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Jackson family tribute concert / October 8th, 2011 / Initial details @ post 87

Do you plan to attend Michael Forever Tribute?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 1.7%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 13 7.3%

  • No

    Votes: 162 91.0%
  • Total voters
    178
As a community committed to protecting Michael's legacy, I feel it is our duty to critically analyse and discuss ANYTHING that impacts on that legacy. On the surface, a tribute concert is a great idea but we have to put things in context. And in this context, Katherine has a proven track record of involving Michael's children in things that they do not need to be involved in. We can shake this any way we like, but the simple fact of the matter is she promised the appearance of those children for $100,000!

I do take the point that we have to be careful HOW we critically analyse and discuss things. And there are rules in place for that. Most of the time members observe and respect those rules. Sometimes we just need a gentle nudge to remind us of what is not appropriate.

So this is my gentle reminder - as stories appear over the weekend and in the coming weeks, let us keep it hard-hitting but respectful!
 
Ramona122003 said:
I can only see the more hardcore Jackson/Michael fans supporting this event. Most fans most likely feel like us and the casual person most likely won't give a damn either way
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I consider myself a hardcore Michael fan and I will not even contend supporting this event. If I buy tickets or support, I would be saying to myself that that is what he deserves. Does he deserve a concert honoring him that centers on overpriced tickets; a charity that was not his most important charity; use of his children to draw crowds; B level artists; no children involved; created without a theme, heart, or love; encourages fighting among fans; the answer is a big NO. I have said it many times and will continue to say it. I am waiting for the real tribute to come along!!
 
It's really sad to see this happening so publicly. Though I agree with most of the consensus here, I really don't want this to fail because in the end the only person that will be "hurt" and ridiculed if it fails will be Michael. Who would really bother to malign the rest of the Jacksons (minus Janet who has been MIA in this debacle)when most could care less about them prior to Michael's death? Also, can this really be considered a Jackson family venture? By Jermaine's own admission, this hastily put together company approached them dangling money seeking their participation in this nearly completed tribute concept. Its difficult to see this as nothing more than lending one's name and availability for appearances to give this tribute some credibility in exchange for money. Of course they have every right to do that; however, I have a right to question its sincerity. Add to that the very public disagreement among their family, the atmosphere on the Facebook page, ticket pricing, lack of line-up when announcing the show, etc etc etc and it gives off a bad vibe. Its as if you feel cheated even though you haven't bought a ticket. Tributes are suppose to bring smiles and warm rememberance yet this one is doing the exact opposite for many. I wish them luck.
 
Alayasha said:
I really don't want this to fail because in the end the only person that will be "hurt" and ridiculed if it fails will be Michael.
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I see your point but Michael will be ridiculed regardless, so we have to support something from the heart and because it is the right thing to do, I think. Remember the various projects, the Gary convention, Gary museum, Belt fiasco, Vienna tribute, Jackson brothers planning a show (as seen in their reality show), all these were planned in the name of Michael exception for the brothers show which was done with a Michael Connection as bait. ALL these failed!!!! Did Michael get a massive backlash where they said no one is interested in him anymore? Not Really. After all these fiascos the Estate continued to generate huge revenues and Cirque was able to sell huge numbers of tickets, so there is still an interest in Michael.

I know many, like you, will have that fear and therefore want to support such ventures, but sometimes it is best to have patience and wait for that great treat that comes in the end.
 
If those people weren't his family but regular 'friends, employees' etc there'd be no limitations, NONE WHATSOEVER. Just because they're Jackson's critisism shouldn't be limited.
This tribute concert is not worthy of Michael, period. It's solely organized for their personal gain. Such a badly organized tribute filled with has beens with the exception of ONE or TWO names, may fit the like's of Jermaine or the Jackson's themselves, but not Michael. This tribute is NOT about Michael, it's NEVER been about Michael. The Jackson's again are trying to hide their own greed by using Michael's name as an excuse. Michael is AGAIN being exploited by them. I'm asking when will this ever stop?! When will they ever stop?! Why are they lacking so much on dignity?! What's going to be next??! I don't understand how anyone can still support them in their continuous desparate efforts to exploit Michael, his children and his fans. When will people stop giving them a free pass for nearly everything?! They've done so much, so so much, but I think this one and the Howard Mann thing's taking the cake. I couldn't be more digusted with them than I am now.
 
