IJCSLY Single with "Don't Be Messin' Round" bonus track [Discussion]

Re: IJCSLY re-issue with "Don't Be Messin' Around" bonus track

Let's hope DBMR will NOT be on the Bad25 album then, to give this singles something special. I hope Sony will use other tracks for bonus on the album....
 
Re: IJCSLY re-issue with "Don't Be Messin' Around" bonus track

Does anyone have lyrics of the song ?
 
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Let's hope DBMR will NOT be on the Bad25 album then, to give this singles something special. I hope Sony will use other tracks for bonus on the album....

Why not? The have enough space on a second CD for previously unreleased material from the sessions.
 
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Exactly. I think it's pretty clear that it's not meant for charts and the general public. It's simply a collectors item for hard core fans (hence the release on vinyl).


There's nothing 'collectable' about a reissued single. The original 80s single perhaps, but not the reissue because it'll never be worth anything to anybody.
In those countries where a CD single won't be released, there is definitely nothing 'collectable' about a digital file. Anybody whose half interested in the demo will just listen on Youtube once or twice and then move on with their life.

As you said, it's clear this product has no chance of attracting attention from the general public and therefore no chance of attracting anything more than a minimal volume of sales, resulting in very low chart posittons at best. So what's the point?
There are relatively few people who collect re-releases of products they already own - it's a very small target market made of a few hardcore fans, so why use a product that has minimal appeal as a promotional tool? Makes no sense to me.

I'd like to see BAD25 succeed. The pepsi cans are a good move forward, but this product (IMO) is pointless.
Anyway, I said my piece.
 
Re: IJCSLY re-issue with "Don't Be Messin' Around" bonus track

Tracklist

01.
Michael Jackson - I Just Can't Stop Loving You - (Album Version) 04:26
02.
Michael Jackson - Don't Be Messin' 'Round - (demo) 04:25

Finally full version of I Just Can't Stop Loving You!!! But they could have included Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu & unreleased French version.
 
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES....don't be messing around will be untouched.....i am now good
 
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This might be an unpopular post but I have to say it.
I don't see the point of re-releasing the old version of IJCSLY when any fan and anybody who's bought one of the millions of greatest hits albums sold over past few years will already have it. What radio station will play it? Who are they trying to sell this too??
Also, while they might satisfy the hard core fanbase (such as us on MJJC) with the demo of DBMA, it is not going to entice casual fans or the general public to buy the single. They don't care about some unfinished recording, just like I don't care if a record company releases some demos by Queen or Elvis or Tupac. I would not buy a single from them if I already owned the song on a greatest hits, and the addition of a demo track would not make me buy it either. Similarly the single would not make me want to buy their album. The only thing to do that would be something new, something populer.
If a version of either song was released that would appeal to a wider audience like Elvis' "A little less conversation" then I would buy it. the original demo and original album versions could be included on the single if they record execs wanted to do it but they have to give people a reason to buy the track(s). So far there is no reason for me to buy the single, so I won't.
This single will not get radio play, won't get chart positions, and so will do nothing to promote the BAD25 album to the general public IMO.

They tried to do something to appeal to a wider audience & general public (MICHAEL album) and they FAILED. Fans should be their primary market. There is enough (more than general public who buys albums) MJ fans and if every fan buy this project they will make more money and everybody will be happy, the fans because we got what we want (full version of IJCSLY is out of print since forever and new song), Sony will get what they want - money. So who cares about general public?

Also when MJ was still alive he did new versions of classic songs for Thriller 25 to appeal to a wider audience and those new versions didn't do well on the charts especially in the US. And for the fans the best songs on that album was For All Time & Got The Hots.
 
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Tracklist
Finally full version of I Just Can't Stop Loving You!!! But they could have included Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu & unreleased French version.

What do you mean by FULL version?
 
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I meant album version with spoken intro not the single version which was released on later pressings of Bad and Bad Special Edition, and all greatest hits collections.

Length 4:25 (Album Version)
4:11 (7" Edit)
 
Re: IJCSLY re-issue with "Don't Be Messin' Around" bonus track

So is all this news confirmed? When will the single and cd come out?
 
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I meant album version with spoken intro not the single version which was released on later pressings of Bad and Bad Special Edition, and all greatest hits collections.

Length 4:25 (Album Version)
4:11 (7" Edit)

Album version with spoken intro is also the single version.
 
becane;3636564 said:
Album version with spoken intro is also the single version.

Ok, than 7" Edit.

Album Version – 4:25
7" Version – 4:11 - This version replaced the original version on the later releases of Bad
 
Re: IJCSLY re-issue with "Don't Be Messin' Around" bonus track

why does the USA only have the vinyl? :(
 
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Yeah, release of Spanish and French versions could be a good move. They are little known and sound fresh, but at the same time have old melody that everybody knows and loves. That could give them some airplay. I wonder why Sony didn't go for it.
 
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Gotta get CD & Vinyl of this :p
 
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To each their own of course, but for me it is the opposite. The riff Kravitz added just does not have the same power as the original. It also kinda detracts from the vocals, where the original complemented them. Again, just my opinion of course.


You can still tell a lot about the instrumentation based on those 20 seconds we have of the demo.

-The beat is much more of a typical MJ beat (louder snare, more groove). It packs much more of a punch.
-The bass sounds much cleaner.
-The instrumentation is more stripped down.
-It features the kind of ominous strings that MJ used in several songs, in line with the dark message of the song, rather than the exuberant horns.
-No effects on MJ's vocals
-The mix is much cleaner. Everything sounds kinda muddled in Teddy's mix.

To me, all of these already make the demo much better. I also agree with T.N.A. that it just conveys a different emotion. As I already said, the demo feels much darker, whereas the original sounds more like a very nice but somewhat more generic uptempo banger. And, of course, I prefer hearing the songs the way MJ left them anyway.

Can you or someone post a link to the demo? I'd like to hear it. Thank you.
 
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why does the USA only have the vinyl? :(

CD singles are hardly released in the USA anymore. Digital downloads killed the CD single format. None of the singles from Thriller 25 or Michael were ever released as a CD single in the USA. The last CD single from MJ in the USA was One More Chance.
 
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Perhaps Amazon can have the CD as an import. Does anyone know if Amazon Germany ships to USA?
 
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Thank you. By the way, the video was removed because the YouTube account was deactivated for multiple third party copyright infringement issues. So if there is another link to the demo, can you please provide? Thank you much.

The demo never leaked online (in full, mind you) though a few snippets are available online. The demo is known to exist among traders.

That removed youtube link wasn't the demo, can't even remember what it was. I was talking about the article.
 
Re: IJCSLY re-issue with "Don't Be Messin' Around" bonus track

Why not? The have enough space on a second CD for previously unreleased material from the sessions.
Just to give the SINGLE a boost of interest and more reason to buy for people. If DBMR is also on the album, the single is not interesting anymore for people to buy, because boths songs are also on the album ;)
 
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I can't wait for this to be released!!

I am dying to hear DBMA!!!

When do you guys think it will leak? - All songs leak before release these days, so did Michael... - So what's your guess? - When will it leak?
 
Re: IJCSLY re-issue with "Don't Be Messin' Around" bonus track

I can't wait for this to be released!!

I am dying to hear DBMA!!!

When do you guys think it will leak? - All songs leak before release these days, so did Michael... - So what's your guess? - When will it leak?

It will most likely leak somewhere at the moment the "shops" have the singles in stock.
 
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