Jermaine Jackson adresses the Death Hoax theory on Twitter

If someone's reality is so profoundly damaged by soneone else passionatey stating their beliefs then there are other issues.

My reality is not profoundly damaged. It is in the moments like this one as I'm typing these letters. Not sure what other issues you are referring to. These people are doing more than passionately stating their beliefs, they are affirming with conviction that what they are saying is the truth. And there are quite a few sensitive people out there to react to stuff like that --it takes empathy to understand this. And common sense too. If you find counter-reactions like that ridiculous, fine.

I think fans are over reacting and I find it especially hard to believe that these believers can confuse the family when they saw in truth that Michael is gone.

The fans who are overreacting about this are the death hoax theorists. By the way, these posts are among my first on this issue, because I don't go visit threads dealing with hoax theories; when I did once months ago, I got sprayed on and invited to take a hike from there. So, I believe I have the right to gunnysack in a way about this.
 
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I think some people are taking this too personally. My hope is that the family can see the true context of this because to make this only about Michael and believe that this is damaging to Michael makes no sense and there are always going to be those that do this with celebrities and no one can change that
 
I think some people are taking this too personally. My hope is that the family can see the true context of this because to make this only about Michael and believe that this is damaging to Michael makes no sense and there are always going to be those that do this with celebrities and no one can change that

Of course saying Michael faked his death is damaging to Michael. To say Michael would deceive his fans, put them through all that pain, even suicide for some. How is that not damaging to Michael? Michael was not that kind of person.
 
I will delete my comment on any aliens however I do find it ridiculous to be impacted by something to be expected and most logical people would not hold this against Michael's character just as they do not hold it against Elvis or Tupac or anyone. If someone's reality is so profoundly damaged by soneone else passionatey stating their beliefs then there are other issues. I think fans are over reacting and I find it especially hard to believe that these believers can confuse the family when they saw in truth that Michael is gone. Like I said I don't see why anyone would be surprised by this
THANK U! I Completely agree! 100%

Plus, the hoax people don't even betray MJ as a monster or him as betraying the fans for their believes in his hoaxing his death lol That crap only comes from the doubters because they don't believe and will feel that about MJ themselves!
 
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Of course saying Michael faked his death is damaging to Michael. To say Michael would deceive his fans, put them through all that pain, even suicide for some. How is that not damaging to Michael? Michael was not that kind of person.

Exactly right. Thank you.
 
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@Randygirl4life I prefer for them to respect themselves & understand the reality that we've all had to deal with, but thank you
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@LucyLovesMJ I appreciate the pain that truth causes. But loving fans are being misled and it must stop
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@LucyLovesMJ Ok. I will continue until people stop believing in a fallacy based on semantics. It is more hurtful to perpetuate this myth
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
If I help one, it's enough RT @afriendofficial: @jermjackson5 When u talked about hoax theory u helped some people accept the sad reality...
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@LucyLovesMJ the truth can hurt. I ask you to consider how hurtful it is for family to read tweets saying Michael is alive when he's not
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That must be bothersome for the family to have to deal with this madness. .. Jermaine is answering as nicely as he can, too. ..
 
THANK U! I Completely agree! 100%

Plus, the hoax people don't even betray MJ as a monster or him as betraying the fans for their believes in his hoaxing his death lol That crap only comes from the doubters because they don't believe and will feel that about MJ themselves!
 
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Death is a very strange thing. I didn't understand it at all when June 25 2009 came along. I hadn't experienced someone close to me dying so I didn't understand that it feels on some level as though the person who's passed is still around, still alive somehow. As hokey as it sounds, spirit is so strong that it can be felt which makes it sometimes feel as if they are still here and still alive. I think it's why people often speak in present tense about someone who has died. It also makes it feel less permanent I suppose. To know that they still exist in some way helps, and how do you talk about someone who has died but you still can feel their presense sometimes strongly? It's hard to say "was" instead if "is" regarding them. These "slip ups" are often used as proof to people who didnt have the closure of knowing for real that he's dead. I dont know for real that he is dead so for me he does still feel alive. That's based on nothing other than feeling really. When my father died not so long ago, it hit hard but even on the plane ride to take care of him (his body) I had fantasies and wishes that maybe he was just really sick and knew that if he didn't say he died then we wouldn't take the time from our busy lives with raising children and working etc to come see him. It ended up just me who went but until I got to see his body in person, all kinds of scenarios would come to mind that possibly he is not dead.