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I don't see how Michael can be blamed. From early on, the media has been reporting the fans' discontent. In contrast, there is a high demand for the Cirque du Soleil shows. Put, two and two together and they (the media) should get it (hopefully).
 
Roosje said:
About the concert: who is in the line-up for sure? I read Smokey Robinson is in, that would be just wonderful. I hope Stevie Wonder comes along to.
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I haven't seen Smokey's name up on the website listing which is: 3T, Alien Ant Farm, Cee Lo Green, Christina Aquilera, Craig David, Jackson Brothers, JLS, Leona Lewis.

Not exactly a galaxy of stars in my opinion, but they say there's more to come.
 
Rhilo said:
I don't see how Michael can be blamed. From early on, the media has been reporting the fans' discontent. In contrast, there is a high demand for the Cirque du Soleil shows. Put, two and two together and they (the media) should get it (hopefully).
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I agree, you would think it was obvious to anyone who bothered to read below the surface that things aren't quite legitimate with this tribute. Yet, like all things Jackson (negative) somehow Michael is connected to it. Just this morning I read that the promoters may be having difficulty drawing big acts because of negativity in Michael's life. I didn't bother posting it here because I don't want to contribute to giving the article hits. Reading that prompted me to post here. I just want to reiterate that I don't support this concert as it is and I knew what the outcome would be the moment it was announced. Yet I know how the media can be. Heck some even blame Michael for his brothers failed music careers. Like someone mentioned earlier, this is a train wreck starring the estates beneficiaries and the only reason it is being covered in the press is because Michael. When this fails I can't imagine headlines denouncing how Michael's children have been exploited. If that were the case, those headlines could have started after his memorial and continued to today yet we continue to hear how much their lives have improved. Hopefully this will get very little press attention when it fails and it won't be as easy finding more "business partners".
 
I am so disgusted by the idea that MJ kids are being used like caged monkeys. This is the worst form of exploitation in mankind history. I hope this concert fails for the sake of MJ legacy since his estate is not involved.
 
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Alayasha said:
Just this morning I read that the promoters may be having difficulty drawing big acts because of negativity in Michael's life.
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That's the thing the media will be negative regardless. On one hand they say fans are mad at the pricing and timing so there is a lack of interest and on the other hand they say no big acts because of Michael's life. They cannot make up their minds, so why give them our attention? The record will show that the Jacksons cannot produce major events and garner major artists, not because of Michael, but because of the history of Jackson productions.

This is just a minor concert for Michael and should be seen as such.
 
twinklEE said:
I couldn't be more digusted with them than I am now, even if they were to dig up Michael remains and eat them up in a reality show, that's how fed up I am of them.
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I think you would be a little more disgusted.
 
that family is completely wacky .i just hope that this whole thing gets cancelled that is all i want right now.*f****** nightmare*
 
passy001 said:
I am so disgusted by the idea that MJ kids are being used like caged monkeys. This is the worst form of exploitation in mankind history. I hope this concert fails for the sake of MJ legacy since his estate is not involved.
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Yeah, the whole thing is just sad. And what's even more sad is the fact that them being exploited won't even be called out.

I really do hope this thing flops hard. If this succeeds, expect "tributes" in Japan, Bahrain and other odd places.
 
KingMikeJ said:
I think you would be a little more disgusted.
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Lol!

At this point, it seems like the only "tribute" in this concert will be coming from Michael's kids. It's sad that they'll be giving their time to help another company make a profit.

Honestly, I don't see random artists singng Michael's songs as a tribute. Michael really emphasized charity, helping people, the environment, etc. A fitting tribute for Michael would basically be a non-profit venture, IMO. It should be a huge celebration of his music and life. Maybe someday MJ's kids will organize a proper tribute for Michael.
 
taimeka16 said:
Whatever happens,happens.we can't do.anything about it.just put it in gods hands and let him handle it.
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But we can do something about it. Here is some of the ways: If we do not buy tickets and there are not enough seats sold, then the show will be cancelled. If you buy many tickets and there are enough to cover costs and profits, the show will go on. So you see humans are not just aimless things in the universe without will and force, and do have the ability to cause change and events in the world.

And I may add Taimeka that God is behind that ability we have to cause change. That is why he gave us a will and all the other things that go with it, but I digress.
 
So that was what the 100k bribe was for.produce the kids.but lets make it look like its a donation to a trust fund for kids that are worth over a billion.i sometimes wonder if they think we came down in the ladt shower.

