True, but Victory tour would be perfect to package with thriller 4k. It would sell more tbh. Mainstream knows/focuses more on that era anyway. History should get a doc though. If OTW doc didnt include a destiny/Triumph show then I dont expect History to get one imo.Snek;4284121 said:Just for argument’s sake, the Bad and Dangerous tours have already had home video releases. The HIStory tour has not. It makes sense to release a show from Michael’s third and final solo world tour. Though I’m hoping for a non-Munich show.
Anna;4284114 said:It's not unreasonable to expect a singer — especially one of Michael's caliber — to actually sing.
Anna;4284114 said:It's not unreasonable to expect a singer — especially one of Michael's caliber — to actually sing.
Snek;4284121 said:Just for argument’s sake, the Bad and Dangerous tours have already had home video releases. The HIStory tour has not. It makes sense to release a show from Michael’s third and final solo world tour. Though I’m hoping for a non-Munich show.
This guy had a channel called ''Michael Jackson Remastered Videos'' where he pretty much posted every concert that has leaked over the years. He had around 139k subscribers and his channel got deleted on December 24th 2019 because of copyright strikes on some HIStory Tour shows. Obviously this can mean nothing....but it can also mean that the Estate is planning on releasing something related to the HIStory Tour this year or next year.
Anyway...he explains it in this video (at around 2:12 he talks about the HIStory Tour videos):
I think they got taken down because the history tour is mostly playback or "studio version" as the youtube algorithm picks up.
This guy had a channel called ''Michael Jackson Remastered Videos'' where he pretty much posted every concert that has leaked over the years. He had around 139k subscribers and his channel got deleted on December 24th 2019 because of copyright strikes on some HIStory Tour shows. Obviously this can mean nothing....but it can also mean that the Estate is planning on releasing something related to the HIStory Tour this year or next year.
Anyway...he explains it in this video (at around 2:12 he talks about the HIStory Tour videos):
I wonder if the estate is doing anything with these audios.
Hulkamaniac;4284272 said:Those are bootlegs CDs which you could find in Amazon some years ago so it's weird to see them uploaded to his official channel.
Could be completely unrelated, but today I noticed that for the first time 2 concert audios were on the Michael Jackson YouTube channel. Yokohama 1987 and Auckland 1996.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mYFTWh37hJ6XOJxuODSf3i4KsPKGFaRS4
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFUTAtUdOTYPt0iQ_f1WxXMqlayrTQoMM
These were uploaded some time ago but have only just now being watchable for me at least. You can tell that these playlists were unlisted because of the low view counts on each video.
I wonder if the estate is doing anything with these audios.
Snek;4284270 said:Could be completely unrelated, but today I noticed that for the first time 2 concert audios were on the Michael Jackson YouTube channel. Yokohama 1987 and Auckland 1996.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mYFTWh37hJ6XOJxuODSf3i4KsPKGFaRS4
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kFUTAtUdOTYPt0iQ_f1WxXMqlayrTQoMM
These were uploaded some time ago but have only just now being watchable for me at least. You can tell that these playlists were unlisted because of the low view counts on each video.
I wonder if the estate is doing anything with these audios.
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Interesting. Those Auckland 1996 videos say in the description:
It looks like those weren't uploaded by the channel. They were auto-generated by Youtube for some reason.
The thing about that is, any casual fan going to a concert would expect to see him dance. Ultimately he had to make a compromise.I didn't mean that he took the piss by lip-syncing. I meant that he took the piss by not making his lip-syncing look less blatant.
But I agree with what you are saying. I think MJ had to change his style. Like you said, he just wasn't capable of doing singing and dancing at that level anymore, so I think perhaps he needed to start to focus more on singing and less on dancing as he got older. I know that would have been hard for him, as he had danced his entire life, but some changes had to be made.
Exactly. I can accept the playback on the dangerous tour because of what you said. Jam and Smooth criminal are big performances dance wise. YANA, Stranger in Moscow, Heal the world, History etc should of been live.In his later tours lip syncing was pretty much unavoidable, because some of the songs had very complex dance routines, and it would be difficult to focus on those dance moves while trying to sing at the same time. A good example I can think of is the song Dangerous. Then there's songs like Jam and Smooth Criminal that are already hard to sing even without all the dancing that goes with them.
So I understand that some songs need to be lip synced, but lip syncing an entire concert with the exception of only 2 songs is going way too far.
Yeah, but think about the numbers that come before those songs, for example, there is the History medley and Wanna Be Startin Somethin right before Stranger in Moscow, and if you watch the concerts back, he doesn’t take a break to breathe for very long and imagine how much it takes out of you to do those previous two numbers back to back.Robbsaber01;4284715 said:Exactly. I can accept the playback on the dangerous tour because of what you said. Jam and Smooth criminal are big performances dance wise. YANA, Stranger in Moscow, Heal the world, History etc should of been live.
Hudson112;4284722 said:Yeah, but think about the numbers that come before those songs, for example, there is the History medley and Wanna Be Startin Somethin right before Stranger in Moscow, and if you watch the concerts back, he doesn’t take a break to breathe for very long and imagine how much it takes out of you to do those previous two numbers back to back.
I guess it would be more likely that he would have sung SIM live if WBSS was taken out. Especially when you consider not only the two back to back big dance numbers, but the fact that one of them is actually sung live with varying degrees of quality, I don’t think his vocals would have sounded good afterwards on SIM.Nite Line;4284725 said:I really wish MJ dropped WBSS from the History Tour. It had gone stale live by then and Michael sounded terrible singing it live during the History Tour. Instead, he should have performed SIM straight after the opening medley and he could have sung it live.
I really wish MJ dropped WBSS from the History Tour. It had gone stale live by then and Michael sounded terrible singing it live during the History Tour. Instead, he should have performed SIM straight after the opening medley and he could have sung it live.
Hudson112;4284730 said:I guess it would be more likely that he would have sung SIM live if WBSS was taken out. Especially when you consider not only the two back to back big dance numbers, but the fact that one of them is actually sung live with varying degrees of quality, I don’t think his vocals would have sounded good afterwards on SIM.
I wish he would have dropped or changed the J5 medley. He could have performed One Day In Your Life instead of I'll Be There
This would be my History tour setlist
1. Childhood
2. Stranger in Moscow
3. Scream
4. This Time Around
5. They Don't Care About Us
6. Motown Medley I want you back-ABC- Never can Say Goodbye
7. Billie Jean
8. The Way You Make Me Feel
9. Bad
10. Earth Song
11. Heal the World
12. You Are Not Alone
13. Black Or White
14. Dangerous
15. Little Susie
16. Smile
You can't have a MJ concert without MITM closing off the show.