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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

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elusive moonwalker said:
I hope people are taking note
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He must really think people are stupid to see that all this talk about him being unable to work in the entertainment field is utter :bs
 
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well... he obviously tries a new trategy - to "start over"... and if he fails, he can blame only MJ and molestation..., and have the agenda of a ruined life.
I think there is something fishy, for the last decade... he has seemed to be ... like an addict ... I do believe he was/is an addict to someting.
 
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You know that I never hear of Wade (or other allegations) unless I check this forum.

I think the media no longer want to report on anything unless there is something concrete i.e. Evidence.

And we're talking about the media who doesn't believe in evidence. Maybe the lies no longer sell.
 
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Obviously you dont read Daily Fail, the Fun or other British tab mags.
Good luck.
 
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barbee0715 said:
I would think this kind of stuff would just sabotage his case. That's what they said-he COULDN'T WORK ANY MORE!!!!!
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Wait till they play The way you make me feel at his dance studio and he will just smile and shrug like Arvizo did at his wedding.
This and stuff like selling MJ's picture on ebay or outlandish claims like Mj's companies were the most sophisticated child sex organizations show that he thinks he can get away with everything. He knows the media if fully on his side and won't question him no matter what he says or does. His facebook friends see this and don't question him either. I just don't get how those people can still support him and not see his true colors.
 
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Rather difficult to explain someones non intrest in sex with a porn collection in your house and being such a sexualised performer.

Bottom line most ppl will never understand the sharing bed situation. Heck i bet a huge amount of fans dont as of course its not normal.but mj wasnt normal and i say that in the most respectable way.but fans can see beyond it been as alot of people will think ie sexual because we have followed mj know him inside out.heck alot became friends with him. Mjs quirks were just that and he wasnt perfect and we loved him for that. He danced to his own beat and did what he felt right regardless of repercussions
 
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Guys this is not a Jordan Chandler thread, please keep to the title of the thread - your post's will be moved to a soon to be created 1993 case files thread.

**Edit** your posts have now been moved to the 1993 case thread here - http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...All-Things-Jordan-and-Evan-Chandler-Go-Here** please continue your discussions there.

Thanks
 
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By the way has there begin any updated on this mess where are we now?
 
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Fans that are in the area.. GO to that!! he wants to go to an open forum in the dance community.. Well sure!! lets see how the dance community reacts to him
 
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Well look like this is a rap going back to teaching dances again. thought he could not do that anymore. Wade you need to go up under a rock and stay there
 
 
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respect77 said:
Talking about Robson, dancing and choreography, it just occured to me that in the short film he made at Neverland in 2007, Neverland is the metaphor for peace, inner peace, getting out of prison, calming down etc - as opposed to the place in the first part of the film. Neverland is peace and freedom. How come if it was such a place of horror for Wade as a child?

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Slick bastard.......I wonder if the MJ estate know about this "film"?
 
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^Those credits LMAO
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Rather difficult to explain someones non intrest in sex with a porn collection in your house and being such a sexualised performer.
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Performance is like acting, , for example just because he and Naomi seem to have fun with each other does not mean MJ wanted to do that off camera too. And watching sex is a far cry from doing it.

elusive moonwalker said:
Bottom line most ppl will never understand the sharing bed situation. Heck i bet a huge amount of fans dont as of course its not normal.but mj wasnt normal and i say that in the most respectable way
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If MJ had grown up sleeping alone instead of sharing beds with his brothers and even adults I don't think as an adult he would have viewed the situation as acceptable. But as he told Ed Bradley "that happened to me many times when I was little". To Schmuley he was talking about some Jewish lawyers or accountants sleeping next to him in his bed when he was little. Now how the heck did that happen? And strangely enough Schmuley didn't even react.

And of course there were the kids like Wade who were virtually begging to sleep in his bed. He didn't have the heart to turn them away.

respect77 said:
Talking about Robson, dancing and choreography, it just occured to me that in the short film he made at Neverland in 2007, Neverland is the metaphor for peace, inner peace, getting out of prison, calming down etc - as opposed to the place in the first part of the film. Neverland is peace and freedom. How come if it was such a place of horror for Wade as a child?
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Good point. this film also explains why Wade didn't become the "international superstar" he thinks he was destined to be.
He is a shitty director and a mediocre choreographer. His films are trying way too hard to be dramatic.
 
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^^You gotta pay those fees and taxes if you want to keep your business. No wonder he's looking for clients.

Read that Joseph is in Hawaii now, enjoying a little vacation. Would be hilarious to me if he showed up at Wade's class.
 
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barbee0715 said:
^^You gotta pay those fees and taxes if you want to keep your business. No wonder he's looking for clients.

Read that Joseph is in Hawaii now, enjoying a little vacation. Would be hilarious to me if he showed up at Wade's class.
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Oh yeah, if he sees Joseph he'd be like "Oh $#!^" and I bet ya he's gonna kick Robson's @$$ for lying and backstab his son while he's in heaven.
 
