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What did she say about it?
She loved it. He told me she loved it and she asked me to come to dinner the next day but we had to move in to the next city, you know.
Do you have a hero or a heroine in movies that you would really like to meet?
Well, I wanted to meet Walt Disney but he died. And I wanted to meet Charlie Chaplin but he died. There’s nobody that I would really want to meet. I’m gonna work with Steven Spielberg.
Really. Doing what?
A film. We’re going to do a film together. He’s just putting the story and ideas together gradually working on ideas. You know I did the “E.T. Storybook” album and we just finished that. He and Quincy directed the whole thing, you know.
You haven’t done any acting since The Wiz, have you?
Right.
You’re looking forward to doing some more?
Oh, yeah.
Obviously most of your time, you’re involved in making music. What else are you interested in?
I don’t know really. It’s hard to take a break… ‘cause I’m always creating stuff… songwriting… and that’s mainly what I do (laughs) and I’m interested in films and acting and that sort of thing… I don’t really involve in sports or any of that stuff…
Whereabouts do you live?
We live in the valley of California.
What’s it like there?
It’s, ah, lots of orange trees and lots of lemon trees. The whole valley used to be an orange grove so everywhere you see is orange trees. And, ah, right now (laughs) there’s some mud ‘cause it’ been raining this morning but it’s nice and clear now, there’s blue skies out… and wind.
What kind of music do you listen to?
I like all music, all music. From classical to country to pop. I love Paul McCartney’s early solo stuff a lot.
You worked with him?
Oh yeah, it was a lot of fun. He’s wonderful. Linda’s very nice too. The whole family. Could you say “Hi” to them from me from America?
You’ve been so fantastically successful, do you feel you have a lot to live up to? Would you be upset if this LP wasn’t as successful as the last?
Um, Yeah. ‘Cause I always like to improve. I don’t like to take a step backwards. But it’s a whole ‘nother economy now…
You mean people aren’t buying as many records?
Yeah. That’s no excuse though.
In the ‘70s, why do you think you became so successful?
Probably that we were doing good songs, that we were fresh and new and different and we were real young and I don’t think that there was anything else like that out there. The Osmonds, they came along but they were like a copy of what we did. I like watching them - I’m not saying they weren’t good - I enjoyed what they did.
Do you still see your brothers?
Yeah.
And you still get along?
Very well.
In the late ‘70s, you were very representative of the “disco boom”. Is that something you’d like to get away from now?
I don’t think I do represent “disco”. We were doing ballads and all kinds of stuff. I wouldn’t call “One Day In Your Life” disco or “Never Can Say Goodbye” or “Rock With You”… um… um… I just like good dance music. They can label it whatever they want but as long as it’s dance music and people like it…
What English groups do you like?
I like Adam Ant’s drums. He’s a friend of mine also.
Didn’t you swap jackets or something?
Yes (laughs). I was bugging him a long time about his jackets, yeah. (Gives a little shriek of pleasure at the memory.) Yeah, we talk over the phone a lot. I love his drums on his songs. Will you say “Hi” to him from me, too?
How did you come to meet him?
I’ve never met him. We’re phone friends. Whenever he’s here he calls me. Like he calls me from the Greek theatre. When I’m in England I call him and we talk like we’ve known each other for years but we’ve never met or seen each other eye to eye.
Wouldn’t you like to meet him?
Yeah, I would, if our schedules meet (laughs).
What do you talk about?
We talk about different musical stuff and how to record drums and the sound he got on “Ant Music”. He likes my stuff and I like his and he talks about my dancing and I talk about his dressing.
Do you have a very technical approach to your music then?
No.
An emotional one then?
Yeah, it comes straight from the heart.
What’s the track that you’ve been most pleased with?
Probably on “Thriller”, “Baby Be Mine”. Actually, I can’t answer that ‘cause I’m never really pleased, never totally satisfied. I’m a real perfectionist.
Who would you like to work with that you haven’t yet?
Streisand is an example. We’re going to be doing a duet together. We’ll be writing it together. I love her singing.
What about Paul McCartney and Rupert Bear?
We talked about it a lot but I didn’t come to a decision on working on it. Sweet character…
Who? Rupert?
Yeah. He seems so innocent and charming, like no matter what he’s OK. And, you know, I got a couple of books here for Paul on Rupert. He’s real charming, He always reminds me of Winnie the Pooh.
Do you read a lot of books?
Yeah.
You’re obviously very interested in magical things and stories?
I love fairy tales. I like fantasy a lot, science fiction, I like magic. I like to create magic. I love magic. It doesn’t matter what you do, it’s got to be magic. Something that the person hears it or sees it, they’re just totally blown away. The unexpected is what I like.
Any particular writers?
I like J.M. Barrie. Mostly the older guys who aren’t here any more. Their imagination was just out of this world. Frank Baum who did the Oz books. I love Steven Spielberg, he’s the modern day Walt Disney. I gave Steven a great book which you can’t buy in the stores. It’s like this old company that used to make these set of books called Wisdom and it’s very hard to find them, but it’s the cover story, the hard-book story of Walt Disney and I gave it to Steven. And I wrote an inscription in it and he liked it so much, he said it was the best present he’d ever gotten. He told me he reads it every night before he goes to bed. At the back of it there’s all these quotations, like things Disney has said in interviews, like words of wisdom, like three whole pages, and we were just reading them together on the aeroplane. I mean he loves it. It’s a great book.
What did you inscribe in it?
I told Steven how Disney was one of the people who inspired me the most in my music and in so many things and that I felt that nobody has ever come along since Disney has died with his imagination and to fill his shoes and he, Steven Spielberg, was the only person who had inspired me like Walt Disney had inspired me. He gave me a big hug and everything. I mean he was great, he loves it, he says it’s the best present he ever got.
So you’re good friends?
Oh yeah, I mean every word of it.
When are you going to start filming?
Probably after The Jacksons’ album which we’ll start working on in January. Sometime after that we’ll just finalise the story and start moving. He’s making an animated movie, Steven; he wants me to come up with the story for it (giggles). He told me to start thinking of ideas ‘cause he wants me to work on it and I said, great. So I’ve been thinking like crazy.
What sort of part will you play in the film he’s making with you?
Gosh, I don’t know. It’s a futuristic fantasy-type of thing but they’re still not sure of the story so I don’t know the role or anything.