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The Jacksons Should Just Put Out their Unreleased Material

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I Mean why get yourself info bad business deals and scams that could get you into lawsuits. they need to make amends with the Estate (since they need their permission to use anything involving MJ) and talk with Motown & CBS Records so they can come out with genuine projects they can bring in some good cash to split among themselves

For Example
release Outakes from the 1976-1984 Jackson albums
the Triumph Tour concert at the La froum was recorded for home Release
Some Of the Victory tour shows were recorded for laserdiscs
release deluxe editions of the Jacksons albums
Have CBS Records Release The Jacksons variety Show On Dvd

Unreleased songs:
Not a complete list but here's one

The Jacksons
Holiday Inn (written by Michael in 1976)


Goin' Places
Ode To Sorrow (written by Michael in 1977, possibly for Goin' Places)


Destiny
That Girl
Slipped Away


Triumph
That Girl (re-recorded for Triumph)
Slipped Away (Alternate Version)
Why Can't I Be (written by Michael possibly for Triumph, has similar chord progression as The Girl Is Mine)
You Told Me Your Lovin' (originally written by Michael, re-written by Randy in 1979)
Got To Find A Way Somehow (written by Michael for either Off The Wall or Triumph)
Under Your Skin (written by Michael in 1979 for either Off The Wall or Triumph)
You Not Me (written by Michael in 1979 for either Off The Wall or Triumph, would later become This Had To Be for The Brothers Johnson)

Victory
Victory (written by Michael and Freddie Mercury)
There Must Be More To Life Than This
Doing Dirty (writen by Michael and Marlon)
Just Feel It (written by Michael)
Power (written by Jackie)
Bad Company (written by Tito Jackson)
Nona (written by Jackie)
Still In Love With You (I think this was written by Randy)
Tender (written by Jackie )
Buffalo Bill
Where Do I Stand (written by Marlon)
Attitude

2300 Jackson Street
Color Of Love (written by Randy, Michael not involved)




JACKSON 5IVE (by no means is this complete, just giving some examples)
7 Rooms Of Gloom (cover of the Four Tops song)
A Place In The Sun (cover of the Stevie Wonder song)
A Pretty Face Is/Pretty Faces (from the shelved Stevie Wonder produced album)
After The Storm
Ain't Too Proud To Beg
Ave Maria
Baby I Need Your Lovin
Baby It's Love (rumored duet with Diana Ross)
For The Rest Of My Life (rumored duet with Diana Ross)
Back In My Arms (cover of Supremes song)
Be My Girl
Blowin' In The Wind (cover of Bob Dylan song)
Can I Get A Witness (cover of Marvin Gaye's song)
Christmas Everyday
Cloud Nine (cover of Temptaions song)
Come And Get It
Daydreamer (written by The Jackson 5, used in the 1972 TV special, The Jackson 5 Show)
Do You Love Me (cover of Contours song)
God Rest Ye Merry Christmas
Heaven Help Us All (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
I'm Your Sunny Boy (cover of Supremes song)
Fingertips (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
For Once In My Life (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
How Sweet It Is To Be Loved By You (cover of Marvin Gaye song)
I Can't Help Myself(Sugar Pie Honey Bunch) (cover of Four Tops song)
I Got A Feeling (cover of Four Tops song)
If You Really Love Me (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
If I Can't (Nobody Can)
Love Go Away
No News Is Good News
Ooh Baby Baby (cover of Miracles song)
Where Did Our Love Go (cover of Supremes song)


For the 1976-1977 sessions, not much is really known. The brothers have unreleased tracks from those and the Destiny and Triumph sessions and Howard Mann has possessions of the audio tracks that were used on The Jacksons TV show as well as songs demos the brothers submitted to other artists when Joe was trying to launch Jackson Records in the mid 80s
*Special Notes* thanks to Jay wonder AKA bboy87 for provided the list of unreleased material
 
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I think the soings written by MJ, MJ had ownership of and the family would not be able to release them without permission.

I don't know eager the Estate, Motown or CBS would be to enter into an agreement with the family members. But, I guess they could try.
 
ginvid said:
I think the soings written by MJ, MJ had ownership of and the family would not be able to release them without permission.

