"Breaking News" All General Discussion Here [Merged]

What do You Think Now???

  • Now im Sure Its Michael!!!

    Votes: 89 21.4%
  • I Still Think its Not him!!!

    Votes: 223 53.7%
  • I now think that its Michael, but still have my doubts!!

    Votes: 24 5.8%
  • Im Confused!!!!

    Votes: 79 19.0%

  • Total voters
    415
  • Poll closed .
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Guys if a machine can completly change your voice how can we say its defo not him???
Its defo him in parts
I no its sounds stupid but just because it dont sound like him doesnt mean it isnt???
I think it all depends what the rest of the cascio tracks are like
I think any one who isnt buying the album is a fool.

yes , agree with that... and by the way, the song was recorded in 2007, michaels voice was a bit different in that era, and the song was finished in 2010, so new effects and vocals were added... buts its Michael!!!!
 
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I want to know who the supposed experts were that sony brought in?
What was their criteria?
 
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So Teddy Riley is saying, without doubt, that the vocals are Michael's.
 
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I agree!!! I think these fans have been listening to all this crap and they fall for it. His voice has changed - more mature- that's it. But it is him! It is an amazing song period, and if these fans that feel its fake don't want to buy this incredible album then that is their problem. I know the rest of the world will, and I certainly will buy several copies!!!

This is ridiculous - I wonder if noone would have brought up that it might not be MJ, if the fans would have reacted this way or they would have enjoyed it like I have been enjoying it!!

Tricia70 calm down! i normally agree with your posts but not this one. We all know it isn't him. I listened to the songs thinking i can't wait to hear how this goes, whats the chorus gonna be like etc. I didn't think now lets listen to these vocals and see if they are michael or not. But then a while into the song i suddenly went, hang on, this isn't mike and it doesn't sound anything like him, we all know it. If we make enough of a storm about this, there is always a chance sony will replace the song with a genuine michael song.
 
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On top of the fact that it doesnt sound like Michael.

Michael would never shout out his own name like that in a song.
 
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Taken down from MichaelJackson.com already. :huh:

Yeah coz you know we aint idiots!
 
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Teddy Riley is saying John McClain is behind all of this.
 
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can someone post the whole thing when its done?

Ivy posted this in the album thread...

The below is the transcript (not perfect I really typed fast there could be parts that I missed and misunderstood and I omitted non album related stuff) of Teddy Riley interview he had done last night. You can listen it from the following link starting at 1:34

http://gyantunplugged.com/exclusive...plus-discusses-the-greedy-people-out-for-mjs/


Q = Jackson family has come out publicly and said that these tracks are fake and they are not indeed Michael Jackson . We said let's call Teddy he'll know.
TR = This is my first interview about this topic. Take everything I say seriously. I have been a real friend to Michael Jackson, this record is coming out tomorrow and I'm still haven't gotten paid for this project. Because I did it for Michael Jackson. Not for Sony. Not for the family. Understand what I'm saying and you can read between the lines. Everyone including who we are talking about is bickering and fighting over Michael. It's unimportant, the important thing is to have his legacy going. These vocals are Michael Jackson. All of the people who have been in the studio with Michael for 20 years all the professionals and musicologists went in and they all say it's Michael including me. We worked with Michael, we have been in the studio with Michael. There has been times when Michael didn't even want to be around family and friends. So read between the lines. None of them have been in the studio with Michael for 25 years. None of them. Everyone - exclude Sony - all the people stayed with Michael like Michael Franks who is Michael's right arm like Brett Boxter the guy who always records Michael. All of these people knows Michael's voice. I'm called the finisher because I'm always called at the end of the projects. Michael called me at the end of Invincible. I was called in the end of History including Dangerous I was called in the end and wind up having doing 40-50% of the album. I'm called at the end of every project and I was called at the end of this project because some of the producers that worked on this project had never worked with Michael so they couldn't really figure out what Michael really wanted. They were doing remixes. So when you hear this record you'll hear the records that I worked on. All of a sudden my records that's being scrutinized. It's Michael. And the person who is really trying to stir this up is JM. He challenged me on this record. He is the head of the estate and he challenged me because I said I can't work in this studio I'm not comfortable and I when I left the studio he assigned another producer to mix the same songs that I have worked on and my songs beat him. Now all of a sudden it's not Michael's voice why? Because his songs didn't make it.

