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Have you ever been discriminated or attacked for being atheist?

Snow White luvs Peter Pan

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Hello everyone :)

First of all I don't wanna be unrespectful with this thread, I just wanna prove that freedom of religion beliefs doesn't exist, why am I thinkin that?
Becuase the same society in general is always tellin what to do. The family, friends or another people around if you admit openly you're atheist is attackin you or discriminatin becuase they think you're so wrong. you're poor becuase you don't have to god in your heart, you're gonna go to hell, blablabla.
Every one is free to believe any religion you want but I feel there's a discrimination againts atheist people, it really bothers me when someone wanna try to change my mind becuase they think I'm lost, it also bothers me when people think I'm heartless, with no feelings or I don't give a damn about another persone which not true.
What do you think guys?

Thanks in advance, have a nice day!!! :happy:
 
While I don't consider myself atheist per se, more agnostic, but open to people of all faiths/non-faith/beliefs.

Yes, however much I try to avoid it, the people I work with are about 90% fundamentalist Christian (it's a religious based hospital) and am always being asked if I believe in Christ, have I been "saved", believe in the bible as the true word of God, etc. Since I freely choose to work at this institution I have to accept that this type of thing is to be expected. Most truly feel they want to save my soul, enlighten me, whatever.

Although many view me with caution as if I'm a worker for the devil, I avoid confrontation and try to let my behavior/demeanor show peace and concern for all people. BUT, since they know I voted for Obama in deeply conservative and republican territory, it's a no win situation now most of the time.

Never been attacked, but definitely feel ostracized many times. It's hard many times to go against the grain, I wish you and/or anyone that doesn't fit into the prevailing "norm" strength to believe however you wish if it is not harming another person/s. Although, sometimes it is easier to simply avoid the "offending" topic altogether.

JMO
 
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Thanks for your testimony bgz :)

I haven't attacked anyone that I know for being catholic, in Mexico more than 70% are catholic, 28.3% are from another religion 'n just 1.7% are atheist, imagina that :doh:
I'm a problem for my society becuase most of the parties turn around religion, baptisms (sorry spell), marriages, etc.
I don't thin I'm wrong for having different thoughts about it.
 
Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Hello everyone :)

First of all I don't wanna be unrespectful with this thread, I just wanna prove that freedom of religion beliefs doesn't exist, why am I thinkin that?
Becuase the same society in general is always tellin what to do. The family, friends or another people around if you admit openly you're atheist is attackin you or discriminatin becuase they think you're so wrong. you're poor becuase you don't have to god in your heart, you're gonna go to hell, blablabla.
Every one is free to believe any religion you want but I feel there's a discrimination againts atheist people, it really bothers me when someone wanna try to change my mind becuase they think I'm lost, it also bothers me when people think I'm heartless, with no feelings or I don't give a damn about another persone which not true.
What do you think guys?

Thanks in advance, have a nice day!!! :happy:
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:eek: oh brother....you where probably attacked by protestant christians. Im Catholic, and on top of being tought to not judge, we believe ANYONE can be "saved". I know you dont believe that sort of thing which is fine. I think they dont realise the effect it has on you, and think they are doing it b/c they care for your soul, b/c they love GOD, or w/e. some christians think it is their job to preach and save ppl, i find that offending sometimes. i came across christians online once who said i would probably go to hell if i remained a Catholic, and i need to ask GOD in my heart, theyre doing it b/c they care etc. they have good intentions n all but come on. :mellow: it was annoying. ive also had Bible christians come up to me before and ask annoying questions...i find it admirable that they go out and do that, but most ppl just dont care!

anyway...i want to say i respect your beliefs and i dont think you have to worry about getting judged and ridiculed here :) its part of what makes it such a nice place to be.

 
i'm sorry to hear about that guys.

i myself can't say i have ever been "attacked" as such. ostracised, yes of course by the religious side of my conflicting family, lol. but nothing serious, nor that i can't handle.

i'm grateful to have lived some of my childhood and my adult life so far in a generally open-minded and multi-cultural society (London). there's no restrictions on education regarding what conflicts with religion vs. science etc, and it is a very secular society like most of Europe even though some stats may say otherwise.

