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What do You Think Now???

  • Now im Sure Its Michael!!!

    Votes: 89 21.4%
  • I Still Think its Not him!!!

    Votes: 223 53.7%
  • I now think that its Michael, but still have my doubts!!

    Votes: 24 5.8%
  • Im Confused!!!!

    Votes: 79 19.0%

  • Total voters
    415
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Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

I want the ORIGINAL!!!!
 
di12;3056569 said:
@TeddyRiley1 TEDDY RILEY
Only cause of Michael and the jackson family, who felt I should be on the project, cause of my relationship with Michael. Cont.



TeddyRiley1 TEDDY RILEY
I did not write the Songs, I was called in to mix and finish what I was given, Without compensation only cause of Michael...Cont.
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TEDDY RILEY
TeddyRiley1 TEDDY RILEY
I was called on this project by the estate, Sony, and the family co signed it. These songs are created by the Cascios. Cont.
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You see! Ted wasn't even with Michael when these songs were allegedly created he took what was given to him and mixed it to become a final product. He wouldn't know 100% if this was Michael either.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

There is no need to argue. Let's not rip each other apart over this.

It's not Michael.

If you believe it is, great, enjoy the song and go and enjoy the record, seriously. We've waited long enough for it.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

Thanks for the heads up.... and he's throwing around the F bomb at people too.

Wow...

These people really are showing their true colors. Riley is off the chains too, he's just a wolf in sheep's clothing. Wasn't he talking trash of Jackson until he got selected to work for him again for his new album? And how can you reply that way and on your own Twitter.

0_0

Rant over. Just starting to count Michael's true friends and the number seems to be reducing by the minute...
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

On Monday 8th November 2010, @tjjackson said:

"There's many MJ vocal impersonators. Some better than others. But there is only ONE Michael Jackson. Deceptively merging shady vocals with MJ samples (from prior MJ records) will never fool me. Why they would ignore the obvious, look the other way and rush a suspicious track that was NEVER on my Uncle's radar is beyond me. I'm disgusted, disappointed and saddened. And before the media starts to smear our name, just remember we are COMMITTED (as our Uncle Michael always knew) to protect his name and his amazing legacy he worked his whole life for. We have nothing to gain and we know they will try to drag our name through the mud. But we know how much he valued his legacy and his fans. And cheating either is unacceptable. "Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons"
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

Cancel them pre-orders people! CANCEL EM!!! I don't know who the HELL is on that track, but I do know that that TRACK IS WACK!! And I don't remember who was in this thread talking about "its okay if SOME of the vocals are Michael" Um... since when is it okay to tell the public that a track is MICHAEL JACKSON (or any other singer for that matter) only to have just a few of his vocals along with some impersonator?? What is this Milli Vanilli?

Cancel them preorders people!!! I didn't pre-order and I sure as HELL won't be until Sony gets this shit RIGHT. I'm TIRED ya'll. He should be here singing his OWN damn songs, not some posthumous CD Sony's trying to give us that's filled with craptastic songs and fake ass vocals.

CANCEL YOUR PRE-ORDERS!
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

We've been hearing Michael the way we have for 30 years. It isn't going to change that dramatically in 6 years. Clearly, it is NOT Michael on the track but Malachi.

At first, Malachi was nothing but a wannabe, with no connections to Michael other than the comparisons people made. Now, he's showing up singing as if he was Michael? I suspect Sony asked and paid him to record the song.

Secondly, the lyrics are obviously un-Michael. MJ wouldn't write a song where he says his own name that many times. I think they added "cause I'm Michael Jackson" in to subliminally convince people that it IS indeed Michael. He knows who he is, the fans and public know who he is - he can write a song with that meaning without being direct towards himself.

Thirdly, people are speculating that Teddy Riley produced the song. After working with Michael for so long, I think Teddy would decline signing onto an elaborate hoax that involved no Michael at all. Teddy filed for bankruptcy not too long ago, so to make certain his paycheck, he WILL say this track is genuine.

The vocals are very unlike how Michael would execute them. There are a lot of techniques Michael never used before, and if he did I wouldn't expect them to sound like that. I believe Sony sampled some trademark hoo/aow/hee hee/dah sounds to make it more genuine. Malachi lacks the vibrato, and the distinct pronunciation and vocal softness is not there.

The only question left is WHY? Why would Sony, who have plenty of songs in the vault that are actually Michael, create this? If it's a PR stunt, they have to reveal themselves with something HUGE soon to avoid mass panning by the fans.

Quite clearly, the fact that this many people have doubts over THE Michael Jackson's voice on this track shows it isn't him. His voice changing from Invincible to this, and then back to Invincible for This Is It proves it.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

Okay, i have read what Taryll has to say. The acapella he refers to.