Q = So this is a smear campaign
TR= yes it is and the thing is they will lose. Take Sony, take us all, let's go to court. Let's put it on front street and everything the family the estate will be on the front street. And all the truth will come out and you'll see who is right and wrong. It's been going on so long. Michael is the greatest entertainer, greatest person in the whole wide world why would you want to do that to your family? Let the legacy live.

Q= what is your take on the album being released?
TR= My take is keeping the legacy going. How would we keep Michael Jackson the greatest going if we don't have anything. Now I heard 50 records with my own ears. What he would do is go record the first verse and the chorus and he wouldn't do a second verse just to get the idea going. So the next album coming you know I don't want to say too much but the next album coming is a duet album that's gonna be with a lot of great artists because he only did the first verses. It would be great artists with substance. It would be artists that are very creative and great. And I'm going to be a part of that because of my contribution. Even to this album my contribution to this album is not for Sony is not for anyone it's for Michael. The proof is in the pudding I didn't even got a contract. I promise you. They'll streaming it tomorrow. and people will tell you I came on this project because of Michael not anyone else. So when this gentleman told me to come to this project and don't worry it was for him to put his name on my records.

Q= I take you have your attorney's on for tomorrow?
TR= No question. My attorney is the greatest attorney in Atlanta (Joel Katz) so I'm not worried about anything he's the best. All I worry is my friend (MJ) having a great album. When I started the first song they thought that I'll be like the other producers taking 5 -6 days. No I took 5 hours and finished the first song. So when I finished the first song , they thought I'll do one song because a lot producers spent months on one song. Me I came in did it in 5 hours because I knew I had sounds that Michael made us go sample that was his thing sounds. He made us go in the wilderness and sample, go to his zoo and sample lions . Back in the day when they had stereo decks he made us go out sample sounds. He went out to his zoo in Neverland and sampled wild animals. Well that's another story to tell. There's so much friction and people just don't understand family everyone needs to get this legacy going. Like everyone saying "Elvis is still alive" Well you are killing Michael. Why? I wanted to tell you that all that's going on is all about money and everyone is in it for the wrong reasons. Their intentions are wrong.

Q= How did you feel when you were working on this project.
TR= Listen I did everything under the sun cried, sad. Then I came in one day I said the only thing that would make me feel like Michael is here is that I called his photographer Harrison Funk and asked him to come in and bring all the pictures of Michael. I had pictures all around the studio which you can probably see if we do a documentary. So you'll see pictures of Michael all around the studio so that I can feel like he's in the room with me. That was the only thing to keep me sane and not go crazy because you would hear me on the music hitting the keyboards and tears coming out of my eyes.

Q = do you think conspiracy (asking about the album)
TR= Definitely conspiracy. I cannot say directly say it because I signed a nondisclosure agreement. There has been a conspiracy from A to Z. There are people who are doing this for good because they are doing it for the good of the children. There are people who are stopping it because they think good of the children is not in their best interest. ( He declines to comment about Michael's death and conspiracy ).
 
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yes , agree with that... and by the way, the song was recorded in 2007, michaels voice was a bit different in that era

Really? Because he sounds exactly the same to me on Hold My Hand and in This is It.....:scratch:
 
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Frank Cascio just posted this
Francesco Cascio: Sadly to say its Not Sony In this case. "Breaking News" is a great song. The mix on the version that you heard is not correct, that being said, It is 100% Michael voice. He recorded it in my home in NJ in 2007. Please, the fans should be enjoying this special moment as It is special!!! There are people out there trying to take that away from you " The Fans " and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it.. I hope this find you Well. thank you for supporting MJ all these years. He loved all of his Fans from the bottom of his heart, you were his extended Family and what kept him going. Please read between the lines in this situation. All my love, Frank

Could it relate to the pitch thing? Getting late and I am a bit tired. Tomorrow I will start a thread presenting another version of the song (already did some pitch editing for the better)
 
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Frank Cascio just posted this
Francesco Cascio: Sadly to say its Not Sony In this case. "Breaking News" is a great song. The mix on the version that you heard is not correct, that being said, It is 100% Michael voice.