i also don't mind it when people come at the door of my house trying to convert me - that is their right and i try to have a conversation with them if i'm not busy. then again, i haven't endured this "you can be saved" approach as you've described it, bgz, so i can't say how i would feel if it happened a lot more often - but very likely the same as you're feeling.

the biggest problem so far that i have encountered is the radical Islam that's been raging amongst the youth of the south of Britain, especially at universities and colleges. you have "Imams" who are literally brainwashing teens in mosques, playing on their conflicting and insecure identities of being a Muslim in Britain - which isn't at all helped by the media. if you are from Islamic origin, a lot of Muslim university students are becoming increasingly judgmental on how you should "represent" yourself. it's a primary reason why i left London to study up north.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/27/islam.highereducation
 
I'm always attacked by people around me because I hate religion. It stinks because no matter how hard I try to be nice about it, the religious zealots in my town and in my family won't allow me any peace. I don't see any end in sight to the madness. It will only get worse.
 
Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Hello everyone :)

First of all I don't wanna be unrespectful with this thread, I just wanna prove that freedom of religion beliefs doesn't exist, why am I thinkin that?
Becuase the same society in general is always tellin what to do. The family, friends or another people around if you admit openly you're atheist is attackin you or discriminatin becuase they think you're so wrong. you're poor becuase you don't have to god in your heart, you're gonna go to hell, blablabla.
Every one is free to believe any religion you want but I feel there's a discrimination againts atheist people, it really bothers me when someone wanna try to change my mind becuase they think I'm lost, it also bothers me when people think I'm heartless, with no feelings or I don't give a damn about another persone which not true.
What do you think guys?

Thanks in advance, have a nice day!!! :happy:
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I think that it's hard for people to accept any opinion that may challenge their faith. Personally, my motto is the truth is what YOU decide the truth to be, in other words, I have no problems with another person's truth because it doesn't interfere with my truth...which may be different.
 
arXter said:
i'm sorry to hear about that guys.

i myself can't say i have ever been "attacked" as such. ostracised, yes of course by the religious side of my conflicting family, lol. but nothing serious, nor that i can't handle.

i'm grateful to have lived some of my childhood and my adult life so far in a generally open-minded and multi-cultural society (London). there's no restrictions on education regarding what conflicts with religion vs. science etc, and it is a very secular society like most of Europe even though some stats may say otherwise.

i also don't mind it when people come at the door of my house trying to convert me - that is their right and i try to have a conversation with them if i'm not busy. then again, i haven't endured this "you can be saved" approach as you've described it, bgz, so i can't say how i would feel if it happened a lot more often - but very likely the same as you're feeling.

the biggest problem so far that i have encountered is the radical Islam that's been raging amongst the youth of the south of Britain, especially at universities and colleges. you have "Imams" who are literally brainwashing teens in mosques, playing on their conflicting and insecure identities of being a Muslim in Britain - which isn't at all helped by the media. if you are from Islamic origin, a lot of Muslim university students are becoming increasingly judgmental on how you should "represent" yourself. it's a primary reason why i left London to study up north.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/27/islam.highereducation
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If the truth be told, there is a certain amount of brainwashing that goes on in a lot of religions -- Islam is not mutually exclusive to that, yet their are many good folk in ALL religions who are faithful to their beliefs.
 
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mello1 said:
If the truth be told, there is a certain amount of brainwashing that goes on in a lot of religions -- Islam is not mutually exclusive to that, yet their are many good folk in ALL religions who are faithful to their beliefs.
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no doubt about that - i was just underlining the specific issue regarding many young Muslim Brits who are becoming increasingly influenced by a radical mentality coming from every angle - the ongoing disturbing news of the East, the mosque, the media twist and its vicious cycle, increasing racism against them, and all wrapped up viciously to seriously effect their views and actions which in turn affects the community - this being mostly accented in universities and colleges.
 
arXter said:
i'm sorry to hear about that guys.

i myself can't say i have ever been "attacked" as such. ostracised, yes of course by the religious side of my conflicting family, lol. but nothing serious, nor that i can't handle.

