Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">over the course of two weeks, i received over 800 names/locations from fans across the world. today, i brought them all with me to forest lawn to let mj know that we are here for him during this difficult time. thank you all for helping me bring him the love that he deserves! <a href="https://t.co/br98e50WBI">pic.twitter.com/br98e50WBI</a></p>&mdash; izzy&#127807; (@peacelovemjj) <a href="https://twitter.com/peacelovemjj/status/1109915972733812736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">for those who participated, can you spot your name? <a href="https://t.co/OPXpgxBbVx">pic.twitter.com/OPXpgxBbVx</a></p>&mdash; izzy&#127807; (@peacelovemjj) <a href="https://twitter.com/peacelovemjj/status/1109916523248807936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">a message from the fans to mj &#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://t.co/7zQF0ryIHP">pic.twitter.com/7zQF0ryIHP</a></p>&mdash; izzy&#127807; (@peacelovemjj) <a href="https://twitter.com/peacelovemjj/status/1109916921825157120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's okay, I knew you would have needed to write small. 800 names is a lot. I found my name eventually though, no worries &#10084;&#10084; this was such a sweet project izzy &#128588;&#127995;&#129303;&#129419; Michael is grateful in heaven for everything everyone of us is doing. <a href="https://t.co/4RDZuWsJpw">pic.twitter.com/4RDZuWsJpw</a></p>&mdash; NewtNewt (@NewtNewt15) <a href="https://twitter.com/NewtNewt15/status/1110019242076844037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona;4251867 said:
I hope the adminteam will take the time to delate his posts.
He was convinced that MJ is childmolester since his first post before the airing of LN and starts suddenly posting imensly at the day of the airing as he is an paid influencer.
I saw trough this after I found a paid influencer on YouTube before I lost my account.

Maybe I’m more naive. I will always defend someone’s right to express their doubts/opinions on here as long as it’s constructive and fair. This user is doing neither now and has exposed himself as a hater.
Interesting how the post I quotes was apparently their last ever post on here yet they are still posting and replying to messages in this thread.
 
Something positive to report...

Here in my hometown of Southampton, this past weekend we had 'Ben', the popular MJ tribute artist and his band down for a full show at one of the most popular concert venues in the city. The show was packed out with O2 (the owners of the venue) advertising it heavily on their facebook page.

We also have Navi (with Jennifer Batten) and his full stage show coming to the local theatre, The Mayflower, here in the city at the end of March which I have tickets for. Judging by the amount of seats sold, MJ's legacy is well and truly going strong here in Southampton.

The general public can see through these lies, MJ will return to former glory. I'm positive of it!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanted you to see this in case you missed it. This is in a small airport in my city in the US. Your message is everywhere. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanyKane?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SeanyKane</a> <a href="https://t.co/3EfRfIYOLR">pic.twitter.com/3EfRfIYOLR</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1110199468350017537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The gullibility is astonishing. They'd rather believe MJ had entire enterprise of businesses just to groom &amp; abuse, that FBI &amp; POTUS covered up all abuse &amp; even made accusers &quot;vanish&quot; from the 1980s on up, that a TV show with two liars is gospel... Than to accept MJ was innocent.</p>&mdash; TSCM (@MJJRepository) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1109954560670515202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They're currently playing Beat It by Michael Jackson at the finish line of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LAMarathon?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LAMarathon</a>. &#128588; Mute who?</p>&mdash; Cassie EO #JusticeForMJ (@CassandrellaEh) <a href="https://twitter.com/CassandrellaEh/status/1109855934212378624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Come join our group. We gather events and other ways of defending Michael, We intend to get huge as a group and get heard <a href="https://t.co/OeRz9DnzyN">https://t.co/OeRz9DnzyN</a> <a href="https://t.co/w07gy1sKUw">pic.twitter.com/w07gy1sKUw</a></p>&mdash; MsFlyingFairy (@MsFlyingFairy) <a href="https://twitter.com/MsFlyingFairy/status/1110116224250363904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a>'s &quot;Thriller&quot; hits 1.3 Billion streams on spotify. If <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller</a> was released today this is what it would look like. Who was scared? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KingOfPop?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KingOfPop</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thrillerbillion?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thrillerbillion</a> <a href="https://t.co/HoBuTtrYgh">pic.twitter.com/HoBuTtrYgh</a></p>&mdash; Spotify News (@Spotify_News247) <a href="https://twitter.com/Spotify_News247/status/1110220270009225218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/MarlonWayans?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarlonWayans</a> &#9829;&#65039;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/mRULgIj2rC">pic.twitter.com/mRULgIj2rC</a></p>&mdash; Mature Era Bitch | #MJInnocent (@whoxmike) <a href="https://twitter.com/whoxmike/status/1110248603128344581?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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I was on a road trip with some family members this weekend and billie Jean came on my dads iPod that was playing through the car. He asked what we all “thought about the whole Michael Jackson thing”.
I simply said I didn’t want to talk about it, it’s been making me unwel the amount I’ve been obsessing over it and it was meant to be a special day and I didn’t want to go off on one about it all.
The consensus among other family members in the car was that they “will probably never know for sure”.
Not exactly the most positive response but in a way it’s encouraging that non fans aren’t completely accepting the doc and allegations and face value and they have room for doubt.
 