So Cascio is saying Teddy Riley ruined the song by over mixing it, while TR said the song was "unacceptable" before he was brought in???

So many conflicting reports - talk about going around in circles!! Are people just saving their own skin?
 
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Taken down from MichaelJackson.com already. :huh:

Yeah coz you know we aint idiots!

Not for me. Video still on MJ.com here.

Plays and everything.

Maybe it is MJ afterall.
 
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Nvm yeah I see it... Just took a long time to load.



Still aint Michael. :sleep:
 
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You know, this sounds like an argument between three produces. John McClain, Teddy Riley and Cascio. It sounds like an ego-battle that has burst in to the public arena.
 
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Darkchild: It doesnt sound like him to me.

http://twitter.com/only1darkchild

Thank you for speaking out! I am not insane afterall.

Can someone link me to wherever John McClain said that the Cascio tracks were fake?

John McClain said they were fake?! isn't he part of the estate?

Yes he's part of the Estate. Someone here said McClain said that, I haven't seen it myself, so I'm still asking for a link..

I assume it's this message he posted on FB?

Gawd.

MESS.
 
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Nvm yeah I see it... But only if I got into the forum?

the song is on the main page for me Lorraine? And I am in the UK too :S weird.

try going onto the main page and holding down CTRL + F5 , it will refresh your browsers cache of the page and display the correct content.
 
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he sounds more similar than from the earliest jackson five song to the this is it rehearsals...than he does on this record...it has nothing to do with time changes...listen to how he sounded in the rehearsals is that what uv heard today? x
 
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Teddy said mclain was remixing cascio songs and when he didnt win the race ro produce them, he started saying they are fake
 
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This song is absolutely not Michael.

I've been listening to the 20 second snippet of "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" on repeat instead. Says a lot...

exactly! u can tell "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" is MJ right off the bat
 
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This song is absolutely not Michael.

I've been listening to the 20 second snippet of "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" on repeat instead. Says a lot...

DYWYCA FTW!!!:clapping:
 
Whether the song is fake or not, it is a shame that we fans have been placed in this sad and tragic situation like this again when it comes to new material from Michael or performance or tour back in the years when he was alive. Obviously nothing has changed since the last 8-9 years when disappointments concerning Michael keeps on occuring. The Sony conflict, Bashir, accusations, trials, greatest hits albums, We Are The World performance in WMA06, This Is It tour, death, TII movie and so on and now this. Of all the songs Sony could´ve released from the vault they chose one song, which in my opinion think it is real, that have caused anger, disappointments, suspicions among us fans about that song. It is a real pain to see all the fights between a label, an estate, executors and fans on how in Gods green earth you release completely new Michael material that we haven´t seen for the past 9 years in a smooth, peaceful way. Michaels music was and is to good for this fallen place of earth and now I don´t know which person or organisation are able to handle the yet unreleased material from Michael in this world. Everybody seems to have a corrupt mind when it comes to his material. Everything was so much better back in the days of the 70s, 80s and 90s of releasing albums.
 
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can someone elaborate on this part of the riley radio interview?

"And the person who is really trying to stir this up is JM. He challenged me on this record. He is the head of the estate and he challenged me because I said I can't work in this studio I'm not comfortable and I when I left the studio he assigned another producer to mix the same songs that I have worked on and my songs beat him. Now all of a sudden it's not Michael's voice why? Because his songs didn't make it."
 
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Who on Earth are we meant to believe?
 
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After all I start to hear MJ in verses somewhere far far away. I mean it could be my imagination, but I also assume that his could be heavily edited. Or how does it come that there's Michael on ad-libs (even if the pitch is decreased and the voice is mastered) and somebody different on verses?..
Anyway, I'm off to bed. Praying for thing to clear this morning. Good luck to you all guys!
 
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what Darkchild said was posted on Francesco Cascio's facebook profile, and he deleted it.
 
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Really? Because he sounds exactly the same to me on Hold My Hand and in This is It.....:scratch:

for this is it he had several singing lessons... and we all know that in 2007 Michael was more down mentaly and fisicaly, that in 2009... and songs can be touched and mixed... look at 2000Watts!!!! hold my hand was made in 2008, so 1 year can make the difference... and what about the other snippet - Do You Know (Where Your Children Are)
?? will you tell its not him too???
 
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