It's not only bound go come up in celebrity deaths, this death hoax idea, it is natural on a level, for some people (especially those with wild imaginations and micheal being as imaginative as he is/was/whatever is bound to attract others similar) to imagine such a case. As horrible as it was to see my fathers body where he was absent (When I saw the body I could see it wasn't HIM. just his shell, like a shed layer of clothing, to put it nicely, though if I weren't typing where children can read I would discribe it slightly different) it gave me some closure. I knew he was dead. I have now experienced death up close and it's weird. It's horrible. It's something I can't wrap my understanding around. When my grampa died this past Christmas, 6 months after my dad, it was easier to accept. We weren't as close & I didn't see him but also, it felt like dad had company which made it easier...I dont know... It's how I coped I guess. Dad was way too young and it was unexpected.

I am sharing this via iPhone so it's really hard to keep any train of thought to know where I was going with this. I was watching what happened on June 25th 2009 from a distance so for me it's hard to believe 100% that he is dead and gone OR still alive, I guess I'm open to either. I think the trouble is when people take it further than that and can't put themselves in anithers shoes to have compassion towards what they are going through. To me, the believers (as some call themselves) need to have the most compassion for the fans who ARE experiencing grief of his death. They are going through pain that isn't in the believers lives because they are convinced he is alive for whatever reason. So none of this should be taken lightly regardless of what is believed (not what is true but what is believed since both sides can't be true at the same time). I don't consider myself a believer. Im just too far removed to be able to know either way with certainty. I really hope he is still alive as I hoped my father was. To think that he could be now enjoying a life as we all get to enjoy ours in the freedom of anonymity makes me much happier than go think that he never got that. He never escaped from the pressures of being the most recognized controversial celebrity out there instead of getting to be just a person. I feel guilty as part of the society who stuck him in such shackles and never let him just be. I hope he found a way to get away from our smothering. As much as he loved all his fans, I hope he had/has a life away from all the fame. Somewhere he's just free to be himself. I hope no one faults me for wishing for that. I know he could be in the same place (place implies physical but I guess I mean state) as my father. If he is dead, I really hope those who are grieving his death and know he is dead can forgive us.

I'll probably want to come fix up the typos and clarify my thoughts once I get to a computer and can see what I've written easier. So this may get edited later. I think Michael needs justice regardless of what's happened. Something is wrong in either scenario.
 
I just find it sad when I see fans convinced that Michael faked his death. I can't get my head round how people are so convinced about it.
 
Death is a very strange thing. I didn't understand it at all when June 25 2009 came along. I hadn't experienced someone close to me dying so I didn't understand that it feels on some level as though the person who's passed is still around, still alive somehow. As hokey as it sounds, spirit is so strong that it can be felt which makes it sometimes feel as if they are still here and still alive. I think it's why people often speak in present tense about someone who has died. It also makes it feel less permanent I suppose. To know that they still exist in some way helps, and how do you talk about someone who has died but you still can feel their presense sometimes strongly? It's hard to say "was" instead if "is" regarding them. These "slip ups" are often used as proof to people who didnt have the closure of knowing for real that he's dead. I dont know for real that he is dead so for me he does still feel alive. That's based on nothing other than feeling really. When my father died not so long ago, it hit hard but even on the plane ride to take care of him (his body) I had fantasies and wishes that maybe he was just really sick and knew that if he didn't say he died then we wouldn't take the time from our busy lives with raising children and working etc to come see him. It ended up just me who went but until I got to see his body in person, all kinds of scenarios would come to mind that possibly he is not dead.

It's not only bound go come up in celebrity deaths, this death hoax idea, it is natural on a level, for some people (especially those with wild imaginations and micheal being as imaginative as he is/was/whatever is bound to attract others similar) to imagine such a case. As horrible as it was to see my fathers body where he was absent (When I saw the body I could see it wasn't HIM. just his shell, like a shed layer of clothing, to put it nicely, though if I weren't typing where children can read I would discribe it slightly different) it gave me some closure. I knew he was dead. I have now experienced death up close and it's weird. It's horrible. It's something I can't wrap my understanding around. When my grampa died this past Christmas, 6 months after my dad, it was easier to accept. We weren't as close & I didn't see him but also, it felt like dad had company which made it easier...I dont know... It's how I coped I guess. Dad was way too young and it was unexpected.

