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Murray wasn't a doctor..This man just so happened to get very close to MJ in Vegas and no one, not even MJ's security vetted this maniac? Folks who can judge character should've been able to tell this man was nuts.. MJ started getting sicker and sicker after hooking up with him.. He murdered MJ and I wouldn't be surprised if he was hired to do it.
 
MURRAY at Trinidad Carnival

Life After Michael Jackson! Conrad Murray Having Fun In Trinidad Carnival. Some Think He Should Be Keeping A Low Profile. What Do You Think? {PIC}

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It irritates me that he's still breathing let alone out there having fun after killing a man!
 
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so he's back to living his life, while Michael is...... :(
 
GreenEyes;3969029 said:
The woman on his left is his "instrument". LOL!

I hope he stays there. They can have him. He will never practice medicine again in the USA. Never.
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He's apparently volunteering his services in Trinidad...maybe hoping to get a foot in the employment door?
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The doctor convicted of causing Michael Jackson's death has landed a new job in the medical business.

Conrad Murray spent nearly two years in jail on an involuntary manslaughter charge stemming from the death of his most famous patient in 2009.
His medical licence was revoked in Texas and suspended in both California and Nevada.

However, he has now found a new position following his release from prison last year. Murray has been hired as a volunteer consultant by the Trinidad Ministry of Health, according to TMZ.com.
The website reports Murray will be advising heart surgeons and offering up his services for free

nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/

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Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan says cardiologist Dr Conrad Murray, who was convicted in the death of the late pop icon Michael Jackson, will be acting as a voluntary consultant for health surgeons here according to a TMZ article which was quoted in a CNC3 television news report last night.
Earlier on, at the Organisation of American States (OAS) Inter-American Drug Abuse Control Commission (CICAD) Caribbean Certification Programme For Drug and Violence Prevention, Treatment and Rehabilitation, Khan said: “I did not employ him. We will know who has been employed, especially somebody of that nature.”
The Express reported that Khan met with Murray during his visit for Carnival. Khan said Murray had approached the Ministry of Health after local doctors began expressing concerns over a backlog of heart surgeries for children.
They felt Murray was a well-known cardiologist in the United States* and he was well positioned to facilitate surgeries for children there. They also felt he could use his contacts at various hospitals to accommodate surgeries. He even suggested using money, perhaps from the Children’s Life Fund.
Khan said he felt the idea was “a good one”. He told Dr Murray to put everything in writing. Asked about concerns about Dr Murray’s reputation, Khan said there will always be concern and skepticism. Murray will not be practicing medicine here nor personally treating any of the children.
The TMZ article said: “Murray won’t get rich off the new job. He is volunteering his services. But it is definitely a foot in the door. Truth be told, Murray was a successful cardiologist beloved by his patients. There is only one blemish on his record.”

trinidadexpress.com/news

* Sadly, well known for something other than cardiology....

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Dr Murray offers to help sick children
Thursday, March 13 2014

Dr Conrad Murray has offered to help children and adult cardiac patients access specialist care overseas, Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan disclosed yesterday.

“He has offered to assist with his contacts abroad for paediatric cardiac surgery and cardiology. It will be at a low cost to the country,” Khan told Newsday in a text message reply.

Born in Grenada but raised in Trinidad, Murray served two years in prison in the United States for the death of pop icon Michael Jackson who died from an overdose of propofol in 2009.
Murray returned to Trinidad for Carnival earlier this month, playing mas with his daughter and girlfriend.

Khan was asked about persistent reports that Murray was in talks with the Health Ministry.
“I have not employed anybody,” Khan said in his text reply last evening.

Earlier yesterday, Khan denied Murray had found employment in Trinidad when asked about reports circulating on the Internet.
“Ninety-eight percent of what you read on the net is garbage, 98 percent of the medical journals, what people put there, are theatrics,” Khan told reporters at the launch of a drug prevention programme at the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex, Mt Hope. Reports surfaced on American entertainment news website TMZ, that Conrad doctor is in talks with the Health Ministry to use his connections as a well-known heart surgeon to facilitate surgeries for Trinidadian children abroad.

TMZ said Murray’s role will be strictly consultative, and he will not be treating patients. The proposal came after concerns were expressed that there was a backlog of cases of children awaiting heart surgeries.

