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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

La74;4259650 said:
I am guessing Gayle King or somebody else connected to Oprah who personally doesn’t like what they are doing then. I think Oprah herself contacting John Ziegler in private and thanking him for defending MJ is a little to far fetched.
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terrell;4259676 said:
Well, Wade came out with this trash in May 2013 so why is he praising MJ when in 2013 he called MJ a monster. Did he call MJ a monster to these guys when talking about MJ? I think not. So transparent.
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I read a comment by a girl who attended a dance class taught by Wade she of course supported him and said he talked about his abuse during the dancing courses to raise awareness. So it seems he was using those dance classes to gain sympathy and play the victim all the time. What I don't understand how Brian Friedman has another class to teach MJ's dance routines while at the same time have wade a supposed victim speaking about his abuse to those kids. I mean what kind of a low life opportunist is this Brian guy. I am now sure he does not believe Wade. Reed wants people to mute MJ while Wade's friends were making money off teaching mj's dances to KIDS and Wade around!!! BTW, the classes are very cheap I wonder how much Wade is paid. I bet not much this is Friedman trying again to help him with something.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
Exactly. Fans need to stop been so easily led. Have you all learned nothing from the media and their mute campaign inorder to push the public to think that way when the evidence showed the opposite. A show based on a haters book got cancelled. Well great!
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Yeah, like this past weekend, I traveled up to Cumming, Georgia to a tribute concert. It was packed and I had lots of fun. It was a tribute concert to not only Michael, but Prince as well.
 
I was thinking maybe it was Vivica A Fox? Doesn’t she have s talk show? He never said it was a she but I guess saying this person was on a slightly lower level to Oprah - I suppose it would make sense it’s a female.
 
Or maybe Whoopi Goldberg but I never saw her as someone afraid to say how she feels about anything on The View.
 
I wonder if John's "secret" talk show host is Barbara Walters.

Although she's no longer on the scene, she is still considered a big name on the Talk Show circuit. Since she has always had her finger on the pulse of "What's Happening," I'm sure she is still in the know as to what's going on in the world.

Anyway, that's just my guest, to put into the pot with all the OTHER guesses!
 
Whoopie was in the hospital when LN aired and was discussed.. has the topic been up since shes been on the air again?
 
somewhereinthedark;4259564 said:
I can’t stand DL Fugly either. He is weak minded and ignorant. Btw, I wouldn’t ever allow a child of mine to even be in the same room as him. His ignorance is probably contagious.
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DL referred to his own son that has Asperger's syndrome as "slow". As a "joke" of course but that isn't funny.

I feel bad for his son.

I can't stand DL. I'm
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The replies to this are epic. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://t.co/QD9kddzFui">https://t.co/QD9kddzFui</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1138310514868596736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">- everything good xx &#8294;<a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a>&#8297; <a href="https://t.co/VjKlFbhdgu">pic.twitter.com/VjKlFbhdgu</a></p>&mdash; loripetty (@loripetty) <a href="https://twitter.com/loripetty/status/1138181801090797568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So EXCITED to see Celine Dion’s son wearing an MJ t-shirt on stage at her last show of her Vegas residency!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/AcdBGitDVO">pic.twitter.com/AcdBGitDVO</a></p>&mdash; Angela kaz (@angkaz08) <a href="https://twitter.com/angkaz08/status/1138425098237501440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Someone was doubting (in another thread) if K.Lipsey was a sound engineer and everything. Then <a href="https://twitter.com/shlharris?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@shlharris</a> sent this picture from Wade Robson's Instagram. K Lipsey is there with the members of the orchestra. Posted March 2018. <a href="https://t.co/OTWItqheVi">pic.twitter.com/OTWItqheVi</a></p>&mdash; &#9672;PaulaFin&#9672; (@PaulaFinThinks) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulaFinThinks/status/1137933689915138048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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Paris78;4259733 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The replies to this are epic. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://t.co/QD9kddzFui">https://t.co/QD9kddzFui</a></p>&#8212; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1138310514868596736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson:A Living Legacy: Back to Neverland With Big Al Scanlan <a href="https://t.co/gz3Ff8hekp">https://t.co/gz3Ff8hekp</a></p>&#8212; Judi Brisse (@JudiBrisse) <a href="https://twitter.com/JudiBrisse/status/1138156451279527940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">- everything good xx &#8294;<a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a>&#8297; <a href="https://t.co/VjKlFbhdgu">pic.twitter.com/VjKlFbhdgu</a></p>&#8212; loripetty (@loripetty) <a href="https://twitter.com/loripetty/status/1138181801090797568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So EXCITED to see Celine Dion&#8217;s son wearing an MJ t-shirt on stage at her last show of her Vegas residency!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/AcdBGitDVO">pic.twitter.com/AcdBGitDVO</a></p>&#8212; Angela kaz (@angkaz08) <a href="https://twitter.com/angkaz08/status/1138425098237501440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yay, that is awesome. I remember Celine being a life long MJ fan so it's no surprise her sons are aswell:)
 
So, Leaving Neverland is on the June Ballot list for an 'Emmy' Award for 'Outstanding Documentary or Non Fiction Special'.

