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Anyone else watch? I was expecting them to keep talking about Michael but the whole interview was very tasteful and focused on the show. I MIGHT actually watch it once.
 
gerryevans said:
I plan to watch it too. Was Michael mentioned at all?
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The first question was how was the family after Mochaels passing. Jermaine kind of rambled, then one of the brothers (I can't remember which one) just said it was hard losing a brother. Then they moved on. Anderson Cooper is the guest host and he said something about when he met Michael when he was 9 (his mom dated the director of The Wiz) and he said that he saw Michael dance at Studio 54 and he told someone "he should really pursue that" lol. But they really stayed on topic of their show. It was a good interview.
 
ElleBella said:
The first question was how was the family after Mochaels passing. Jermaine kind of rambled, then one of the brothers (I can't remember which one) just said it was hard losing a brother. Then they moved on. Anderson Cooper is the guest host and he said something about when he met Michael when he was 9 (his mom dated the director of The Wiz) and he said that he saw Michael dance at Studio 54 and he told someone "he should really pursue that" lol. But they really stayed on topic of their show. It was a good interview.
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Thanks for the recap. I taped it. Can't wait to get home to see it.

At one time, I wasn't interested in seeing the reality show at all, but lately I've become intrigued. The TV commercials have helped. Looks like it's going to be fun.
 
im watching it right now! i cant wait 2 watch the show!!!
 
It was funny when Anderson asked Jermaine, 'How many kids do you have?', and Marlon jumped in there and said 'He has 50!'. Jermaine got all flustered!

You can tell that some of them are very shy, at first. Marlon seems very funny and talkative. I noticed that he always cracks a joke on the expense of a brother!
 
Is it me or they are not very articulate? They very seldom answered the questions. Especially Jermaine, he tends to rely too much on prepared statement. MJ used to do a similar thing (re: the Oprah interview for example)
Marlon saying he understands why Joe was very strict and no abuse took place. Again makes MJ looks like a whiner and at worst, a liar (Today Show)

but for some reason I still believe MJ over anything anyone else says
 
I think abuse depends on the child. For one child spanking may be considered torture, for another it is no big deal. We were spanked all the time growing (It was 6 of us and we were very active). We would get spankings til we had welts on our arms and legs. I don't think it was abuse. However, it didn't always work. So my mother would start taking things away, like the TV or our art supplies and books.

Now having to sit in a room while you hear your bros and sisters really enjoying something on TV is terrible. That is abuse to me. Just a different kind. For someone as sensitive, though, as Michael seemed to be, the whippings probably scarred him in a way it would not have to the other familiy members.

So the abuse may not be the whippings, but not knowing your children enough to know how to discipline them to the proper degree and not knowing how to temper the beatings with affection. For MJ, a stern talking to would probably have been enough.

Regardless, I will watch at least the first episode.
 
Memefan said:
Is it me or they are not very articulate? They very seldom answered the questions. Especially Jermaine, he tends to rely too much on prepared statement. MJ used to do a similar thing (re: the Oprah interview for example)
Marlon saying he understands why Joe was very strict and no abuse took place. Again makes MJ looks like a whiner and at worst, a liar (Today Show)

but for some reason I still believe MJ over anything anyone else says
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I think they have a different perspective of the term "abuse." Joe himself has said he "whipped" the boys, but did not abuse them.

Today, a whipping is seen as abuse.
 
It went well!!! They interrupted each other at first.. that is siblings for you!!! They were talking about how they grew up and how many kids they had!!! Marlon is a grandpa just like Rebbie.. he has two grandkids!!!
 
I thought the part when they asked who was in charge and they all raised their hands was cute, and Anderson talking about how he was telling someone that he thinks Michael Jackson could have a future in dancing when they were at studio 54 and he didn't know who he was. Poor Anderson...:lol:
 
Sweetiegirl86563 said:
It went well!!! They interrupted each other at first.. that is siblings for you!!! They were talking about how they grew up and how many kids they had!!! Marlon is a grandpa just like Rebbie.. he has two grandkids!!!
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Yeah...I'm surprised Tito didn't mention little Royalty. I think TJ probably doesn't want him in the spotlight, you hardly hear anything about that kid.
 
Memefan said:
Is it me or they are not very articulate? They very seldom answered the questions. Especially Jermaine, he tends to rely too much on prepared statement. MJ used to do a similar thing (re: the Oprah interview for example)
Marlon saying he understands why Joe was very strict and no abuse took place. Again makes MJ looks like a whiner and at worst, a liar (Today Show)

but for some reason I still believe MJ over anything anyone else says
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everyone has different expriences. non of thes said say their father didn't hit thme so why would that make michael look like a liar. marlon said at the time it upsets u but u get over it. michael was asked about the hittings so that wouldn't make him a whiner and he said he forgave his father and loved him so....

go listen to michael's oxford speech he seems to agree with his brothers about his father
 
gerryevans said:
I think they have a different perspective of the term "abuse." Joe himself has said he "whipped" the boys, but did not abuse them.