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barbee0715 said:
^^You gotta pay those fees and taxes if you want to keep your business. No wonder he's looking for clients.
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He created Wajero Entertainment Inct. in Jan 2014 almost two years after his "realization" and starting to associate
the entertainment industry with his "abuse". He is brazen because he knows noone in the media will draw attention
to his blatant lies
 
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He's just crazy. Or stupid. You know the Estate is bound to know about this. I'm surprised that Finaldi hasn't curtailed this kind of stuff.
 
barbee0715;4189268 said:
He's just crazy. Or stupid. You know the Estate is bound to know about this. I'm surprised that Finaldi hasn't curtailed this kind of stuff.
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I was thinking that too.....and I also think its basically arrogance as well. He really believes he can get away with this....pretending to play an innocent victim using all the cliché and jargon as proof of his so-called abuse, that he obviously researched online etc.
 
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Goddess4Real;4189272 said:
I was thinking that too.....and I also think its basically arrogance as well. He really believes he can get away with this....pretending to play an innocent victim using all the cliché and jargon as proof of his so-called abuse, that he obviously researched online etc.
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I've just had an experience with someone which explains why Robson is so confident.
I asked her why Culkin, Lewis, Lennon, Cascio, Batthi, McClure, Agajanian, Barnes keep defending MJ if they were molested.
She said because the Jackson family is paying them to do so.
Previously she said they were in denial.


I can't , I just can't. Imagine someone like her on a jury.
 
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respect77 said:
Wajero existed way before 2014. That "filing date" maybe just means his last filing of documents.
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Oh, so he just didn't get rid of it after he started to associate entertainment with his "abuse". OK.
 
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oh guys, let the Estate/lawyers KNOW about all pieces of any evidence HERE.

They have to have it all and show it to the judge...

Is (or was) anybody here who has ever contacted the Estate/lawyers with the threads evidence??
 
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redfrog said:
I've just had an experience with someone which explains why Robson is so confident.
I asked her why Culkin, Lewis, Lennon, Cascio, Batthi, McClure, Agajanian, Barnes keep defending MJ if they were molested.
She said because the Jackson family is paying them to do so.
Previously she said they were in denial.


I can't , I just can't. Imagine someone like her on a jury.
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Trust me if it was true do you think they would keep silent even after all these years they wouldve "cracked" under pressure especially in 2005 trial and also why would jordie keep silent and ran his ass away from the trial!? lol
 
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8701girl said:
Trust me if it was true do you think they would keep silent even after all these years they wouldve "cracked" under pressure especially in 2005 trial and also why would jordie keep silent and ran his ass away from the trial!? lol
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There is a standard for MJ and everyone else. In Mj's case people are more than wiling to believe
that not one not two not three not four not ten but dozens of grown men are not only willing to shut up
about molestation and cover up for their molester even when he was on trial even after he died
but they go out and keep saying nice things about him with a smile on their face because
it's perfectly understandable that a grown molestation victim would be cheerful while talking about
his molester.

I watched many real victims. They are not smiling not cheerful while talking about their molesters, to say the least.
But somehow if it's MJ anything is possible. Except that he is innocent. That is not possible for these assholes.
Every other convoluted explanation is accepted but the most obvious one, that they were not molested, is not.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

The tricky part is that it's very easy to fill in the blanks in a mysterois world (Michaels world) with whatever is heard.. What we don't know can easily turn into anything without actual knowlege.. Everyone has seen The Sandlot right?
 
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redfrog said:
There is a standard for MJ and everyone else. In Mj's case people are more than wiling to believe
that not one not two not three not four not ten but dozens of grown men are not only willing to shut up
about molestation and cover up for their molester even when he was on trial even after he died
but they go out and keep saying nice things about him with a smile on their face because
it's perfectly understandable that a grown molestation victim would be cheerful while talking about
his molester.

I watched many real victims. They are not smiling not cheerful while talking about their molesters, to say the least.
But somehow if it's MJ anything is possible. Except that he is innocent. That is not possible for these assholes.
Every other convoluted explanation is accepted but the most obvious one, that they were not molested, is not.
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Dont worry wade will get caught out its only a matter of time
 
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Wade always seems to get caught..... he is not careful enough! ie.. Britney spears ie. promoting MJ love for his whole career ie. too mentally instable to work, yet work...
 
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respect77 said:
It is interesting to see Brian Friedman gush about MJ ("he was the sweetest guy") in this 2016 interview considering he is a buddy of Wade and he has showed support to Wade in 2014. You wouldn't tell by this interview that he believes MJ sexually molested his friend as a child. Maybe he doesn't really believe it either. God, these Hollywood people can be so fake and shallow.


This is seany's comment from 2014:



And this pic is from 2015: https://www.instagram.com/p/5SlTUgBPZ2/

Someone on LSA posted this:



Wow.

So did Brain change his mind or he is just a two-faced person?
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Most definitely 2 faced....but sitting on the fence waiting for the outcome.
 
 
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