BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion [Closed] please cont. discussion in BAD25 Announcement thread

[T.N.A.]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I want the Bad Tour 1988.

 

[AlwaysThere]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

The cover art for the album ??! (Chicago 1945 !!!)

"Chicago 1945," "Hot Fever (Demo)," "The Price of Fame" and "Don't Be Messin' Around?" If this is legit, the Estate is really making some progress with this release.

I hope so, as it has Hot fever which I believe is the demo of The way you make me feel and the price of fame too. + a DVD possibly with all the short films, we will have to wait and see.

Yup, "Hot Fever" is the '85 demo of TWYMMF Really hoping this cover is legit.

If the Estate made the following the release set list, I would love them forever.

Disc 1
Bad
The Way You Make Me Feel
Speed Demon
Liberian Girl
Just Good Friends
Another Part of Me
Man in the Mirror
I Just Can't Stop Loving You
Dirty Diana
Smooth Criminal
Leave Me Alone
Chicago 1945 (Original 'Smooth Criminal' Demo from 1986)
Hot Fever (Original 'The Way You Make Me Feel' Demo from 1985)
The Price of Fame (Unreleased Track from Original 'Bad' Sessions)
Don't Be Messin' Around (Unreleased Track from Original 'Bad' Sessions)

Disc 2
Spike Lee's 'Bad 25' Documentary (hopefully includes studio footage and interviews)
All 'Bad' album music videos

Deluxe Edition Disc 2
Spike Lee's 'Bad 25' Documentary
Bad World Tour - Live in Wembley 1988

I'm also hoping they make some cool little "bundle packs" with the deluxe edition and some cool little items (maybe a 'Bad 25' book, similar to the one they made for 'Thriller 25').

But, then again, this is just a pipe dream.

 

[Billyjeanplxiv]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

Looks real, if so. I approve. the Cover looks sweet, and Chicago 1945, Hot fever (demo) and The Price of Fame. Interesting. it makes me wanna buy it.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I wanna BAD cd to be a double album CD the way Mike wished it back then. I really have hard time to accept they can't find more MJ's unreleased stuff.

+ a bonus CD with further unreleased stuff.

Very simple:

CD1 BAD album + bonus tracks

CD2 Full of unreleased songs

CD3 Full of unreleased songs

no interviews, no nothing, just MJ's damn music.

 

[Hess]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I SO HOPE THAT COVER IS REAL!!

Chicago 1945 (Original 'Smooth Criminal' Demo from 1986)
Hot Fever (Original 'The Way You Make Me Feel' Demo from 1985)
The Price of Fame (Unreleased Track from Original 'Bad' Sessions)
Don't Be Messin' Around (Unreleased Track from Original 'Bad' Sessions)

That would be GREAT!!!!

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I wonder if Mike recorded the song Bumper Snippet in full So far I've only heard a snippet, but never a bumper.

 

[tristan]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

al capone is the demo of smooth criminal not chicago

 

[T.N.A.]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I wanna BAD cd to be a double album CD the way Mike wished it back then. I really have hard time to accept they can't find more MJ's unreleased stuff.

Hell yeah!

Just a handful of unreleased songs? Come on Estate, seriously? What are you going to do with all those demos and unreleased tracks from the Bad sessions? Make a new instrumental and release them on a new posthumous album (see the shitty Behind The Mask)? Come on, release them on the anniversary edition of the album they were recorded for!

 

[KatMJ]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I wanted to reply with the exact same meme!:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

 

[Billyjeanplxiv]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

MAYBE, there isnt thast much to work with guys. Sure Bad may have been intended to be 30 songs at first....but how many of that is just an idea, lyrics, maybe a snippets sized recording, or just music. It would be interesting to hear no doubt, but in terms of releasable quality songs. I believe they have less than 40 including all leaked songs. excluding Cascio's remaining 9 if they are real.

 

[Arklove]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I wanna BAD cd to be a double album CD the way Mike wished it back then. I really have hard time to accept they can't find more MJ's unreleased stuff.

