
Or maybe she just genuinely liked him? Not everyone has an ulterior motive when they speak positively about Michael, you know.



Well, that's hardly an insult, lol. Michael was eccentric, as are many artistic or otherwise talented people. At least Michael's eccentricities were truly a part of him and not contrived like Lady Gaga's.

I read it in print in RF's column, so I guess it depends on how her tone was when she said it - but I guess it bothers me that she would even talk to RF anyway, especially during that time period. He wrote some other things also about her business as I recall. She may have been talking to him regularly, idk. But I didn't like it, nor her appearances in 94 on the Geraldo show. Her sons get to read her book about their father & members of their family, not to mention I think I saw her briefly in some other show promoting her book(did not watch, so I don't remember the name). Puts stress on her kids, I would think.
 
I read it in print in RF's column, so I guess it depends on how her tone was when she said it - but I guess it bothers me that she would even talk to RF anyway, especially during that time period. He wrote some other things also about her business as I recall. She may have been talking to him regularly, idk. But I didn't like it, nor her appearances in 94 on the Geraldo show. Her sons get to read her book about their father & members of their family, not to mention I think I saw her briefly in some other show promoting her book(did not watch, so I don't remember the name). Puts stress on her kids, I would think.

I understand your point. Writing a negative tell-all book about your ex and his family is probably not the most classy thing to do. However, I always try to look at a situation from both sides and ask myself what I would do if I were in their position, so that's why my posts are usually moderate rather than radically anti- or pro- something, even if I personally disagree with it. I just wanted to get that clear before you misinterpret my post :)

As for Margaret, I can understand how frustrating it must have been for her to hear Jermaine preaching about the importance of family unity, knowing that Jermaine cheated on his wife, had 2 women pregnant at the same time and refused to pay child support. I can also see why she'd get annoyed with this picture perfect image of the wholesome family that the Jacksons tried to keep up in public, as she was in the middle of it and knew it was BS. Also, I can understand her anger at the fact that Michael was being mocked and judged around that time and considered the "w.acko" of that family when Michael was the only one that helped her. Finally, due to Jermaine being a deadbeat dad, she had to find other ways to make money for herself and her children and the book offered a (temporary) solution. At least she didn't stick around at Hayvenhurst unwanted like "some" of Jermaine's exes do. In short: although it is not classy to bash your ex and some of his family members in a book, in this case I think she had legitimate reasons to do so. I may have done the same thing if I found myself in that position, I don't know.

That said, I don't think everything said in Margaret's book should be taken as fact. There were undoubtedly some exaggerations or even lies in there, as is usually the case with tell-all books (or (auto)biographies for that matter). And we must remember this is all just her account of what happened. Still, the book seemed quite reliable to me on the whole. If she was really looking for sensationalism, she could have added some juicy stuff about MJ (whether true or not) in there that would undoubtedly generate publicity. She didn't HAVE to defend Michael the way she did, so I applaud her for that at least.
 
Or maybe she just genuinely liked him? Not everyone has an ulterior motive when they speak positively about Michael, you know.



Well, that's hardly an insult, lol. Michael was eccentric, as are many artistic or otherwise talented people. At least Michael's eccentricities were truly a part of him and not contrived like Lady Gaga's.

I understand where you're coming from but you know how people are.

I understand your point. Writing a negative tell-all book about your ex and his family is probably not the most classy thing to do. However, I always try to look at a situation from both sides and ask myself what I would do if I were in their position, so that's why my posts are usually moderate rather than radically anti- or pro- something, even if I personally disagree with it. I just wanted to get that clear before you misinterpret my post :)

As for Margaret, I can understand how frustrating it must have been for her to hear Jermaine preaching about the importance of family unity, knowing that Jermaine cheated on his wife, had 2 women pregnant at the same time and refused to pay child support. I can also see why she'd get annoyed with this picture perfect image of the wholesome family that the Jacksons tried to keep up in public, as she was in the middle of it and knew it was BS. Also, I can understand her anger at the fact that Michael was being mocked and judged around that time and considered the "w.acko" of that family when Michael was the only one that helped her. Finally, due to Jermaine being a deadbeat dad, she had to find other ways to make money for herself and her children and the book offered a (temporary) solution. At least she didn't stick around at Hayvenhurst unwanted like "some" of Jermaine's exes do. In short: although it is not classy to bash your ex and some of his family members in a book, in this case I think she had legitimate reasons to do so. I may have done the same thing if I found myself in that position, I don't know.