Khan, according to a local television news report, has said Murray will have to put his proposal in writing for the ministry to consider. Khan has previously said there was no reason why Murray could not practice in Trinidad, if he is approved for a medical licence by the Medical Board.

Murray previously practiced as a heart surgeon in Trinidad before migrating to the United States.

newsday.co.tt/news
 
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I hope we never have to hear from Murray again. He can stay over there and make a living. I got tired of hearing about him a very long time ago.
 
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Hopefully he stays there and volunteers. That country has good doctors--most of them educated in the US/Canada/England, so Muarry is just looking for media attention. Also, that doctor from the ministry wants his name in the papers too.
 
Luckily someone there has some sense left even if their minister of Health has lost his plot


Allowing Dr Murray a foot in the door?
By Dana Seetahal

In the last few months there have been many issues plaguing the medical profession that appear to have been met with the line that “it is a grey area”. First there was the issue of cocaine pellets being found in the body of a patient and no report being made to the police. Then came the issue of reporting of suspected sexual offences by doctors in the case of minors. Lately the question of negligence has arisen in the case where the head of a seven-month foetus was sliced open during a Caesarean operation.

Now there is talk by the Minister of Health of Dr Conrad Murray acting as a “voluntary consultant” for heart surgeries. The minister has admitted that Dr Murray has “offered to assist” and media as far away as New Zealand are today reporting that Dr Murray is to be an unpaid (medical) consultant in this country. This last matter begs the question as to whether the Minister of Health does not realise that, where his ministry and the medical profession is under serious scrutiny at this time, it is foolhardy if not plain reckless to add fuel to the fire.

Dr Conrad Murray was convicted in the state of California of involuntary manslaughter in the 2009 death of pop music icon Michael Jackson. He was sentenced to four years imprisonment in November 2011 for the offence. He served two and was released at the end of October 2013. In February this year he was in T&T and was seen at prominent all-inclusive Carnival fetes. Around that time the Minister of Health is reported to have said that there was no reason why Murray could not practise in T&T, if he is approved for a licence by the Medical Board.

If there is any thought at all of Dr Murray practising in T&T, whether as practitioner or a “voluntary consultant”, it is perhaps relevant to note some of what was said at his trial. The sentencing judge said that Dr Murray’s recklessness with Jackson overshadowed his previous good character and his treatment of Jackson was “a cycle of horrible medicine”. He further noted, “Dr Murray engaged in a recurring, continuous pattern of deceit and lies.” He said that far from being remorseful there was umbrage and outrage on the part of Dr Murray against Jackson. In the end, the judge said, “Dr Murray abandoned his patient,” and his conduct was “egregious” and “a disgrace to the medical profession.” Even Ed Chernoff, Murray’s trial lawyer had this to say, “Michael Jackson was a drug seeker, and Dr Murray was wrong in providing it.”

In January 2014 the California appellate court had nothing better to say. In their ruling, that court found that Murray had shown a callous disregard for Jackson’s health and safety. The court held: “The evidence demonstrated that Mr Jackson was a vulnerable victim and [Murray] was in a position of trust, and he [the doctor] violated the trust relationship by breaching standards of professional conduct in numerous respects.”

The US authorities had stated even before he lost his appeal that it did not matter if Murray had a blemish-free record prior to Michael Jackson’s death. “The facts don’t change, he gave anaesthesia to a patient for sleep purposes”. His medical licence has since been revoked in Texas and suspended in California and Nevada. It was also reported that the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office has said it will be closely monitoring Murray to make sure he is not able to practice medicine.

Yet here in T&T our Minister of Health was suggesting a week or two ago that there was no reason why Murray could not practise in T&T if he got a licence. In this regard it is of note to mention that Section 12 of our Medical Board Act provides that once he has the relevant qualifications a person is entitled to be registered as a doctor if “he is of good character and a fit and proper person to practise medicine”. The obvious question to be asked is how could Dr Murray, in the light of his conviction and the statements made by both the trial and appellate courts in California, be considered to be of good character or a fit and proper person to practise medicine in this country?

Even if he is to be a “voluntary consultant” in what capacity would he be functioning as such if he is not a fit and proper person to practise medicine?
It is no wonder that the rest of the world, in particular the TMZ celebrity channel, is looking closely at what is happening in T&T in relation to Dr Murray and reporting on it on a daily basis.