Today, a whipping is seen as abuse.
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yeah timeshave changed and it depend how u were brought up. today if a parent lays a finger on a child DSS is at the door
 
Michael forgave his father. Why do people still want to argue about this I don't know.

nena said:
yeah timeshave changed and it depend how u were brought up. today if a parent lays a finger on a child DSS is at the door
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I agree 100%! Today they make you feel like you need to just pad your kid!!! My son, who is 2 is all boy! He had a cut on his head from running and falling on the concrete, we took him to the doctor for a check up and they had to put it in his file. The next month he took a short cut out of his bed (jumping over the rail) and hit his night stand so he had to get stitches. Since it happened CPS had to check him out. It's crazy now, kids can't have a bruise without someone screaming for DSS.
 
nena said:
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everyone has different expriences. non of thes said say their father didn't hit thme so why would that make michael look like a liar. marlon said at the time it upsets u but u get over it. michael was asked about the hittings so that wouldn't make him a whiner and he said he forgave his father and loved him so....

go listen to michael's oxford speech he seems to agree with his brothers about his father
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Even if Michael did forgive him, that does not excuse what he did. If Michael was molested by his dad and he forgave him years later, would you all still give him a free pass like you are doing now?

We can say that Michael was overly sensitive and what not, but the fact remains that his father abused him. You do not have those kind of mental scars from simple spankings.

I was spanked more than a few times by my dad and I still remember how much they hurt. My dad was an old school disciplinary and even he said what Michael went through was abuse.

For those who would say that the brothers had no hard feelings, have it ever occur to anyone that Michael may have gotten it must worst than his brothers. He was the star of that family and Joe may had beat him harder, longer, and more frequently to keep him in line. Afterall, do you want your paycheck to get away from you. Even Michael said that he was the golden child and the golden child in an abusive household always get it the worst. Not to mention that Michael actually fought against his father while his brothers stood by and watch.

For the record, even though I hate that rabbi, Michael himself said what Joe's 'spanking' were like. I do not care what anyone says, that was not only abusive, that was torture. It was something white used to do to slaves and no father have the right to do that to their child.

Also, Michael could not have been that forgiven considering that he gave Joe nothing in his will. Not even an allowance. I think that speaks more to Michael's forgiveness than the Oxford's speech. My dad always says that a person's true feelings are always express in their death.
 
Michael is a forgiving person. We should learn from his example.

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Ramona122003 said:
Even if Michael did forgive him, that does not excuse what he did. If Michael was molested by his dad and he forgave him years later, would you all still give him a free pass like you are doing now?

We can say that Michael was overly sensitive and what not, but the fact remains that his father abused him. You do not have those kind of mental scars from simple spankings.

I was spanked more than a few times by my dad and I still remember how much they hurt. My dad was an old school disciplinary and even he said what Michael went through was abuse.

For those who would say that the brothers had no hard feelings, have it ever occur to anyone that Michael may have gotten it must worst than his brothers. He was the star of that family and Joe may had beat him harder, longer, and more frequently to keep him in line. Afterall, do you want your paycheck to get away from you. Even Michael said that he was the golden child and the golden child in an abusive household always get it the worst. Not to mention that Michael actually fought against his father while his brothers stood by and watch.

For the record, even though I hate that rabbi, Michael himself said what Joe's 'spanking' were like. I do not care what anyone says, that was not only abusive, that was torture. It was something white used to do to slaves and no father have the right to do that to their child.

Also, Michael could not have been that forgiven considering that he gave Joe nothing in his will. Not even an allowance. I think that speaks more to Michael's forgiveness than the Oxford's speech. My dad always says that a person's true feelings are always express in their death.
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who cares if michael left joe no money. money does NOT equal love

i don't like what joe did to michael metally or physically either but michael didn't have hate for him any more and forgave him so why should i hate him.
 
Each child responds to discipline differently. When you become an adult, as they all are now, including Michael, you look at your parents and how they disciplined you differently. Especially, once you have kids of your own, then reality sets in. The Oxford Speech said it all, especially when he talked about Jim Crow.

This whole continued rehash of something that Michael forgave and dealt with long ago is getting really old. It was promoted by the media and tabloids after his death. For ratings sake, they chose to ignore anything Michael said about forgiveness or the support his father provided him during the trial.

I wish each and every family member well and God bless them.
 