The only fans that will go to this are ones that are clueless about the family.dontt go on the net etc. Or dont care about what the famiky are doing and thise who feel guilty if they dont go.which is what the family are relaying on.fans who buy and go to anything with mjs nane on cause they love him so much.

Poor kids clueless as to how they are been used.
 
One day the kids will grow up and they will be heartbroken when they realize that they were used again and again by their own family
 
Petrarose said:
But we can do something about it. Here is some of the ways: If we do not buy tickets and there are not enough seats sold, then the show will be cancelled. If you buy many tickets and there are enough to cover costs and profits, the show will go on. So you see humans are not just aimless things in the universe without will and force, and do have the ability to cause change and events in the world.And I may add Taimeka that God is behind that ability we have to cause change. That is why he gave us a will and all the other things that go with it, but I digress.
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What I meant is the family is going to do what they want to wether we like it or not. Now if fans don't show up. To the concert at all know that would be hilarious.but I will give u props u do have a point
 
Roosje said:
^^ It's just way out of proportion. The way Katherine talked about Michael on the Oprah niterview was mostly loving, and I did not think the nose comment everyone is going on and on about was mean in any way. She just expressed how she felt, and I understands that view from her as a mother who loves her child the way he/she naturally is. But my point was that it's not our place to judge them. We are distant bystanders. and I don't agree at all that celebrity's are fair game when it comes to criticism. MJ fans should know so I reckon. Everybody should be treated with respect, and if that's too hard, at least with politeness. It's not about being naive, it's just that the hating does not bring anything other than negativity.
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Not fueled by hate and negativity is more than a damn good thing. Kudos to you for not being a wimpy follower. Always thought others would be the ones hell -bent on destroying MJ'S legacy.
 
I dont think it has anything to do with any celebrity status, not from what I've seen. We are bystanders, we dont know these people personally and probably never will. However, in life, public actions are the only thing you can "judge" people on. No one here I think knew Pol Pot, or Ceausescu personally. But you know what they did. You know their actions, and that's how you can make an opinion on them. If someone steals your wallet, you wont have a very good opinion of them, but you dont know them personally.(unless you have weird friends but that's another story). I, and many others from what I've read, mad an opinion on that concert and the involvement of part of the Jackson family, according of what I know and what I've seen, from their public actions.


Re- Oprah interview, whatever KJ's feelings about her son physical appearance, I dont think it was necessary to talk about it publicly (again), on Tv, and especially on Oprah. Considering the kind of criticism, ridicule, and rumors Michael had to go through because of it, it was absolutely inappropriate.
 
Still waiting for "the worlds greatest performing artists" to be announced. Any idea when the rest of the acts are going to be announced??
 
Many of you raise some great points Re: press reaction to a failure of epic proportion of this tribute. Do you think more fan clubs should have come out and denounced it?

People need to be aware that fans aren't supporting this tribute...so it fails, MJ and his legacy don't get dragged down yet again.

I noticed in ALL CNN's report, they often mentioned the MJFC..that apparently released a statement supporting Jermaine & Randy's position that the tribute shouldn't be held during the trial.

I wonder if more fan clubs came out with a statements....the media & the public would take notice.

If MJFC released a statement, what is stopping MJJC from taking a position & doing the same?
 
Because we dont all share the same opinion on it, I guess. That would not be fair for those who either support or have no definite opinion. :/
 
The only ppl trying to destroy his legacy are his family.saying they feel sorry for murray calling mj a terrible parent calling him a druggie. Some of the few ppl who loved him unconditionally were his fans as stated by mj many a times.Fine if your care about the family more than mj. Then perhaps you should be posting on a jackson family board.because obviously the ppl on this board support mj and dont appreciate mj being attacked and used along with his kids regardless of whos doing it.family or not those who hurt mj will be attacked by his fans.its called loving and supporting someone who isnt here to defend themselves
 
That may be, but it shouldn't be that hard to mention in your statement that some do, and some don't, I guess... hence the reason for the poll.I stand behind the MJFC, so I'm all for them on that statement. I only wonder though, why other fan groups can get a consensus that is fair, and report that, without straddling the fence, this is no criticism just observation. Noone ever agrees on EVERYTHING.

Ben said:
Because we dont all share the same opinion on it, I guess. That would not be fair for those who either support or have no definite opinion. :/
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