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To All The Fans:A group of us are gathering through social media to create a Fanmade documentary that puts to rest all of the rumors and slander that circulates Michael on a daily basis. We cannot do it alone. Our fan base is one of the largest, most influential groups in the world. If we do this together, we can finally set things right.

What We Are Looking For: Blurbs/videos of how Michael has inspired you and why you are a fan, Encounters with Michael and what he was like as a person, Evidence that counters any media slander that has been brought to the forefront, Proof of Innocence through statements of those involved, and anything else that may be of use.

If you have anything to contribute, please reply to this thread.

For further information, contact @xffthewall on Twitter of follow the account @mjjdocumentary
 
I think this is potentially a fantastic idea and support the idea 100% but please rely on established facts or at least the most convincing arguments from the trial papers.

During the trial itself there were so many false, malicious reports in the press (and some have been repeated often since) that you couldn't possibly tackle them all head on but I guess there are a few key topics that people remember very well. Perhaps focus on those??

For example, don't mention the JC confession that he lied about the 93 allegations. I don't believe that ever happened and there's no proof either. There is plenty of evidence in the trial documentation that the allegations don't stack up without resorting to rumour. Rumour will only devalue your documentary.

Please address the rumours that appeared on Radaronline a few years ago about illegal child images being found at Neverland.
Those are clearly false. MJ was never charged with a crime of posessing illegal images of children. In 2004 when the false reports first appeared, the Judge allowed T Mez to confirm that none were found in an official statement. One of the images of "child cruelty" posted in the article was confirmed to have been taken years after the Neverland raid by the artist who took it. Images posted by RadarOnline had been deliberately edited to look incriminating, for example placing black boxes over the boys' shorts area with the intention that it look as though they could be completed naked in the original images. They weren't. It's a good chance to cover the fact only material featuring adults was found. Most of it was hetero. It's also a good segue to cover the fact Arvizo was caught in a lie on the stand when the magazine he identified and confirmed he saw at Neverland was in fact printed AFTER he last visited the property!

There are so many issues to cover but the one of child material is key.


Also, other issues to cover:

- The Chandler blackmail/extortion attempt. Include the well known recording of Evan Chandler.
- The Chandler description of MJ's man-parts and the false rumours that it was accurate. Could include the drawing itself as conclusive proof that it was not accurate, plus the undisputable point that it was NEVER entered into evidence. If it was accurate they would have used it!
- The settlement document that specifically stated it DID NOT prevent Chandlers from cooperating in police investigation and trial. Show key pages on screen with highlighted text. I.e. MJ's settlement was not a "pay-off". It didn't silence anybody. It never intended to. It was a tactical move to prevent exposing MJ's defense in a civil trial ahead of the criminal trial (that never happened - see below).
- The DA presented the Chandler Case to TWO separate grand juries and neither one decided the case was credible enough to go to trial. Again, the settlement DID NOT stop MJ going to trial - TWO GRAND JURIES did!

- The Arvizos deliberately using their contacts to gain access to MJ, Janet contacting numerous legal experts about going after MJ BEFORE she (or anyone in her family) ever met him, Chris Tucker's warning to MJ that he was being set up.
- The changing Arvizo timeline. They Kept moving the dates to try to cope with strong evidence from MJ's side that it was just not credible!
- Jesus juice - MJ did not get kids drunk. the one occasion Arvizo was known to have been drunk was when MJ was in Germany (I think) and Arvizo broke into his cellar and got himself drunk. Testimony from witnesses that said MJ called alcohol Jesus Juice and drunk from cans because he DID NOT want to encourage drinking infront of children!
- The Arvizo family legal history (i.e. J C Penney trial).
- Janet's conviction (after the trial).
 
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The child porn story and the FBI files need to be thoroughly debunked. The damage those stories did to Michael's reputation is not to be underestimated (like the Estate did).

My advice would be to go knee deep into all the bull, don't be afraid to touch on certain things, because it can all be exposed.
 
ChrisC said:
The child porn story and the FBI files need to be thoroughly debunked. The damage those stories did to Michael's reputation is not to be underestimated (like the Estate did).

My advice would be to go knee deep into all the bull, don't be afraid to touch on certain things, because it can all be exposed.
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Yes I forgot about the "FBI files"!

The story about the 'evidence' the FBI supposedly had in their files on MJ were damaging.
It's actually an interesting story about how that information came to be in the FBI's posession and what the context of the information is.

