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Orléans (France) (AFP) - Michael Jackson fan clubs are set to sue two alleged child abuse victims of Michael Jackson in a French court this week over their claims in the recent HBO documentary "Leaving Neverland".

Thursday's hearing will take place at a court in the northern city of Orleans where the Michael Jackson Community, the MJ Street and On The Line groups will begin proceedings against the men they accuse of sullying the image of the late singer.
The four-hour documentary broadcast on US channel HBO focuses on testimony by James Safechuck, 41, and Wade Robson, 36, who recount separate but consistent accounts of how their idol molested them as boys at his Neverland Ranch in California.
The two-part film, which was released in March, broke streaming records and prompted the Jackson family to sue for $100 million (88 million euros).

The French lawyer acting for the fan groups, Emmanuel Ludot, called the allegations "extremely serious" and likened them to "a genuine lynching" of Jackson, who died in 2009.

Under French law, sullying the image of a dead person is a criminal offence, unlike in Britain or America where libel and defamation laws do not offer this protection.

The fan clubs are seeking symbolic damages of one euro each.
Ludot had previously successfully sued Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray for causing distress to his fans by giving the US pop legend the drugs that killed him.

Five Jackson fans won symbolic damages of one euro each in 2014 after the court in Orleans agreed they had suffered "emotional damage" from the pop star's death, but the ruling was seen as legally dubious by experts.

A number of radio stations, from Australia to Canada have stopped playing Jackson's music after the HBO documentary was aired, and the creators of "The Simpsons" also shelved one of the animated series' classic episodes because it featured Jackson's voice.
Jackson died in 2009 aged 50 from an overdose of the anaesthetic propofol while under Murray's care, as the "King of Pop" rehearsed in Los Angeles for a series of comeback concerts in London.

https://news.yahoo.com/france-michael-jackson-fans-sue-over-hbo-documentary-085739578.html
 
Sending luck and confidence to France
 
I don't think they should have sued for just one euro. If they win the lawsuit, then what do Wade/James lose exactly? Why should they really care? They should be forced to pay out a hefty sum, then these fan groups could have donated the damages to charity.
 
I agree on that! I guess the point is to prove them wrong.
 
Why only 1 Euro? Better force them to pay much more money for charity.
 
On Thursday, 4 July 2019, a court hearing is taking place in the Northern French city of Orleans where the Michael Jackson Community, the MJ Street and On The Line groups will commence proceedings against Wade Robson and James Safechuck, two men who sullied the image of the late singer Michael Jackson in the four- hour HBO documentary Leaving Neverland which aired in March.

The fan groups are taking action in a French court because of French defamation laws.

In the US and UK, libel protection does not extend after death but in France sullying the image of a deceased person is a criminal offense.

French attorney Emmanuel Ludot who is representing the fan groups in the case against Robson and Safechuck has called the allegations against Michael Jackson “extremely serious” and likened them to “a genuine lynching” of Jackson, who died on 25 June 2009.

The fan clubs are seeking symbolic damages of one Euro each.

According to John Branca, Co-Executor of the Estate of Michael Jackson, “The Estate is in full support of Mr. Ludot’s efforts on behalf of Michael and his beloved fans in France and across the globe that the truth shall ultimately prevail. We remain hopeful that a victory in France will soon fuel a movement In the United States to finally explore changes in the law to afford defamation protection for the deceased.”
 
Has there ever been any successful fan-based legal action?
 
moonchinking said:
I don't think they should have sued for just one euro. If they win the lawsuit, then what do Wade/James lose exactly? Why should they really care? They should be forced to pay out a hefty sum, then these fan groups could have donated the damages to charity.
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Agreed, but I can see their reasoning, too; they might be thinking that the one euro shows that they, unlike Wade and James, are doing this because they want the truth to win and not for money.
 
Am I right to be more excited about this outcome than the Estate vs HBO one? This seems like a bigger thing, even though it's only one euro!
 
The BBC are covering it now https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48879801

French Michael Jackson fans sue Leaving Neverland accusers

Three Michael Jackson fan clubs in France have launched legal proceedings against the men who accused the late star of abusing them in a documentary.

The claims of James Safechuck and Wade Robson, who both say they were sexually abused by Jackson as children, formed the basis of HBO's Leaving Neverland.

The Michel Jackson Community, the MJ Street and On the Line groups sued the men in Orleans, northern France.

Unlike the UK and US, French defamation laws extend libel beyond death.

According to Reuters, the court said a judgment would be delivered on 4 October.

In Leaving Neverland, directed by British filmmaker Dan Reed, both Safechuck and Robson say they were befriended by the late singer in the 1990s and were showered with gifts and affection before the sexual abuse began.

Following the documentary, which was broadcast on the M6 channel in France, some radio stations stopped playing his music and fashion brand Louis Vuitton removed Jackson-themed items from its 2019 summer menswear collection.

The fans' lawyer, Emmanuel Ludot, said the allegations - broadcast in the UK on Channel 4 - amounted to a "genuine lynching" of Jackson, who died in 2009.

The fan groups are seeking symbolic damages of one euro (90p) each.