+ a bonus CD with further unreleased stuff.

Very simple:

CD1 BAD album + bonus tracks

CD2 Full of unreleased songs

CD3 Full of unreleased songs

no interviews, no nothing, just MJ's damn music.

CD 2&3 full of unreleased UNTOUCHED songs...Just leave them alone! lol I wanna hear MJ's vision and no one else's...

It's almost like a 'careful what you wish for' type of situation....We want unreleased stuff, but personally I don't want them to take that and run with it and make it their own realization...

There may be a lot of unreleased stuff but how much of that can actually be used? I hope they don't finish any songs off unless it's just minor tweaks here and there...I don't want MJ's magic core to be lost in the midst of that...

I just hope they learn from the first time *fingers crossed*

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

MAYBE, there isnt thast much to work with guys. Sure Bad may have been intended to be 30 songs at first....but how many of that is just an idea, lyrics, maybe a snippets sized recording, or just music. It would be interesting to hear no doubt, but in terms of releasable quality songs. I believe they have less than 40 including all leaked songs. excluding Cascio's remaining 9 if they are real.

According to Quincy Jones there were 66 songs, finished in some shape or another. I'd really like them to release all of those 66, no matter in what state they are. But as Arklove said it, untouched.

CD 2&3 full of unreleased UNTOUCHED songs...Just leave them alone! lol I wanna hear MJ's vision and no one else's...

Shut up.

 

[Pentum]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I don't think they would release that many unreleased songs. They would want to keep as much as possible for future releases to milk.

For this BAD 25 album, I bet we'll get 3 or 4 unreleased songs excluding DBMA .

 

[Arklove]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I don't think they would release that many unreleased songs. They would want to keep as much as possible for future releases to milk.

For this BAD 25 album, I bet we'll get 3 or 4 unreleased songs excluding DBMA .

3 or 4 is realistic...I'd be happy with that....It's really very easy...

Leave them be...save some money on producers

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I hope they keep Teddy away from BAD 25, he'd be able to cut MJ's voice out and put his own bridge

MJ's bridge:

Teddy's bridge:

 

[Arklove]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I hope they keep Teddy away from BAD 25, he'd be able to cut MJ's voice out and put his own bridge

MJ's bridge:

Teddy's bridge:

:rofl:

SO true....!

The thing is...I've always noticed, ever since I was young, that Michael's bridges are so unique....I think a lot of artists don't put a lot of thought and creativity in their bridges, but Michael's were always so different....I always looked forward to his bridges....Escape is one of them I just absolutely love...Same with If You Don't Love Me....Speed Demon....just off the top of my head...

So when someone like Teddy comes in and messes it up, it's REALLY noticeable....lol....Just so sad...

 

[T.N.A.]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

There may be a lot of unreleased stuff but how much of that can actually be used?

Used for what? New posthumous albums? How exactly are they gonna release some 25 year demos on a new posthumous album? It's only logical that they release this kind of stuff on anniversary editions of the album they were recorded for but never finished...

Another way of releasing that kind of stuff would be an 'anthology' type boxset, but that's obviously not gonna happen... at all, maybe...

See? That's the beauty of anniversary editions of albums. They get put out stuff they can't really work with without even spending that much money, if any at all.

It's like: Find a demo from the session, put it with all the other demos you can find and release them on a separate disc or discs for that anniversary album, very easy!

Cuz obviously, you can't just re-release the exact same album, with nothing new. Why would people buy that since they probably already have it. Put out new stuff, duh!

Come on Estate, do this right !

 

[Arklove]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

Used for what? New posthumous albums? How exactly are they gonna release some 25 year demos on a new posthumous album? It's only logical that they release this kind of stuff on anniversary editions of the album they were recorded for but never finished...

I mean releasable as in enough vocals

If they wanna release them, and there aren't enough vocals...DON'T fill them in ...leave them untouched...

