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Dateline NBC tonight, 9pm E.T with Rabbi Boteach's tapes

Ohhhh sure, okay, so the Rabbi was the one who severed ties with MJ because he didn't want to get sucked into the world of excess and drugs? UGH.
 
This Rabbi should feel ashamed. If he knew all this, why didn't he didn't prevent MJ from spiral down.


He just called MJ stupid? :bugeyed


That son of a bitch Rabbi
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The Rabbi said his first reaction to MJ's death was "You stupid, stupid man. How could you do this? How could you orphan your children?" Then he said Michael threw away his life. I AM PISSED!
 
Wow, he just called Mike a stupid man for killing himself, someone should please tell me I didn't hear that.
 
Soso Deaf said:
man i wish nxt week they'd do a piece on how every charity mooley worked w/ lost moeny and had it stolen...hmmmmmmmmmmmm but whatever
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:lol: I know! Where's the $100,000 from L'Chaim, $humley?

littlesparrow said:
On Tatum O'Neil: ( I think this is so sweet)

M: When I held Tatum’s hand, I was like, in heaven. It was the most magical feeling, it was better than kissing her – it was better than anything,
RB: she held your hand and you felt love?
M: like fireworks going off.
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Aww...definitely a romantic.

Regarding the other stuff which they are spinning, clearly he doesn't mean all women. MJ knows better than to generalize.


tragickingdom said:
obviously, even Madonna said they had a falling out. How could Dateline fail to connect that part.

Oh I know why, because they paid more attention to the Kanye West / Taylor Swift staged event than the MJ memorial. :doh:
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Too bad that Shumley unlike Madge cannot say: 'I failed him. I abandoned him.'
 
How dare they end that with Stranger in Moscow when they are doing exactly what Michael was so hurt over in that song?
 
Rabbi makes it sound like MJ wanted to die if he couldn't help kids. MJ was headed like Elvis, Janis Joplin and Marilyn Monroe. He called MJ "stupid man" for dying because he now orphaned his kids. he was angry that MJ had died so that's what he first thought of when he heard MJ had died.

Vierra (the host) points out this book will be realeased now after he died, why write a book and proft from it (good point Vierra).

Rabbi talks more in this segment more then MJ.

anyway, that's all.

Read an except of the book here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/
 
haha mj hated those books but he had porn? c'mon guys...this is mj the image. he wasn't being real w/ shmooooooooley, he was putting on the kop image. lol dude got fooled
 
This Rabbi is a piece of shit.

He did not WANT to die. Thats bullshit. He loved his children more than anything. The rabbi is leaving out all of the crap he did and trying to put it on Mike.

Lets just keep in mind, he says he has 30 hours of audio, but they've showed roughly 30-40 minutes of it. The book would be cool if it was a transcript, but the fact that he's gonna have his own thoughts in it will devalue it.

So which one of us is gonna begin panning the book on Amazon and all other bookselling sites?
 
well I caught the last like five minutes...


pff...well damn if they didnt try to make Michael out to be this pathetic broken creature who had no light...yes there was pain, but there was also joy...immeasurable joy and love
 
starlightdancer said:
MJ talked about children. How much he loved them. How when he see's parents arguing with kids, he breaks down. He cried when talking about kids. MJ saw himself as a "messiah" for children.

He talked about a 13 year cancer patient (boy) who loved MJ very much to the point he called MJ "dad". MJ talked lovingly about him and even laughed. This is the same boy who accused him of sexual abuse. *the irony*

Now he's gonna talk about the women in his life.

Dralliongirl and XmjjX no problem.
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Thanks
littlesparrow said:
On Children:
I would love to come back as a – as a child that never grows old - like peter pan.

I see beauty in all children. They’re all beautiful to me. They’re so beautiful and I love them all.
The happiness and the joy that I see in the eyes of children - they give me - they saved my life. I wanna give it back. They saved me, Shumely - I’m not joking (tearing up).

On living at home with his parents:

I thought I was still this little kid. “It’s not time for me to go yet.
I’m still a boy, it’s not time for me to leave home yet.” I really felt that.
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Oh God, he really didnt want to grow up, i miss him


tragickingdom said:
I'm recording it, and will upload it.
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Thanks

RubbaRubba said:
MJ said he loved the way Princess Diana would make her kids wait in line at amusement parks just like everybody else. He said she was definitely his type.
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we know that

starlightdancer said:
Okay, he believes he could have gotten through to Hitler and help him.

He described kathering as a saint, like Mother Teresa.

He also said women were very materilistic and can sometimes make men unhappy. He says women are manipulative and dissapointing.

Lisa Marie: promised him that they would have children, then after they got married she changed her mind. He felt betrayed by her.

he liked the way princess Diana made her kids wait in line at amusement parks. He said Princess Diana was his type.

tatum o neil : he loved when she held his hand and he felt loved when she did that.(look at littlesparrow's quote)

Brook shields: she was the greaest love of his life. He had pictures of her all over his wall. she saw him at the academy awards, asked him to dance and he said "yes!" immediatly. They dated A LOT according to him. he loved her dearly and vise versa.