I am sharing this via iPhone so it's really hard to keep any train of thought to know where I was going with this. I was watching what happened on June 25th 2009 from a distance so for me it's hard to believe 100% that he is dead and gone OR still alive, I guess I'm open to either. I think the trouble is when people take it further than that and can't put themselves in anithers shoes to have compassion towards what they are going through. To me, the believers (as some call themselves) need to have the most compassion for the fans who ARE experiencing grief of his death. They are going through pain that isn't in the believers lives because they are convinced he is alive for whatever reason. So none of this should be taken lightly regardless of what is believed (not what is true but what is believed since both sides can't be true at the same time). I don't consider myself a believer. Im just too far removed to be able to know either way with certainty. I really hope he is still alive as I hoped my father was. To think that he could be now enjoying a life as we all get to enjoy ours in the freedom of anonymity makes me much happier than go think that he never got that. He never escaped from the pressures of being the most recognized controversial celebrity out there instead of getting to be just a person. I feel guilty as part of the society who stuck him in such shackles and never let him just be. I hope he found a way to get away from our smothering. As much as he loved all his fans, I hope he had/has a life away from all the fame. Somewhere he's just free to be himself. I hope no one faults me for wishing for that. I know he could be in the same place (place implies physical but I guess I mean state) as my father. If he is dead, I really hope those who are grieving his death and know he is dead can forgive us.

I'll probably want to come fix up the typos and clarify my thoughts once I get to a computer and can see what I've written easier. So this may get edited later. I think Michael needs justice regardless of what's happened. Something is wrong in either scenario.

I agree thank you Ape
This is what Believers/Hoaxers should take into consideration and have more compassion
and respect for those who are hurt and grieving Michael's death regardless of what They believe.
 
If you're in the mood to try and upset the people that are already upset by these beLIEvers (even the word 'LIE' is paradoxistic for what they're trying to prove), you better stop now. What are you trying to say, by the way?.. Besides badmouthing sensible and sensitive = realistic fans like us? How can the beLIEvers not plant even an ounce of doubt into the nonbelievers brain during the moments we're reading their freakish scenarios? I mean really: when somebody writes: "I have proofs that Michael is alive. I know that he is alive" not do things to someone's psyche for those few moments? Even if they're brushing it off completely afterwards?.. It is damaging to their psyche, people are trying to get on with their lives after his death, some are suffering from severe depression, too, if that counts at all, and you are actually daring to make a mockery out of these people for their feelings. ..

The cruelty of some - like yours, Bluetopez, is really something. It's disgusting......That's what it is. I mean, you're even laughing this whole thing off, thank you very much.

If u don't know I was trying to say then why even bother replying? I wasn't being cruel. I was saying the truth. It has been the non believers who are calling MJ a monster and a betrayer to the fans if he was still alive and yes I find that funny! Why? Because the believers have never called MJ anything like that, they don't see it that way at all. People have a right to believe what they want!

Believers are frustrated by the inconsistencies since June 25th and are looking for answers too in there own way. And the LIE in believers does not stand for what u say. But, what they are hearing people say happen to MJ like his death= lie to them. I am not against either side I have compassion for both sides and understand why both think the way they do. If u don't that's fine. But, no need for personal attacks cause u don't even know me!
 
I just find it sad when I see fans convinced that Michael faked his death. I can't get my head round how people are so convinced about it.

I don't undertsand it either, it's very sad like Michael's life and even his death is entertainment for some people. At first attributed fans believing in the Hoax as a way to deal with their pain, they're in denial but almost 2 years later and they are still trying to find any sign to support their theory and are still waiting for Michael to return :bugeyed One fan told me this:

"apparent death" - maybe your subconscience is trying to tell you to wake up - pay attention - see the truth. The media only ever told lies about Michael Jackson; so now that they report he is dead we are to believe them?

:mello: yes that is a real quote. Unfortunately this isn't going away, 30+ years later and people still claim to see elvis.
 
If u don't know I was trying to say then why even bother replying? I wasn't being cruel.

Oh, yes you were. You were laughing it off, just take a look at your post. ...

I was saying the truth. It has been the non believers who are calling MJ a monster and a betrayer to the fans if he was still alive and yes I find that funny!

I didn't. And some others didn't either. What you fail to understand, apparently, is just how difficult it is for non-believers to even fathom Michael might be out there, especially kidnapped, as some 'enlightened' people have said. And you have no right to judge the other non-believers either for their feelings. What the believers are doing is hurting other people, and I won't sit here to explain the many reasons why. If you find all that funny, yes, that is cruel.

Why? Because the believers have never called MJ anything like that, they don't see it that way at all. People have a right to believe what they want!

