Islam would have saved MJ: Brother

I will not bash Jermaine.(although I want to). I wont even say anything about the subject line of the thread..(I would Never judge another religion).....All I can say ..Michael knew what he was interested in...when it came to any form of religion...I believe he may of had a little belief in all of them. He was such an angel..he had to of..
 
The first part of this post will be quite personal.

I'm a Muslim and I have to say that "it would make him worse" comment is an insult and unbelievably offensive. You don't need to love, understand or even approve of a religion but at least you can be respectful and do not turn this into "better -worse" or "superior - inferior" argument.

as to Jermaine's comment although I can see what he's saying (he's referring to one of the basic principles and beliefs but I won't go into it as I don't want to turn this into a religious debate) and although I'm a Muslim like I said before, I do not think that Islam (or any other religion for that matter) could be a magic savior. It goes much more deeper than just converting to a religion ,I think.
 
The first part of this post will be quite personal.

I'm a Muslim and I have to say that "it would make him worse" comment is an insult and unbelievably offensive. You don't need to love, understand or even approve of a religion but at least you can be respectful and do not turn this into "better -worse" or "superior - inferior" argument.

as to Jermaine's comment although I can see what he's saying (he's referring to one of the basic principles and beliefs but I won't go into it as I don't want to turn this into a religious debate) and although I'm a Muslim like I said before, I do not think that Islam (or any other religion for that matter) could be a magic savior. It goes much more deeper than just converting to a religion ,I think.

thank you very much.
the poster even implied that MJ was a bad person and Islam will make him worse !

beside there is a little fact you have to remember, MJ was killed !
 
The first part of this post will be quite personal.

I'm a Muslim and I have to say that "it would make him worse" comment is an insult and unbelievably offensive. You don't need to love, understand or even approve of a religion but at least you can be respectful and do not turn this into "better -worse" or "superior - inferior" argument.

Im a Muslim too, and I have to agree with Ivy. It really sickens me when I see members on this very board talk like that. I dont understand why people think so ignorantly, and at the same time be an MJ fan. You know he would be the last to say such a thing.... But it doesnt matter what religion MJ chose to be a part of, that's not what is important, and frankly none of our business.
 
Guys, i am sure you have heard this a zillion times: You will never win an argument about RELIGION or POLITICS.
 
^^ I agree with both "ivy & ArabianGirl~AllTheTime", and we are not here to insult or to be insulted, that post was offensive and totally ignorant, but i have to remind you that Islam is all about peace, love and unity. michael has always taught us to love, to care for each other regardless of race, the religion we practice, unfortunately, there are still ignorant people who don't seem to understand that. no matter what background you came from and what religion you practice, i strongly believe that you don't represent your religion, because there are always a few people who ruin the image of their religion, YES! Islam would might have saved him, but i believe that michael was seriously hurt by almost everyone and after all he was killed.
 
It is in poor taste to use your brother's death to promote your religion. No matter what religion. Michael's problems had nothing to do with what religion he practiced he was desperate for something we take for granted. Jermaine going there is just one more example of how he thinks the world revolves around him
 
If Michael wanted to convert to Islam, he would have done it, I am sure. But he didn't. That should be the end of that discussion once and for all. Michael was curious about different religions, he studied them and that's all that it was. As for his bodyguards being Muslim, I am sure Michael didn't hire religion, he hired professionalism.

Hmm... am I wrong but the bodygaurds that did do that interview on good morning america and so on, they were not from nation of islam, were they? So how does that add up to what Jermaine said....
 
No, Jermaine, Islam would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.
Holidays would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.
Music would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.
Every other thing you can mention would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.

The only thing that would have saved Michael Jackson is if people cared about his heart more than his money.
 
No, Jermaine, Islam would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.
Holidays would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.
Music would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.
Every other thing you can mention would NOT have saved Michael Jackson.

The only thing that would have saved Michael Jackson is if people cared about his heart more than his money.

I totally agree with u, I also think religion, belief and spirituality to be very personal its nun of Jermaine's or anyone else's business what he had Faith in. Nun.
 
a proper dr would have saved him. anyway this story is months old. who cares.
 
And the whole "religion would have saved MJ" talk is another way of blaming him for his death. As if Michael wasn't a good person anyway! It doesn't and didn't matter how good he was, it doesn't protect him because other people's hearts are corrupted.
 
Hmm... am I wrong but the bodygaurds that did do that interview on good morning america and so on, they were not from nation of islam, were they? So how does that add up to what Jermaine said....


I hope no one confuses the religion of Islam with the Nation of Islam. They are totally different. Those who believe in the Nation of Islam beliefs aren't Muslims. I'm not directing this to the person whom I quoted. I just wanted to clarify this common misconception for anyone who may be confused and think Islam and Nation of Islam "movement, for lack of a better word" are associated.
 
I hope no one confuses the religion of Islam with the Nation of Islam. They are totally different. Those who believe in the Nation of Islam beliefs aren't Muslims. I'm not directing this to the person whom I quoted. I just wanted to clarify this common misconception for anyone who may be confused and think Islam and Nation of Islam "movement, for lack of a better word" are associated.

no no, I know that. What I was going at was that Jermaine said that Michael had muslims around him and that was a sign somehow that he trusted Islam and so on. What I question how true that statement is and then pointing to the three bodygaurds that have been around in the media latley, maybe they are muslims, I don't know. that's why I'm wondering. Just got the imprssion (don't ask me how lol) that they weren't...
 