AG5050;4251879 said:
Maybe I&#8217;m more naive. I will always defend someone&#8217;s right to express their doubts/opinions on here as long as it&#8217;s constructive and fair. This user is doing neither now and has exposed himself as a hater.
Interesting how the post I quotes was apparently their last ever post on here yet they are still posting and replying to messages in this thread.

I agree.
 
For those who reading this:
VERY GREAT 50 MIN. REBUTTLE TO LN:

"The Ultimate Rebuttle against EVERY Michael Jackson Allegation" from "Danny Wu (Part2)"
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Pleeeeeeease watch and share this video. He did a veeeery good Job for me in this long Rebuttle video!!!

I never heared before about this Jonathan S. thing he mentioned!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today was the second meeting of Brazilian fans on the streets of São Paulo <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a><br>God bless you'll&#128591;&#10084;&#65039;&#128170;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/STOPLyingAboutMichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#STOPLyingAboutMichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/br6JkVJaTS">pic.twitter.com/br6JkVJaTS</a></p>&mdash; Justice for Michael NOW (@justiceforMJnow) <a href="https://twitter.com/justiceforMJnow/status/1109942751393705984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MOST IMPORTANTLY, the information can’t be manipulated to fit their own narratives, as <a href="https://twitter.com/billboard?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@billboard</a> did w/ your ppt. MJ fans have found many alternatives to get information out, I think <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> estate can (should and MUST) do better. STOP FEEDING TROLLS! <a href="https://twitter.com/MJonlineteam?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MJonlineteam</a> [2/2]</p>&mdash; _ItsToni_ (@_ItsToni_) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ItsToni_/status/1109771002790273025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Props to <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a> for their work and recent interviews defending their uncle’s legacy. If you gave 4 hours of your life to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeverland</a> you can give them 15 minutes (it’s all you’ll need) to debunk the entire movie - follow them! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnoccent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnoccent</a></p>&mdash; Five Times August (@FiveTimesAugust) <a href="https://twitter.com/FiveTimesAugust/status/1107461174717747200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">18. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/NeYoCompound?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NeYoCompound</a> recently expressed his support for Michael Jackson’s innocence on Instagram and called out the media for their hypocrisy. <br><br>Show your support to Ne-Yo here: <a href="https://t.co/qtojNIQQpA">https://t.co/qtojNIQQpA</a> <a href="https://t.co/KfVKJiFBpm">pic.twitter.com/KfVKJiFBpm</a></p>&mdash; MJJLegion &#9813; (@MJJLegion) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJLegion/status/1109508089856905217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We heard you <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/spotify?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#spotify</a> &#128588;&#127996;&#128081;&#10084;&#65039;<br>&quot;King of The Charts&quot; ladies and gentlemen.<br><br>Excuse me again, but mute who?&#128514;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjinnocent</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KingOfPop?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KingOfPop</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mj?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mj</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AmplifyMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AmplifyMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/IQBNrBPQHK">https://t.co/IQBNrBPQHK</a></p>&mdash; #STREAMMJMUSIC #JusticeforMJ (@sim_moonwalker) <a href="https://twitter.com/sim_moonwalker/status/1110165326908542976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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Just look at this

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Marlon Wayans opposes Leaving Neverland. @ 12:24

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How can you put people on ignore when you use MJJC on mobile? I don't ever want to see a post by Speed Demon again. Also how do you report someone? I don't see any of these options.


You need to click on full site. Then go into your settings. On the left will be ignore tab amongst others.report post triangle bottom left of pos
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just take a GOOD LOOK AT THE LIARS. Ones who Michael helped and when he stopped helping them and their money hungry fame blank families they come up with this crap. Take A GOOD LOOK AT them! And you know what I mean! &#128545;&#128545;</p>&mdash; Brenda Harvey Richie (@BrendaRichie) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrendaRichie/status/1109690689745375234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">24. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Showing The World! &#128378;&#127995;&#128378;&#127995; <a href="https://t.co/qKpBUydtsc">https://t.co/qKpBUydtsc</a></p>&mdash; Brenda Harvey Richie (@BrendaRichie) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrendaRichie/status/1110236354594504704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the many things I love is that Diana has never wavered in her love and support of Michael. Even when the media attempts to disrespect him. <br><br>In THE BOSS' presence you WILL respect Michael Joseph Jackson. <br><br>A real friend. <a href="https://t.co/s5R3wLE5DN">pic.twitter.com/s5R3wLE5DN</a></p>&mdash; ithl123 (@ithl123) <a href="https://twitter.com/ithl123/status/1109581774521360387?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">23. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our EBONY cover star <a href="https://twitter.com/DianaRoss?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DianaRoss</a> took to Twitter to share her “endless love” for the late icon Michael Jackson, tweeting, “I believe and trust that Michael Jackson was and is a magnificent incredible force to me and to many others. STOP IN THE NAME OF LOVE” <a href="https://t.co/6cdjtVzvK1">https://t.co/6cdjtVzvK1</a></p>&mdash; EBONY MAGAZINE (@EBONYMag) <a href="https://twitter.com/EBONYMag/status/1110236283618684931?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">25. März 2019</a></blockquote>
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Apple is fine with a woman who is basically hiding Weinstein, hounds a man that was found not guilty on all charges and supporting fake victims. Good job Apple, sigh.