It's noticeable that the song has been produced a lot. What i can pick from teh song is that it has been refined and parts of MJ singing extracted and layered in with background vocals too in support.

If you remember the song "This Is It", it's said it was recorded in the 1980s, but you could hear it was not fully produced and sounded old. At teh time i questioned whether Sony could not have produced the song to sound better.

Now when MJ sings at home or in the studio before the final take, even when you listen to his demo songs, including on the box-set, some of those demos are not release quality. Think of the number of times they had to re-produce Thriller.

So Breaking News was done as a demo by Michael. The song and its message was powerful so it was believed this should be the first release as it helps shut down his critics who have been slandering him over the years since 2003 through 2005 and MJ never had a chance to respond. After that, other songs can be released.

So the planners had to deal with the issues at hand, negativity of critics and then MJ's music.

The problem on their hands was a powerful starter song. Breaking News did it, but they lacked a fully produced song, so they really had to work on the demo.

The result is a produced song that leads some to question whether it's MJ's voice.

Listen to a song on the HIStory album, then listen to the same song remixed on the Blood on the Dance Floor album. On teh second album, MJ's voice sounds mixed and is only in some places but it's still him.

So for Taryll who listened the original, it's like a transition from listening to the original raw thing and then listening to the remix without a stopover at the final cut.

That's why their is this gap, but definitely MJ vocals are there.

What seems to have happened also is that the producer may have picked the "ohwhoo!" part from other MJ tracks and laid it on this song, so Tarryll cannot recall MJ saying "ohwhoo!" on this song and wonders how it all came about.

I also think people are mixing up the background vocals with MJ's voice. The people singing the chorus for the first part and most parts don't have MJ in them, even though one sounds like MJ. But MJ's strong voice is clear in these parts.

"Everybody wantin' a piece of .."
"Everybody watchin' the news for.."
"All the news today.."
"You're breaking the news"

So in four segments of the song, at the start, middle, about the end and very end, it's clearly MJ's voice. The rest is mostly background voice and instrumentation.


Also what i can understand from Tarryll's point of view is that he's used to hearing more lyrics in a song by Michael.
But as i said earlier, the producers may have chosen to substitute most of these with background voacals because Michael had not recorded his final take that would sound well in a chorus when synched with other background vocals for the part.

They should have tried to explained to Tarryl their production decisions rather than telling him a series of lies which just made matters worse and left him more suspicious.

But it's better produced than releasing a quality similar to "This is it" song which sounded so 80's, hollow and like a demo.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

MICHAEL JACKSON data bank France : Michael Jackson does not sing on the song Breaking News available at MichaelJackson.com- There is an actual song called Breaking News recorded by Michael Jackson and members of the cascio family, but this is not the song played on MichaelJackson.com.- 2 persons are involved in this mascarade, which is an insult to Michael Jackson's legacy...

wheres that from?
 
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TEDDY RILEY twitter

This is for everyone that wanna point fingers...you asked me questions I gave my answer in what I can disclose.

Here's my quote and forever whoever don't believe me, **** you!!!!

I was called on this project by the estate, Sony, and the family co signed it. These songs are created by the Cascios.

I did not write the Songs, I was called in to mix and finish what I was given, Without compensation only cause of Michael...

Only cause of Michael and the jackson family, who felt I should be on the project, cause of my relationship with Michael.

All of the producer that worked on this project got paid before they worked. At the last minute of working on this project...

These issue about MJ vocals not being real came into par. The vocal yes I feel they are MJ vox...they are very processed...

The vocals I was given to me from the Cascios was all I had to work with. I can't and no one can prove anything but MJ...


I've worked with MJ 4 times...we spent 1 yr 2, months together working on dangerous, 6 months on history, 2 months on Adam family. 6-8 months on invincible...all of these projects in the pass 20 yrs

Michael is not hear to voice himself and let you know the truth. I asked the company to bring in everyone...professionals, friends, family, and the people who worked with Michael many year and before me.

Everyone said it is Michael except the family who says its not because there's no proof

All I'm gonna say here is that I believe its MJ. The truth of this of it all no one knows be MJ and god knows

I have nothing more to say and I can't prove anything...I did not original produce his vocals nor these songs. I remix, made the tracks different from what they had which would have been unacceptable.

I've answered all that I can answer for MJ fan. The Cascios have a tweeter page...they have your answers...

If you don't have anything pleasant to ask or talk about don't hit me page. In fact, don't follow me...I've been very nice...

I apologize to MJ fan for not having the answers. Blessing to you all
 
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Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

i swear if i find that malachi guy...............
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

Thanks for the heads up.... and he's throwing around the F bomb at people too.

