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How do you personally define R and B?

Horrorlover656

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Do you describe it as a bag that contains multiple genres(funk, blues, ballads, soul) or it's own thing?
 
I don't really know how to describe it. I use it as a general 'catch-all' genre. I just had a look at some of the stuff I posted in the R&B thread and even that didn't help me, lol. I've posted The Moonglows and I've also posted Little Mix. :D

I always used to define R&B as smooth and boring but, actually, there's loads of R&B stuff that I like. For me, funk, soul and blues are separate stand-alone categories. I sometimes think R&B is for all the stuff that doesn't fit into those genres, lol.

Short answer: I don't know!
 
zinniabooklover said:
I don't really know how to describe it. I use it as a general 'catch-all' genre. I just had a look at some of the stuff I posted in the R&B thread and even that didn't help me, lol. I've posted The Moonglows and I've also posted Little Mix. :D

I always used to define R&B as smooth and boring but, actually, there's loads of R&B stuff that I like. For me, funk, soul and blues are separate stand-alone categories. I sometimes think R&B is for all the stuff that doesn't fit into those genres, lol.

Short answer: I don't know!
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Why don’t you edit your post to “Short answer: I don't know!”
 
zinniabooklover said:
Bc I like thinking out loud and if you haven't figured that out about me after all this time I don't know what to do with you. :ROFLMAO:
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You know I am thick if you haven't figured that out about me after all this time I don't know what to do with you.
 
filmandmusic said:
You know I am thick if you haven't figured that out about me after all this time I don't know what to do with you.
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Actually, that's a fair point! :ROFLMAO:

In the meantime, I'm still thinking about your original point ... modern R&B is constantly evolving? ... it's an interesting take ... :unsure:
 
Horrorlover656 said:
What modern RnB would you recommend?
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I like D’Angelo and a bit of Erykah Badu. Anderson PAAK has his moments. Michael Kiwanuka too but he doesn’t count really as his sound is very old school.

Anyway I’m sure there are people around who are far better placed to get you recommendations
 
filmandmusic said:
I like D’Angelo and a bit of Erykah Badu. Anderson PAAK has his moments. Michael Kiwanuka too but he doesn’t count really as his sound is very old school.
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To me MK is basically soul with a side order of indie folk/rock. Kinda! :D

Tbf, I've only listened to a handful of his songs so I've probably got that wrong.
 
zinniabooklover said:
To me MK is basically soul with a side order of indie folk/rock. Kinda! :D

Tbf, I've only listened to a handful of his songs so I've probably got that wrong.
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No it is true

His first album has some folk sounds while being clearly soul. His last album which I don’t know very well has more rock ish vibes.

He has a new album out this year. Nice!
 
filmandmusic said:
No it is true

His first album has some folk sounds while being clearly soul. His last album which I don’t know very well has more rock ish vibes.

He has a new album out this year. Nice!
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First single sounds like something that could have been on Off The Wal like I Can’t Help It
 
filmandmusic said:
First single
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Was that The Rest of Me? Really lovely song. I liked Floating Parade better, though. Heard that back in the summer (might be a different album, not sure). Gorgeous bass line.

filmandmusic said:
sounds like something that could have been on Off The Wal like I Can’t Help It
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Not too sure about the OTW comparison. The vibe seems completely different to me. :unsure:
 
zinniabooklover said:
Was that The Rest of Me? Really lovely song. I liked Floating Parade better, though. Heard that back in the summer (might be a different album, not sure). Gorgeous bass line.


Not too sure about the OTW comparison. The vibe seems completely different to me. :unsure:
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It feels organic, clear great bass sound, every instrument easily identifiable so it is fantastically produced. It reminds me of a more up tempo I Can’t Help It.

I can’t listen to Floating Parade yet on Spotify, it is also on the upcoming album, release 22nd of November.
 
Originally it was blues music with more of a rhythm to it that people could dance to. So "rhythm & blues". It was the head of Atlantic Records who came up with rhythm & blues, to get rid of the old term "race music" which was considered bigoted by that time. There hasn't been much "blues" in R&B since maybe the early 1960s. That's when "soul" came in. At the time, long time R&B fans considered "soul" as watered down R&B with string sections (also not as much gospel music sounds) for the middle class Black audience or the mainstream white audience. Especially Motown, they though it crossed over because Motown had a less "Black" sound (like The Supremes) that could appeal to the mainstream white audience. The slogan of Motown in the 1960s was "The Sound Of Young America". It was "high class" music like Johnny Mathis and not juke joint R&B like Bobby Blue Bland. A lot of the R&B and blues artists lost popularity with younger Black audience of that era, as they thought it was "low class" and country (like in rural/southern, not as in country music). Or closer to vaudville era performers, which they weren't checking for in the years of Malcolm X. B.B. King has spoken about this, he said that he talked to some Black Panthers in the late 1960s, and they told him they did not dig what the blues were about. If it weren't for the white British Invasion acts shouting out the blues artists, copying their music, and having some of them open their shows, that sound would probably be long forgotten about today.
 
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