That said, I don't think everything said in Margaret's book should be taken as fact. There were undoubtedly some exaggerations or even lies in there, as is usually the case with tell-all books (or (auto)biographies for that matter). And we must remember this is all just her account of what happened. Still, the book seemed quite reliable to me on the whole. If she was really looking for sensationalism, she could have added some juicy stuff about MJ (whether true or not) in there that would undoubtedly generate publicity. She didn't HAVE to defend Michael the way she did, so I applaud her for that at least.

I read her book and enjoyed it for entertainment purposes but I found some of it to be bs. She tried to play the victim role, she was responsible for the mess she was in not jermaine. From the beginning when she was messing with jermaine while he was married, and through some of that other bs. I'm sure she isn't as innocent as she made herself seem. So what if Katherine took her kids side, those are her kids, if you want somebody to take your side go back to your momma and your family. Also it isn't her job to go and try to dismantle their perfect family image, especially because without that family and that last name( she was only common law, and you hate the jacksons sooo much and think they are crazy but she damn sure didn't hesitate adding that last name) you wouldn't be in the position you are in today. N it is pretty classless to do what she did. "I'm mad at my ex and his family so I'm gonna write a book bashing them." I don't care what anyone says that was a b*tch move on her part.
 
So what if Katherine took her kids side, those are her kids, if you want somebody to take your side go back to your momma and your family.

As a parent myself, I would have to say that I HOPE Ms. Katherine does not take the side of a "DEADBEAT" father.

In my opinion, there is NO excuse for a father who does not want to support his children financially. Rich, poor, or in-between, it is a father's duty to support his children. No excuses, end of story!
 
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I understand your point. Writing a negative tell-all book about your ex and his family is probably not the most classy thing to do. However, I always try to look at a situation from both sides and ask myself what I would do if I were in their position, so that's why my posts are usually moderate rather than radically anti- or pro- something, even if I personally disagree with it. I just wanted to get that clear before you misinterpret my post :)

As for Margaret, I can understand how frustrating it must have been for her to hear Jermaine preaching about the importance of family unity, knowing that Jermaine cheated on his wife, had 2 women pregnant at the same time and refused to pay child support. I can also see why she'd get annoyed with this picture perfect image of the wholesome family that the Jacksons tried to keep up in public, as she was in the middle of it and knew it was BS. Also, I can understand her anger at the fact that Michael was being mocked and judged around that time and considered the "w.acko" of that family when Michael was the only one that helped her. Finally, due to Jermaine being a deadbeat dad, she had to find other ways to make money for herself and her children and the book offered a (temporary) solution. At least she didn't stick around at Hayvenhurst unwanted like "some" of Jermaine's exes do. In short: although it is not classy to bash your ex and some of his family members in a book, in this case I think she had legitimate reasons to do so. I may have done the same thing if I found myself in that position, I don't know.

That said, I don't think everything said in Margaret's book should be taken as fact. There were undoubtedly some exaggerations or even lies in there, as is usually the case with tell-all books (or (auto)biographies for that matter). And we must remember this is all just her account of what happened. Still, the book seemed quite reliable to me on the whole. If she was really looking for sensationalism, she could have added some juicy stuff about MJ (whether true or not) in there that would undoubtedly generate publicity. She didn't HAVE to defend Michael the way she did, so I applaud her for that at least.


As I recall, the first time she was on Geraldo, she was upset about money, but my impression by her 2nd appearance, by what Geraldo said & what she said, was that she had some sort of financial agreement from Jermaine that she was happy about.

"I understand your point. Writing a negative tell-all book about your ex and his family is probably not the most classy thing to do." I think mostly is that it would have to put her sons in a emotional divide between parents, your children should come first.



Here is RF article - came out right during deliberations:

The Jackson Family's 'Jackie O.'

Thursday, June 09, 2005
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By Roger Friedman

Jackson Family's 'Jackie O.' | *****'s Money | ***** Court Confusion | Top 100 Americans
The 'Jackie O.' of the Jackson Family
Not everyone in the Jackson family is being supported by Michael Jackson or Janet Jackson.
Meet Margaret Maldonado, the ex-common-law wife of Jermaine Jackson and mother of two of his sons, Jeremy (18) and Jourdynn (16).
Margaret, who's 40, has an incredibly successful business representing photographers and stylists in Hollywood. Her Web site — www.margaretmaldonado.com — speaks for itself.
At last, someone in the family has gotten up off the couch and done something with her life.
Margaret's followed the playbook invented by Jackie Onassis for her kids, Caroline Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr., and raised them away from the glare of their famous family.