One can only hope that neither the Minister of Health nor the Medical Association, both of whom had talked of a “grey area” earlier this year in relation to other matters, finds another grey area in the Murray case to justify allowing him to practise medicine here. In respect of both the issues of the cocaine pellets being found inside a man who had surgery and the need for reporting suspected sexual offences both the minister and the PRO of the Medical Association Dr Trinidade are reported as suggesting that doctor/patient confidentiality may result in a “grey area” in the law.

Allowing Dr Murray to have even, what has been termed by TMZ, a “foot in the door” with even the talk of his being able to practise medicine in T&T, has already raised the spectre of T&T being seen as a banana republic where anything goes. We need to firmly shut that door and instead build the integrity of our medical profession and its institutions.

Dana S Seetahal is a
former independent senator

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Bubs great article. I hope the medical board and that Faud Minister is paying attention. I like his point about the banana republic. Certainly T&T don't want to be known as the dumping ground for ex-criminals of the United States who can live there and continue their professions in luxury. I hope Muarry remains in his homeland, but certainly not as a doctor of medicine. He can take his blood money from the media and open some surgical equipment store in T&T. He gets a lot of money when he converts his US dollars.

By the way how could Muarry be a consultant for heart surgeries? I did not realize he was a surgeon?

Bubs do you find that the instrument's face has changed a great deal since the trial?
 
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Petrarose said:
Bubs great article. I hope the medical board and that Faud Minister is paying attention. I like his point about the banana republic. Certainly T&T don't want to be known as the dumping ground for ex-criminals of the United States who can live there and continue their professions in luxury. I hope Muarry remains in his homeland, but certainly not as a doctor of medicine. He can take his blood money from the media and open some surgical equipment store in T&T. He gets a lot of money when he converts his US dollars.

By the way how could Muarry be a consultant for heart surgeries? I did not realize he was a surgeon?

Bubs do you find that the instrument's face has changed a great deal since the trial?
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I think Murray performed coronary angioplasties ie procedures to open up blocked coronary arteries. It is not an 'open' procedure ie does not need a major incision...guide-wires are fed through the arteries to the heart from a small incision 'peripherally', and the internal procedure is viewable radiologically ie on a screen. I think one or more of Murray's previous angioplasty patients gave character witness evidence at the trial, and mentioned their procedures then.
 
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^^Oh thanks. I vaguely remember the witnesses, but my main recollection was about them saying how good he is as a doctor, how he checked on them, and of course that woman who said he is an encyclopedia. Sometimes the way things are written you get a whole different picture. They need to specify what type of heart procedure Muarry would be giving consultation for, because they will have another dead person on their hands.
 
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Petrarose said:
Hopefully he stays there and volunteers. That country has good doctors--most of them educated in the US/Canada/England, so Muarry is just looking for media attention. Also, that doctor from the ministry wants his name in the papers too.
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The University of the West Indies has also produced excellent, competent doctors.
 
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Admin Note: Links Removed. We don't really need them do we? No need to post hot links. Just post the story and name the source. So our members don't have to give any traffic to sites promoting or using Murray to profit. Thanks
 
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Petrarose said:
Bubs great article. I hope the medical board and that Faud Minister is paying attention. I like his point about the banana republic. Certainly T&T don't want to be known as the dumping ground for ex-criminals of the United States who can live there and continue their professions in luxury. I hope Muarry remains in his homeland, but certainly not as a doctor of medicine. He can take his blood money from the media and open some surgical equipment store in T&T. He gets a lot of money when he converts his US dollars.

By the way how could Muarry be a consultant for heart surgeries? I did not realize he was a surgeon?

Bubs do you find that the instrument's face has changed a great deal since the trial?
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I most certainly hope their minister of (un)-health pays attention to this article regarding criminal doctors.

I didn't pay attention to women's faces on the picture, and didn't see one of the woman on the photo was instrument. I thought there were just two dancers he picked up, you know the usual arm candy for CM.
I started seeing red when I had a good look at that photo, take a look and expression on CM's face - arrogance all over his face :puke:
 
^Oh I thought someone said the one on the left was the instrument, so that is why I was saying the face looked changed. Yes Muarry's face does show arrogance as usual. He looks fit, so jail was not as bad as he used to lament about. Hopefully he was able to take clean underwear to T&T. The sad thing is if they don't give him some job there, we might get him back. That is why I was hoping he could do something for himself over there.
 