I don't know eager the Estate, Motown or CBS would be to enter into an agreement with the family members. But, I guess they could try.
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oh yeah you're right, wait MJ's own the group master recordings too? if so tough luck, maybe that's why all the shady deals are happening
 
You know, if they are able to record their songs with Michael's voice on it, I would definitely buy them. Maybe they could tweek the instrumentation or something to make it more current. However, as Ginviv said we don't know who own the rights, and if they could have done it before, maybe they would. Joe might have thought of this idea. Didn't Motown retain the name? Maybe Motown has control of more rights as well.
 
Petrarose said:
You know, if they are able to record their songs with Michael's voice on it, I would definitely buy them. Maybe they could tweek the instrumentation or something to make it more current. However, as Ginviv said we don't know who own the rights, and if they could have done it before, maybe they would. Joe might have thought of this idea. Didn't Motown retain the name? Maybe Motown has control of more rights as well.
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Yes.... BUT I think we should not give ideas to the Jackson family. :unsure: You know... :fear:
 
billyworld99 said:
I Mean why get yourself info bad business deals and scams that could get you into lawsuits. they need to make amends with the Estate (since they need their permission to use anything involving MJ) and talk with Motown & CBS Records so they can come out with genuine projects they can bring in some good cash to split among themselves

For Example
release Outakes from the 1976-1984 Jackson albums
the Triumph Tour concert at the La froum was recorded for home Release
Some Of the Victory tour shows were recorded for laserdiscs
release deluxe editions of the Jacksons albums
Have CBS Records Release The Jacksons variety Show On Dvd

Unreleased songs:
Not a complete list but here's one

The Jacksons
Holiday Inn (written by Michael in 1976)


Goin' Places
Ode To Sorrow (written by Michael in 1977, possibly for Goin' Places)


Destiny
That Girl
Slipped Away


Triumph
That Girl (re-recorded for Triumph)
Slipped Away (Alternate Version)
Why Can't I Be (written by Michael possibly for Triumph, has similar chord progression as The Girl Is Mine)
You Told Me Your Lovin' (originally written by Michael, re-written by Randy in 1979)
Got To Find A Way Somehow (written by Michael for either Off The Wall or Triumph)
Under Your Skin (written by Michael in 1979 for either Off The Wall or Triumph)
You Not Me (written by Michael in 1979 for either Off The Wall or Triumph, would later become This Had To Be for The Brothers Johnson)

Victory
Victory (written by Michael and Freddie Mercury)
There Must Be More To Life Than This
Doing Dirty (writen by Michael and Marlon)
Just Feel It (written by Michael)
Power (written by Jackie)
Bad Company (written by Tito Jackson)
Nona (written by Jackie)
Still In Love With You (I think this was written by Randy)
Tender (written by Jackie )
Buffalo Bill
Where Do I Stand (written by Marlon)
Attitude

2300 Jackson Street
Color Of Love (written by Randy, Michael not involved)




JACKSON 5IVE (by no means is this complete, just giving some examples)
7 Rooms Of Gloom (cover of the Four Tops song)
A Place In The Sun (cover of the Stevie Wonder song)
A Pretty Face Is/Pretty Faces (from the shelved Stevie Wonder produced album)
After The Storm
Ain't Too Proud To Beg
Ave Maria
Baby I Need Your Lovin
Baby It's Love (rumored duet with Diana Ross)
For The Rest Of My Life (rumored duet with Diana Ross)
Back In My Arms (cover of Supremes song)
Be My Girl
Blowin' In The Wind (cover of Bob Dylan song)
Can I Get A Witness (cover of Marvin Gaye's song)
Christmas Everyday
Cloud Nine (cover of Temptaions song)
Come And Get It
Daydreamer (written by The Jackson 5, used in the 1972 TV special, The Jackson 5 Show)
Do You Love Me (cover of Contours song)
God Rest Ye Merry Christmas
Heaven Help Us All (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
I'm Your Sunny Boy (cover of Supremes song)
Fingertips (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
For Once In My Life (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
How Sweet It Is To Be Loved By You (cover of Marvin Gaye song)
I Can't Help Myself(Sugar Pie Honey Bunch) (cover of Four Tops song)
I Got A Feeling (cover of Four Tops song)
If You Really Love Me (cover of Stevie Wonder song)
If I Can't (Nobody Can)
Love Go Away
No News Is Good News
Ooh Baby Baby (cover of Miracles song)
Where Did Our Love Go (cover of Supremes song)


