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Only because Elizabeth Taylor's Estate made US$210 million off the auction of her possessions including a Van Gogh painting :)

So woop woop for Michael!


10/24/2012 @ 9:45AM |228 views

Elizabeth Taylor Tops 2012 List Of The Top-Earning Dead Celebrities


When it comes to earnings, it’s hard to beat Michael Jackson. The pop singer, who died in 2009 at the age of 50, raked in more than any living artist in the past 12 months: $145 million.

But this year that wasn’t enough to get him to the top of our list of the Top-Earning Dead Celebrities. Beating him to the No. 1 spot is his old friend Elizabeth Taylor. The estate of the glamorous actress, who was 79 when she passed away last year, earned a staggering $210 million last year.

Most of that money came from the record-breaking Christie’s auctions of the star’s jewelry, costumes and art work, which brought in $184 million. Every one of the 1,800 lots sold. The most expensive item was an 1889 Van Gogh painting that went for $16 million.


Then there’s her perfume, White Diamonds, which is one of the best selling perfumes around bringing in $75 million at retail in 2011, according to Euromonitor.

The rest of the money came from property sales and residuals from Taylor’s movies. After Cleopatra, the star smartly negotiated a 10% ownership stake in each of her films. Her estate also collects money from Around The World in 80 Days, which was produced by her ex-husband, Michael Todd.


The residuals will keep Taylor on our list, but without the money from the one-time auction, it will be tough for her to beat out the King of Pop again: Jackson’s estate has too many steady revenue streams. Not only does it earn from sales of his own music, Jackson owned a 50% stake in Sony‘s ATV catalog, which includes artists like The Beatles, Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga. His estate also collects money from the successful Cirque Du Soleil show The Immortal Tour.

Jackson earned $90 million more than our third-ranked celebrity, Elvis Presley. With $55 million in earnings the king of rock n’ roll pulled in the same amount as he did in 2011. As with Jackson, Cirque Du Soleil launched a whole show around Presley’s music in 2010, Viva Elvis, at MGM’s Aria casino in Las Vegas. But with ticket sales flagging, MGM asked Cirque to bring down the curtains at summer’s end. Luckily for the king, traffic was brisk at Graceland this year, making up for the lost revenue from the show.


Our list looks at earnings between October 2011 and October 2012. We count money coming into the estate and we don’t deduct for how the estate handles it. So for example, some of the proceeds from Elizabeth Taylor’s auction went to her AIDS Foundation, but we did not subtract that contribution from her total earnings.

Peanuts creator Charles Schulz ranks fourth with $37 million. Sixty years after the comic strip debuted, Charlie Brown and the gang are as hot as ever. The Peanuts are the ninth most lucrative entertainment franchise, bringing in $2 billion a year globally at retail. The strip is about to get the big-screen treatment from Fox‘s animation division Blue Sky, which produced the Ice Age movies. That could help boost Shulz’ earnings in coming years.

“The Peanuts have been underrepresented in media,” says Steve Marotta, an analyst at C.L. King & Associates who covers Iconix, the public company that managed Peanuts. “If it’s a good movie it’s only going to enhance the brands image and drive it into other categories.”
The movie is slated for 2015.

Bob Marley rounds out the top five, with $17 million in earnings last year. The reggae star has become a diversified businessman from beyond the grave. There is now a Marley beverage company which sells Marley’s Mellow Mood, a “relaxation” drink. Then there’s the House of Marley which sells headphones, speakers and “lively up” bags.

Full List: Top-Earning Dead Celebrities 2012

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothy...-taylor-is-the-new-queen-of-dead-celebrities/
 
I wish it was a list of top earning celebrities
 
His total would be even higher if FORBES hadn’t credited the advance for the latter to last year’s $170 million total.
 
Still hard to see MJ part of this particular list.
 
Still hard to see MJ part of this particular list.
yes, but partially it shows how huge Michael has always been despite the last decade of his life and all the filthy things...
It shows the MJ (fan) power, the social importance, the global status, the financial empire, ... simply... there is nobody bigger then Michael Jackson, he really is larger than life.
 
Moonwalker.Fan;3728908 said:
His total would be even higher if FORBES hadn’t credited the advance for the latter to last year’s $170 million total.

His earnings might also be greater if the auction sales of his 'former' property (eg costumes and the like) were credited to him.
 
His earnings might also be greater if the auction sales of his 'former' property (eg costumes and the like) were credited to him.


^^That is an interesting point. Elizabeth owned her costumes and so the money was credited to her. However, it seems that Michael gave back his costumes to Bush, according to Bush, and in all the other Michael related auctions Michael's property was owned by others; that includes the property that Rebbie stole from Michael's home.
 
^^That is an interesting point. Elizabeth owned her costumes and so the money was credited to her. However, it seems that Michael gave back his costumes to Bush, according to Bush, and in all the other Michael related auctions Michael's property was owned by others; that includes the property that Rebbie stole from Michael's home.
His own sister stole property from him? omg...i don't even want to comment what i think about her, now.
 