One thing is for sure (and it's a point most believers of the FBI stories fail to acknowledge) is if the FBI genuinely possessed incriminating evidence against MJ going back as far as the 80s then they would certainly have used it against him, even before the Chandler allegations. They'd have arrested him in the 80s. To think otherwise is beyond stupid. Similarly, if they had good evidence in 93 there would have been a trial and they'd have used it. Same for the 05 trial.
 
MJTruth said:
Yes I forgot about the "FBI files"!

The story about the 'evidence' the FBI supposedly had in their files on MJ were damaging.
It's actually an interesting story about how that information came to be in the FBI's posession and what the context of the information is.

One thing is for sure (and it's a point most believers of the FBI stories fail to acknowledge) is if the FBI genuinely possessed incriminating evidence against MJ going back as far as the 80s then they would certainly have used it against him, even before the Chandler allegations. They'd have arrested him in the 80s. To think otherwise is beyond stupid. Similarly, if they had good evidence in 93 there would have been a trial and they'd have used it. Same for the 05 trial.
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Unfortunately the story was picked up by a LOT of 'reputable' agencies and presented in a way that appeared credible on the surface. It's the sort of narrative that has led to many people considering Michael Jackson as a serial sex offender without question now.

They can be debunked easily, and some articles quietly came after refuting them. Doesn't go anywhere near undoing the damage though.
 
ChrisC said:
Unfortunately the story was picked up by a LOT of 'reputable' agencies and presented in a way that appeared credible on the surface. It's the sort of narrative that has led to many people considering Michael Jackson as a serial sex offender without question now.

They can be debunked easily, and some articles quietly came after refuting them. Doesn't go anywhere near undoing the damage though.
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Yes I know it's outrageous. that's why we need a good documentary to air internationally to expose all this stuff but no professional TV / film company will go near it. Even a series of news articles on a reputable site would be great but again no reputable news agency will approach that subject with a barge pole.

After decades of misreporting nobody is willing to expose the truth. Many current reporters grew up reading the stories from 93 onward and may themselves havebeen suckered into believing the lies.

When I point out the scale of the misreporting by the press people look me like I'm some crazy loon conspiracy theorist. It doesn't help that Trump has been banging on about 'fake news' all while blatantly lying himself. He had a valid point about press reporting but ruined his own argument and discredited himself big time. Nobody will take him seriously. Wasted opportunity for him to make a difference.
 
We could most of the info from that book ''michael jackson the fbi found nothing''
 
Just when we were talking about a documentary exposing the lies, a credible one shows up giving a platform to them.

Taking a lot right now to see past this.
 
3 books (redemption, conspiracy, and the fbi book..

All the info needed right there, well of course the court transcripts and/or the e! Reanactment show.

Side note does anyone have the reeanactment shown in full? That would be a thing to re share with the public since it's often overlooked and one of the very few things you cant find online seemingly. My wife never saw it and it would help squash haters.
 
Great idea but putting it together is another thing.

I hope it works and I agree as said above about sticking to facts....that is more important to put on film than any fan saying how they were inspired my MJ or how much they thought he was a great person.
 
the reactment show is a great idea i think it can found on youtube
 
dancingthedream said:
To All The Fans:A group of us are gathering through social media to create a Fanmade documentary that puts to rest all of the rumors and slander that circulates Michael on a daily basis. We cannot do it alone. Our fan base is one of the largest, most influential groups in the world. If we do this together, we can finally set things right.

What We Are Looking For: Blurbs/videos of how Michael has inspired you and why you are a fan, Encounters with Michael and what he was like as a person, Evidence that counters any media slander that has been brought to the forefront, Proof of Innocence through statements of those involved, and anything else that may be of use.

If you have anything to contribute, please reply to this thread.

For further information, contact @xffthewall on Twitter of follow the account @mjjdocumentary
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Is this separate to the one that Taj Jackson is talking about doing? Or is your fan group going to work with Taj on his project? I believe he's going to set up a crowd funding campaign for it.
 
8701girl said:
the estate dont care period
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That is not true. The Estate has to respond according to what is allowed, under the current laws.

There is no provision to sue anyone for slander or libel of a deceased person in the United States.

All the Estate can do is express outrage and state the actual facts, just as the fans do.
 
Mikky Dee said:
That is not true. The Estate has to respond according to what is allowed, under the current laws.

There is no provision to sue anyone for slander or libel of a deceased person in the United States.

All the Estate can do is express outrage and state the actual facts, just as the fans do.
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did they state the facts on the statement ?
 
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