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"David had one of those rare friendships with Michael where Michael could always be himself," said Tito.

"As teenagers and into their 20s they were inseparable and were always getting into trouble and playing jokes on everyone. David was the other brother by another mother to Michael and I.

"He was never afraid to stand up to Michael and tell him the truth, whether he wanted to hear it or not."


Read more: Jackson 5 to team up with Cliff Richard - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...Richard/articleshow/7275033.cms#ixzz1B2RmvsjI

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They are still mad at MJ for the Estate thing,,,,Tito never attended any of the prelim hearings did he ? we know the rest except Mother , Latoya , and Joe were their for publicity !
 
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well I wish David Gest could've saved Mike from Dr Murray
 
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i think i missed something... what did he say that was wrong????
 
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^^I'm with you. I find nothing wrong with what Tito said, at all.
 
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StacyJ said:
well I wish David Gest could've saved Mike from Dr Murray
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i doubt he talked to him in years. he didnt even know what killed mj. so that tells u everything. same as his family
 
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Gest always had a big mouth and exaggerated his stories of Jackson a whole lot. He loves gossiping, going on talk-shows at times and talking to tabloids. Wondering where 'journalists' like Diane Diamond got their latest 'news' regarding Jackson's health and all. Of course, he spoke well of him as well. But still.

If one is friend with one of your brothers, doesn't mean he's yours or your friend still, or that you were something other than regular buddies armed for pranks. I doubt a real friend would tell the press all the garbage Gest did, all the embellishments he did, that would make Murray's defense bounce for joy any day these days. As far as I can recall, he even talked about Jackson to the magic "Sun"...
 
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I do not know why you could not find the punch line in this mean joke
"He was never afraid to stand up to Michael and tell him the truth, whether he wanted to hear it or not."


according to Tito, David (and u can ask Liza Menilli (sp) about him) is the wise friend who can tell MJ the truth although Michael hates to hear the truth,,,and this is very much related to the word denail....Tito is kissing David's ass and also at the same time he is sending a message that MJ is a dictatorial person ...Honstly , am I over reacting or does it very unnessassary to say this about your brother at the same time of trial when Murray's defense is pushing this idea !

why he said this !! and honestly , we all know who is Guest he is almost no body comapred to MJ , so he is not in the position to be givin all this privilage while destroying MJ's image !

I am very very sure that Tito and his 3 are still pissed off that they did not get a penny from MJ ! and this is some of the revenge !
 
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I agree with you Ohood. I saw the dig.
 
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The Jacksons do not surprise me anymore. They are a gang.
 
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the jacksons are a gang? i dont think they go around car jacking people or having drive bys...some fans hate the jacksons so much that they find the worst in every little thing that family does
 
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I'm sorry but it's a reach... If didn't mean that he was in denial.. that can be said about a good friend of anyone... I think you're reaching too far
 
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Thank u guys ,



i agree ! i must not post anything without a source !

it was a TV interview ,,,,but i must admit ,,,Tito later interviews were to insist that they are his bilogical , i guess he saw this by his own eyes which is better than what he was told by others .


sorry !
 
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Did he say that? if so the whole family makes me ill.
 
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Ohood said:
Thank u guys ,
i'm very disappointed with Tito ...he even was hinting in many interviews after Michael's death that MJ's kids are not his biological children... but they are going to take care of them anyway !!! are u for real Tito !
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I did not hear Tito say this in any interview. If you are going to say things like this to sway people's opinion's on the board away from a particular family member, it would be best to post such articles here for all to read and to see the context. That would only be appropriate and fair.
 
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Yes, please post a link to that. I have always liked Tito and doubt he would say something like that.
 
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Ohood, I agree. But if you think this is "spitting venom" then you haven't read other Tito interviews in which he simply slanders Michael.
 
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pilinlim said:
Source: the mirror
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funny thing about this article...and their suspicions of Michael's drug use.......The autopsy report that we have all seen and read...refutes their theory so I think they need to take a step back and rethink their lies.....secondly...I believe that all of them that came forward and through Michael under the bus prior to the prelim and heard the coroner say no drugs were found in Michael system....I think them same family members need to come out in public and apologize to Michael for the world to see. But they wont do that..because they know they will look stupid....they didn't care about how they made Michael look....but thats what it is I guess..all they are doing is showing us WHY Michael avoided them all in the first place
 
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Did Tito really do that 'Mirror' interview, or said those precise words? His tone sounds so vindictive in it, tabloids can't be trusted word for word, if ever.... Do they have Tito's picture with the interviewer attached to the interview?

If it is, I suppose he wasn't as 'addicted' when he was confronted for not wanting to tour with them....

When I mentioned David Gest speaking with the Sun, they had the actual picture of him and his interviewer, so..
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Just a reminder to everyone tabloid articles are only permitted in the tabloid section. Thanks.
 