There are 35 nominations in the list, including 'Quincy'.

https://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/ballots/documentary-2019-v1-ballot.pdf

It's also in the ballot list for 'Outstanding Directing for a Documentary / Non Fiction program'

https://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/ballots/directing-nonfiction-2019-v1-ballot.pdf

AND it's also in the ballot list for 'Outstanding Cinematography for a NonFiction Program'

Yep, that's an AGENDA, right there.

https://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/ballots/cinematography-nonfiction-2019-v1-ballot.pdf


Ballots to select the nominations are sent to Academy members in June. For most categories, members from each of the branches vote to determine the nominees only in their respective categories. All members can however vote for nominations in the best program categories. The final voting to determine the winners is held in August, and is done by judging panels. In June, the Academy solicits volunteers among its active members to serve on these panels. All active members may serve on the program panels; otherwise they are restricted to those categories within their own branch.
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Documentaries may be nominated in 14 categories (5 documentaries for each) eg. Political, business, science, arts, investigative etc.
 
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Cinnamon234 said:
DL referred to his own son that has Asperger's syndrome as "slow". As a "joke" of course but that isn't funny.

I feel bad for his son.

I can't stand DL. I'm
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What in the actual deep fried hell is this?! Sorry to get a bit off-topic, but I have Asperger's, so this is a huge no from me. (Not mad at you for posting this, just at him for saying it.)
 
 
Guys sorry to barge in here, a while back I saw that Taj said he was going to set up an email address specifically so we could send info that might be useful. Does anyone know what it is? Ive searched here and through twitter, can't find it.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> is live. How are you making a difference in the life of others – are you volunteering or donating items? To participate, share an image of how you are giving back to your community using <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> and your post will be added to the mosaic. <a href="https://t.co/lNIU5PB8AA">https://t.co/lNIU5PB8AA</a></p>&mdash; Michael Jackson (@michaeljackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson/status/1138852479083405317?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">57-year-old half-blinded Chinese sanitation worker Wang Shijin dances again on a TV show recently to mark Michael Jackson's 10th anniversary! <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> FB link: <a href="https://t.co/sbXpyXuEio">https://t.co/sbXpyXuEio</a></p>&mdash; Keen Zhang (@mkgenie) <a href="https://twitter.com/mkgenie/status/1138673222981808128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I just want to thank all of the MJ fan community in keeping Michael alive in your hearts. Keep dancing&#10084;&#65039;</p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1138159578359590912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade Robson appeals update: His attorneys have filed a third extension request of 60 days. Now the deadline for him to file a response will be August 23 instead of June 24. This represents a total of 120 days they have extended the original deadline for Wade’s side to respond.</p>&mdash; TSCM (@MJJRepository) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1138845693756395521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tomorrow is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VindicationDay?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VindicationDay</a> for Michael Jackson. I hope everyone will post about their belief in his innocence, their stories if they were there at the '05 trial, and use the hashtag <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a>. <a href="https://t.co/JbZDXBGV5c">pic.twitter.com/JbZDXBGV5c</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1138815246812864512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who knew wearing an MJ tee shirt would become such a rebellious act, a lot of people in entertainment are starting to flaunt who they stand with and that’s Michael Jackson. Keep fighting!<a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a><br> <br>-Meagan Good, this week<br>-Celion Dion’s son this month<br>-J.cole this month <a href="https://t.co/8tlOYCqezf">pic.twitter.com/8tlOYCqezf</a></p>&mdash; Regina&amp;Roger (@RogerStan123) <a href="https://twitter.com/RogerStan123/status/1138628737807732736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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myosotis said:
So, Leaving Neverland is on the June Ballot list for an 'Emmy' Award for 'Outstanding Documentary or Non Fiction Special'.

There are 35 nominations in the list, including 'Quincy'.

https://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/ballots/documentary-2019-v1-ballot.pdf

It's also in the ballot list for 'Outstanding Directing for a Documentary / Non Fiction program'

https://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/ballots/directing-nonfiction-2019-v1-ballot.pdf

AND it's also in the ballot list for 'Outstanding Cinematography for a NonFiction Program'

Yep, that's an AGENDA, right there.

https://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/ballots/cinematography-nonfiction-2019-v1-ballot.pdf




Documentaries may be nominated in 14 categories (5 documentaries for each) eg. Political, business, science, arts, investigative etc.
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WRONG GENRE, you dumbf*cks at the EMMY Awards.
 
Good for Will.i.am At least that way they can't twist his words. Or use anything as an excuse to repeat the whole tired farrago again.