Didn't Joe break one of Michaels ribs once or something. (I'm trying to remember where I heard that) Edit: Nevermind someone told me it was from those tapes and that Michael said he lost his wind not lost a rib.

I hope a youtube video is up soon for those who missed it.
 
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Ramona122003 said:
Even if Michael did forgive him, that does not excuse what he did. If Michael was molested by his dad and he forgave him years later, would you all still give him a free pass like you are doing now?

We can say that Michael was overly sensitive and what not, but the fact remains that his father abused him. You do not have those kind of mental scars from simple spankings.

I was spanked more than a few times by my dad and I still remember how much they hurt. My dad was an old school disciplinary and even he said what Michael went through was abuse.

For those who would say that the brothers had no hard feelings, have it ever occur to anyone that Michael may have gotten it must worst than his brothers. He was the star of that family and Joe may had beat him harder, longer, and more frequently to keep him in line. Afterall, do you want your paycheck to get away from you. Even Michael said that he was the golden child and the golden child in an abusive household always get it the worst. Not to mention that Michael actually fought against his father while his brothers stood by and watch.

For the record, even though I hate that rabbi, Michael himself said what Joe's 'spanking' were like. I do not care what anyone says, that was not only abusive, that was torture. It was something white used to do to slaves and no father have the right to do that to their child.

Also, Michael could not have been that forgiven considering that he gave Joe nothing in his will. Not even an allowance. I think that speaks more to Michael's forgiveness than the Oxford's speech. My dad always says that a person's true feelings are always express in their death.
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I believe in forgiving but don't minimize the truth. Mental abuse is a MF. That is all I will say on the matter. Happy Holidays.
 
Marlon is a rough-houser. i would not like to get into a joking fest with him because he would make me cry for sure!!

I remember when Joe, Katherine and Jermaine did a live (?) interview on tv ; it was a disaster!!lol. Katherine was telling Joe constantly to shut-up and they so didn't care that millions were watching.lol. That family can't help but be real. They are out-spoken and true to their self regardless of the camera.

MJ did mention that he got hit more than the others because of how he was (feisty etc).
 
elmari said:
Michael is a forgiving person. We should learn from his example.

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I 100% agree. Some fans act like their love and concern for Michael is greater than his father's but I find that quite disrespectful. If there's one thing I know, its that Michael would not want ANY fan of his to hate or badmouth his Father, no matter what. It's not our place. Michael was Joe and Katherine's son, their flesh and blood, BEFORE he was Michael Jackson.
 
Michael Jackson Moonwalk said:
I 100% agree. Some fans act like their love and concern for Michael is greater than his father's but I find that quite disrespectful. If there's one thing I know, its that Michael would not want ANY fan of his to hate or badmouth his Father, no matter what. It's not our place. Michael was Joe and Katherine's son, their flesh and blood, BEFORE he was Michael Jackson.
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Great Post. I had to forgive my dad to. He is like a kid to me now. They get that way as they age. You may disagree with them but they are still your parent.
 
any youtube video of this program will be greatly appreciated :)
 
ElleBella said:
Michael forgave his father. Why do people still want to argue about this I don't know.
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Well, when the brothers are asked about the abuse and their reply is sort of lukewarm or seems to downplay it, you can see why some fans get upset because they are worried it will seem like Mike was lying about the abuse. Obviously, throwing your kid hard up against a wall, breaking his ribs and holding him upside down and pummeling his back and buttocks is not correct punishment; its abuse. Lathering your kid up with oil so that the belt stings more when you beat him (and then beating him) isn't a spanking; it's abuse. Still, he forgave Joe. He loves Joe.

I do agree with what Ramona said it is possible that Mike got it worse than some of the brothers. They might have gotten beat less and think of Joe's type of parenting differently (Jermaine?). Another possibility is that they talked about it before (ex. Marlon) and he or the other brothers don't want to discuss it in detail any more. They might have agreed with each other to just say that 'Joe was strict' and blah blah blah. If the last part is how they feel, they could say "no comment" or 'I don't want to discuss it.'

Memefan said:
Is it me or they are not very articulate? They very seldom answered the questions. Especially Jermaine, he tends to rely too much on prepared statement. MJ used to do a similar thing (re: the Oprah interview for example)
Marlon saying he understands why Joe was very strict and no abuse took place. Again makes MJ looks like a whiner and at worst, a liar (Today Show)

but for some reason I still believe MJ over anything anyone else says
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:brow: Did Marlon really say that? Because it completely contradicts what he's said before. This is the same person who describe Joe holding Mike upside down and pummeling him. Who said in Katherine's book that he'd never beat his kids and he doesn't agree with Joe's type of parenting. I'm going to finish watching that Today Show interview...

Does anybody have any video of this Regis & Kelly interview?
 
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