i'm grateful to have lived some of my childhood and my adult life so far in a generally open-minded and multi-cultural society (London). there's no restrictions on education regarding what conflicts with religion vs. science etc, and it is a very secular society like most of Europe even though some stats may say otherwise.

i also don't mind it when people come at the door of my house trying to convert me - that is their right and i try to have a conversation with them if i'm not busy. then again, i haven't endured this "you can be saved" approach as you've described it, bgz, so i can't say how i would feel if it happened a lot more often - but very likely the same as you're feeling.

the biggest problem so far that i have encountered is the radical Islam that's been raging amongst the youth of the south of Britain, especially at universities and colleges. you have "Imams" who are literally brainwashing teens in mosques, playing on their conflicting and insecure identities of being a Muslim in Britain - which isn't at all helped by the media. if you are from Islamic origin, a lot of Muslim university students are becoming increasingly judgmental on how you should "represent" yourself. it's a primary reason why i left London to study up north.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/27/islam.highereducation
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Wow! thats awesome, ArXter. but if you give respect, you will get it...usually anyway. I apprecite that you dont just shut your door in their faces if you can help it...even i dont think i could do that.

 
As spiritual as I am and I'm deeply spiritual, I find organized religion to be a joke. Nevertheless I don't even think I could even call myself a Christian though that is supposedly how I was "brought up". Luckily though my parents aren't anything like strict fundamentalists that try to push their one-sided thoughts on me and always stressed that God "loves everybody", especially my momma but I do understand how some feel when atheists get bombarded with "how come you don't believe in God?" and "why aren't you in church?" Sometimes you just wanna tell 'em, "f**k you" sometimes because they just don't understand how you're feeling. Plus religions keep fighting over other religions and conflicting God's words to fit their own stupid standards. It just make you question everything and if there is a spirit that is guiding us, then where is he? Then you start to doubt it so I understand how people feel but you guys shouldn't be attacked for your opinions. When they do that, that sucks.
 
troubleman84 said:
As spiritual as I am and I'm deeply spiritual, I find organized religion to be a joke. Nevertheless I don't even think I could even call myself a Christian though that is supposedly how I was "brought up". Luckily though my parents aren't anything like strict fundamentalists that try to push their one-sided thoughts on me and always stressed that God "loves everybody", especially my momma but I do understand how some feel when atheists get bombarded with "how come you don't believe in God?" and "why aren't you in church?" Sometimes you just wanna tell 'em, "f**k you" sometimes because they just don't understand how you're feeling. Plus religions keep fighting over other religions and conflicting God's words to fit their own stupid standards. It just make you question everything and if there is a spirit that is guiding us, then where is he? Then you start to doubt it so I understand how people feel but you guys shouldn't be attacked for your opinions. When they do that, that sucks.
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I cant stand fundamentalists. no offence to Mike and his family but...Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Southern Baptists...they really can be one sided and "you can only be saved through Jesus" crap. How can GOD be that cruel? I hope you dont mind me talkin about this snow...but...yah. cant stand that. Im not saying they are all like that...there was someone who went to my high school who was Mormon who would talk your ear off..actually very sweetly. VERY sweet person, and her family was also. but a lot of them can be rude..

 
OK well I'm a christian, was saved when i was 15 (6 years ago), but i would never discriminate against atheists or people who are agnostic. It was a friend who took me to church for the first time since i was old enough to understand what it's all about and make my mind up for myself - my mum and brother are non-practising christians and my dad is atheist. Although i believe that Jesus wants us to follow in his footsteps and do what is right in God's eyes, a lot of people do that anyway, without going to church.

bgz said:
While I don't consider myself atheist per se, more agnostic, but open to people of all faiths/non-faith/beliefs.

Yes, however much I try to avoid it, the people I work with are about 90% fundamentalist Christian (it's a religious based hospital) and am always being asked if I believe in Christ, have I been "saved", believe in the bible as the true word of God, etc. Since I freely choose to work at this institution I have to accept that this type of thing is to be expected. Most truly feel they want to save my soul, enlighten me, whatever.

Although many view me with caution as if I'm a worker for the devil, I avoid confrontation and try to let my behavior/demeanor show peace and concern for all people.