Michael seemed to have his own religion and that was his love for the world and everything and everyone on it.

It doens't matter whether your left or right, muslim or catholic. We all live on this 1 planet and we should love each other no matter who we are.
 
Michael seemed to have his own religion and that was his love for the world and everything and everyone on it.

It doens't matter whether your left or right, muslim or catholic. We all live on this 1 planet and we should love each other no matter who we are.

Own and own, I think it's pretty clear that Michael still had the religion he was raised in. I know he left JW a longt time ago but I mean, if you listen to him talk aboubt his faith, which he does a lot and did so until the very end, it's always God, who he have refered to as Jehoova many times, redaing the Bible and so on and so on. We know he did go to the Kingdom Hall from time to time and if what Janet said on Oprah is true, he took his children there too.
I know he studied a lot of religions but so do a lot of us. It's just my opinion but from what I hear coming out of Michael's mouth, the faith he had was the JW one. I never heard him refering to any other religion when he talked about his faith.

But I do agree with everyone, his religion is his thing and not ours but he has been very open with it so I don't know why it's like he hasn't said all the things he has about his faith.
 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...have-saved-MJ-Brother/articleshow/6082182.cms

On the anniversary of Michael Jackson’s untimely death aged 50, the King of Pop’s older brother and fellow member of The Jackson Five, Jermaine Jackson, spoke to BBC World Service. Excerpts from the interview...

Why do you say that Islam would have saved Michael Jackson?
I felt that if Michael had embraced Islam he would still be here today and I say that for many reasons. Because when you are 100 per cent clear in your mind as to who you are and what you are and why you are and everybody around you, then things change in a way that’s better for you. It’s just having that strength. God is so powerful. He was reading a lot of books, I brought him books from Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. I was the one who originally put him in Bahrain because I wanted him to get out of America because it was having a cherry-picking time on my brother.

But he wasn’t willing to convert, was he?
Not that he wasn’t willing to convert. All of his security became Muslims because he trusted Islam, because these are people who would lay their lives down and also who were trying to be the best kind of human beings they could possibly be, not for Michael Jackson, for Allah. So having those people around, you knew that you would be protected because it is protection from God.

Michael was most concerned about children around the world going to bed without food. He would talk about it. And he was concerned about our planet. And that was his whole thing – to raise awareness. He was doing these things before the Al Gores, and global warming-ists, he was on it. And he sung about it. He did videos about it. Spent millions and millions and millions of dollars on videos just to show the world for three minutes, look at what we are doing.

Did you ever believe the child molestation charges brought against him? Do you believe them?
Well, they were certainly discounted in court.He was cleared on all counts. The child Jordan Chandler came and said he had never touched him. His father committed suicide. And that’s what I mean about the media trying to attack my brother and to shame him around the world because of something that they know he did not do. And still a lot of people don’t want to believe it. The love that they are giving my brother now that he is dead, is the love they should have shown him when he was alive. The FBI investigated my brother for 17 years and found nothing. And then they just vindicated him after his death. So that’s the BS that America does. It’s bullshit. And I will say they clearly should have given him that when he was alive. That would have made him feel better within his heart.

What’s it been like since Michael’s passing?
It’s been tough. There are no words to describe the feeling. We’ll never get over it.

Do you miss him?
I miss him very, very much because we’ve been so connected throughout our lives, since the very beginning. Healing comes from performing the songs, accepting awards on his behalf, doing tributes because it’s just something that you can’t explain.

Do you see your role now as protecting Michael’s legacy?
Not just my responsibility, the whole family’s. Jackie’s, Rebbie’s, Tito’s, Marlon’s, Randy’s, Janet’s, La Toya’s, myself. It’s all of our role, to keep not just his legacy alive but the entire Jackson family. Because we are a family first, before all of this music and success. We’re family. We were a family before that, so even if that goes away we will continue to be a family.

I find the part in purple distressing - Michael was Jermaine's brother. He claims to have loved him very much, yet he says that healing comes from tributes and collecting awards, etc. Now, I love Michael's music, man I do, but his spirit, his soul, his personality...he was a humanitarian. He loved people and he loved this planet. Where is this mentioned? He talks about charity briefly I guess.

How close were they? It just seems that he never thought of his brother as a relative, but as a performer who he admired, like many other celebrities did and still do. I find this confusing :doh:
 
I wouldn't count on it, Jermaine. His blanket statements about Islam are laughable at best, and biased throughout. I am sure there are a lot of Muslims who seek to be the best people they can be, but there are a lot of others who seek the same, without Islam. Likewise, there are a lot of Muslims who clearly do not ascribe to that philosophy.

As for his other statements, well, we all know that Michael brought them all to the top. I would like to see Jermaine acknowledge that, if nothing else.
 
I think it would have made him worse to be honest.

Hmm, haven't you also said before that your friends dislike Muslims? Those two comments combined paint a pretty hateful picture of you :).

I'm not Muslim but my family is, and I consider many of them to be better people than many Christians/Atheists/etc I've also encountered. IE I know Muslims who wouldn't sit around talking about how much they hate people of a different religion.

Thanks.
 
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