I spoke to Margaret recently about her son Jeremy's interview last December with Santa Barbara County sheriff's deputies. The investigators were following up on rumors that something inappropriate had happened between Michael and Jeremy.
Margaret says nothing could be further from the truth.
"We were shocked," she told me. "They waited until he turned 18 and was home alone. They knocked on the door one afternoon. We couldn't believe it."
Maldonado says she raised her two kids completely separated from the Jacksons. She was never married to Jermaine, but they were together for seven years. She says she's never received a penny of child support, even though she has a court order for it.
"I just said, 'Forget it.' It wasn't worth going to court and fighting with him. I knew I could make it on my own."
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She does not use the Jackson name, and until I called, had never made her association with the family public.
"All I ever got from them was groceries from Costco," she said. "It was a long time ago."
Maldonado laughs at rumors that her Range Rover and a recent family trip to Hawaii were gifts from Michael.
"I really resent that," she said. "It [ticks] me off that people don't think a woman can do this on her own. We take two family trips a year. My son goes to private school. That's my Range Rover."
Maldonado does concede that Jeremy has finished high school via home schooling. That was a result, she said, of the bad publicity following the Nov. 2002 incident when Michael dangled his baby, Blanket, over the balcony of a German hotel.
"Kids can be cruel," she says. "He was having a bad time."
As for Michael, Maldonado says she's close enough to her two sons to know that nothing happened between them and Michael that she needs to worry about.
"He was always just the eccentric uncle," she said. "The kids used to follow him around like ducks. But there's nothing else."
***** Money: Everyone's Wrong
Suddenly, there's a rush to explain Michael Jackson's finances. The Wall Street Journal tried it yesterday; others are attempting it today.
The authors of these pieces are either cobbling together information from FOXNews.com or relying on bad numbers to make some kind of case.
Yesterday, for example, Court TV — hell-bent on helping secure a conviction for the Santa Barbara District Attorney — broadcast a lot of hooey about Jackson's wallet.
One of these stories was that Miami attorney Alvin Malnik would certainly come rushing to Jackson's side the minute the singer was finished with this case.
Wrong. Malnik, who gave Jackson an interest-free $5 million loan in 2003 and helped keep him from disaster in 2004, has washed his hands of the ungrateful Jackson, according to my very informed sources.
More: The Rev. Jesse Jackson did indeed attempt to contact Bank of America to discuss Michael's loans. But he didn't do it until after B of A had sold the loans in their entirety, $270 million, to Fortress Investments in New York.
The good reverend's calls were rebuffed by bank head Ken Lewis and referred back to Michael's personal banker and longtime champion at B of A, Jane Heller. You should also know that Heller, contrary to reports, did not reject a payment from Michael Jackson.
According to insiders, what she declined to accept was a "bridge loan" from an outsider to catch Jackson up on his current bills. One of the covenants of the B of A loan was that Jackson could accept no other loans.
This is called robbing Peter to pay Paul. B of A does not like clichés, apparently. And they were concerned that this "bridge loan" (as in, I'd like to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge) would have been collateralized with Jackson's remaining asset, his parents' home in Encino, Calif.
Jackson has since used a private $2.2 million "bridge" over troubled water to pay bills. It's pretty much gone. As Jackson said in a taped interview seen in court, "Chimps love snacks."
***** Civil War: Tale of Two Statements
Confusion reigned supreme yesterday at the Michael Jackson trial. What else is new?
Around 1:30 p.m. PDT, the press was told that someone in the court wanted to issue a written statement.
It wasn't about the jury's deliberations, we were told, but it was also explained that we could not know the source of the statement.
Huh?
But this is the way Judge Rodney Melville deals with the media. Everything is cloak-and-dagger. We live with an unworkable gag order and ridiculous rules governing press credentials. Alas, the pain and suffering are almost over.
At 2:30 p.m. comes the much-awaited statement. In the interim, dozens of journalists have jammed together in a small space waiting to hear these powerful words.
Will the statement be from the prosecution or the defense? The prosecution and the defense? Will it concern press conferences, witness tampering or an anticipated half-day on Thursday?