Where is all the addicted talk and the talk about mj's kids come from???? The article is short and doesn't say anything about that... also I have never heard tito speak bad about mj.
 
yeah I noticed how the family hasn't said a word since the coroner revealed MJ was healthy. I also noticed when the prosecutor solely blamed Murray for why MJ isn't here, the Jackson family never said a word
 
who else remember Roger Friedman's story about Tito and Jackie nonstop fighting at Neverland before the trial ? I do remember that clearly, he said it was almost physical. Roger claimed MJ was so fed up with them and instructed his bodyguards not to allow them on his property again, but then they appeared during the trial with him and we thought Roger was lying. I remember Roger claiming his sources were saying the siblings were fighting over who should control MJ's business affairs and Randy eventually conquered.
 
Soundmind said:
who else remember Roger Friedman's story about Tito and Jackie nonstop fighting at Neverland before the trial ? I do remember that clearly, he said it was almost physical. Roger claimed MJ was so fed up with them and instructed his bodyguards not to allow them on his property again, but then they appeared during the trial with him and we thought Roger was lying. I remember Roger claiming his sources were saying the siblings were fighting over who should control MJ's business affairs and Randy eventually conquered.
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I remember it clearly.. Roger also said that some of his sources were Michael's siblings, -and quiet frankly I believe him.- along with Urine Smeller, Lester etc
 
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Friedman and his sources... Couldn't care less what tabloid sources have to say, frankly nobody should. These people are destroying others with their pen, and they did it much worse with Jackson, so nothing they'll ever say makes it right, true or false, they're plain evil. If tabloids one day ceased getting mentioned of, a much quieter, peaceful world would there be.
 
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Alma said:
Friedman and his sources... Couldn't care less what tabloid sources have to say, frankly nobody should. These people are destroying others with their pen, and they did it much worse with Jackson, so nothing they'll ever say makes it right, true or false, they're plain evil. If tabloids one day ceased getting mentioned of, a much quieter, peaceful world would there be.
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MJ's family has absolutely no values so why pretend it's just the "evil tabloids"?
 
Alma said:
Friedman and his sources... Couldn't care less what tabloid sources have to say, frankly nobody should. These people are destroying others with their pen, and they did it much worse with Jackson, so nothing they'll ever say makes it right, true or false, they're plain evil. If tabloids one day ceased getting mentioned of, a much quieter, peaceful world would there be.
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No Alma with Roger it is differnet he confessed after MJ's death in his site and to everyone that the Jacksons were his source and after MJ's death he announced that he regrets believing them and he realized that all they were trying to feed him with was to hurt MJ and not to help him....Ofcourse this apology will never be accepted becuase if he really cared he would never wrote these horrible things true or false,,,,i do not say that Roger is an innocent man , for me he is an opportunistic but he admitted that the Jacksons are his source and after MJ's death he admitted his mistake ,,,,,and they could not deny this !
 
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after MJ's death he announced that he regrets believing them and he realized that all they were trying to feed him with was to hurt MJ and not to help him....
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This big fat lie is enough to see through people like this man. He couldn't wait to be 'fed' with trash, whether by the Jacksons or any other 'source' to get his stories told and is enough to feel nauseous and stop bringing up their trash. Moreover, this doesn't mean All of the Jackson family members were selling stories to him, generalizing isn't a good thing. If we're still on this page, I'd be curious to know who from the family sold the said stories: Randy.... and.. That's a genuine and serious question, I'm curious. It's horrible nonetheless, and I've heard about this before.

Admitting to his mistake.... too laughable for words, too. Also, if this guy is saying that the Jacksons are his sources Michael-related, that's another lie by omission, he has/had other sources of gossip as well, he just wants to suck up to fans so he earns himself more credibility.

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Alma said:
This big fat lie is enough to see through people like this man. He couldn't wait to be 'fed' with trash, whether by the Jacksons or any other 'source' to get his stories told and is enough to feel nauseous and stop bringing up their trash. Moreover, this doesn't mean All of the Jackson family members were selling stories to him, generalizing isn't a good thing. If we're still on this page, I'd be curious to know who from the family sold the said stories: Randy.... and.. That's a genuine and serious question, I'm curious. It's horrible nonetheless, and I've heard about this before.

Admitting to his mistake.... too laughable for words, too. Also, if this guy is saying that the Jacksons are his sources Michael-related, that's another lie by omission, he has/had other sources of gossip as well, he just wants to suck up to fans so he earns himself more credibility.

