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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For anyone who hasn’t seen Chase The Truth, it’s been uploaded to YouTube where you can watch it for free <a href="https://t.co/7SMmq3PwbG">https://t.co/7SMmq3PwbG</a></p>&mdash; lucy (@kjngofpops) <a href="https://twitter.com/kjngofpops/status/1168231345082044417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">1. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">&#128071; <a href="https://t.co/FVK1FJhas7">https://t.co/FVK1FJhas7</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1168368596088549376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Many fans didn't want to watch Leaving Neverland and I can understand why. But if you have, take 1.5 hours to watch Untouchable and see the vast differences. While LN had only 2 accusers and their immediate families, Untouchable provided sources from a wide variety over decades</p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1168581131261763584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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I wonder if he deleted the post or if it was removed by IG? I don't know about anyone else but I reported it. I expect he backed down after the shit he was getting.

Trying to find some positives in all this... 50 Cent now looks like an idiot and CB's and Snoop's posts were circulated and seen by quite a lot of people.
 
i got an idea. can someone make a so called &#8222;Deep Fake&#8220; of Oprah or Wade and James confessing that this all was a big lie??

just like this:

[video]https://youtu.be/cQ54GDm1eL0[/video]
 
Glanni;4267934 said:
i got an idea. can someone make a so called &#8222;Deep Fake&#8220; of Oprah or Wade and James confessing that this all was a big lie??

just like this:

[video]https://youtu.be/cQ54GDm1eL0[/video]
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That is a terrible idea. Don't get involved with that stuff.
 
Glanni;4267934 said:
i got an idea. can someone make a so called &#8222;Deep Fake&#8220; of Oprah or Wade and James confessing that this all was a big lie??

just like this:

[video]https://youtu.be/cQ54GDm1eL0[/video]
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I think that tech should be used to fix the "MJ hologram".
Dissapointed in 50. He clearly doesnt know anything or done any research.
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
Your not stupid you just forgot.
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Thank you :)

terrell said:
Everybody was up in tail.
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Yeah he had Wacka Flocka, also a rapper going against him. Rodney Jerkins wasn't having it in the comment section and we all know about Snoop Dogg. Not to mention many other actually talented rappers like Questlove, Pete Rock etc in full support since always iirc.
 
I agree, the MJ hologram is horrible. couldn't they do an better job? like come on. they could at least go for BAD era. heck how about make an hologram for each era while you at it.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4267981 said:
Thank you :)
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50 is an loser. it's sad because i use like some of songs and MJ did too. if he believes Michael did that stuff then one he was never Michael friend in the first place and two he's on list of people who don't follow anymore.
 
I almost forgot....

50 was also buddies last year with rapper SixNine, the dude with the rainbow hair. He actually called him his son. However, SixNine was accused and I believe he even admitted to performing sexual acts on a minor years ago, something along those lines.

Those are the ones 50 hangs around with and calls him their son.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
There was no evidence what so ever that mj was addicted to anything at the time of his killing. The evidence pointed otherwise. Ie the highly addictive meds murray had prescribed him (benzos) had been under used. Mj was actively trying to avoid using them. Hence why he ended up using diprivan,which isnt addictive.
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Wow i didn't know that. well if all that true what about the anesthesia?
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4267989 said:
I almost forgot....

50 was also buddies last year with rapper SixNine, the dude with the rainbow hair. He actually called him his son. However, SixNine was accused and I believe he even admitted to performing sexual acts on a minor years ago, something along those lines.

Those are the ones 50 hangs around with and calls him their son.
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NatureCriminal7896 said:
I know that but Michael couldn't sleep though. so what else he use to sleep during this time?
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As was already said, the benzos. No evidence he was addicted to them. But he'd built up a tolerance from regular use, so they weren't working properly anymore.
 
So if that's true then the anesthesia was nothing a lie and they use that to kill him along with the drug he was taking?
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
So if that's true then the anesthesia was nothing a lie and they use that to kill him along with the drug he was taking?
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What? No. Michael wanted the anaesthesia. And Murray had no sense of ethics, so he agreed to give it to him, repeatedly. Other doctors wouldn't, because it should not be used outside of a proper medical setting. The effect of the anaesthesia was enhanced by the benzos, which caused Michael to stop breathing and led to cardiac arrest. Murray failed to properly monitor Michael or give him the help he needed in time.
 
I love Michael and understand he couldn't sleep but he should of known taking anesthesia was bad for him. as for Murray. he knew exactly he was doing. you suppose to an doctor. when Michael wanted anesthesia he should said no and tried other stuff to help him sleep. no matter how much he beg it.

and sorry for misunderstanding i wish people read my tagline to understand why i don't get somethings. excuse me for misunderstanding.