I'm very angry that Michael is dead. I just wish I could of meet and spoke to him. He would be alive today. MJ just did not have the right people in his life :no:
 
His own sister stole property from him? omg...i don't even want to comment what i think about her, now.


I heard Rebbie was going to auction Michael's phone case and stuff like the but the Estate stopped her.
 
I'm very angry that Michael is dead. I just wish I could of meet and spoke to him. He would be alive today. MJ just did not have the right people in his life :no:


me too.. he definitely didn't have anyone looking out for him that's for sure. It's unfortunate. He should've lived with his fans we would've taken care of him.
 
http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

10/24/2012 @ 9:55AM |4,057 views
Why Whitney Houston Didn't Make Forbes' List Of Top Earning Dead Celebs

Whitney Houston: Earning back her advance in the afterlife.
Whitney Houston’s death on the eve of last year’s Grammy awards cast a shadow over music’s biggest night, and that was clear from the ceremony’s opening moment. As the industry’s top stars looked on in silence, hip-hop legend LL Cool J opened the proceedings with a prayer. Others, from Bruno Mars to Alicia Keys, offered tributes of their own.
“I would not be up here as a nominee or as a winner without her influence in my life,” singer Melanie Fiona told a crowded press room later that night. “My heart is heavy right now. I feel proud to say she was such a huge influence to me.”
The outpouring of support by musicians after Houston’s passing was matched by that of her fans. Her Greatest Hits album sold 64,000 copies in the day following her death—and 818,000 copies in the U.S. alone through the first half of 2012. According to representatives from her record label, Houston has sold 3.7 million albums and 4.3 million singles worldwide this year.
Assuming a typical royalty rate of $1.50 per album and 10 cents per single, that would translate to roughly $6 million in earnings—more than George Harrison or Jimi Hendrix—and enough to land Houston on our annual Top Earning Dead Celebrities list. So [lexicon]Why[/lexicon] didn’t she make the cut?

The answer is fairly complicated, though not much of a surprise in the broader context of the music industry. Houston has indeed generated millions upon millions of dollars in record sales since her death—but she was already paid for her efforts years ago.
In 2001 Houston signed a $100 million deal with Arista Records. According to one music industry source, that included an advance of $30-$40 million, with the rest scheduled to be paid out for additional albums. Another source says it’s “hard to believe” she could have earned back that advance before she died, and a back-of-the envelope calculation bears out that notion.
Massive agreements like the one Houston signed are all now but extinct when it comes to recorded music, though they’re still very much in play for big tours. But in the days when record companies did commit such large sums of money to their artists, they typically made sure to protect themselves by adding language to ensure that royalties from all of an artist’s previous works will be applied to the new advance instead of being paid directly to the artist.
“Very rarely would they uncross the catalogs on a deal that large,” says Randy Phillips, a music industry veteran and CEO of concert promoter AEG Live. “They tended to [base the advance] on a projection on royalties from catalog sales.”
A quick look at the commercial performance of the three albums Houston recorded after signing the deal shows that Arista’s projections were way off. Just Whitney (2002) went platinum in the U.S. but failed to sell 2 million copies, as did I Look To You (2009). Her 2003 Christmas album didn’t even earn a gold certification, meaning it sold fewer than 500,000 copies in the U.S.
To be sure, international sales added more—Houston typically sells at least one record abroad for every record she sells in the U.S.—but even assuming that the three albums sold a combined 6 million units worldwide, her combined earnings would have added add up to about $9 million.
Representatives from Houston’s estate declined to comment for this story, and her label wouldn’t talk about the status of her advance. But the picture of the singer’s postmortem earnings is clear enough: combine the $9 million number with the estimated $6 million she has generated since her death, and you get a total that’s half the advance she earned in 2001, at best.

Since FORBES’ earnings list methodology dictates that we would have credited Houston with her advance in 2001, we aren’t adding it to her total for this year’s Dead Celebs list (for a similar reason, Michael Jackson’s estimated $30 million earnings from Cirque Du Soleil’s Immortal World Tour this year aren’t credited to his total because the number was counted as an advance last year).
And unlike Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston’s death wasn’t followed by a flurry of deal-making to monetize her afterlife. By contrast, the King of Pop earned an upfront payment of $60 million for the concert film [lexicon]This is it[/lexicon], while his trove of unreleased music earned him a $250 million deal with Sony, the largest in the industry’s history.
Houston would have received her payment for the movie Sparkle last year, so it wouldn’t have figured into our calculations for this year’s list, and the film didn’t do well enough for her to earn anything on the back end. Houston didn’t write her own music, either, meaning she doesn’t get the publishing income enjoyed by someone like Jackson, nor did she leave behind an extensive amount of new music, as he did.
“If she doesn’t have unreleased tracks, you’re looking at bargain bin best-of album,” explained Donald David, an attorney who has represented the Tupac Shakur estate. “Those sorts of things don’t have any kind of lifespan, and they don’t produce a lot of money.”
To be sure, there will be opportunities for Whitney Houston’s heirs—namely her daughter, Bobbi Kristina—to benefit financially. Houston still earns residuals for her movie roles, and the estate could add more cash flow with a biopic, image and likeness licensing, or perhaps even a Cirque Du Soleil show.
But for now, the main beneficiary of her postmortem success is the record company that already paid her so many millions of dollars, so many years ago
 
The media is sick to me. I google Michael's name and they all say he got beat by Elizabeth and his isn't number 1 anyone. It's not a contest. I find these lists sad and it is still hard to see Michael on this list. I want his estate to do well and all. I just wish he was still here.