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i agree with this and the other post you made above this. some people on here want to vilify the family so bad that they believe any and everything written about them, or they take a snippet from an article like in this thread and reach for something thats not there. i understand that everyone isnt gonna like the family, but :
1) being a mj fan we know how tabloids can lie and even "so-called credible sources", so why is everything printed about the family true???
2)if they lied on mj all these years, what makes them think they had some kind of "epiphany" and all of sudden whant to tell the truth now
3) when mj said burn all the tabloids he meant it. not burn all the tabloids only when they talk about me.

n its sad that some are actually buying into that bs that freidman said. i highly doubt its true anyway. n yes some jacksons could be selling him stories, but that doesnt mean its a brother or sister. it could be a cousin or some other distant relative. n if want to reveal something, show us some receipts and info that you received from which family member.
 
well, you know what Roger said that Oxman was fired by Mez in the middle of the trial cus there was a 3 million dollars missing , MJ instructed them to use that money to pay the employees at Neverland plus the defence expenses, but somehow the 3 millions vanished, in the same article his sources told him Randy was in the hot seat and promised to get $ 200.000 to pay the employees back then but he could not.
In February 2007, MJ filed a lawsuit against lawyers and accountants hired by Randy. Among the accusations were 2.5 millions ANNUALLY stolen from his accounts.

We did not believe Roger back then. He was claiming MJ was in dire financial situation and was not paying his bills which turned out to be the reality, but it was not MJ's fault, it was Randy's . After MJ's death, we were able to get more info, and we are able to see the full picture.

No one back then on MJ's sites could have ever thought Randy was stealing from Mike. Mike had to deal with that in secrecy, he had to take the blame for what Randy was doing.MJ was paying Randy to pay others, but Randy was stealing everything and the lawsuits had kept being filed against MJ.

Tito said security guys prevented them from entering Neverland, Roger reported a similar story back then, but the reason MJ instructed the bodyguards not to allow them there was so much different from what Tito claimed. Tito was fighting with Jackie over MJ's business affairs and MJ was so fed up with them all. Roger would have liked to blame it on MJ's so called addiction like he did later when Randy became his source and he took his side when MJ accused him under oath of plotting to take his assets from him during the trial,

the motive was not "drugs" when it came to that incident Tito mentioned, it was pure power struggle between the siblings.

which one of the siblings said after his death, the family believed MJ was going to jail back then? If they believed that, then "being in control" was an issue to them all.
 
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well, you know what Roger said that Oxman was fired by Mez in the middle of the trial cus there was a 3 million dollars missing , MJ instructed them to use that money to pay the employees at Neverland plus the defence expenses, but somehow the 3 millions vanished, in the same article his sources told him Randy was in the hot seat and promised to get $ 200.000 to pay the employees back then but he could not.
In February 2007, MJ filed a lawsuit against lawyers and accountants hired by Randy. Among the accusations were 2.5 millions ANNUALLY stolen from his accounts.

We did not believe Roger back then. He was claiming MJ was in dire financial situation and was not paying his bills which turned out to be the reality, but it was not MJ's fault, it was Randy's . After MJ's death, we were able to get more info, and we are able to see the full picture.

No one back then on MJ's sites could have ever thought Randy was stealing from Mike. Mike had to deal with that in secrecy, he had to take the blame for what Randy was doing.MJ was paying Randy to pay others, but Randy was stealing everything and the lawsuits had kept being filed against MJ.

Tito said security guys prevented them from entering Neverland, Roger reported a similar story back then, but the reason MJ instructed the bodyguards not to allow them there was so much different from what Tito claimed. Tito was fighting with Jackie over MJ's business affairs and MJ was so fed up with them all. Roger would have liked to blame it on MJ's so called addiction like he did later when Randy became his source and he took his side when MJ accused him under oath of plotting to take his assets from him during the trial,

the motive was not "drugs" when it came to that incident Tito mentioned, it was pure power struggle between the siblings.

which one of the siblings said after his death, the family believed MJ was going to jail back then? If they believed that, then "being in control" was an issue to them all.
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so how do we know randy was stealing money??? the title you posted said "In February 2007, MJ filed a lawsuit against lawyers and accountants hired by Randy. Among the accusations were 2.5 millions ANNUALLY stolen from his accounts." it doesnt say randy stole the money. so how on one hand would randy hire accountants, but then be responsible to pay the bills?? i thought that was the accountants job. also mj had some finance issues before randy came along. it didnt happen just because of randy but im sure that mess didnt help. i think that mj had some bad accountants and lawyers before then that wasnt handling business like they were suppose to do.
now if mj did say under oath that randy was plotting to take his assets, then thats messed up.. was he gonna do with them anyway??? its not like he was gonna keep it for himself. so somebody probably was trying to buy it from mj and randy was in on it. thats just not right though.. do you have a link or something to that disposition...

now the incident youre talking about(between the brothers) happened during the trail. i thought the incident tito was talking about happened a few years before then. i do know of the story about the brothers fighting and mj not wanting them to come back to his house.
 
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