The way some believers are acting - many of them, also - is by being guided by this very disturbing belief that Michael was a master manipulator (I've to reiterate this) and would very well fake his own death just to get people talking about it, like Teddy Riley also said, even implying that Michael would be gloating at this. And some have been implying that and even clearly being opinionated about it on this very forum. And also that he has the right to disappear, if he wants to - but that is Without Ever including his kids into all this. And our point has always been that he would never do that. That would be someone else. And the way you and some other have been treating this hypothesis and the way it's handled by the non-believers is wrong. Because a 'monster' would be someone else doing that, not him. Michael is gone. So, please don't tell us we've misunderstood any of this. This is a most serious topic. And while, everybody is entitled to believe what they want, their beliefs are not also damaging to their own selves, but to other beings who are being in a way tortured by this nonsense and how they, as adults, are treating this issue - some of them - like it's nothing. When it's hurting other people, they have a right to express that.

Believers are frustrated by the inconsistencies since June 25th and are looking for answers too in there own way. And the LIE in believers does not stand for what u say. But, what they are hearing people say happen to MJ like his death= lie to them. I am not against either side I have compassion for both sides and understand why both think the way they do. If u don't that's fine. But, no need for personal attacks cause u don't even know me!

Some believers are doing much, much more than pointing out inconsistencies and contradictions post-June 25, they are actually would be willing to put their hand on the fire that Michael is alive. When he isn't. How can one not be disturbed by this fallacy? By this fictitiousness? Personal attacks? Very very far from that, I was simply reacting to two of your posts that were very insensitive towards the hurt of non-believers, which you laughed off. I wasn't claiming to know you and won't ever claim to know. I replied to your attitude toward this hurt. Because most of the believers are actually at peace with their illusion that Michael is alive, while those of us who know he isn't, have to put up with that and witness how he , even in death, is treated like this alien or other fantastical creature with abilities that far surpass ours, mere mortals. As well as some are considering him to be Saint Michael reincarnate or even Jesus reincarnate, 'St Michael' who is going to return a Second Time and save us with Jesus. Yes, all these things have been said on this very forum as well. And if this is not worrisome, bothersome or whatever, and how are treating Michael's disappearance as pure entertainment, than... I rest my case and there's no need to be saying anything more, because there would be no use in that.
 
Not all believers are acting and saying the things u are accusing them of. Just like any fan they all think what they want. Just like we see here on this forum with different opinions on the same subject! Like I said everyone has a right to believe what they want, u say I have no right in judging the non-believers and I say u have no right to judge the believers either then. If u don't understand why they do what they do that's fine. But, obviously they feel they do. By the way the only one I've seen say anything about MJ being kidnapped was Sharon, not others. She is the first that I've seen say anything like that.

Anyway, I have accepted along time ago that this is something that will be around for a long time because of the way MJ passed away. Just like other celebs this was to be expected and I find it surprising that some are shocked by that. Just because it's MJ doesn't mean it was gonna be different! If u don't like it, ignore it. That's the only thing I can tell others who are bothered by it cause arguing with me ain't gonna make it go away. Like I said I understand both sides in why the think the way they do, and that's not gonna changed for u or anyone else. That's all I gotta say on this subject.
 
Not all believers are acting and saying the things u are accusing them of. Just like any fan they all think what they want. Just like we see here on this forum with different opinions on the same subject! Like I said everyone has a right to believe what they want, u say I have no right in judging the non-believers and I say u have no right to judge the believers either then. If u don't understand why they do what they do that's fine. But, obviously they feel they do. By the way the only one I've seen say anything about MJ being kidnapped was Sharon, not others. She is the first that I've seen say anything like that.

Anyway, I have accepted along time ago that this is something that will be around for a long time because of the way MJ passed away. Just like other celebs this was to be expected and I find it surprising that some are shocked by that. Just because it's MJ doesn't mean it was gonna be different! If u don't like it, ignore it. That's the only thing I can tell others who are bothered by it cause arguing with me ain't gonna make it go away. Like I said I understand both sides in why the think the way they do, and that's not gonna changed for u or anyone else. That's all I gotta say on this subject.


Fine.

I've not accused anyone, but described the reality of this sad situation. One that is bound to draw unfavorable reactions, unless we're careless robots or just people not sweating over small stuff (and this is no small stuff). And to read of the comparisons between his death and the deaths of Elvis Presley or John Lennon etc are not relevant. People have a right to be shocked about Jackson's death hoax theories on a Michael Jackson forum.

Not to mention I haven't generalized and put all the believers in the same pot like u are accusing me off.

And I'll end this, because I don't want any more arguments with you, nor do I want any more arguments on this already awfully exhausted topic.

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dead@at hoax forum people have to much time on their hands glad jermaine spoke his mind
 
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