Yet here in T&T our Minister of Health was suggesting a week or two ago that there was no reason why Murray could not practise in T&T if he got a licence. In this regard it is of note to mention that Section 12 of our Medical Board Act provides that once he has the relevant qualifications a person is entitled to be registered as a doctor if “he is of good character and a fit and proper person to practise medicine”. The obvious question to be asked is how could Dr Murray, in the light of his conviction and the statements made by both the trial and appellate courts in California, be considered to be of good character or a fit and proper person to practise medicine in this country?
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Indeed! Maybe it was the result of the civil trial the Minister found helpful.
 
He should be thankful he's not locked up the way he SHOULD be.. him practicing is a spit in the face!
 
I found this posted in the other site, source ET
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ET breaks down the new report that criticizes the clinic where Joan Rivers had surgery.

Among the mistakes, investigators report that the clinic failed to get Joan's informed consent for each procedure performed and "failed to identify deteriorating vital signs." The report also claims that a staff member "proceeded to take pictures of the surgeon and the patient with his cell phone."

ET has confirmed that Joan's daughter Melissa is planning to sue the clinic. Her attorney released a statement, saying, "Ms. Rivers is outraged by the misconduct and mismanagement now shown to have occurred before, during and after the procedure."

According to The New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner's (OCME) investigation, the official cause of Joan's death was anoxic encephalopathy (brain damage) due to hypoxic arrest (a decrease in oxygen to the brain) during surgery -- a laryngoscopy and upper gastrointestinal endoscopy.

The report also revealed that Joan was under propofol sedation during the procedure. Michael Jackson died from a fatal dose of propofol in 2009.

We asked Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician that was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in Michael Jackson's death, if there were any other comparisons to be made between the deaths of Michael and Joan.

"Not really," said Murray. "[Joan] seemed to have received about 300 milligrams of propofol within one minute, and I think that that would not be correct."

Joan's death was classified as a "therapeutic complication," which means that the death officially resulted from a predictable complication of medical therapy.

The legendary comedienne underwent a routine endoscopy in August to evaluate changes in her voice and to deal with acid reflux. She was placed in a medically induced coma after going into cardiac arrest and passed away a week later. She was 81.

Watch the Video: http://www.etonline.com/news/153792_...t_have_to_die/
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I fail to understand why ET asked CM like he is kind of expert on propofol :scratch:
If they needed an expert opinion, could they not find someone who is not convicted killer and who does have experience of propofol, like Shafer?
 
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Way to go ET. Another low. Obviously Murray has and had no clue about propofol dosage or how it works.
 
'We asked Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician that was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in Michael Jackson's death, if there were any other comparisons to be made between the deaths of Michael and Joan.

"Not really," said Murray.'.....The clinician in the Rivers' case wasn't chatting on the phone at the time, and ignoring the patient, like me.

Is what he SHOULD have said!
 
First, I am glad Joan has someone to deal with the lack of ethics and care including the person taking the photo. I wish Michael had someone like that to fight for him and deal with Dr. Tracey who took photos of Michael while sedated and exploited them. Second, Muarry knows nothing about Prof; ET knows nothing about Muary's lack of knowledge, so they deserve each other. Talk about going to the bottom feeders for expert advice!!! I guess they are trying desperately to tie Michael into this story.
 
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First, I am glad Joan has someone to deal with the lack of ethics and care including the person taking the photo. I wish Michael had someone like that to fight for him and deal with Dr. Tracey who took photos of Michael while sedated and exploited them. Second, Muarry knows nothing about Prof; ET knows nothing about Muary's lack of knowledge, so they deserve each other. Talk about going to the bottom feeders for expert advice!!! I guess they are trying desperately to tie Michael into this story.
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Yes. Out of all the people they could have talked to about Joan Rivers' death, they just HAD to talk to Murray? Like he really can say what somebody should have done right in a situation like that after he did something so stupid that caused the death of Michael Jackson. The people who should have been taking care of Joan messed up and they are being held accountable for it. But Murray let something similar happen to Michael and the media seeks him out for a comment like he's in a position to talk about Joan? Please.
 
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A disturbing sign of our modern-day media culture, where convicted felons become bonafide celebrities. Wrong on so many levels.
 
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