Michael Jackson and Classical Music Fun

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O.K., for you peeps who know classical music, here are some questions for you.
  1. The classical music introduction to "Hold My Hand" is this from an identifiable classical music piece?
  2. If so, what is the name and composer of the classical music introduction to "Hold My Hand"?
  3. Can you identify some of the other classical music pieces Michael Jackson has used in his music?
I appreciate classical music; but I don't know one piece or composer from the another. So your help would be most appreciated.
Thanks, in advance. :hippy:
 
It's been said that Michael himself as composed his own pieces of classical music.
 
He wanted to make a classic album right?
 
He wanted to make a classic album right?

Yes, MJ had already written the music and a composer spoke of this. He has all MJ's pieces and he needs to get them made. He says they are very childlike and reminiscent of Tchaikovsky's nutcracker suite etc.
 
Yes, MJ had already written the music and a composer spoke of this. He has all MJ's pieces and he needs to get them made. He says they are very childlike and reminiscent of Tchaikovsky's nutcracker suite etc.


Yup............. David Michael Frank (composer) !


:yes:
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That would be great.

MJ was a genius.
 
Yes, MJ had already written the music and a composer spoke of this. He has all MJ's pieces and he needs to get them made. He says they are very childlike and reminiscent of Tchaikovsky's nutcracker suite etc.

That would be so amazing to hear!
 
CherubimII;3082096 said:
O.K., for you peeps who know classical music, here are some questions for you.
  1. The classical music introduction to "Hold My Hand" is this from an identifiable classical music piece?
  2. If so, what is the name and composer of the classical music introduction to "Hold My Hand"?
  3. Can you identify some of the other classical music pieces Michael Jackson has used in his music?
I appreciate classical music; but I don't know one piece or composer from the another. So your help would be most appreciated.
Thanks, in advance. :hippy:

I'm trying to recall a few pieces here.

He used Carl Orff's "O Fortuna" in the teaser "Brace Yourself" at the beginning of the Dangerous World Tour (it's not on the DVD Live in Bucharest, but it was on the TV version) I do think it's on Dangerous - The Short Films and Video Greatest Hits – HIStory.

'O Fortuna' (or, more exact:"Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi")

Carl Orff is a German composer who set a series of 24 rather "ancient" (and very life affirming, shall we say :D) poems to music. It's a cantata basically by the name of "Carmina Burana". Set to music 1935/1936.

There's a much longer history on the significance of these poems, if you feel like reading up on it. Some of the texts are fascinating from a spiritual viewpoint- the wheel of life, karma, getting of that wheel. Lots of "wine and woman" feel to many pieces. :cheeky:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmina_Burana

We had to analyze that thing for months on end in school, that's why it stuck. Definitely an impressive piece of music- thank God he used it before it was totally overused in the late 90ies.

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Michael loved to sample...
"Little Susie" is good portrayal of that.

Another good example is "Pie Jesu" from the Requiem by the French composer Maurice Duruflé. It's basically a funeral mass.
Info on Duruflé
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Duruflé

and info on the Requiem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requiem_(Duruflé)

Many requiems have a basic, recognizable structure and composers add/omit whatever they are trying to achieve. If you're firm in the Latin texts of the Catholic Mass, you know the words to any Requiem, no matter what composer.

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Michael did something very brilliant with "Sunrise-Sunset" by Jerry Bock. Formed Little Susie out of that. He basically did what countless composers did before him- take a theme, a motive and write a variation on it. From Joseph Haydn and Mozart to Brahms- all composers used to write variations on particular motives. That practice takes a lot- the modern day version is simply sampling, without much writing.
Variations are themes that are being exercised through key changes, rhythmic changes, etc.
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Mr. Bock himself only passed over a few short days ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Bock
 
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Tchaikovsky

Michael said once ,he would create music that will never die like Tchaikovsky - The Nutcracker.
 
analogue;3082126 said:
It's been said that Michael himself as composed his own pieces of classical music.

Yes, here's a wonderful article on that.

JULY 10, 2009

More details on instrumental album Michael Jackson started before his death, and his love of classical music
TV and film composer and conductor David Michael Frank may have been one of the last persons to collaborate with Michael Jackson on an artistic project. The pop singer&#8217;s untimely death left that project in an uncertain state. Initial reports suggested that Jackson planned to do an album of &#8220;classical music&#8221; he had written; the pieces were to be orchestrated by Frank. Actually, Frank says, the pieces were closer to film music and would have gone into an all-instrumental album had Jackson lived. The Baltimore-born Frank, interviewed by phone in California, gives an account here of his experience with the King of Pop:

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PHOTO OF DAVID MICHAEL FRANK COURTESY OF THE COMPOSER

Four or five months ago, I received a call from Michael Jackson&#8217;s longtime personal recording engineer, Michael Prince, who told me Michael was looking for someone to arrange some music for orchestra. I thought it was going to be for the tour he was going to do. For the next month or two, he would call, saying, &#8216;Michael Jackson says he&#8217;s going to call you.&#8217;

At the end of April, another Michael, Michael Jackson&#8217;s personal assistant, called me and asked me to come the next day at 10 a.m. and asked me the make and model of my car. I drove to the Holmby Hills home. I drove up to the front door, and was met by an assistant who told me to go inside. I was met there by a woman dressed like a housekeeper, but with a white turban on her head. She said, &#8216;Michael Jackson will be with you shortly.&#8217; About two minutes later, he came down the stairs.