In 2014, Mr Ludot represented the Michael Jackson Community when they won nominal damages of one euro from the pop star's private doctor, Conrad Murray, for his part in Jackson's death.

"In France you cannot sully the image of the dead," Mr Ludot said. "There's moral and emotional suffering. And when there's suffering, there's compensation. It's very simple."

The proceedings have been welcomed by Michael Jackson's estate.

In a statement reported in the New York Post, it said it was "in full support of Mr Ludot's efforts on behalf of Michael and his beloved fans in France and across the globe that the truth shall ultimately prevail".

The estate hoped, it said, that "a victory in France will soon fuel a movement in the United States to finally explore changes in the law to afford defamation protection for the deceased".
 
Michael Jackson fan groups sought damages on July 4 from two of the late pop legend’s alleged abuse victims for “sullying his image” in the HBO documentary ‘Leaving Neverland’.


The fan clubs sued the men in Orleans, northern France. The court said a judgment would be delivered on October 4.
The Michel Jackson Community, the MJ Street and On the Line groups accuse Wade Robson and James Safechuck of defaming Jackson in the documentary about alleged child abuse by the star.


The fans’ lawyer, Emmanuel Ludot, likened the men’s allegations to a “genuine lynching” of Jackson, who died in 2009.
The fan groups, which are seeking symbolic damages of 1 euro ($1.13) each, are taking action in France because French defamation laws extends libel protection beyond death, whereas the British and US legal systems do not.

Robson and Safechuck were not in court and did not instruct lawyers to represent them.
In ‘Leaving Neverland’ the two adult men say they were befriended by Jackson and abused by him from the ages of 7 and 10 in the early 1990s.

Jackson was acquitted in 2005 on charges of molesting a different boy, and his family has denied the accusations made in the documentary.

The documentary, broadcast by M6 in France, has caused a backlash against Jackson’s legacy. Some radio stations stopped playing his music, an episode of ‘The Simpsons’ cartoon featuring the singer’s voice is being pulled from future broadcasts and Louis Vuitton removed Jackson-themed items from its 2019 summer menswear collection.

Ludot said he was confident of winning. In 2014, he represented the Michael Jackson Community when the group successfully won nominal damages of 1 euro from the pop star’s private doctor, Conrad Murray, for his part in Jackson’s death.

“In France you cannot sully the image of the dead,” Ludot said. “There’s moral and emotional suffering. And when there’s suffering, there’s compensation. It’s very simple.”

https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/...eged-abuse-victims-in-french-court-1.65043134
 
Stop making multiple threads for the same topic please.
 
Jere is a good video from "Nicole's View" to this topic


She pointed out that this is mostly about controling the narrative against the media!

I would love it when the french fans win this and then maybe go after Dan Reed, Oprah and maybe the media!
 
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NatureCriminal7896;4261921 said:
Orléans (France) (AFP) - Michael Jackson fan clubs are set to sue two alleged child abuse victims of Michael Jackson in a French court this week over their claims in the recent HBO documentary "Leaving Neverland".

Thursday's hearing will take place at a court in the northern city of Orleans where the Michael Jackson Community, the MJ Street and On The Line groups will begin proceedings against the men they accuse of sullying the image of the late singer.
The four-hour documentary broadcast on US channel HBO focuses on testimony by James Safechuck, 41, and Wade Robson, 36, who recount separate but consistent accounts of how their idol molested them as boys at his Neverland Ranch in California.
The two-part film, which was released in March, broke streaming records and prompted the Jackson family to sue for $100 million (88 million euros).

The French lawyer acting for the fan groups, Emmanuel Ludot, called the allegations "extremely serious" and likened them to "a genuine lynching" of Jackson, who died in 2009.

Under French law, sullying the image of a dead person is a criminal offence, unlike in Britain or America where libel and defamation laws do not offer this protection.

The fan clubs are seeking symbolic damages of one euro each.
Ludot had previously successfully sued Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray for causing distress to his fans by giving the US pop legend the drugs that killed him.

Five Jackson fans won symbolic damages of one euro each in 2014 after the court in Orleans agreed they had suffered "emotional damage" from the pop star's death, but the ruling was seen as legally dubious by experts.

A number of radio stations, from Australia to Canada have stopped playing Jackson's music after the HBO documentary was aired, and the creators of "The Simpsons" also shelved one of the animated series' classic episodes because it featured Jackson's voice.
Jackson died in 2009 aged 50 from an overdose of the anaesthetic propofol while under Murray's care, as the "King of Pop" rehearsed in Los Angeles for a series of comeback concerts in London.

https://news.yahoo.com/france-michael-jackson-fans-sue-over-hbo-documentary-085739578.html
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This yahoo article is full of it. Look how they talk about these liars. "sperate but consistant"-yet not talk about Brandi, the lies of the train station; the lies in judge got onto them about, etc. "seen as legally dubious by experts"-yet MJ was investigated worst than anyone and had a harsh trial yet these fools still try to lie and want to see MJ as guilty even with people admitting they lied IN COURT on MJ. "broke streaming record-yet was a FLOP for HBO and all others countries which yahoo does not put in the article" and some people watch streaming to see the lies told by these fools. full of it. Go France, I pray u win.
 
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