 

[T.N.A.]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I mean releasable as in enough vocals

If they wanna release them, and there aren't enough vocals...DON'T fill them in ...leave them untouched...

Oh yeah, true. Doesn't matter, they can even something like Michael whistling to some beat and I'd still buy it.

I mean, why mess with that? Like I said, they can't release 'that' kind of stuff anyway so you might as well just put it there on the album and I'm gonna buy it...

 

[thiron]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I'd be satisfied with 4 unreleased songs/demos. That would be more than on every other special edition/compilation we got (minus TUC).
I'm sure they have some more cool Bad-era songs but hold them back for future releases. In 25 years there will be Bad50. If there are no songs left, the fans in the future would go mad just as we would if there were no special songs this time. I'm just a lil' bit afraid that we will never hear all unreleased stuff, 'cause the Estate/the children will hold back some material for the future.
Who would buy a Bad50 oder Bad75 if there's nothing new on it?

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I'd be satisfied with 4 unreleased songs/demos. That would be more than on every other special edition/compilation we got (minus TUC).
I'm sure they have some more cool Bad-era songs but hold them back for future releases. In 25 years there will be Bad50. If there are no songs left, the fans in the future would go mad just as we would if there were no special songs this time. I'm just a lil' bit afraid that we will never hear all unreleased stuff, 'cause the Estate/the children will hold back some material for the future.
Who would buy a Bad50 oder Bad75 if there's nothing new on it?

Well maybe they should keep all the unreleased stuff for BAD 1000, you never know, just in case

 

[Arklove]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

Oh yeah, true. Doesn't matter, they can even something like Michael whistling to some beat and I'd still buy it.

I mean, why mess with that? Like I said, they can't release 'that' kind of stuff anyway so you might as well just put it there on the album and I'm gonna buy it...

Exactly...Just throw them on there like they did with TII album....The alternate version/demo or whatever of She's Out of My Life....or the demos of Beat It and WBSS...Stuff like that....I love listening to stuff like that...Michael giving directions, talking to himself lol...It's like a little treasure trove .... ...Just singing gibberish and I'm happy! lol...

 

[Zakk]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

this is what I expect for 'BAD 25'
original BAD album with full original versions of all songs, DBMA, Hot Fever, Chicago 1945, the price of fame.

Bad Tour 1988 Blu-Ray & DVD.

Spike Lee Docu with extra footage & interviews.

Posters, T-Shirts etc.

please do it like this Estate & Sony.

 

[thiron]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

Well maybe they should keep all the unreleased stuff for BAD 1000, you never know, just in case

I'm looking forward to Beethoven250 :upside_down:

But really, I'm quite sure Sony und the Estate as business people are planning for the future and won't release everything they got in the next few years.

 

[Zakk]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

I'm looking forward to Beethoven250 :upside_down:

But really, I'm quite sure Sony und the Estate as business people are planning for the future and won't release everything they got in the next few years.

but I want the Bad Tour 1988 this year

 

[T.N.A.]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

this is what I expect for 'BAD 25'
original BAD album with full original versions of all songs, DBMA, Hot Fever, Chicago 1945, the price of fame.

Bad Tour 1988 Blu-Ray & DVD.

Spike Lee Docu with extra footage & interviews.

Posters, T-Shirts etc.

please do it like this Estate & Sony.

For some reason I was having having a 'deja vu' feeling as I was reading this post. As if I read the exact same thing before, more than once actually, but that's just impossible, right? Anyway, strange stuff...

*sarcasm mode off*

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

For some reason I was having having a 'deja vu' feeling as I was reading this post. As if I read the exact same thing before, more than once actually, but that's just impossible, right? Anyway, strange stuff...

*sarcasm mode off*

Impossible, that's Zakk's first post ever.

 

[T.N.A.]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

Impossible, that's Zakk's first post ever.

Oh really? Well that's just really strange then...

 

[Hess]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

Give it to me sony!!

 

[Dorian]

Re: BAD 25 - 2012 - General Discussion Thread

Give it to me sony!!