 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I love Michael and understand he couldn't sleep but he should of known taking anesthesia was bad for him. as for Murray. he knew exactly he was doing. you suppose to an doctor. when Michael wanted anesthesia he should said no and tried other stuff to help him sleep. no matter how much he beg it.

and sorry for misunderstanding i wish people read my tagline to understand why i don't get somethings. excuse me for misunderstanding.
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I think Michael was in such a state by not sleeping, can u imagine not being able to sleep for days on end, he must have been so desperate to use it. He trusted Murray to look after him and make sure he was safe, Murray let him down so badly and should have gone to prison for life as far as I'm concerned. As far as I'm aware anesthesia isnt a sleeping drug so I don't know how better MJ would have felt after using it, he must have been under so much pressure and exhausted as well, poor Michael
 
Alh21 said:
I think Michael was in such a state by not sleeping, can u imagine not being able to sleep for days on end, he must have been so desperate to use it. He trusted Murray to look after him and make sure he was safe, Murray let him down so badly and should have gone to prison for life as far as I'm concerned. As far as I'm aware anesthesia isnt a sleeping drug so I don't know how better MJ would have felt after using it, he must have been under so much pressure and exhausted as well, poor Michael
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I understand it must been awful not to be able to sleep. but Murray shouldn't pump him up with drugs either. this guy knew what he was doing and yes he really should of went to jail for life because you killed someone. also claimed to be an "doctor". i hope this guy don't touch anyone else. he doesn't need to be an "doctor" period.

also i don't know how Michael felt after taking anesthesia. anesthesia suppose to knock you out and put you to sleep depends on which one you use. if this true i guess Michael wanted to feel knocked out. i had anesthesia before for surgery and it does make you sleepy and numb. it's one of the best sleeps ever but it's not use for sleeping though.
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I understand it must been awful not to be able to sleep. but Murray shouldn't pump him up with drugs either. this guy knew what he was doing and yes he really should of went to jail for life because you killed someone. also claimed to be an "doctor". i hope this guy don't touch anyone else. he doesn't need to be an "doctor" period.

also i don't know how Michael felt after taking anesthesia. anesthesia suppose to knock you out and put you to sleep depends on which one you use. if this true i guess Michael wanted to feel knocked out. i had anesthesia before for surgery and it does make you sleepy and numb. it's one of the best sleeps ever but it's not use for sleeping though.
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Yes I had it for my surgery but I didn't feel like I'd been asleep, I felt drugged for a few days, I can only imagine how desperate Michael must have been and I hope with all my heart that he didn't feel any pain. From what I read murry is still practicing medicine somewhere but I don't know how true that is
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Re Robson v MJ Estate: Oral arguments will be heard on 10/2. I do not know enough about the legalities of this case to comment. <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJJRepository</a> covers this case. <a href="https://t.co/SNtvtCKxM0">pic.twitter.com/SNtvtCKxM0</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1168923003775782912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;HBO broadcast a four-hour documentary that 'convicts' Michael Jackson, a man who’s been dead ten years, for the worst crimes imaginable, but failed in basic fact checking.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LiesofLeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LiesofLeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/toIdKroWIF">https://t.co/toIdKroWIF</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BreitbartNews</a></p>&mdash; Leaving Neverland Facts (@NeverlandFacts) <a href="https://twitter.com/NeverlandFacts/status/1168669751272296450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Paris&#128076;&#128526;you rock girl. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJacksonForever?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJacksonForever</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJacksonIsInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJacksonIsInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/5WdpMMA5EM">pic.twitter.com/5WdpMMA5EM</a></p>&mdash; &#119817;&#119834;&#119847;&#119838;&#119845;&#119854;&#119836;&#119858;&#119820;&#119817;&#128527;&#127465;&#127472;Danish (@LucyMJ10) <a href="https://twitter.com/LucyMJ10/status/1168427053059923968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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I guess it works differently for everyone. for me it made me sleepy and numb. and my goodness i hope not! this man doesn't need to touch anyone else. PERIOD!

I just hope Michael went peacefully in his sleep and didn't feel anything. but it possible he did because he had an heart attack. :(

poor michael. bless him. :(
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I guess it works differently for everyone. for me it made me sleepy and numb. and my goodness i hope not! this man doesn't need to touch anyone else. PERIOD!

I just hope Michael went peacefully in his sleep and didn't feel anything. but it possible he did because he had an heart attack. :(

poor michael. bless him. :(
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he went peaceful. He did not know what hit him. That was why they must have the proper equipment if the breathing stop. Really, I did not think that medicine could do that to you. I had surgery and it was used on me in 2007 and 2008. It was in 2008 I realize things can happen. My chest was sore after I woke up and I later learn the machine took over my breathing. I never knew why until MJ died and I ask my doctor about it. Some people like the feel it gives them when they wake up and put the hot blanket on them; but still, it is not putting anyone to sleep; a person is just unconscious with the illusion he/she is sleep. MJ should have NEVER gamble with his life in this manner especially when he was warned by others not to use it and if any doctor does, that doctor does not care about him (and it is an Anesthesiologist who is suppose to administrate it). MJ should have been in a medical sleep clinic.
 
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