^ Yes, I agree. Despite of them trying to take some elements from the earlier allegations, this would be the most patternless abuser ever. And you know, especially the development of the porn story shows very well how these allegations are formed:
- The first accuser, Jordan never claimed such a thing because at the time no one was aware of MJ having such stuff.
- Jason Francia never claimed such a thing because at the time no one was aware of MJ having such stuff.
- Then Arvizo and his brother break into MJ's room, find his porn stuff and all of a sudden it's part of a molestation story.
- Robson never knew about the porn on the stand in 2005, but now all of a sudden claims he was shown porn.
- And finally Safechuck takes it to another level: it wasn't just hetero porn, but child porn as well - even though no such stuff was ever found in MJ's possession.
So what is more likely? That the guys who made their allegations in the above mentioned order took stories from each other, from the previous accusers (and further embellished it - like Safechuck does) and that is why we do not see any porn mention before the Arvizos, or that MJ had this patternless pattern?
- Showing not only hetero porn but also child porn to Safechuck.
- Showing hetero porn to Robson.
- Not showing anything to Jason Francia.
- Not showing anything to Jordan Chandler. (Additionally see the story below.)
- And yes, we can also add that Mark Ronson story: MJ cringing when him and Sean Lennon try to show MJ some porn on TV.
- 10 years later again showing porn to Gavin.
BTW, consider this story too. It is told by a guy called Paul Hernandez who worked at a comic book store where MJ and Jordan paid visit:
He said that Michael showed up in a black SUV with Jordan and an assistant. He said that Michael walked over to a wall of superhero toys and since Paul was in charge of that section he was tasked to help Michael. He would walk through the store pointing to items saying, I want this, I want that, I won five of these, I want five of those –ect. But when Paul went to pull the items off the shelves for Michael, Michael told him –no, no he can do it. (Meaning the assistant) he said that Michael never asked the price of anything and would even purchase overpriced products and point out store displays.
He said the Golden Apple is a huge store on Melrose. Not only do they have comic books and action figures but the place really is over the top -- movie props, incredibly rare/cool items. The store was frequented by celebrities including: Richard Grieco, Mark Hamel, John Singleton and Samuel L. Jackson.
He said that Samuel L.Jackson was there when Michael came in and asked him, “Is that Michael Jackson?”
He said that Michael was a huge Spiderman fan but that he hadn't read much of the new Spiderman comics-- he generally would read the old ones he had on hand. Jordan was into the flash comics in the flash action figures. He said that Michael told them that he was interested in the comics/items that didn't have too much violence or graphic material. He bought multiples of certain items because he used them in gift bags for the children they visited Neverland.
He also started telling me about how Jordan started walking over to the adult section
Paula: you said that Jordan started wandering over to the adult book section and that Michael didn't want him over there, right?
Paul: he was wandering over there, he didn't know what it was but --it was behind a door, we had like these swinging doors that if you walked to the back of the store and went through the swinging doors --that's where the adult books were. They were inside this little tiny room at the Golden Apple and Jordan had wandered back there and I said, you really don't want to go over there -- you know-- there's nothing really good over there and Michael said, what’s over there? And I said well it's like the adult books, the X-rated books. I don't remember if I said adult or X-rated but Michael said Jordan, and Jordan went over there {to where Michael was}and Michael said, Jordan don't go near that section and he said that's where the bad books are. I remember he did say “bad books’ you know and Jordan said he, he. He liked giggled ya know … he acted like he was moving over there and he {Michael} said, I'm serious Jordan if you go near there I'm not going to buy you anything --- and he {Jordan} said, No, no, okay, okay
Paula: Was it like Playboys or comic type graphic material?
Paul: Comic book stuff like ya know...Fabulous freak brothers, cherry pop tart and anything that had nudity --Stuff the store didn't want kids to see.
Paula: I think back then they even had x-rated cartoons, lol, if I remember correctly.
Paul: lol, yeah ... it was mostly graphic novels. We didn’t get too many people or at lease at the time, people that bought trash mags. Some of them are called trash mags that are just hard-core drawings with just ya know sex.We usually carried a lot of French adapted graphic novels and they had nudity in them. So we put them back there-- anything like that, any kind of nudity in them-- they went in that section.
Same is true for alcohol. Jordan or Francia never mentions alcohol. The Arvizos break into MJ's cellar and then it becomes a part of the molestation myth (and how the media loved the "Jesus Juice" soundbite, didn't they?) and now Safechuck claims it too. How interesting. MJ supposedly made him drink, but not Jordan or Francia (and I think Robson didn't make any allegations about alcohol either). Supposedly giving kids alcohol is his modus operandi, yet between Safechuck and Arvizo (10-15 years apart) he never gives alcohol to any kid.
And in fact, the same is true of the nature of the allegations. Supposedly he molests Safechuck over 100 times and anal rapes Robson, but then later he does just some lot milder stuff on Jordan and Gavin. And there is a 10 year gap between Jordan and Gavin. He cannot wait and molests Robson on the first night they are alone, but later with Jordan and Gavin we have a long build-up period. Well from everything I read about pedophiles it doesn't work like that. In fact, they escalate over time not the opposite.
I totally agree with you that if Robson wants to talk about patterns and bring in earlier allegations for that it may backfire for them more than support their case. Because there is just no pattern in it. The only pattern emerging from all this shows how accusers took claims from each other and kept escalating their claims - in the order of them making allegations. But when we put their allegations in the order of how they followed each other in MJ's life it becomes a patternless mess. How interesting, isn't it? LOL.
I don't know why but it could be they gave him a different reason for why they needed it and it's also possible he allows them things so they won't say later "It would have been proven if the judge didn't deny the discovery". Do we know on what ground they asked for it?