JMO
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As i was just saying, i think this is wrong, My dad is a doctor, constantly helping people, and has been named one of the best doctors in the area. He's a good person who loves his family and friends so much...he does everything the Bible teaches, so why should he go to Hell for not believing in Jesus, even though he folllows his teaching? I think it's ok to talk to people about faith, but shoving it down their throats or being cold towards someone because of their agnosticism/atheism is not fair. Everyone has freedom to choose...those who do believe in God believe that is a god'given right, so why take that away from someone, just because you don't believe that the way they're living is right? Makes no sense to me really!
 
Here in Finland it's quite normal to not believe in god. I have many friends who belong to church but not believe in god. So I guess it pretty much depends of your culture and country.
 
Hize said:
I have many friends who belong to church but not believe in god.
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this is the main reason why demographical statistics aren't reliable when you want to know the extent of religion around the world (especially in the West) where people would categorise themselves as part of a religion but not actually believing or following a particular faith.
 
Bl00dyphynix said:
I cant stand fundamentalists. no offence to Mike and his family but...Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Southern Baptists...they really can be one sided and "you can only be saved through Jesus" crap. How can GOD be that cruel? I hope you dont mind me talkin about this snow...but...yah. cant stand that. Im not saying they are all like that...there was someone who went to my high school who was Mormon who would talk your ear off..actually very sweetly. VERY sweet person, and her family was also. but a lot of them can be rude..
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I didn't read the whole thread. But people get on my tits about it. Especially Christians, apparently I'm going to hell.
 
i had a lot of problems when i was a kid due to my religious views. i spent my childhood in a very catholic environment and even though i wasn’t actually an atheist then (yet) i refused to attend church and rejected the whole catholic lifestyle and worldview with its blind stupidity and hypocrisy when i was around 11. dealing for many years with all my family’s/teachers'/priests' attempts to teach me how to live according to their moral standards was quite challenging, lol.

since i moved out of my parents’ home at age of 18, i don’t have to lead a double life anymore. and personally haven’t really experienced any discrimination directed at my lack of religion. i never bring this up unless i’m asked. my problem however is that i’m considered by default a catholic with a particular set of views as i live in a religiously homogeneous society. and i’m fucking bored of correcting constantly everyone regarding my identity, lol. reactions are between disbelief, anxiety and disgust but no one have ever tried to convert me or pray for me (as my family members did and still do when have a chance) it’s seems to be a personal thing and it’s rather respected if you’re an adult. so nothing really uncomfortable compared to the religious indoctrination around my family and in school that I went through as a kid.
 
Thank all of you guys :happy:

I made this "symbolic" pull becuase it's gonna be useful for my public speaking class. I know that it doesn't exist the freedom to do lots of thinks brcause society is always telling it's wrong but I wanted to fucus only in the religious aspect, as an athiest I believe it's interesting to get more into that hypocresy of people in general.
I'm proud to say I don't believe in god but I really believe all the people can have valious, can be perfectly ethical without having a creed in particular.
 
Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Thank all of you guys :happy:

I made this "symbolic" pull becuase it's gonna be useful for my public speaking class. I know that it doesn't exist the freedom to do lots of thinks brcause society is always telling it's wrong but I wanted to fucus only in the religious aspect, as an athiest I believe it's interesting to get more into that hypocresy of people in general.
I'm proud to say I don't believe in god but I really believe all the people can have valious, can be perfectly ethical without having a creed in particular.
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Im glad you started this. ill admit that ive been a bit rude in the past to this one athiest in particular. not as much what i said but how i said it. id glare at him too. this was back in High School..i was a..bit different then. lol. the way i see it is, if my God wants me to love above everything else...why would he want me to be rude to someone about believing in Him? I try to be an open-minded person..its amazing what you can learn when youre not so biased about your views(i try to not be...emphasis on try..lol)some ppl think that by pressuring someone else to believe what they believe they will change their minds...thats just not logical..:huh: its part of being human. we all grow up developing habits in the way we think act and what we believe..including believing in God or not. and none of that is easily changable. my views and beliefs on things are as much a part of me as it is for anyone else. maybe when some of those fundamentalists out there realise this they will see how rude they can be.

 
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