I think with Whitney her record company like Clive Davis helped her financially. Her family are doing a reality show as well.
 
I heard Rebbie was going to auction Michael's phone case and stuff like the but the Estate stopped her.

The estate didnt stop her I think. She sold off that phone case, his glasses and a gift on Juliens Online Auction house.
 
The estate didnt stop her I think. She sold off that phone case, his glasses and a gift on Juliens Online Auction house.

Yes that is true. She was able to sell it. Her brother died, she went to his house, looked for things of value and gave to Juliens to auction. Even the fan who gave Michael the item tried to get it back and could not.

Michael will have a continued presence on that painful list, so the media's happiness about his number 2 rank will be short lived. Elizabeth has no more jewelry to sell off for next year, but the King has many projects brewing and has millions of fans waiting to buy.
 
I'm not jealous at all, I adore Dame Elizabeth as well :wub: :D but I bet Michael will be on the top next year!

What Rebbie did was absolutely disgusting :puke:, it proves once more (I'm not saying all religious people are bad) that not all religious people are good human beings (as devoted Jehova Witness she is.)
 
I'm not jealous at all, I adore Dame Elizabeth as well :wub: :D but I bet Michael will be on the top next year!

What Rebbie did was absolutely disgusting :puke:, it proves once more (I'm not saying all religious people are bad) that not all religious people are good human beings (as devoted Jehova Witness she is.)



yep absolutely disgusting.. wasn't that the same day he died? she is trifling for doing that.. going in his house stealing stuff to auction was just so wrong on Rebbie's part. I really don't like that woman I don't care how much she claims to believe in Jehovah. She has done and said some rotten things. I just remember her on some tv show after MJ died talking about crashing the gates in Vegas to stage an 'intervention' all while she was grinning and laughing while sipping on a smoothie drink.. That just really rubbed me the wrong way.
 
I didn't know she did such vile act until I started to read the comments on this thread and I don't know if she did it when Michael passed, I found odd The Estate didn't stop her, she became a vulgar thief when she did such thing. Another reason to despise her... :puke:
 
Annita;3729378 said:
http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

10/24/2012 @ 9:55AM |4,057 views
Michael Jackson’s estimated $30 million earnings from Cirque Du Soleil’s Immortal World Tour this year aren’t credited to his total because the number was counted as an advance last year).
30 Mill and counting...wonder what's Bad 25 Anniversary's sales like......

 
they cheating him again. when does this all stop?
billboard cheated him in 2009, also this year. world music awards in 2010. an now forbes.

why crediting him the money from 2012 to 2011? they dont have the money in 2011. thats cheating!
that means michael jackson is number 1 this year. fact. :D
great, 3 years in a row number one.

does someone know since when the list of the dead celebrities exists?
and how many time elvis was number 1?

all is know (after searching on the forbes website) is that elvis was number one in 2000-2005, 2007-2008
 
^^That is an interesting point. Elizabeth owned her costumes and so the money was credited to her. However, it seems that Michael gave back his costumes to Bush, according to Bush, and in all the other Michael related auctions Michael's property was owned by others; that includes the property that Rebbie stole from Michael's home.

how do you know that?
 
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When the fans contacted Julien's to try to get back their stuff that was being auctioned, they're told only the seller could withdraw the pieces. And they were told the seller was Rebbie Jackson and that they should contact her. That is proof enough she stole Michael's private things. Presents he got from fans.. :(
 
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When the fans contacted Julien's to try to get back their stuff that was being auctioned, they're told only the seller could withdraw the pieces. And they were told the seller was Rebbie Jackson and that they should contact her. That is proof enough she stole Michael's private things. Presents he got from fans.. :(

This is beyond disgusting... I can't even imagine SMH
 
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When the fans contacted Julien's to try to get back their stuff that was being auctioned, they're told only the seller could withdraw the pieces. And they were told the seller was Rebbie Jackson and that they should contact her. That is proof enough she stole Michael's private things. Presents he got from fans.. :(

until there is no video footage, audio or documents that prove that, its a romour.
 
mjchris;3730689 said:
until there is no video footage, audio or documents that prove that, its a romour.

I was one of the fans trying to collect money to one girl who gave him a present, so she would be able to bid on it. In the end it went for a lot more money then we had collected. I don´t know how long those catalogs of Julien´s can be seen online, Rebbie´s name was in there on a few objects. It´s was such a big subject back then on facebook and among the followers. Much sadness. It´s not a rumor, I was there.
 
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until there is no video footage, audio or documents that prove that, its a romour.

The items came with a letter from Rebbie that says they were genuine and personal items of Michael. It's not like Rebbie is denying that she got Michael's items and put them on an auction. To the contrary she signed letters in that regard.
 
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