When it comes, however, the statement is a letdown. It's from defense attorney Thomas Mesereau: "I have not authorized anyone to speak or hold any press conferences on behalf of Michael Jackson or his family. A gag order is in effect which the defense team will continue to honor."
Someone immediately says the statement is available on mjjsource.com. This is Randy Jackson's Web site, written and posted by a bunch of women who are said to be current or former girlfriends of Randy's along with Michael's stylist, Karen Faye.
But something is wrong. There is another statement altogether. This one is titled: "A Note from Michael Jackson and the Jackson Family Regarding Unauthorized Statements."
It reads: "The efforts of Michael Jackson's friends and supporters are noticed and very much appreciated at this time. However, only Michael Jackson's attorneys of record have been authorized to speak on his behalf."
Very quickly, the two statements are confused. So are the people reading them.
Is the first one Mesereau's criticism of Jackson's publicist, Raymone Bain? Is the second one concerning the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Dick Gregory? Is Bain being dumped? (This would be a dreadful mistake at this point.) Is Jesse Jackson getting a hint? Chaos ensues.
Jackson's world now resembles the planet Krypton in the movie "Superman." All the council leaders are fighting with each other. Buildings are starting to shake and fall to the ground. Marlon Brando is racing to put a baby in swaddling clothes in a rocket ship destined for a safe place. Implosion and destruction are imminent.
Indeed, Jesse Jackson, after making many pronouncements, is gone from Santa Maria. He's taken his entire entourage with him, including grocery-store magnate Gregory Calhoun.
Right before Calhoun left yesterday, he admitted to me that he was the "money guy." He came to town to bail out Michael Jackson. No doubt he will return.
Dick Gregory has not been seen in a couple of days. He is likely gone as well.
Bain is still Jackson's publicist. Somehow the two statements criss-crossed.
To wit: Mesereau does not want Melville to think he's voiding the gag order. His statement is designed to say that he has not authorized Bain to give press conferences. The wording absolves him of responsibility in these matters.
In fact, it is Randy Jackson's statement, written and posted by his gal pal Taunya Zilkie, that has caused trouble.
Even though this second statement is attributed to Michael Jackson, he has nothing to do with it. It's pure Randy and Taunya, remarks an observer. And it's a misinterpretation of Mesereau's comments. Is it done on purpose? Randy's statement makes Bain look foolish and undermines her authority.
You see, we are playing Neverland: The Board Game. This is a game where grown people continue to jockey for position, even though at any moment the whole enterprise could be exploded by a guilty verdict.
It's a game in which a scheming younger brother plays a bad game of chess, trying to manipulate the pieces while his older brother, the family cash cow, remains in isolation and pain as his future is debated by 12 strangers.
Why, it was only a couple of nights ago that a press rep spotted Randy Jackson and two female friends getting tossed out of the parking lot of the Best Value Inn on East Main Street in Santa Maria.
It has also been only a couple of days since Randy "Sonny" Jackson got involved in a melee in front of the courthouse when he came to retrieve his confused father from the crowd.
It's Randy now who has authorized a statement placed on his own Web site to be mistaken for one issued by Mesereau — a statement that paints everyone who has tried to help Michael as wrong or bad.
Sound familiar?
*****: Top 100 Greatest Americans
Michael Jackson's star may be falling, but he's still a hero to some.
Jackson is polling in the Top 100 so far in the Discovery Channel's online voting for the Greatest Americans.
Among the top vote-getters: Oprah Winfrey, the only woman in the top 10. And Elvis Presley, currently ahead of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr .
You can check out the list of finalists at www.discovery.com. It's probably the last and only time you will ever see Albert Einstein and Donald Trump mentioned in the same breath.
Jackson, by the way, is one of four pop performers on the list — the others are Presley, Ray Charles, Frank Sinatra and Madonna. Otherwise there are no composers (The Gershwins? Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein ? Aaron Copland? Leonard Bernstein?) and certainly no artists, poets or writers.
Where are Robert Frost, Robert Motherwell and William Faulkner? Harper Lee, Kurt Vonnegut and William Styron?
Listless, apparently.
 
She says she's never received a penny of child support, even though she has a court order for it. "I just said, 'Forget it.' It wasn't worth going to court and fighting with him. I knew I could make it on my own."

Lord have mercy!

You mean to tell me that Jermaine had ANOTHER set of children that he refused to support financially. I had no idea. Dang shame!
 
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