Access Hollywood to show tonight, disgusting Dieter Wiesner! [THREADS MERGED]

[TSCM]

Re: Access Hollywood to show tonight, disgusting Dieter Wiesner!

NOW, also, tomorrow they supposed to reveal that Michael had a HIT LIST..PEOPLE TO KILL ??? HUH???? DIANE DIMOND AKA "DIE AND DEMON" ..... but whatever, that guy is really a stupid one....

Maureen Orth of Vanity Fair wrote about this "hit list" thing back in the early 2000s. She said Michael had cows slaughtered, bathed in their blood, and paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to cast voodoo spells on Steven Spielberg etc... These stories remain the imaginative fantasies of Bob Jones and Dieter Wiesner who, aside from their time with Michael, never really had any job or source of income other than criminal activities.

 

[Apollon]

No, I am not his lawyer - LOL

I am also not here to defend Wiesner. He just asked me if i can post here what i wrote in my first post.

I am just a Fan like you all and I know Wiesner. This here is just my personal opinion. I saw with my own eyes what he has worked on with Michael. They re-structured his career. They Kicked out the “wrong friends” and they pushed away the doctors. But everything broke down when the new accuse charge came. Wiesner was always supporting Michael. Also when Michael stopped talking to him, because the people around Michael told him lies about Wiesner and tried to keep him away. When they saw each other again in the “lawsuit case”, they hugged each other and cried. The contact came back an Wiesner visited him at the This Is It Rehearsals. But it was too late. The Bashir Documentation, The Trial, The “Bankruptcy lies” and the pressure for the concerts brought him back to the medicine and these bad doctors….

p.s.: tonight Wiesner will show a “list” from Michael. This List was made by Michael with names on it with people who was against him. I think this is good, that the public knows this names. but just my opinion.

 

[TheLastTear]

No, I am not his lawyer - LOL

It's a rhetorical question.
I didn't mean “real” lawyer.
Just, like someone who speaks for another. In order to defend him.

 

[PrincessMichaela]

If this is true, then he can (and *should*) take legal action against them. If he cares about Michael at all, then it is his responsibility to somehow "fix" it as much as possible. Because whether or not he had ill intentions (I'm still not convinced that he didn't) he did go to a tabloid tv show with information that could, in the wrong hands, be potentially harmful. Surely he knew that...considering the amount of time he spent with Michael.

 

[loveforever]

if this vulture didn't make up some crazy stories, how he can capture the public attention and get his 15mins fame. those people are so disgusting. why are they still alive? think about bashit, dd, talking trash with the innocent faces. sick, sick!

 

[StephluvsMJ]

p.s.: tonight Wiesner will show a “list” from Michael. This List was made by Michael with names on it with people who was against him. I think this is good, that the public knows this names. but just my opinion.

But they are calling this a "hit list". I hope you understand that by Wienser telling people Michael had a hit list, he really isn't trying to do much good for Michael's reputation, is he? He's already called Michael a liar. Now Michael was out to kill people? If you saw the spider bite pics you would know that it was no injection wound. The skin around the wound was black and completely dead. What's Michael injecting himself with, sulphuric acid? And why would a doctor inject a drug into his shin? It doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Autumn II]

Note: I tried to post this message yesterday, but had to wait until now for the approval of my member account.

Hello everybody

I spoke with Dieter Wiesner and he is absolutely shocked and upset about this storys. He gave a long and very positive interview to Entertainment Tonight about Michael Jackson. This Interview is now used for these tabloid storys and they take parts out of it and use it without any connection to the complete interview. He also didn’t gave the testimonial video to them.

For example he told ET about the untrue about the spider bit. It was a wound which comes from a infusion which was given from one of this unprofessional doctors. He told this story, because he wanted to make the point that for him all these weird doctors are guilty and one reason for his death. But he never said that Michael was addicted to drugs or something.

He lost his friend. He was working with him over 10 years. In the German media he was speaking positively about him. Especially after his death.

He is now in USA and stays now, because he want to try to do something agains these tabloid storys. He will also publish a statement on his official website: http://www.dieterwiesner.com/

Kind Regards

P.s. you can watch interviews in the German media with him. This maybe helps to make your own opinion about him.