If you see what some people are saying to him, I don't blame him.
Some people are calling him all kinds of names.
 
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I am devasted. I wanted to wait for the best, I really wanted to believe, I want to have finally an clearer idea of where the light is, but instead, we ware just being given lies and darkness.

Why do we have to go through this? Why do Michal have to suffer this?

I don't hear Michael in that thing. Not at all and I don't even mean to hear it again, for it hurts like crazy.

I feel totally broken and lost. I no longer know what to think. Teddy might say many things, but our hearts can't be fooled. We know.

Why, why, why??????

I should take a rest for a long while. Otherwise, I am really going to get sick and mad. This is terrible. What they, all of them (Estate/$ony/Cascios/Vault/MJ relatives/producers), are hurting us deeper and deeper.

And some would say they enjoy it.

:weeping: :weeping: :weeping:
 
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I'm confused!

Are some of you trying to deny that there are ANY MJ vocals on this song, or just some vocals are not his (such as backing vocals)?

You honestly don't think it is MJ on this record at all?
 
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That's pure madness. Riely seems to be really pissed.

lol..i'm not gunna click that link, but last time i looked, that didn't look like a verified account..
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

On Monday 8th November 2010, @tjjackson said:

"There's many MJ vocal impersonators. Some better than others. But there is only ONE Michael Jackson. Deceptively merging shady vocals with MJ samples (from prior MJ records) will never fool me. Why they would ignore the obvious, look the other way and rush a suspicious track that was NEVER on my Uncle's radar is beyond me. I'm disgusted, disappointed and saddened. And before the media starts to smear our name, just remember we are COMMITTED (as our Uncle Michael always knew) to protect his name and his amazing legacy he worked his whole life for. We have nothing to gain and we know they will try to drag our name through the mud. But we know how much he valued his legacy and his fans. And cheating either is unacceptable. "Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons"


Exactly... impersonators mixed with MJ samples, i.e, the 'aoowws'...
 
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To answer that question: Yes, apparently so.

But I'm gonna try that next time I don't feel like making dinner and all we've got is some cat food in the cupboard...
Aw, honey, it's steak! Yes it is! I guarantee it 100%! I cooked it myself! :doh:
:rollin: :rofl:
 
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I gotta admit that what will.i.am told me on the phone in early September now makes sense. It totally makes sense. The fact that he did not want to talk about the album and was uncomfortable when I mentioned it...
and why he talked to the media saying MJ would not approve of this.

You got my respect Will.
 
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Re-listening again. the beginning part-- "if you thought there was nothing more to say about MJ, just wait" and "what they did find was a series of lies" and "another lawsuit"... maybe that's a hint.
 
Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

I think this is a cut vocals of MJ and someone else....
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

What I dont understand is that Teddy Riley got paid before he mixed the song together and started to work on it ...When he got the chance to hear the song for the first time didnt he just hear that aint Mike on that record after working with him for decades ? I would return the money and run away from the project if I was him ... So he just simply said to himslef lets mix this baby. I dont understand how he could do such a thing ...
 
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I read some comments here saying that we only "believe" it's fake because of all the fake talk the past week or two. But see, that's just the thing! I thought all that talk of fake vocals was total BS! I didn't believe it! I believed Teddy that it was real! I was soooo excited, stayed up all night to hear Michael. :wild: I absolutely believed I'd hear Michael and then once the vocals started and my heart was leaping into my throat, from the very first word I was like... who the heck is this?!!! Certainly not Michael. It's not Michael. I know his voice better than my own mother's after all these years. In fact, the only MJ I hear in that track is the sampled "hoo!" sound. And I've listened very, very closely. It's so obviously fake it's shocking.

Some of this reminds me of choosing fabric for my bridesmaids dresses a few years ago. I wanted orangey-peach and my mom bought the fabric and it was freakin' PINK. She insisted it wasn't pink, lol, but it was pink. We argued and argued. And although pinky-peach may look similar to orangey-pink, it ain't the same color. Once we found the right color fabric she finally saw it... yep, it was pink. Little perceptions. Like I couldn't be a wine taster, but I KNOW Michael's voice. I've been in love with every tiny inflection of it since the 80's. In LOVE with it, that beautiful, unique voice! :wub: And BN is *not* Michael, no matter who's in on the scam and claims on Twitter or Facebook that it's real. It doesn't change the fact that it's not his voice.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

Cancel them pre-orders people! CANCEL EM!!! I don't know who the HELL is on that track, but I do know that that TRACK IS WACK!! And I don't remember who was in this thread talking about "its okay if SOME of the vocals are Michael" Um... since when is it okay to tell the public that a track is MICHAEL JACKSON (or any other singer for that matter) only to have just a few of his vocals along with some impersonator?? What is this Milli Vanilli?