And the journo. has the cheek to say his column is off limits to stars who won't be 'open and honest'. (Who 'toe the party line', he means). And he can't spell. 'tow', LOL.

WILL.I.WON'T TALK The Voice star Will.i.am ends chat after banning talk of Donald Trump, Michael Jackson and Fergie

WITH his love of rambling techno-jargon, nobody could accuse Will.i.am of being straight- talking &#8211; but even by his standards this is ridiculous.

The Black Eyed Peas and Voice star offered Bizarre an interview to help promote his new single Be Nice, which features Snoop Dogg &#8212; but in a shock turn then sent me a lengthy list of topics he would refuse to discuss during the 15-minute chat.

Offensive subject matter included most of his personal and love life, politics and even any discussion of former bandmate Fergie, leaving very little on the table beyond the weather and compliments about his talent.

When I refused to tow the line in our interview, Will angrily ended it.

Alarmingly, this isn&#8217;t a one off. It is rapidly becoming an epidemic as desperate celebrities try to flog their wares while refusing to reveal any genuine opinions to the fans who part with their hard-earned cash to make them millionaires.

That is why today I am drawing a line and declaring Britain&#8217;s best showbiz column off limits to stars who refuse to be open and honest.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9282483/voice-will-i-am-bans-trump-michael-jackson-fergie/
 
myosotis;4259809 said:
Good for Will.i.am At least that way they can't twist his words. Or use anything as an excuse to repeat the whole tired farrago again.

And the journo. has the cheek to say his column is off limits to stars who won't be 'open and honest'. (Who 'toe the party line', he means). And he can't spell. 'tow', LOL.

WILL.I.WON'T TALK The Voice star Will.i.am ends chat after banning talk of Donald Trump, Michael Jackson and Fergie

WITH his love of rambling techno-jargon, nobody could accuse Will.i.am of being straight- talking &#8211; but even by his standards this is ridiculous.

The Black Eyed Peas and Voice star offered Bizarre an interview to help promote his new single Be Nice, which features Snoop Dogg &#8212; but in a shock turn then sent me a lengthy list of topics he would refuse to discuss during the 15-minute chat.

Offensive subject matter included most of his personal and love life, politics and even any discussion of former bandmate Fergie, leaving very little on the table beyond the weather and compliments about his talent.

When I refused to tow the line in our interview, Will angrily ended it.

Alarmingly, this isn&#8217;t a one off. It is rapidly becoming an epidemic as desperate celebrities try to flog their wares while refusing to reveal any genuine opinions to the fans who part with their hard-earned cash to make them millionaires.

That is why today I am drawing a line and declaring Britain&#8217;s best showbiz column off limits to stars who refuse to be open and honest.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9282483/voice-will-i-am-bans-trump-michael-jackson-fergie/
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That is comical coming from a columnist in a TABLOID PAPER about being "honest" and "open" Also, When fans love you, they love you and not talking about people whom the media wants them to talk about wont change celebs fans who give their "hard earn money". These reporters are full of themselves.
 
So sad that this filthy moc takes all focus on the 10th anniversary...

I really can not understand how they can see themselves in the mirror... To stab a dead "friend" in the back like this... unbelievable.

MJ did nothing but good for them and this is their way to thank him... Trying to make money on false accusations and throwing him under the bus.

These two - 3 if we also take the director - I hope they have ruined their chance for anything in the future. - I hope no one will ever work wide Wade og Safechuck. This should be a great warning for all how they repay the favor... So sad they have no moral or anything.
 
Hess said:
So sad that this filthy moc takes all focus on the 10th anniversary...

I really can not understand how they can see themselves in the mirror... To stab a dead "friend" in the back like this... unbelievable.

MJ did nothing but good for them and this is their way to thank him... Trying to make money on false accusations and throwing him under the bus.

These two - 3 if we also take the director - I hope they have ruined their chance for anything in the future. - I hope no one will ever work wide Wade og Safechuck. This should be a great warning for all how they repay the favor... So sad they have no moral or anything.
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It haven't took away much but some. people are still celebrating his 10th anniversary passing. i know i'm still am and my mother. who cares what else people think. Michael was and is found innocent. how many gosh darn times we have to say this? they just haters and trolls just ignore them.
 
We ain't done because we still got those court hearings on the 17th and now July 15th or is it August 23th now? ugh. this is crazy. why HBO and these liars keep pushing this crap back? they all need to hang it up already. stop making money off this crap. they can't get away from this. i really hope they don't because i feel that's why they keep pushing it back. ugh. it's like 1993 all over again expect we have social media. they get away with this i'm gonna be very very hurt by it. but we are warriors. we got this. we will make sure they don't get away. i hope. :(
 
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Also why the heck they keep making these court dates on special occasions of Michael life?! August is his birthday month. this year is his 10th anniversary passing. like stop it already. it's disgusting. :angry:
 
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