TIK Interviews: http://tinyurl.com/pf7qt9
German ARD Interview: 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O9qAWTLsXM (starts 3:35)
German ARD Interview: 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ8VlV2hbFk (starts 3:00)

Whoever you may be, there is no medical procedure that I've ever heard of that would involve insertion of an IV needle into the area of the SHIN, which was where the spider-bite was located. If in the leg, IV infusions are given through a vein in the ankle. He is, by implication, saying that Michael lied about the cause of the wound. Not very nice to say that, and not very appreciated around here.

Don't know if Dieter is the origin of this embellishment or not, but I think so. It was alleged that Michael had an IV NEEDLE in his leg that pulled out and cut him. For an IV, the needle is the delivery-system for plastic tubing. The needle is then removed and the tubing left in place. It does not CUT. If he's going to tell stories about Michael, might want to do some research first, so they will at least SOUND accurate?

 

[*~MJ Loves MJ~*]

Re: Access Hollywood to show tonight, disgusting Dieter Wiesner!

You don't make an injection on the lower part of the your leg..this is a fucking joke..

Thank you! People with common sense would know this...then again, they believe a lot of what they hear. Sooo sad..

 

[Soso Deaf]

thank u VIC! lol

sorry but the needle isn't in u during an iv...it's just used to penetrate and then removed. the 'stent' is what stays....

no way to have an iv line in the shin of a grown man.

and the list? NOT michael's handwriting.have we covered it all, vic?

 

[Autumn II]

thank u VIC! lol

sorry but the needle isn't in u during an iv...it's just used to penetrate and then removed. the 'stent' is what stays....

no way to have an iv line in the shin of a grown man.

and the list? NOT michael's handwriting.have we covered it all, vic?

Soso, as usual, we are a tag-team. Thanks. Yeah, think we've covered it all? Are we DONE yet, here?

 

[rockstar]

i'm so comfused in here :thinking: what list? :thinking:

 

[TSCM]

For example he told ET about the untrue about the spider bit. It was a wound which comes from a infusion which was given from one of this unprofessional doctors. He told this story, because he wanted to make the point that for him all these weird doctors are guilty and one reason for his death. But he never said that Michael was addicted to drugs or something.

Sure. if that's what you want to believe... I choose to believe what certified doctors confirmed at the time and what other people who have been bitten by the same type of spider have substantiated.

Brown Recluse Spider Bites at Various Stages

Michael's leg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2217/spider1.jpg

Other People

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1373/spider2s.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5392/spider3o.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9695/spider4.jpg

 

[Arty]

Sure. if that's what you want to believe... I choose to believe what certified doctors confirmed at the time and what other people who have been bitten by the same type of spider have substantiated.

Brown Recluse Spider Bites at Various Stages

Michael's leg

Other People

Looks the same to me. Michael wasn´t lying!

 

[TSCM]

Here's the "hit list" that DIETER WIESNER created, not Michael...

 

[Arty]

Here's the "hit list" that DIETER WIESNER created, not Michael...

What was the purpose for the list???

 

[#1MJstan]

TSCM I must say I agree with you.. those scabs look just like Mike's..

It's amazing how MJ wasn't allowed to have insect bites or fall down in his house like other human beings.. When it happens to him and he even allows his doctor to talk about this ppl still don't believe it, they wld believe that MJ had an alien come down from Mars, suck on his leg and then push him down the stairs b4 they wld accept him being bit by this very dangerous spider. Hell it cld've been captured on tape and ppl still wldn't believe the damn spider got him...
Can't win for losing..

Um so what if MJ did have a list of ppl that either str8 up didn't like him or use to be his friend and turned on him for whatever reason..
What kills me is how all these ppl didn't like Mike,and yet couldn't keep his name out of their mouths.. I know if I don't like someone I don't give their ass a second thought.
Hell MJ didn't go around saying their damn names every chance he got, he kept their names out of his mouth, at least in public he didn't mention them.. Wasn't worth his time..

Every name on that list makes my split ends hurt.. none of them deserves to even be mentioned on this so called "hit list"

 

[TSCM]

What was the purpose for the list???