I was reluctant to shake his hand because I had heard that he was concerned about germs, but he immediately stuck his hand out and gave me a very firm handshake. He was very skinny, but not the least bit frail. He was wearing a suit and a hat. He was going to rehearsal later for the tour. He said, &#8216;You look familiar.&#8217; I told him a long time ago I worked on a TV tribute to Sammy Davis, Jr. at Shrine Auditorium [that he had participated in]. I told him I had met him briefly there.&#8217; He said, &#8216;I never forget a face.&#8217;

He told me, &#8216;I have three projects going on simultaneously.&#8217; One was the tour that the whole world knew about. The other two I believe no one knew about. One was to be an album of pop songs. Then he said, &#8216;The other one is that I want to record an album of classical music&#8217; &#8212; what he called classical music.

He said he listened to classical music all the time; it was his absolute favorite. I was impressed with the pieces he mentioned: Aaron Copland&#8217;s Rodeo, Fanfare for the Common Man and Lincoln Portrait; Leonard Bernstein&#8217;s West Side Story. I mentioned Bernstein's On the Waterfront. Then Michael mentioned that he loved Elmer Bernstein's film music, too, and he specifically mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird.

I realized that almost all the classical pieces he mentioned are childlike, very simple and pretty, like Prokofiev&#8217;s Peter and the Wolf and Tchaikovsky&#8217;s Nutcracker Suite. He also mentioned Debussy several times, specifically Arabesque [No. 1] and Clair de lune. He was very soft-spoken when were talking about music, but when he got animated about something, he was very changed. When he mentioned how he loved Elmer Bernstein, and I said I liked the Magnificent Seven score, Michael started singing the theme very loudly, almost screaming it.

He said, &#8216;I&#8217;m making a CD.&#8217; Then his son, Prince Michael, came in, and Michael asked him to find a CD player. Paris found one and brought it in with Prince. Michael played the CD. It was very pretty music. He said, &#8216;But a section is missing.&#8217; He played a second piece. And he said, &#8216;But a section is missing, too. But I can hum it to you.&#8217; I asked if there was a piano in the house, and he said there was one in the pool house. We headed out there, but Michael stopped when he saw the dog was outside, soaking wet from being in the pool. He didn't want us to get splattered. It was kind of funny. Michael got another assistant to hold the dog while we went to his pool house.

I sat at the piano and Michael hummed the missing part of one of the pieces. I had taken a little digital recorder with me and asked if I could record him. He was in perfect pitch. I tried to figure out chords to go with it as he hummed. He said, &#8216;Your instincts are totally right about the chords.&#8217;

We talked about classical music some more. I played some Debussy pieces. Michael seemed very happy and I think he felt very comfortable with me. He mentioned Leonard Bernstein again, and I played some of West Side Story. He told me he had met Bernstein once and that Bernstein had said he was a big fan of Michael&#8217;s.

Back in the house, whenever he&#8217;d go from room to room, you&#8217;d hear, &#8216;I love you, Daddy.&#8217; &#8216;I love you, Paris.&#8217; They all seemed pretty normal and happy.

Michael was very anxious to get the pieces orchestrated and record the music with a big orchestra. I suggested we record it at the Fox, Sony or Warner Brothers lot. I asked if he could have someone call me to discuss the budget and he said he would take care of it. When I left there were several fans outside the gate.

[Later] I talked to Michael on the phone. He asked me how the project was going and I said I was waiting to hear from someone so we could set the deal. I suggested we could record the music in London while he was doing the show there. He liked the idea. He again brought up Arabesque.

I laid the music all out on my computer and started on the orchestrations. Finally, a week before Michael died, his manager, Frank Dileo, called and asked me for an email with the budget and an electronic mock-up of the music, the costs of orchestration.

Now I have no idea what&#8217;s going to happen with this. I&#8217;m hoping the family will do something to get this done. I will not bring it up [with them] until after what I think is an appropriate time.

My guess is that each piece would be seven to ten minutes long. [Each one] is more substantial than a song. It&#8217;s very pretty music. One piece had an Irish quality about it. I suggested that we could use a Celtic harp. The pieces sound like pretty film score music, with very traditional harmony, and definitely very strong melodies. One of them was a little John Barry-ish, like in Out of Africa -- that kind of John Barry score. I could hear [in my head] sweeping strings and French horns in unison.

I told Michael I was going to use one of Leonard Bernstein&#8217;s batons I had bought at auction when we did the recording. I knew he would have gotten a big kick out of that. I guess I still will use that baton if I ever get to conduct the music.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/ent...c/2009/07/more_details_on_instrumental_a.html
 
I am in the process of reading all of your wonderful responses, and I am truly enjoying doing so. I know that in the future I will refer to this thread over and over.
Thank you all. :girl_butterfly:
 
I wish Estate to contact ths guy David Michael Frank... And talk about releasing MIchael classical album. :wub:

Also I would so wish symphonic pieces around Earth Song, Speechless, Childhood etc 90s works of Michael. ( there are classical instrumentals for some of the 80s songs, we all know them )
Some tried with Earth Song but sounds not too good..
Sincerely I would so wish Jan AP Kaczmarek to try to put them into a symphony or something... ( he is the composer for the Finding Neverland soundrack, got an Oscar for music, and in my opinion he could be one of the greatest classical composers from our modern times )
 
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