Madonna: MJ said Madona is a nasty witch. Why? because she told MJ that she was NOT going to disneyland. She wanted to go to a restuarant then a strip bar. MJ said HE WAS NOT GOING to a strip bar. He refused it. Then they talked about books and madonna said she liked sexy books (they used another word but it escapes me now) and MJ said that Madonna was into "nasty" books and didn't like that. He said it was for the shock value. He also said Madonna was jealous of him because she wished she had fans like his that fainted and ect.

Now they are giving the This is It trailer....
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why do they call him misogynist?? cause he didnt like that madonna was into nasty books??? its ridiculous, he loved other kind of women
 
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I tuned in for the last 15 minutes. I have to say these were incredibly personal tapes and I think that MJ would not have agreed to these being released especially for a book IMO. I have to say that I just cried and cried with Stranger in Moscow came on and they played Michael's voice saying he just wanted to be loved. Just heart wrenching.

Note: I have not ready any posts in this thread. I am going to do that now.
 
What kind of Rabbi is this? lol

Anyway, it was nice to hear MJ's voice to be honest. I loved what he said about Madonna. lol

Hope by text helped those who didn't have NBC. I tried my best with my bad grammer lol
 
Soso Deaf said:
haha mj hated those books but he had porn? c'mon guys...this is mj the image. he wasn't being real w/ shmooooooooley, he was putting on the kop image. lol dude got fooled
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I know and this rabbi is suppose to be an expert? I am like fool please! the only person who knows Mike is God and nobody else. I am like stupid stupid man, no how about we ask the question what happened to that money that disappeared from the charity how about we do that? How about we ask how you just like the wind blew away when mike was in need of a friend and how you tried to get back in good with his being and he blew your b#$% a#$% off. See I feel better already.
 
Soso Deaf said:
haha mj hated those books but he had porn? c'mon guys...this is mj the image. he wasn't being real w/ shmooooooooley, he was putting on the kop image. lol dude got fooled
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Maybe he didn't want to see transvestites with whips. :p
 
starlightdancer said:
What kind of Rabbi is this? lol

Anyway, it was nice to hear MJ's voice to be honest. I loved what he said about Madonna. lol

Hope by text helped those who didn't have NBC. I tried my best with my bad grammer lol
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thanks hun you were amazing
that show is just like what I expected crappy and full of bullshit
 
Serenity3104 said:
oh fuc, now he threw away his life? his talent? yep, I should've turned.
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RubbaRubba said:
The Rabbi said his first reaction to MJ's death was "You stupid, stupid man. How could you do this? How could you orphan your children?" Then he said Michael threw away his life. I AM PISSED!
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:puke: $humley, get this straight. MJ was KILLED. This was MURDER.

SexyMamaJo said:
Fake Rabbi "He lost the will to live." come-the-fuck-on-man.
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How the f*** does he know that? He hadn't seen him in years? More junk he's pulling out of his a**.

A. Sizzle said:
This Rabbi is a piece of shit.

He did not WANT to die. Thats bullshit. He loved his children more than anything. The rabbi is leaving out all of the crap he did and trying to put it on Mike.

Lets just keep in mind, he says he has 30 hours of audio, but they've showed roughly 30-40 minutes of it. The book would be cool if it was a transcript, but the fact that he's gonna have his own thoughts in it will devalue it.

So which one of us is gonna begin panning the book on Amazon and all other bookselling sites?
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Of course he didn't want to die, he was KILLED. $humley is out to make more money. There will be two books about Michael. He's saving the rest of the audio for his other book.

Mike can't defend himself. Mike isn't here to explain why he cut $humley off. $humley can say what ever he wants. No digging into $humley's disapearing money act with charities though...
 
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starlightdancer said:
Try to ignore the Rabbi, just listen to Michael. That's what I'm doing.
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Exactly
Michael words are beautiful and very revealing

the Rabbi's narration and opinions mean nothing
he is cynical .. and back stabbing just like Bashir was
he is placing his own opinions on what Michael meant
and his opinions do not jive with mine ..or many others
who will hear Michael speak

and no I dont think Michael was playing games ..
I think he was being honest for most of what he said
in these tapes. I heard nothing our of place or out of line

the only thing out of line was the Rabbi's take and opinion
on what Michael was really saying _ he clearly didnt GET IT ....
 
MJJ:G.O.A.T said:
:puke: $humley, get this straight. MJ was KILLED. This was MURDER.



How the f*** does he know that? He had seen him in years?



Of course he didn't want to die, he was MURDERED. $humley is out to make more money. There will be two books about Michael. He's saving the rest of the audio for his other book.
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hopefully, that crap won't sell therefore we won't need another one.
 
Do people still watch programs like Dateline? their rating has been in the toilet for years, I doubt this special reached more than a few that still watch their program.

I want to hear MJ but will only download a copy with that fake Rabbi's vermin filtered out.
 
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