Nothing more than another way to paint Michael as something he was not and to create controversy. During the segment they make it sound as if the note was a hand-written hit list by Michael himself, they only subtly note later on that "Dieter was there as Michael dictated it." No proof of anything, just another sensational angle by Dieter Wiesner. And of course the list is nothing more than Michael's most famous detractors that anyone on the planet could've written up. But no, it's gotta be a vengeful "hit list" by Michael.

 

[bluetopez]

TSCM your point was lost already several post ago and those pics just made it worse. It actually proves MJ right and the fans even more....THANKS! LMAO!


One more thing why does this thread say Access Hollywood? It was Entertainment Tonight who had Dieter on! And The Insider had the deposition tapes! But, I understand the confusion because they all talk the same language..... SH*T!

 

[TSCM]

^ Dieter sold/told his story to multiple shows and networks including Access Hollywood and ET, likewise various shows aired the Schaffel and Wiesner deposition tapes including Insider, ET... Anyways, I think everything's pretty clear by now so I'm out!

 

[bluetopez]

The first pic of the other people shown with similar spider bites like MJ is MJ leg! LOL

That was his leg when it was healing! Maybe someone should post the whole damn pics the before and after because I seen the before and after pics.

I don't know how to post pics...sorry.

 

[Anna]

The first pic of the other people shown with similar spider bites like MJ is MJ leg! LOL

That was his leg when it was healing! Maybe someone should post the whole damn pics the before and after because I seen the before and after pics.

I don't know how to post pics...sorry.

 

[JMie]

wow, i haven't seen these photos before.... oh my god, poor Michael.

 

[jayjackson]

Leave michael jackson alone!

 

[bluetopez]

Thank You NOVA For posting the pics Case closed!

 

[rockstar]

poor Michael :boohoo:

so what does that list really means? who are the people on that list? :thinking:

 

[JMie]

poor Michael :boohoo:

so what does that list really means? who are the people on that list? :thinking:

you don't know the names on that list? those are the people who made Michael's life miserable in the last 15 years. I don't see anything wrong if he wrote their names down on a piece of paper. It's not like he was going to hire a killer.

 

[8701girl]

Note: I tried to post this message yesterday, but had to wait until now for the approval of my member account.

Hello everybody

I spoke with Dieter Wiesner and he is absolutely shocked and upset about this storys. He gave a long and very positive interview to Entertainment Tonight about Michael Jackson. This Interview is now used for these tabloid storys and they take parts out of it and use it without any connection to the complete interview. He also didn’t gave the testimonial video to them.

For example he told ET about the untrue about the spider bit. It was a wound which comes from a infusion which was given from one of this unprofessional doctors. He told this story, because he wanted to make the point that for him all these weird doctors are guilty and one reason for his death. But he never said that Michael was addicted to drugs or something.

He lost his friend. He was working with him over 10 years. In the German media he was speaking positively about him. Especially after his death.

He is now in USA and stays now, because he want to try to do something agains these tabloid storys. He will also publish a statement on his official website: http://www.dieterwiesner.com/

Kind Regards

P.s. you can watch interviews in the German media with him. This maybe helps to make your own opinion about him.

TIK Interviews: http://tinyurl.com/pf7qt9
German ARD Interview: 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O9qAWTLsXM (starts 3:35)
German ARD Interview: 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ8VlV2hbFk (starts 3:00)

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Oh pleaseeee I saw everything he said ......so dont come here and start sayin his words were "twisted" GIVE ME A BREAK!

 

[Autumn II]

you don't know the names on that list? those are the people who made Michael's life miserable in the last 15 years. I don't see anything wrong if he wrote their names down on a piece of paper. It's not like he was going to hire a killer.

Right. And any fan could have written a similar list. Or anyone who knew Michael.

 

[rockstar]

you don't know the names on that list? those are the people who made Michael's life miserable in the last 15 years. I don't see anything wrong if he wrote their names down on a piece of paper. It's not like he was going to hire a killer.

:lol: :lol:

 

[8701girl]

And also appernately lisa marie's name was on there tooo...
So what they are trying to say that mike ... was trying to "get bck at her" or somethin?