Oprah is brining two series, one on sexual assault in the workplace and one on mental health, to Apple. But also, the Book Club is coming to Apple platforms. Streamed on devices and to Apple Stores.

https://t.co/xhgwwW8u6f #AppleEvent https://t.co/YkA7iOvnwu
 
One of the biggest YouTubers for news has finally covered this mess.

 
I love when someone on Twitter goes all "with a heavy heart I am deleting all my Michael Jackson songs from my library now." and people start providing her with facts about everything and this person just doesn't reply at all anymore. Or posts some stupid sad smiley.

I'm embarrassed that this has become of mankind, or well, a good amount of mankind. How hard can it be to just look up some info yourself? Nahhhhh, let's just believe these very credible two men in a "documentary". Who cares about that he was fully acquitted, who cares about a FBI investigation, grand juries, PI's and so on.
Then the same person posted this:

It took him 3 years but #JohnnyDepp proved his innocence. Goes to show that issues which can potentially ruin someone's life & career - be it man or woman - should be taken and resolved in court. With evidence. Not on social media where both parties are trashed.
And people called her out for her hypocrisy. It was funny.
 
One of the biggest YouTubers for news has finally covered this mess.


I like the way he covered that, people could learn a thing or two about how he fairly pointed out both sides...refreshing. Still shocked at peoples reaction to it and how it's been reported even weeks later.
 
Maybe a little offtopic but just now I read about Aaron Carter on VindicateMJ that the story from years ago was total BS. Carter actually was genuine and never said those things about Michael to someone. It was about a completely different person... a actual pedophile at that. Goddamn, the more you know. It's just insanity how hellbent the media was to tarnish MJ whenever they saw a possibility, just sick really. But I'm thankful for that site.
 
I like the way he covered that, people could learn a thing or two about how he fairly pointed out both sides...refreshing. Still shocked at peoples reaction to it and how it's been reported even weeks later.
Yeah, I know he always tries to be balanced with his coverage. Considering he was abused and is not shy about making his feelings clear about actual child abusers, I thought he did a good job.
 
A random thought just occurred to me - what media decides to fixate on can be very puzzling.

There has been no real coverage of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. And where is the hue and cry about the Sackler family? Has there been any meaningful discussion/coverage about refusing or returning their money since is clearly tainted with the scandal of the opioid crisis?

Instead two hucksters get to make outrageous, unchallenged claims about Michael Jackson and we get people crawling from the woodwork to milk the situation for all its worth.

Things that make you go hmmm.
 
*comes into the thread and sees drama* Yikes...

I could tell all of this to that person but just look at how she replies to me after I gave her the links to the two articles on The MJ Allegations site about Jason and Martinez.

Na ive already read every thing on that pro jackson website which has been put together by a Michael Jackson fan - biased much? the fact that you still think its OK that MJ paid these boys off AT ALL shows how idiotic you are

Makes me wonder if I shouldn't just ignore this one.

"That site is BIASED and therefore LIESS111!!"
*totally believes a biased documentary and all the articles coddling it*

Yeah I say ignore her.
 
Yeah, I know he always tries to be balanced with his coverage. Considering he was abused and is not shy about making his feelings clear about actual child abusers, I thought he did a good job.

And hes got himself over 6 million subscribers giving balanced coverage, perhaps that is what people want to see after all.
 
And hes got himself over 6 million subscribers giving balanced coverage, perhaps that is what people want to see after all.
I think a lot of people do. Distrust in the mainstream media is high. Especially in young people. Though I think many still lean towards trusting stories that fit their already established views, even if they don't trust coverage from the same media outlet about another topic.
 
horselightning;4251907 said:

Before we go into panic mode, keep in mind that we're talking about Radar Online here. If that juror genuinely thinks MJ molested Wade and Mac..... lol.

RO claims this

According to Radar Online, Eleanor Cook, now 93, was juror No. 5 during the trial. Now, she’s opening up about Michael Jackson, claiming that she believes the late singer sexually abused Wade Robson and actor Macaulay Culkin.

Meanwhile, Cook claims that she believes Jackson should have been sent to jail over the charges as a punishment for his sexual abuse, but that she eventually decided to vote “not guilty” with the rest of the jury. She and another like-minded juror realized that they weren’t going to be able to change the other’s minds. “We gave in,” she admitted.

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I read this before, years ago actually and it was a tabloid item back tjen too. I believe it was a article that released pretty soon after the verdict too. I call BS.


Amaya;4251914 said:
*comes into the thread and sees drama* Yikes...



"That site is BIASED and therefore LIESS111!!"
*totally believes a biased documentary and all the articles coddling it*

Yeah I say ignore her.

I also forgot to mention that this woman refered to MJFacts to prove her point. MJfacts is (sadly) a 100% bullshit site, right? I say sadly because a site with a name like that should have actual facts.
 
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