Cancel them preorders people!!! I didn't pre-order and I sure as HELL won't be until Sony gets this shit RIGHT. I'm TIRED ya'll. He should be here singing his OWN damn songs, not some posthumous CD Sony's trying to give us that's filled with craptastic songs and fake ass vocals.

CANCEL YOUR PRE-ORDERS!

I already did it.
Last night.
I am not supporting this crap.
And if some say there are just a few real MJ songs, then I just want those. And I can buy them one by one, if any.
anyway, it things get clearer, I can always get it again.
But not at this moment.
 
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The only question left is WHY? Why would Sony, who have plenty of songs in the vault that are actually Michael, create this?

because they have only a few real songs left. and like this they can have 1000 fake songs for 100 albums
 
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Okay, i have read what Taryll has to say. The acapella he refers to.

It's noticeable that the song has been produced a lot. What i can pick from teh song is that it has been refined and parts of MJ singing extracted and layered in with background vocals too in support.

If you remember the song "This Is It", it's said it was recorded in the 1980s, but you could hear it was not fully produced and sounded old. At teh time i questioned whether Sony could not have produced the song to sound better.

Now when MJ sings at home or in the studio before the final take, even when you listen to his demo songs, including on the box-set, some of those demos are not release quality. Think of the number of times they had to re-produce Thriller.

So Breaking News was done as a demo by Michael. The song and its message was powerful so it was believed this should be the first release as it helps shut down his critics who have been slandering him over the years since 2003 through 2005 and MJ never had a chance to respond. After that, other songs can be released.

So the planners had to deal with the issues at hand, negativity of critics and then MJ's music.

The problem on their hands was a powerful starter song. Breaking News did it, but they lacked a fully produced song, so they really had to work on the demo.

The result is a produced song that leads some to question whether it's MJ's voice.

Listen to a song on the HIStory album, then listen to the same song remixed on the Blood on the Dance Floor album. On teh second album, MJ's voice sounds mixed and is only in some places but it's still him.

So for Taryll who listened the original, it's like a transition from listening to the original raw thing and then listening to the remix without a stopover at the final cut.

That's why their is this gap, but definitely MJ vocals are there.

What seems to have happened also is that the producer may have picked the "ohwhoo!" part from other MJ tracks and laid it on this song, so Tarryll cannot recall MJ saying "ohwhoo!" on this song and wonders how it all came about.

I also think people are mixing up the background vocals with MJ's voice. The people singing the chorus for the first part and most parts don't have MJ in them, even though one sounds like MJ. But MJ's strong voice is clear in these parts.

"Everybody wantin' a piece of .."
"Everybody watchin' the news for.."
"All the news today.."
"You're breaking the news"

So in four segments of the song, at the start, middle, about the end and very end, it's clearly MJ's voice. The rest is mostly background voice and instrumentation.


Also what i can understand from Tarryll's point of view is that he's used to hearing more lyrics in a song by Michael.
But as i said earlier, the producers may have chosen to substitute most of these with background voacals because Michael had not recorded his final take that would sound well in a chorus when synched with other background vocals for the part.

They should have tried to explained to Tarryl their production decisions rather than telling him a series of lies which just made matters worse and left him more suspicious.

But it's better produced than releasing a quality similar to "This is it" song which sounded so 80's, hollow and like a demo.

you don't think that Taryll was ever in a room with Michael and heard him sing, close up, personal and live, and know his uncle's voice, from that, alone?
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

Well I'm sitting on the fence with this one for now until some proof comes from either camp.I like the song but what Michael vocals there are , even it it's part or whole (I'm probably going with part here) has been overproduced so us & the family are doubting that it is Michael on the tracks.Hopefully the family & us can decide which tracks are Michael on the new album & just buy those off iTunes & boycott the rest of the tracks if that would make people more comfortable.
 
Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

NOT MICHAEL
It's too obvious
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

When Michael says his own name, there is a distinct sound he makes with the 'cks' part of the word. Almost like "Michael Jachson". Here it is, clear as day, "ack".
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

More from Teddy Riley's twitter:

6-8 months on invincible...all of these projects in the pass 20 yrs. Cont.

1 minute ago via Twitter for Android .I've worked with MJ 4 times...we spent 1 yr 2, months together working on dangerous, 6 months on history, 2 months on Adam family...Cont.

4 minutes ago via Twitter for Android .The vocals I was given to me from the Cascios was all I had to work with. I can't and no one can prove anything but MJ...Cont.

8 minutes ago via Twitter for Android .These issue about MJ vocals not being real came into par. The vocal yes I feel they are MJ vox...they are very processed...Cont.

It seems there is more coming from him..
 
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