For the 1976-1977 sessions, not much is really known. The brothers have unreleased tracks from those and the Destiny and Triumph sessions and Howard Mann has possessions of the audio tracks that were used on The Jacksons TV show as well as songs demos the brothers submitted to other artists when Joe was trying to launch Jackson Records in the mid 80s
*Special Notes* thanks to Jay wonder AKA bboy87 for provided the list of unreleased material
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I'm Jaywonder/Bboy87. I only use "mj_brainiac" here on MJJC :)
The brothers most likely own the ownership rights or partial rights to the 1976-84 catalog's master recordings along with the Michael Jackson Estate or will starting next year (ownership rights revert back to the artists after 30-35 years after the release of the album). Until the time comes, the ownership of The Jacksons, Goin' Places, Destiny, Triumph, The Jacksons Live!, and Victory is owned by Sony (the rights to "The Jacksons" LP likely reverts back to them next year since the 35 year period will be up)

The issue of unreleased material is a bit different, since Michael had rights to it also and they can't really use his likeness without the permission of his estate, and it can't be released on another label since Sony may own rights to the vault material also. They would have to work out a deal with the Estate and Sony to do that. It's the reason why I want the brothers and the MJ estate to put aside their differences so they can re-release all the albums and possibly live footage
 
Also, with the Motown material, the brothers don't have ANY rights to it. Michael, Jackie, Tito, and Marlon surrendered the rights to the material back in 1980 if I recall. Motown/Universal can do whatever they want with the 1969-75 material. Remember the scene J5 reality show where Jackie and Marlon went into Amoeba Music in Los Angeles and laughed about with all the albums and compilations that Motown has released, they could have a whole section in the store LOL
 
Yeah its all about ownership.which i doubt they have for most of the songs
 
elusive moonwalker said:
Yeah its all about ownership.which i doubt they have for most of the songs
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From what I know, for Sony/Legacy to release reissues of the 1976-89 catalog, they'd have to get permission from all the brothers and Michael's estate, which is a feat in itself LOL

it terms of publishing, they do own the songs. They could get ownership of the master tapes to "The Jacksons", "Goin' Places", and "Destiny" next year

Jackson written songs on the 1976-84 albums:
Blues Away (Michael)
Style of Life (Tito and Michael)

Different Kind Of Lady (Jackie, Tito, Marlon, Michael, Randy)

Do What You Wanna (Jackie, Tito, Marlon, Michael, Randy)
Push Me Away (Jackie, Tito, Marlon, Michael, Randy)
Things I Do For You (Jackie, Tito, Marlon, Michael, Randy)
Destiny (Jackie, Tito, Marlon, Michael, Randy)
Bless His Soul (Jackie, Tito, Marlon, Michael, Randy)
Shake Your Body (Randy And Michael)
All Night Dancing (Randy and Michael)
That's What You Get (Randy and Michael)

Can You Feel It (Jackie and Michael)
Lovely One (Michael and Randy)
Your Ways (Jackie)
Everybody (Michael, Tito, and Mike McKinney)
Heartbreak Hotel (Michael)
Time Waits For No One (Randy and Jackie)
Walk Right Now (Randy, Michael, and Jackie)
Give It Up (Michael and Randy)
Wondering Who (Jackie and Randy)

Torture (Jackie and Kathy Wakefield)
Wait (Jackie and David Paich)
One More Chance (Randy)
Be Not Always (Michael and Marlon)
State Of Shock (Michael and Randy Hansen/Freddie Mercury)
We Can Change The World (Tito and Wayne Arnold)
The Hurt (Michael,Randy, David Paich, and Steve Porcaro)
Body (Marlon)


If they come to an agreement and work together, then FULL reissues with outtakes, 12' mixes, and alternate mixes could happen)
 
It does not seem as though they are interested in this venture.
 
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